Kasten: No Offer Yet For Teixeira

I'm not a Yankee fan but I have no problem with how they use their resources. They can use them however they see fit, and I'd rather they spend money than make their owners rich(er). Anyone who dislikes the Yankees because the Yankees have some sort of unfair advantage is either jealous, immature, jealous, a direct competitor, jealous or just flat out jealous. You see where I'm going with this?

"so let the yankees offer tex 7yrs 160 mill...so thats

CC 6yrs $140 mill
Burnett 5yrs $80 mill
which comes too $380 mill for 3 players nice going yankees spend that money"

Anyone else hate when people quote numbers like that? With those years/salary on average it'd be an extra $62 mil. Lumping the entire amount of the salaries together to make some kind of point makes it seem much more inflated than it really is. The Yankees would not be doling out $380 million, only that $62 million.

Pageian you don't think 3 or 4 teams having a shot at the big name free agents is an unfair advantage? This is coming from a Red Sox fan.

Obviously that money doesn't always translate into World Series wins but there is indeed some serious competitive balance in the MLB in my opinion.

"Anyone else hate when people quote numbers like that? With those years/salary on average it'd be an extra $62 mil. Lumping the entire amount of the salaries together to make some kind of point makes it seem much more inflated than it really is. The Yankees would not be doling out $380 million, only that $62 million."

Just came in here to say that. All it illustrates is that the sizeable deals are long. They did the same with the Cubs offseason a few years ago and it drove me insane.

"Just came in here to say that. All it illustrates is that the sizeable deals are long. They did the same with the Cubs offseason a few years ago and it drove me insane. "

I'm guessing everyone thought they were handing Soriano a $136 million check or something.

LOLZLAJL OMG U GOT ME!

*rolls eyes*

What on earth does my team winning a playoff game have to do with me knowing what I'm talking about? Please let the grownups talk. You either do not understand how contracts work, or do not understand how numbers work. Either way, it's a worrisome situation.

The only thing that has kept the Yankees from buying championships every year is sheer ineptitude. If they truly do start succeeding in winning by simply out-bidding everyone, how many years would it take for fan interest to erode across the league. MLB knows this and I think Hank and Hal could truly be the eventual cause of a salary cap if this scenario came to pass.

The alternative to a salary cap could be just putting the trophy up for auction every year in the spring. High bidder (Yankees) wins and we can dispense with players and their salaries and this silly 162 game schedule.

Or maybe long term contracts to every veteran player in the market, despite, their talent, isn't the panacea that the Yanks think it is and they'll wind up with a very old, very expensive, very injured and and poorly performing team in a few years. Hasn't that been the Yankees magic formula all along?

So if you guys want to install a saslary cap then let's take it one step further and let's change the draft system. Let's either allow #1 picks to be traded or switch to a weighted lottery system. Or let's take even further and allow ameatures to be signed like FA with "bonus" money? Because as it is the Yanks, or any winning team will never have an opportunity to draft the top 10 players in the country like the Rays, Brewers or Pirates.

Contrary to popular belief the Yanks have had a #1 pick every year in the last 15 drafts except for 2002. However, we haven't had a top 10 pick since the year we drafted Jeter @ #6 overall. The way the system works if you are among the top teams in the draft then you'll never draft anywhere neer the top 10 players in the following years draft. The Rays have been able to cherry pick the best players ever year not because their a superior farm system but because their draft slot is always 1 thru 5 and that's where Longoria, Upton, Price, Hamilton, Baldelli have all come from.

So if you want a salary cap then you must also revamp the draft set up and the way teams handle/trade their picks? Fair?

The playoffs is a total crapshoot, or very close to it. No team can truly "buy" championships because teams like the Cardinals/Rockies/etc. of past years are always going to have a good enough chance of winning. The odds are never really in your favor to win a championship, just better than others.

"And to say you cannot buy yourself championships and into the playoffs IMO is incorrect. It's all about spending the money correctly."

This is true.

Money CAN buy championships.

Would the Sox have two titles in 5 years if they could only spend 75 million? Probably not.

If you spend it incorrectly, frivolously, then yeah it won't me of much help.

I never said you don't know what you're talking about. I understand how number work, and how contracts work thank you very much. Check you condescending attitude at the door next time.

I disagree with what you said initially, considering your team bought soriano for 8 years/ $136 million, which is way more than he;s worth.

Oh and by the way, way to contradict yourself by saying "LOLZLAJL OMG U GOT ME!" and "Please let the grownups talk" in the same post. Grow some maturity and so decency not to flame people for disagreeing with you. Watching you type that last post was like watching Michael J.Fox play Jenga.

While the Yankees haven't been able to "buy" a championship, they have,in fact, bought their way into the playoffs pretty much every year. Hence, their sense of entitlement and why they are so pi$$ed off that their $200m. team fell flat on its face this year. I think sooner or later a salary cap is probably inevitable. Then maybe we'd find out what kind of G.M. Cashman really is.

How does it feel to know that Sabathia really doesn't want to play for the Yankees and if he comes there it is only about the money?

MickS:

I assume you have a job. Do you go to work everyday because you absolutely love what you do and your boss rubs your feet and feeds you ice cream and cake everyday or do you do it because they pay you a check? And if another company offered you a pay raise of 50% are you going to say no because you just couldn't imagine leaving them? Get real. If CC doesn't want to play in NY so be it. I haven't heard those words come out of his mouth yet.

Don't you find it just a little bit embarrassing that C.C. didn't jump on that record offer?

umm besides the bs offer from milwaukee nobody else has offered sabathia any money. That would be bad business to jump on the first thing that came your way. If you're self employed you should probably know that no?

I'm self-employed myself. Do you think people work for you because of your cheerful disposition or because you cut them a check every two weeks? And are you so conceited to think that they wouldn't go to work for your competitor if he offered them more money or other incentives?

And no I'm not upset or insulted that CC hasn't responded yet, no do I think Cash/Yanks are. he's making a major decision that will change the lives of himself and his family. You people are acting as if the Yankees are buring the guys soul. They're offering him market value to come and do a job. There's not going to be, or their shouldn't be, animosity if he decideds to go elsewhere. At the end of the day this is sports we're talking about. Not life and death. That's why I can't wrap my head around why there's so much anymosity towards how the Yanks run their business. If Billy Beane's wants to/needs to trade his star players because the city of Oakland doesn't want to buy them a new stadium and they can't generate enough revenue to attract/retain the players they want then they conduct their business the way they have to. The Yanks have a completely different business model and a certain aesthetic that's unique in it's own right. Some people love the idea of playing in NY or LA or Chicago. Some might prefer to cozr confines of Milwaukee or Pittsburgh, so what? We didn't write the rules and we aren't breaking any. Any we certainly aren't the once's who set the precedent by signing Zito to 7/125 or Arod to 10/250. If I'm correct those were those small market teams that completely blew their competitors (none of which were the Yanks) completely out the water.

we didnt sign mike hampton to 8/121 either

BTW - whether you want to say signing Tex, CC, and Burnett is $380m or $62m annually it doesn't matter much. The point is, that's an ungodly amount of cash. Factor in that you are ADDING that an already ungodly amount of team salary and you can see why people hate the Yanks.

Using opening day figures for 2008 - those 3 players would cost more than the ENTIRE TEAMS of the Marlins, Rays, A's, Pirates, Nationals, Royals, and Twins.

And BTW. If the Yanks were to sign CC, Burnett and Texiera then we would NOT have a budget any bigger than last years salary.

Abreu, Mussina, Pettite, Giambi, Irod, Sexos, Ponson, Pavano = $80 mil +

CC, Burnett and Tex probably = $65 mil.

Everybody happy? The Yanks are price cutting. Cheers..

And guess what? We take another $25 mil off the books when we let Damon and Matsui walk as well.

Hmmmmm, Holliday, Victor Martinez or Adam LaRoche might be good additions. What do my fellow Yank fans think?

It doesn't make much of a difference that the Yanks don't usually have high picks. They usually get top 10-15 talent on guys whose contract demands are too high for the likes of the Royals, Nats, Pirates, etc.

" whether you want to say signing Tex, CC, and Burnett is $380m or $62m annually it doesn't matter much. The point is, that's an ungodly amount of cash"

440 million dollars spent in total last off season. They were supposed to no longer be the Yankees of old, but I guess that changed.

What's another 380+ this year? They're the Yankees and you and I are obviously just jealous. :(

Why do you care? It's not your money? We spent what we were willing to spend to retain Mo, Posada and Pettie last year.

This year we lose 80 mil off the books and will use about 80% of that to possible sign CC, Burnett and Tex.

And next year when we let Damon and Matsui walk we'll have another $25 mil to spend and maybe we'll use that for a star LF, RF, 1B or C. Does that bother you. And you people will complain "evil empire..blah blah blah...Yanks are bad for baseball...blah blah blah...the Yanks are the cause of juvenille diabetes and the green house effect blah blah freakin' blah. Meanwhile we would've improved our team while maintaining the same payroll we had in 2008 and maybe even less. And you people better HOPE Cash doesn't get things right with the farm team. Hate yourselves not the Yanks. You people need a hug.

Go bark at the Red Sox for signing JD Drew for 70 mil and Man-NY for 160 mil, or the Rangers for Arod for 250 mil or the Giants for Zito at 120 mil.

They sayd $40 mil but they fail to mention that those contract are spread over many years for many players (Posada, Rivera, Arod). What they fail to mention is how the Tigers signed Cabrera to 7 yrs/$140 mil, the Cubs signed Zambrabo for 5 yrs/92 mil and the Mets signed Santana for 6 yrs/135 mil.

But yet we're the Evil EMpire and the reason gas was so high this year. Go figure.

Yes, you guys need a great big old hug. For some reason you hate the Yanks for wanting to improve the team and for be willing to spend THEIR own money. is this still America? And I'm not sure what you find so childish about my stance. Not that I really care though. Go Yanks.

Ehh like I just said, they're not winning so they're only bringing a smile to my face.

I find the arrogance of 90% of the NYY fans I've encountered amusing and you're no exception...so I guess that's what I find so childish about your stance.

You can't honestly wonder why people hate the Yankees (and their fans) right? I mean isn't it obvious?

Besides of course the fact that we need a hug, and were haterzzzz, and we're jealous and all that.

cubbysfan23

better start looking at the numbers.
the cubs have joined the giants and mariners as baseball's worst load of contracts.

Oh yeah Red Sucks Dynasty. Your a 1st class putz but congrats on your MVP 2nd baseman. I'm pretty happy with Cano but I DO admire Pedroai's game and how he has developed. How 4 more years until free agency right?

.....joking.

Bottom line is: People that hate the Yankees for their market, resources and desire to win are seriously out of touch with reality.