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By Sarah Green [September 20, 2008 at 2:52pm CST]
Buster Olney's latest offering is packed full of links:
- Bernie Miklasz notes that the Cardinals have only three starting pitchers (Adam Wainwright, Todd Wellemeyer, and Joel Pineiro) locked up for next year (he's not expecting Chris Carpenter to contribute in 2009), and no prospects waiting in the wings. His solution? Pry open owner Bill DeWitt's wallet, "and please, no el cheapo deals for rehabbing pitchers, medically risky pitchers, broken-down pitchers."
- The Pirates have it a little bit tougher. According to pitching coach Jeff Andrews, it consists of Paul Maholm and "a blank sheet." Here's one vote for adding Ian Snell, "on the verge of becoming the best right-handed pitcher to come from Delaware since World War I," according to DelwareBaseball.com, who sponsors his Baseball Reference page.
- According to GM Jim Bowden, the Nationals will explore ways to upgrade their defense for 2009, including the possibility of moving Lastings Milledge from center field back to a corner spot. Left fielder Elijah Dukes could move to center.
- Despite going through a difficult divorce, Padres' owner John Moores is not planning on selling the team---which he bought because of his soon-to-be ex.
- The Mets seem to be rushing John Maine back from the DL in an attempt to keep their playoff hopes alive.
- Dave Krieger is amazed that the Rockies aren't doing anything to try and keep free-agent closer Brian Fuentes.
Sarah Green writes for the Boston Metro and Umpbump.
Well, with Rasmus in the wings, the Cardinals can try to trade either Ankiel or Ludwick for some decent starting pitching; possibly try to trade Duncan/Mather/Schumaker in a package for a lesser SP.
It will be interesting to see how the rotation fills out for the Cards. I could see them converting Kyle McClellan back to a starter or knowing Dave Duncan, pushing for Brad Thompson to be in the rotation.
Posted by: mtzxc | September 20, 2008 at 02:59 PM
"The Mets seem to be rushing John Maine back from the DL in an attempt to keep their playoff hopes alive. "
Yes, because John Maine is really going to have an impact on whether this team makes the playoffs. They are 2 and a half games up, so they are hardly trying to stay alive. They don't even know whether Maine will pitch again this year, and if he does, whether he will relieve or start. Even when John Maine was healthy, he wasn't all that important to the Mets playoff hopes, having a subpar year. But yeah, I am sure they will risk the future health of a young arm who they don't need right now, by bringing him back to try to stay in the race ( a race in which they lead by 2 and a half), in a year in which he didn't help while healthy, and expect him to help while not healthy, and jeapordize his career. Makes no sense at all.
Posted by: nrmax88 | September 20, 2008 at 03:01 PM
John Maine has a bone spur. He has no structural damage, no risk of worsening. The only risk to his comeback is if he compensates for pain with changing arm angle/delivery. And Im sure Warthen and Manuel will take good care of that not happening.
Posted by: viktor06 | September 20, 2008 at 03:10 PM
I rarely hear it mentioned, but I wonder if Cardinals fans would be willing to part with Rasmus for a young front line pitcher or is he considered "untouchable?"
Posted by: The Juice | September 20, 2008 at 03:10 PM
I don't believe the Cardinals consider any player other than Pujols untouchable. That being said, John Moeliak and Jeff Lunhow will not go down the path of Walt Jockety and trade off young talent for older veterans. If Rasmus is traded this off season, it would have to be for a young stud middle infielder. Also, in a recent article Jeff Lunhow put to rest most of the rumors suggesting a riff between Rasmus and the Cardinals management. It seems that even if Tony does not like the kid, the organization as a whole is hell bent on him succeeding as a Cardinal.
Posted by: mtzxc | September 20, 2008 at 03:17 PM
From an article on the Cardinals official Website:
"One player not scheduled to play this winter, however, is outfielder Colby Rasmus. The organization's No. 1 prospect checked out physically, Luhnow said, but has chosen to stay and work out in the U.S. over the winter. Luhnow said he had no problems with that decision.
He also played down rumors of disenchantment between Rasmus and the organization.
"I think he's going to focus 100 percent on being ready for Spring Training and making this club," Luhnow said. "That's where his head needs to be. Forget who's posted what online, or what people are saying about what he's doing or not doing. He and I had a good long chat [Tuesday], and I believe he's got the right attitude.
"When you talk to him directly, he has one goal and one goal only, and he's pretty focused on it. I tried to communicate to him that I have that same goal. That we all do, really.""
Posted by: mtzxc | September 20, 2008 at 03:20 PM
And I know Milledge has had a couple problems in Center, but as a Met fan, trust me, he is no better in RF. He was much better playing center for the Mets, and his bat plays much better there. Moving him to a corner spot decreases his value imo.
Posted by: nrmax88 | September 20, 2008 at 03:30 PM
Maybe the A's can work out a deal for Rasmus.
The A's have a ton of good young pitching, and are looking to add a lot of offense this offseason.
Posted by: green_and_gold | September 20, 2008 at 04:46 PM
Agreed re: Milledge, his range is fine for a Centerfielder, but he struggles to read the ball off the bat and take proper routes to the ball. That was the same story when he was in a Corner OF position with the Mets. The only cure to that though is more repetitions. Leave him out in Center and let him learn.
With Maine, as the article you linked point out mentioned, the Mets have been assured that there is no damage to be caused from Maine pitching, unless he tries to alter his mechanics due to the injury (In which case they wouldn't allow him to pitch obviously). It's a Bone Spur, really a matter of pain tolerance more then anything.
Posted by: AdropOFvenom | September 20, 2008 at 04:59 PM
It would be interesting to see the Cards move Rasmus as part of a package for either Cain or Greinke. I think they have the other pieces that could get it done.
Posted by: mymrbig | September 20, 2008 at 05:06 PM
mymrbig- Can you suggest a package you think is worth Cain and Greinke? From my knowledge I don't see enough high ceiling talents in the Card's system...
Also, between Greinke and Cain, who would you prefer? What about the rest of you, who would you prefer between the two of them?
Posted by: The Juice | September 20, 2008 at 05:51 PM
I would take Cain over Greinke, but I think Greinke is awesome, is underrated, and is currently a slightly better pitcher. But I give the edge to Cain because of their contract situations.
Cain is a year younger (23 vs. 24), is under team control for an extra year (2011 vs. 2010), and has a signed contract through 2011 so you do not have to worry about going to arbitration like you would with Greinke. Just having Cain for the extra year more than makes up for the difference (if any) in ability.
In terms of pure pitching, I think they are almost equal, with a slight edge to Greinke. They have similar strikout rates (8.0 over the last 2 years for Greinke, 7.5 over the same time for Cain, though Cain gets a boost by facing pitchers instead of a DH). Greinke obviously has better control (2.5 BB/9 vs. 3.6 BB/9). They are almost identical in arm strength with fastballs around 92-94 mph. Both have proven to be physically durable over the past few years. While Greinke is ahead in these areas, Cain is a year younger and could equal or pass Greinke with some improvement in his control.
Honestly, the difference between them over the course of a single season is almost negligible. But the extra cost-controlled year makes Cain more valuable.
Rasmus is such a stud talent, he is a great centerpiece. For the Royals, you could include Bryan Anderson and then a few lower level arms (Ottavino?). For the Giants, maybe Jess Todd, Joe Mather, and someone else. Those should at least be pretty solid starting points.
Posted by: mymrbig | September 20, 2008 at 06:06 PM
I highly doubt Rasmus is traded this off season...much less a group of top prospects with the new front office in St. Louis. The new philosophy is to build from within.
And I doubt that the Royals would trade Greinke, especially since they like their pitching staff as it is. I can't see the Giants wanting Rasmus with Rowand in center and their own corner prospects...especially since they are supposedly talking about JJ Hardy or Prince Fielder for Cain.
Posted by: mtzxc | September 20, 2008 at 09:58 PM