Phillies Interested In Delmon Young?

On paper it would seem that Young would be a great fit, but his personality would never work in Philly. Besides giving up Donald is way too much, when we'll need him in the future for 3rd.

I can't imagine the Twins trading Young without getting a lot more than Donald in return, considering they gave up Matt Garza and Jason Bartlett for Young and Brendan Harris a year ago. Unfortunately, the Phils' main position of organizational depth is catcher, where the Twins have one of the best in the business, Joe Mauer. I don't see a match here unless Young's going really cheaply.

It wouldn't just be Donald straight up...it'd be Young for Donald and most likely a major league releiver...the deal would never get done

I agree with Utley probably starting the season on the 15-Day DL, we will need Donald at 2nd. The only way Donald gets traded is for starting pitching and another prospect or signing is hitting the cover of the ball in spring training.

Donald bats from the right not left.

Forget his Talent.. his personality would fit just fine. He would be come quick friends with Howard and Especially Rollins. Rollins put Howard under a roof early in his career and Rollins or Howard would do the same with Young. If the Phillies can get this done by trading Donald... Do it.

Looks good to me for both sides, though someone should do a list of what they think other returns could be for each player.

for some reason i thought he was left handed. i guess its because that is the direction he threw the bat at the ump. but i do like his talent. and reports are saying that utley is going to be back mid april so brunlett would just fine for the first two weeks. i would rather have donald start in triple a just in case he craps the bed and his value goes down.

Young is the author of a career .306/.341/.449 line vs. lefties. We could do a lot worse than platooning him out there with Dobbs or Jenkins and hoping he develops into an everday player, a la Jayson Werth.

"Tied for 9th most triples in AFL"

I love stats more than most, and even I say who gives a sh*t what a completely meaningless piece of information.

Scott Sizemore was 2nd in OPS in the AFL last year, Kevin Frandsen in '06, Eric Duncan led in '05.

The kid has talent but you trade him 1000 times out of a 1000 for Delmon Young if thats the deal.

Any Philly fan that doesn't want to trade Jason Donald for a guy who has been playing in the bigs since age 19 and been compared to Griffey in raw talent is crazy.

Delmon may have some personal issues so far, but few players are talented enough to get almost 1400 at bats before their 23rd birthday. Donald is a year older and is in AA... Delmon is already a mid-level major league player at age 22 and will most likely become very good. He's also cheap and a plus defender to boot.

The Phillies would be fools not to pursue this.

with is crazy talented and a low risk/high reward move at this point.

Makes sense since the Phillies LOVE toolsy outfielders.

^^ I would definitely be surprised to see Madson go in a deal, although I do see your logic. Peak value right now, and most likely going to walk in a year

All I have to say is you better sign Cruz first before moving Ryan. And also, that's a lot to pay for a completely unproven (although very talented) OF

That's why I don't like Young as a target...MIN would make you pay a premium for his potential, and I wouldn't feel comfortable taking that risk

If Jason Donald is available you better believe that the Baltimore Orioles would be calling every 2 seconds...

For Twins fans who watched every day...Young's +/- in LF last year was shockingly bad, worse than Burrell. And yet he apparently has good speed

Was it a case of poor instincts or inexperience at the position (first full season in LF)?

(Let me make it clear, I think in terms of value, Delmon Young for Donald is a deal you do in a heartbeat but I'm not sure it's as great a fit on paper for the Phillies in the short-term as it seems.)

Defensively Young had a few problems last year. He hurt his ankle at one point and never sat to rest it. Left field in MN is both large and difficult due to some unfortunate lighting behind home plate. (The Twins typically play better fielders in left than right.) So while I wouldn't go as far as calling him a plus fielder, he's probably not as bad as he looked in 08.

They may take a step back in power and OBP from Pat in the short term, but Delmon is a much better defender and no one would be shocked to see a massive power explosion from him over the next couple seasons. Especially if he were to move from Minnesota to that band box in Philly.

If I were running the Phils I'd give Donald and Madsen. I'm pretty sure Madsen only has one more season under team control too so it's not a huge loss. They could take the money they're saving from Madsen and Burrell's '08 contracts and put it towards a new 8th inning guy. Try to get someone like Isringhausen, Hoffman, or Cordero to take a setup role.... unless they can convince Wood or Fuentes to come in as a setup guy.

I'm goin to contradict what I said earlier, if Werth moved back to left, & Young to right..it could work (def. one of the fastest outfields as well). That being said I don't think they will part ties with Madson, it will be someone like Condrey.

If the price is a very good SS prospect and a top setup man, I'd hope Amaro would laugh that off and move on...

I'm really amazed by the people who still fawn over Delmon's "plus plus power potential." Seriously, take a long look at the numbers guys. Since being promoted to AAA midway through the 2005 season Young has hit exactly 40 HR in over 1900 AB. He has never, ever hit for power against high level pitching. I get that he is still just 23 and everything and I'm not completely writing off his power, but its been well over 3 seasons now since Young gave any indication of his power potential with his performance on the field.

Personally I think Delmon is probably only going to develop into a .300/.350/.450 type of player which is solid, but pretty unspectacular for a corner OF. Still, .300/.350/.500 doesn't seem unreasonable and there's always an outside shot he actually comes somewhat close to his projected ceiling. I'm not holding out any hope though.