Cubs' New Owner Might Push For Peavy

And let the sighs begin....

What this article fails to mention is that the Padres are going to have a new owner too, Jeff Moorad, and he probably won't want to trade Peavy.

SCREW PEAVY! I am so sick of seeing his name all the time. The guy is a work of art. Did I mention SCREW PEAVY?!

Oh, and 3)could easily be replaced within the Cubs organization... aka is in a position of depth.

Wow. Thats good to hear, not just relating to Peavy but just in general that money shouldnt be an issue. But considering Bradley is only making 7 million this season (the signing bonus was split between the first two years) we should have room to add a pitcher still.

Can we just get a owner first? And then go from there. Jumping way ahead of ourselves by saying what a potential owner is going to do. once again hes not even the owner yet.

George is getting angry!!!

/C'mon Cubbies

This rumor is not going to go away until Jake makes his first start of the season.

melonis rex they definately have the players to pull of the peavy deal. vitters marshall indians prospects cedeno how is that not enough?? and there others besides them.

Or.... he is traded

I'm not drinking the Cub kool aid in 2009. Zambrano's arm is not going to hold up, Harden's arm is very unlikely to hold up, Dempster will probably be more of a 4 ERA guy than an ace.

The rotation just isn't going to hold up, so trading for Peavy probably makes some sense for them.

The moves they have done so far haven't really improved the team though imo. The problem wasn't 'righties' ate them up in the playoffs, it was that they stunk in the playoffs period. The Cubs had a very even splits last year, they hit righties just fine on the season.

Cardinals/Tigers. Actually Im just making that up. I remember being at the bar and going oh...theres baseball on. Just seemed that no one cared to watch. Couldnt tell you what was actually the lowest rated but that one just was a bore to me. And its not because im a cubs fan either.

"^ thats what's good for baseball and not all this salary cap jabber"

MLB got plenty of profits in '08, even if the WS got "low ratings." I agree with you on the salary cap though.

"Does anyone know what the lowest one of all time is? "

Does it matter?

Seriously. The WS should be about the two best teams, not the two that will draw the most ratings.

Stop b!tching about ratings.

If a new owner, such as Rickets does make a push for Peavy financially, meaning the 2010 payroll and then some probably, what else could he do to help the deal progress? I mean, if he came out and said "Hey Jim, go give Towers 2million more in that deal you had worked out" do you think thats really gonna be the difference?

tolo316, Henry, et al:

Will you eat your crow, & your humble pie, if Peavy is acquired? or will you just disappear?

i just want this whole peavy thing to be over. what i actually hope for the padres is that they get a new owner who wants to win now and he goes out and gets some rotation help for Peavy and Young and shores up that bullpen to make them somewhat of a competitor.

if they go out and get say Garland and Wolf they will have a solid rotation and especially if the mets sign Perez and Redding and the Braves looking like they might sign Lowe the Dodgers rotation wont be as deep with just Bills, Kuroda, and Kershaw unless im missing something

On baseball-almanac.com they list the WS ratings since 1968. Last years Ray's-Phillies matchup was the lowest of all-time with a rating of 8.4, a 14% share, and 13,635,000 viewers. 1980's match-up of the Phillies-Royals rated the highest with a 32.8 rating, a 56% share, and 42,300,000 viewers.

No no no. You got me all wrong. Just on the previous post about peavy (the 43 of them). Everyone always just hates these posts. My first comment was anticipation for people to whine and cry about the Peavy rumors. Im a cubs fan and want Peavy just as bad as anyone. I was not the one sighing. I was anticipating everyone elses complaints. I want a owner now so we can move forward and make moves without having the burden of empty ownership to hold the cubs down

So the Cubs may have some more money to spend under new ownership... great! But as the Yankees and also the Cubs have proved, money does not buy championships. Someone needs to tell Hendry that when you've got the money to spend on the best player available, make sure you don't spend it on the most over-hyped player available. *cough* Soriano *cough*

Sorry Henry for misunderstanding your post!

Its alright I can see how it was confusing. I probably looked like one of the frustrated people. But any Peavy talk to me is good talk.

Peavy would make the Cubs' rotation pretty amazing. Would it also clear out the farm system and the bench?

Sure, Cubs fans would love it if the trade brings in one World Championship. But if it doesn't, your roster looks pretty shabby pretty soon.

Ricketts (if he is the new owner) sounds a bit like Ted Turner before he turned the baseball operations over to Stan Kasten. Make a splash now in the hopes you can win soon, even if doing so makes little long-term sense.

and dero netted 3 minor league arms.it was indians basically paying his full salary and here is 3 pitchers.nothing wrong with that deal.melonis,so your saying that a player like dero with that one year left on his contract,34 years old,could have netted hendry some baseball top prospect?lol,give me a breakif this was the allstar break,maybe.but right now?you cant be serious.i mean his defense was average,and i dont think he hit 30 plus hrs with 100 rbis.hendry is a great gm.period

i agree sharx,100 percent.we would have peavy for 4 years,with z and dempster.that would be fantastic.

"Zambrano's arm is not going to hold up"

I'm glad you know that...but yeah, there is no bias there...

The Cubs window is 2 to 3 years...going for it now actually makes a lot of sense.

Yea, about all that garbage people have been saying with Zambrano's arm is done and 'its going to fall off' and all that, hes had one bad year injurywise. The first several years of his playing time hes been near perfect, minus a missed start once (maybe) each season for forearm cramps.

The Cubs do have pieces that can get a deal done for Peavy. The Padres will want some MLB ready talent, and the Cubs need to free up space on the 40 man.

Now remember not all of these names are the most glamorous.

Rich Hill
Ronny Cedeno
Felix Pie

Those are almost guaranteed.

Then there is Jeff Stevens and Chris Archer.

We are at 5-1 already and haven't even gotten to the good talent.

Those 5 clear out the 40 man.

Then you give them a choice of one of the top 5 Cub Prospects at SS, either Hak-Ju Lee or Ryan Flaherty.

Now we have some decent talent.

Then add 2 other Cubs top 10 prospects C Wellington Castillo and RHP Andrew Cashner.

Its an 8 for 1 deal there, with a mix of MLB ready talent and young farm hands for when the Padres are actually ready to compete.

Then you have Vitters still which is probably a must so there is plenty that can be given up without giving the few guys we may need in the case of injury.

Again that is not the sexiest package of players but an 8 for 1 with salary relief and a good mix of talent I think that Towers may jump at that.

Though Rich Hill is has 15 K to 18 BB in winter ball this year with an era of 4.12. So Mitch Atkins or Justin Berg may be more enticing.

Now I am not suggesting that is the deal that gets it done. Rather I was trying to suggest some of what KT and Hendry could discuss. Personaly I think the Padres wont be fully competitive until 2011 season.

Personally this doesnt happen without Vitters.. but a guy can dream. I am still content with the team as is.

Lets get out to Wrigley crack a few Old Styles, grabe a nice chicago dog, and root root root for the home team.

Well now that you got that off your chest. crack open a beverage and give a yee haw to the Shawn Estes signing. This is what the site is for. Idiots like myself to babble on about rumors that are floating around the MLB. Regardless of what one guy says on here it doesnt make a lick of difference on whats going to actually happen. 75% of these posts are ludicrous. But once again they affect nothing to the actual MLB world. So let fans be fans (idiots or not) and let manny be manny.

Thanks Henry.. I like being a fan. :-)

BTW I would be manny for 1 mil per year, and I would be willing to do a 1 year deal too.. and would not ask for a no trade clause. But I would need a pair of those sunglasses with the built in MP3 player like him.

Bleacher_Buddha:

Good post. I don't think Archer is on the 40-man roster, though. If possible, find a way not to part with Marshall (great swing man in our 'pen), Vitters (our #1 prospect in our organization), or Castillo.

Bleacher Buddha,

Here's my question. Say the Cubs were rebuilding and were going to trade a stud player to rebuild, let's say Aramis Ramirez. You can be offered a 5,6,7 or 8 for 1 trade that would give you guys good enough to be in the major leagues, but no one with the potential to be a star down the road. Would you make that trade? Trade a top player for a bunch of league average guys?

I think that to acquire a Cy Young winner, you have to give up at least one player with the possibility of being a star. Vitters could be that guy, but he's so far away from the big leagues, he could easily be nothing. And I'm rooting for the kid. He went to my high school, and is better than the last time the Cubs drafted a kid from my old high school back in 2002.

sharx- I think what he was sayong was vitters, marshall, and castillo would hurt the future at 3rd SP and 1st/catcher.
Also, if he does buy the Cubs, anyone think since teh window is 2-3 years that the cubs will wait to sign roberts and the offseason next year and only lose one draft pick instead of six players? Tim has said that the O's and Roberts are really close on an extension and he feels like they promised to build around him and he wants to play for a contender soon and obviously the O's are not contending for at least 2-3 years.

DB: I think Vitters is that guý. Pie, given a chance to play everyday, could be, too. If they are patient with Hill, who knows.

I think the hang up was Towers really wanted Marshall in the deal.

Bobbyp: I thought Roberts wasn't listening to the O's extension?!?

and roberts isnt going to be an O in 2010.not a chance.they have a few more years b4 they even sniff contending in the al beast.

I agree with DodgersBruin about needing to get some sort of star caliber potential player in a deal for a star or ace. The difference here is that the Padres are not only rebuilding but trying to cut salary (maybe not if their new owner is willing to spend money). That was one of the reasons Towers was/is dealing from a touch position. He is the person with the need. He needs to dump Peavy's salary while the Cubs getting Peavy would be a luxury. I have a feeling why that can or will skew the deal in the Cubs direction. If the Cubs end up with Peavy they may not have to give up as much as you might think. I still think Vitters would have to be included along with Pie, Cedeno and maybe one or two of the pitchers from the Derosa trade or Hart. Just remember that Hendry is the one with the most leverage in these talks.

I am going out on a limb here a little. I will guarantee that Marshall will not be traded or included in any trade even if it is for a Peavy or a Roberts. Both Lou and Hendry know how important he is to the staff. He gives you quality depth in the rotation and in the bullpen. And he is left handed. I can’t think of many 26-27 year old pitchers you can say that about.

Hmmm.... Peavy, Big Z, Halladay, Dempster, Harden. All I can say is WOW! Talk about an intimidating rotation.

Whats the deal with Halladay anyway? I'm assuming he's free agent next year? If not there would be no way the Cubs would have enough farm IF they actually do land Peavy. Also, you gotta wonder how much Halladays got left. I know he's been a frickin' horse for several years now, throwing Sabathia-like complete games. I would love to see him in Chicago, but I'd hate to have another iffy arm under a huge contract. I wonder if his arm is going to fall off too?

I do like the way you think, gunsnascar. My fingers are crossed for that one, although they may cramp considerably by then.

Go Cubs!

1st off Halladay would be the #1 for the cubs if he was there. Yes over Peavy and Zambrano.

Also while Halladay has pitched a lot of innings he doesn't throw a lot of pitches/innings. Also he's not exactly a flame thrower I wouldn't worrie about his arm.

Also

"throwing Sabathia-like complete games."

I think you mean Sabathia throws Halladay-like complete games. Also don't forget Sabathia was not that great last season until he went to the NL, while Halladay was in the AL east lets see how many complete games Sabathia throws this season.

Did you watch Zambrano pitch last year? His arm slot kept getting lower and lower and lower. He even missed time because of arm issues and he has put a lot of pitches on his arm at a young age. He is showing all the classic signs of someone headed for arm problems.

Sure he might hold out one more year and he is a horse kind of like Livan was so maybe he avoids any serious problem and just becomes a 4.50 ERA guy young like Livan did but Zambrano has most likely seen his best days already.

That isn't 'Cubs' hate, that is just someone following baseball. He is certainly on my must avoid list for my fantasy teams.

I'll stick to the deal that will I think will be the closest the Cubs will get without a 3rd team becoming involved.

Josh Vitters
Sean Marshall
Felix Pie
Sean Marshall
2 guys from the DeRosa trade
Kevin Hart or Angel Guzman

BLEEDINGCUBBIEBLUE- Really, Six players for Peavy? He's good but he's not worth that much considering the Pads and Towers have virtually no leverage. Omit Marshall and we got a deal.

Actually, probably Hart instead of Pie since the Pads want young pitching.

and JOHN GARLAND does not force you to give up your future...

Rob- I would rather let marshall be the fith and sign a left for ther pen, or sign a veteran than have garland as our fifth starter

it would be a great pick up for the cubs to get peavy, but it just doesn't feel right giving up 6 players for one. couldnt the padres throu in like Luis Rodriguez or someone so we'll have a true backup third baseman? Does that sound stupid? i just dont like trading 6 for one player unless it's albert poujols haha.