Will Mike Mussina Retire?

I agree, if Moose wins number 20, it increases the odds he walks away.

But I think if the Yankees can show this off-season that they are committed to win in their first season at the new stadium, Mussina will want to come back. After all, he has all the stats but no rings.

Even Though I am not a Yankee fan I would not like it if Moose retired, but if he does retire it would be awsome to see him get 20 wins

The second post has a good point. People forget that Mussina doesn't have a ring because it seems like he has been with the Yankees for such a long time. That is certainly something to play for. I would be shocked if he retired, though it would be cool to see an athlete end his career on such a high note. That is rare in pro sports these days.

I hope Pettite retires. I hope Mussina comes for one more year.

"if the yankees have more men like him and phil hughes i might have to take them off my 'teams i have to fully despise' list"

That's blasphemy coming from a Red Sox fan! Heh.

I do agree though, Moose is one of the classier players in the game today. Enough so that if he retires I sincerely hope he comes back some day as a pitching coach.

"If Mussina wins his 20th game on Sunday night against the Boston Red Sox, he'll retire in all likelihood."

As a Red Sox fan I don't give a s**t who we play in the ALDS, we are better than the Angels, Rays or W-sox/Twins. I really want us to deny Mussina his 20th. In fact I hope he is leading into the 9th and we beat Mo to cost him his 20th.

Barroid Bonds, do you have any idea what Mussina has done the past two seasons before this one?

He'd start the season absolutely dominating, then get progressively worse as the year went on. He'd usually get some sort of injury in August or September. During the times in those months that he was healthy, he was absolutely terrible.

This season from him is completely out of nowhere, and almost unheard of. To give you an idea of how unexpected this is, here's some context from Yankees beat writer Peter Abraham:

Mike Mussina is the first AL right-hander to win 19+ games at the age of 39 since Early Wynn went 22-10 for the 1959 White Sox. Back in those days, when men were men, he threw 255.2 innings over 37 starts. The only other AL right-hander of that age to win 19 games was some dude named Cy Young who did it three times from 1907-09.

"im a redsox fan, but i have to give Moose respect. he's a class act player, and class act man."

he's actually a notorious asshole. in the 1993 all star game in baltimore, cito told mussina he was his extra innings insurance guy, and that he wasnt likely to get into the game. on his own, for no apparent reason, he started warming up in the 8th/9th innings, letting the crowd think he was coming in. needless to say they were quite disappointed that moose never came in, and moose let the baltimore media vilify cito after the game. to this day gaston gets booed heavily at camden yards.

in 2004 tom cheek, the blue jays announcer from their inception until his passing, was being honoured with a pre-game ceremony. mussina was very upset and complained to the media after the game that the ceremony went 15 minutes longer than it should have. tom cheek was dying of a cancer. what an ass.

and for the record, and i'd love some input if any yankees fans watched last night's game - was mussina's strike zone not ridiculously huge?

CorShep,

You know what I remember seeing, in New York a chant of "Boston Sucks" whereas in Boston a chant of "Yankees suck." The funny implications of that are yankee fans are more or less violently hateful of a competitor rather than with Boston fans simply hateful of a baseball/old age gladiatorial competition. Strangely it a great rebutal to this idea that I've seen a lot of new yorkers lately as trying to paint us bostoners as hateful people.

Point being, this is a baseball rivalry, if you want to take it to other sports, kindly blow it out your @$$ or take it to another website (By the way, I don't give a damn about the Pats/Giants superbowl and even made fun of the Pats, I'm strictly a baseball guy).

I think Moose will pitch again next year. Also, I hope that he wins 20 games this year.

Mussina should retire ... would make a pretty solid pitching coach for some team
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Arodsucksatlife says: "As a Red Sox fan I don't give a s**t who we play in the ALDS, we are better than the Angels, Rays or W-sox/Twins. I really want us to deny Mussina his 20th. In fact I hope he is leading into the 9th and we beat Mo to cost him his 20th".

It's a shame that a classless tool like this has to ruin a nice baseball chat with his ignorance. Not only have you proven yourself to be an unwanted idiot, you are one of the delusional "Nation" that forgets that his team was a DOORMAT for EIGHT DECADES before 2004. Go back to the Sox board with the rest of the amnesia patients. OH...and by the way...you are absolutely NOT better than the Angels OR the Rays. The Angels have the best record in baseball and the Rays are in FIRST...you are NOT. Sorry little boy to give you a dose of reality.

As for Shilling being Hall worthy and Moose not:

Moose 269-153 2810k's 3.69
Shill 216-146 3116k's 3.46

Moose has always pitched in the AL Beast. Shill was in the NL most of his career. Moose is the only player in history to have 11 or more wins in 17 seasons in a row! Shill has three 300+ k seasons and three 20 wins seasons.

In short, both have been very good pitchers obviously...Shill with some more spectacular years, Moose the model of consistency.

jj makes an excellent point ... pitching an entire career in the AL East shows that Mussina is a real competitor. I could have won as many games as Schilling did in AZ during the years he spent there.

And, for all those who say Mussina has no class, you are isolating one incident from his youth. Can you honestly say you were the picture of professionalism at your first job?

Mussina handles a truly tough media pool extremely well. He has developed poise, leadership, and a respect from anyone in the game who understands history / achievement.

I would love to have him back on the Yankees for two or three more years, if only for what he can teach the youngsters. While we may root for 300 wins, he is a Hall of Famer in my book right now.

PS - Jim Palmer should go back to selling gloves and let Mussina speak for himself.

Mike Mussina is an a**hole. His team mates even say so. If you even wanna read a book about Mussina go get Living On The Black by John Feinstein.

Goes in depth with Mussina and Glavine through pretty much both pitchers worse seasons.

92-93:

thanks for finding that for me.