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Phillies Come Up Empty At Deadline
Phillies GM Pat Gillick wanted to pick up one more starting pitcher, a lefthanded reliever, and maybe a hitter (Manny Ramirez) before yesterday's deadline, but he did not make a deal.
Gillick told Todd Zolecki of the Philadelphia Inquirer that he was close on a three-team deal that would've brought a #4-type starter to the Phillies. He had an agreement with one of the other two teams. Gillick believes this mystery starter will not clear waivers this month. It's unclear who the starter would've replaced, since Gillick already picked up Joe Blanton. Maybe Brett Myers was in the failed deal.
Tossing out a few #4-type starters who may have been available: Tim Redding, Odalis Perez, Jason Marquis, Jarrod Washburn, Paul Byrd, Josh Fogg, and Livan Hernandez. Which is these pitchers wouldn't make it through waivers? Perhaps Redding, Perez, and Fogg on account of their low salaries. Doesn't seem like Gillick would've needed to involve a third team to get any of them though. Anyone have any guesses?
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My guess (although he should NOT be considered a #4 starter) is Miguel Batista.
I know the Phils have looked at him in the past, and Seattle has been starting him recently hoping to draw interest.
Posted by: 7thinningstretch | August 01, 2008 at 02:34 PM
Nevermind, just saw that Batista is making 9.5 million this year! He would definitely clear waivers.
Posted by: 7thinningstretch | August 01, 2008 at 02:36 PM
i heard a rumor that it wasnt a #4 guy but really roy halladay
Posted by: sjphilsphan | August 01, 2008 at 02:38 PM
Vicente Padilla. Already has a track record in Philadelphia.
Posted by: Mikey S. | August 01, 2008 at 02:42 PM
The Halladay rumor was certainly junk and I made a point not to print it.
I dont think Philly and Padilla are too fond of each other.
Posted by: Tim Dierkes | August 01, 2008 at 02:44 PM
What about Boof Bonser? In the NL, he might have more of a chance as a starter and Minnesota was rumored to try to move him.
Posted by: Mikey S. | August 01, 2008 at 02:55 PM
Padilla's track record in Philly is exactly why he wouldnt be on their list. The real answer is no one, Gillick had the nerve to say he didn't go after Pudge because "he doesnt like the way he calls a game". Complete BS! He's a Future HOF'er!. I dont know why Gillick is making up these bonehead excuses.
The Mets made no strides either, so they'll be fine.
Posted by: lorecore | August 01, 2008 at 02:55 PM
Josh Fogg as a #4-type starter? That's a funny one.
Posted by: CubsAddictMG | August 01, 2008 at 02:58 PM
Perhaps Arroyo. I know that it was said that he was taken off the market, but thats really nothing, I could see him not clearing waivers becuase of his post season expirence.
Posted by: schellis | August 01, 2008 at 02:58 PM
I've got no guesses beacuse I've got no reason to believe he's not lying through his teeth until I hear the names come out. The way this team has been run since I've been watching gives me no faith. They're built to win games, not championships.
This sounds very bitter but it's more directed towards the FO than anything. I'll never stop watching this team play.
Posted by: JohnKruksWaistLine | August 01, 2008 at 03:10 PM
i just called into 610 WIP phillys sports radio DJ howard eskin. he believes it was in fact bronson arroyo. hes usually right so i'll believe him.
Posted by: Old Man Moyer | August 01, 2008 at 03:13 PM
Hmmm.....could the team have been minnesota or cincinnati? Mayb even the nationals or cubs, they all could of moved an arm
Hernandez...marquis...perez and cincin had 1 or 2 choices for a needy team.
Whoever it was u kno the phils would have to done something other than had myers in the deal....
And roy halladay to the phils???? Wow, thank you for not posting that rumor
Posted by: elevenahead | August 01, 2008 at 03:21 PM
OldmanMoyer - save yourself some dignity and listen to ESPN 950's Mike Misseneli in the afternoons. Howard Eskin is complete scum and even more of a complete know-nothing. He has no inside knowledge whatsoever, let alone any other kind of knowledge.
Posted by: lorecore | August 01, 2008 at 03:23 PM
Eskin = never right
Posted by: 7thinningstretch | August 01, 2008 at 03:25 PM
Just to throw a name out of a hat since I just looked through a bunch of depth charts: Kyle Davies. But I think Arroyo is probably the guy Gillick was speaking of.
Posted by: vignette17 | August 01, 2008 at 03:33 PM
They had been linked to Mahay earlier, so maybe they were going after a package of Davies/Bannister and Mahay.
Posted by: Billy Heywood | August 01, 2008 at 03:47 PM
Eskin=crakbaby.
My guess is Burnett. Or at least that was my hope but right now he's playing like a 2.
oh and by the way. Eaton needs to go further to get to hitters he can get out. maybe he can trek out to williamsport soon and strike out some 11 year olds. What a waste of $25 million (TWICE)
Posted by: philsWSchamps | August 01, 2008 at 03:57 PM
Eskin's not a likeable guy so no one wants to give him any credit, but he is correct a fair amount of the time.
Posted by: Brian | August 01, 2008 at 04:03 PM
Missenelli (sp) or whatever is pretty awful too. I just turn off the radio then.
Posted by: JerseyMuscle17 | August 01, 2008 at 04:05 PM
hey, i hate howard eskin as much as the next guy, but saying he has no inside sources is just wrong. he always breaks the stories. so while he is absolutely the scum of the earth, i think you are letting your hatred for him cloud your judgement
Posted by: leeal02 | August 01, 2008 at 04:08 PM
Eskin has sources with the Eagles, not the Phillies. Frankly, I think he makes crap up about the Phillies to pretend he has a contact. He recently said Hamels is pitching with a broken bone in his arm...
Jody Mac has the baseball sources.
Posted by: Bedrosian's Beard | August 01, 2008 at 04:20 PM
It would have been a younger guy like Gaudin or Marshall of the Cubs. I dont think the Cubs would let loose of one of those guys unless they were getting a MLB ready player in return. Phils dont have anything the Cubs would want so 3rd team might make since. Maybe the Royals with Dejesus....
Posted by: clarknaddison | August 01, 2008 at 05:45 PM
Sherrill will most likely not clear waivers but could Jamie Walker and Jay Payton be dealt for Jason Donald?
Posted by: baez's mom | August 01, 2008 at 06:27 PM
Carl Pavano LOL
Posted by: jza1218 | August 01, 2008 at 07:35 PM
How about Jarrod Washburn because Colorado was looking at him for next season, New York with the same record as the Phillies would be able to make a claim, then there's NY Mets, Braves, Marlins, Cardinals, and Reds that would all try and grab him up for a run and with as hot as he's pitching, Jarrod has value beyond this season, especially for free if it is through waivers... Marlins alone would do it to block a deal...
Posted by: BaseballGuru | August 01, 2008 at 07:58 PM
What is it you don't like about Donald? I do not have a problem with the Os sending some cash your way in a trade like that.
Posted by: baez's mom | August 01, 2008 at 09:10 PM
My guess is Paul Maholm...
Posted by: Phillies07 | August 02, 2008 at 03:45 AM
Brian Bannister and Ron Mahay from Kansas City.
Posted by: coryjwilson | August 02, 2008 at 04:02 AM
To GreatOne,
Romero walks too many batters - true - but you like Sherrill? You obviously don't know much about George, as he walks the tightrope every outing. And I'm surprised you dismiss the Marlins so quickly. They've added two starters in the past 2 weeks, Sanchez and Johnson, potentially better than all Phillies starters except Hamels. And it cost them nothing.
Posted by: Twitchell | August 02, 2008 at 02:36 PM
Jon Lieber, The Sequel.
Posted by: Johnny Rotten | August 02, 2008 at 03:04 PM