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Buster Olney looks at the fallout for the Padres now that former D'Backs CEO Jeff Moorad has agreed in principle to buy the club with the help of some investors.
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I don't think the linked article can be called an "agreement in priciple".
That would imply that it's already decided, which hasn't been substantiated.
Posted by: kyledavidson | January 03, 2009 at 12:14 PM
*principle*
I love my typing prowess
Posted by: kyledavidson | January 03, 2009 at 12:14 PM
yeah they could take peavy off the market, but they need prospects cause no matter what they wont be a high market team. There still 3 years away from competing, with peavy having 4 years left and an option that the padres most likely wont pick up (there not gonna spend 22mil on one player.)
Posted by: ChiTownCubbies | January 03, 2009 at 12:15 PM
here's hoping moorad brings stability. assuming manny goes to the dodgers or the giants, which i think he will, the NL West could be a fun race to watch
Posted by: i_spit_hot_fire | January 03, 2009 at 12:18 PM
In the Piecoro Arizona Republic article that the MLBTR post links to it's called an "agreement in principle."
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/diamondbacks/articles/2009/01/02/20090102moorad-CR.html
Posted by: Ben Nicholson-Smith | January 03, 2009 at 12:19 PM
Good news for this organization. I too hope that he can bring some stability. I like Towers but clearly some other personnal can be changed.
Posted by: jlowrance | January 03, 2009 at 12:22 PM
Personnel*
Posted by: jlowrance | January 03, 2009 at 12:22 PM
Alderson and DePodesta got to go!
Posted by: A | January 03, 2009 at 01:00 PM
If Paul DePodesta is reading this, a lot of us Nats fans hope he'll consider coming back East.
Posted by: Hendo | January 03, 2009 at 01:04 PM
They can't take Peavy off the market!!! How are Cub fans going to win the 2009 offseason world series!!!! Just ask their fans, the cubs have won 25 consecutive offseason world series. You know like last year... when they traded for Brian Roberts and the cubs went 162-0 and then went 11-0 in the playoffs to win the world series. I know that happend. I read it on here from 1 million different cub fans. Cubs get Roberts, their lineup will look like this and that should get us the world series. Yep right after the cow jumps over the moon.
Posted by: chiefwahoo | January 03, 2009 at 01:21 PM
Do baseball owners make a profit or is it more of a rich man's dream?
I read somewhere that one of the NY newspapers was selling it's share of the Red Sox to free up some cash and because the baseball operation wasn't profitable.
I know there is a website out there that has financial statements of NFL teams, famous people charities, etc. Does anyone know this site or where I could find this information?
Posted by: Theo Epstein | January 03, 2009 at 01:24 PM
Alderson, Fuson, Gayton, and DePodesta got to go! I hope very soon.
Posted by: DTogo | January 03, 2009 at 01:29 PM
Would the change in Ownership lead to keeping Peavy, signing Hoffman and maybe also tap into signing a couple free agents to at least put out a competitive team. I would think new owners want to win initially. Maybe a deal with Manny might take place because of Moorad's relationship with him. Moorad has been known to get players he had as clients i.e. Shawn Green in his 1st offseason with Arizona.
Posted by: Woody | January 03, 2009 at 01:33 PM
Looks like this is the light at the end of the tunnel all Pads fans were waiting for. Moores did a great job but its time for a change.
Hopefully Moorad gives KT enough resources to put a winning team on the field. We all know KT is one of the best minds in baseball so just imagine what he would do with a little bit of cash. I like DePodesta as well, plus he has a nice blog that gives us updates on what the team is doing. To be honest this is a fine front office, the only one that I don't like much is Sandy but lets face it, the guy has been successful everywhere he is gone. I think we could've signed at least Ben Sheets or some other guy like Orlando Hudson to fill the SP and 2B holes had the Pads and owner John Moores not been in a situation where they have to slash payroll.
Posted by: Franco | January 03, 2009 at 01:34 PM
What's wrong with Alderson and DePo?
Posted by: gogopalehose | January 03, 2009 at 01:36 PM
I thought it was pretty hilarious. I just want all the delirious Cubs fans to stop with the Peavy talk.
Posted by: gogopalehose | January 03, 2009 at 01:52 PM
Wow. A Cow jumped over the moon comment. clap clap. I just kicked my dog because of that comment.
Posted by: HenryRowengartner | January 03, 2009 at 02:26 PM
Itd be pretty funny if the Peavy thing actually happened. I dont think it will but if it does itll totally be a kick in the pants for the people that jumped all over optimistic cub fans.
Posted by: HenryRowengartner | January 03, 2009 at 02:28 PM
"Would the change in Ownership lead to keeping Peavy, signing Hoffman and maybe also tap into signing a couple free agents to at least put out a competitive team."
My guess is Peavy is staying. With a new owner in place, no reason to trade your most valuable commodity. If so whats the point of even buying? A new owner doesnt necessarily mean more spending, but at the very least it means stability and no longer having the need to dump salary and implode your team. This has to be awesome news for Pads fans in what has been just an abysmal past year for them.
Posted by: forlife61 | January 03, 2009 at 02:36 PM
As a Padres fan I am happy about this news. Thought I am not looking for a white knight or anything, just some sense that we are an organization.
Personally I am still in favor of a Peavy trade, only cause we do need to rebuild. But that of course assumes the Padres could get max value for him.
Posted by: AirmanSD | January 03, 2009 at 02:42 PM
Great news. This will happen.
Posted by: LongtimePadresfan | January 03, 2009 at 02:56 PM
it could mean the padres would be less likely to rush into a peavy deal.
my guess is peavy still gets traded eventually.
Posted by: bkoke | January 03, 2009 at 03:11 PM
Very relieved padres fan.
One thing I hope Moorad does is bring in a pitchiung draft specialist. Fuson clearly knows how to draft positional players but we have NO ONE that can draft pitchers with any degree of intelligence. Any.
Posted by: ghh | January 03, 2009 at 03:16 PM
Lots of questions remain about Moorad...but it appears he will have the team by the time spring training breaks.
I would say that this will still be a lost season for the Pads as most of the free agents will be gone by the time Moorad assumes the helm.
As far as Alderson, I would love to see him move on. The "money-ball" theory has not worked out here, and has never produced a world series, or even a league championship.
Would love to see the Padres take the same theory as several teams and start drafting the best athlete available, not one that fits a certain mold. Has worked well for the Rays, Red Sox etc...
Hopefully Moorad comes in with a group that can spend 80-100 million in salary a year, and have the personell to draft and sign some ball players to fill the ranks from within.
Will it happen? Who knows, but it can't be as bad as the last year and a half have been for the Padres.
Posted by: Just another idiot | January 03, 2009 at 03:28 PM
two of the higher picks (carillo,schmidt) had tommy john. both were highly regarded and still could turn into outstanding pitchers.
Posted by: bkoke | January 03, 2009 at 03:29 PM
the red sox follow the same philosophy of OBP and SLG they just have more money to spend on it.
"The "money-ball" theory has not worked out here, and has never produced a world series, or even a league championship."
The A's won four division titles, three pennants and the 1989 World Series during Alderson's tenure last time i checked
Posted by: bkoke | January 03, 2009 at 03:32 PM
the padres have 0 chance of winning the nl west you either trade paevy now or before the trade deadline and hope to god he doesnt blow out his arm. 65% he is gone before opening day
Posted by: sanders20 | January 03, 2009 at 03:41 PM
Lets not rush to anything, this is a still no where close to a done deal. We have no idea what kind of money is backing this deal, and lastly what their connection would be to San Diego/Southern California.
And Alderson, well point blank it never works to have to decision makers, and thats what the Padres have in Towers and Alderson. One has to go, and the more likely target will be Alderson, with DePo staying on board as assistant GM.
80-100 million dollar payroll
? No way man, that will happen only if we the fans start going to every game, and selling out every game. There is no way the good afford that kind of payroll with current attendance. I think a 60-80 dollar payroll is about the limit at least in the short term.
Posted by: AirmanSD | January 03, 2009 at 03:43 PM
Ben Sheets makes a lot of sense pitching in the third slot for the Padres. If Moorad coming in means they don't have to stay at their currently meager $40MM payroll, down $30MM from last year, then a 3yr/$39MM deal could potentially be worked out and give San Diego one of the best top of the rotation rotations in baseball. Sheets' talent certainly demands more money, but the injury-riddled career he has had MAY leave him open to the deal mentioned.
Posted by: WestCoastBias | January 03, 2009 at 03:43 PM
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Posted by: ChiTownCubbies | January 03, 2009 at 03:48 PM
the good thing is if moorad can put together a strong team in the next few years the fans will come and the revenue will rise. something that wouldnt happen in AZ. their fan base over there is terrible.
Posted by: bkoke | January 03, 2009 at 03:49 PM
"They can't take Peavy off the market!!! How are Cub fans going to win the 2009 offseason world series!!!! Just ask their fans, the cubs have won 25 consecutive offseason world series. You know like last year... when they traded for Brian Roberts and the cubs went 162-0 and then went 11-0 in the playoffs to win the world series. I know that happend. I read it on here from 1 million different cub fans. Cubs get Roberts, their lineup will look like this and that should get us the world series. Yep right after the cow jumps over the moon."
They cant win the WS when the Yankees keep buying it from them.
Posted by: cubfanbudman | January 03, 2009 at 03:49 PM
Posted by: Just another idiot |
True.
Posted by: ArodSucksAtLife | January 03, 2009 at 03:56 PM
Great, just what we need here...somebody pimping a Cubs rumors site.
Posted by: unbiasedhomer | January 03, 2009 at 04:34 PM
" I just kicked my dog because of that comment."
Sarcastic or not anyone who jokes about abusing there animals or is serious doesnt deserve to live
Posted by: mikelovesbaseball94 | January 03, 2009 at 04:35 PM
bkoke - I do not think the 1989 A's were a "moneyball team".
My point was that in the true "moneyball" era, a team (including the A's) has not won a world series, or a league championship. I have tried to find when the A's actually adopted James's theories, but have not been able to.
I may be wrong about the 89 A's, but I have not see the "moneyball" theory work out in San Diego, and would love to see them move on from it.
Posted by: Just another idiot | January 03, 2009 at 04:37 PM
mikelovesbaseball94...in the immortal words of Sgt. Hulka "lighten up francis".
So you are saying that the abuse of animlas should be a death penalty sort of punishment?
Do you see the backwards thinking in your logic? People who hurt animals (which is horrible) should die (which is more horrible).
I don't think anyone actually kicked their dog over a stupid post on a baeball website, but your overreaction is amazing!
Just take a deep breath and focus your energy on something a little more substantial.
Posted by: Just another idiot | January 03, 2009 at 04:41 PM
I am not saying it should be a death penalty. I do see the backward in my logic but the abuse of animals drives me crazy and i feel its idiotic to bring it into a baseball thread. I know he didn't actually kick his dog but the abuse of animals is something that people are very passive about and personally i don't feel as if i over reacted because i wasn't angry or upset while typing the comment, and i know he was joking but it wasn't funny and animal abuse is offensive to some people and it was low life and unnecessary
Posted by: mikelovesbaseball94 | January 03, 2009 at 04:50 PM
To tell you the truth I dont even have a dog. Just joking around. But Ill report myself to a committee of people and see if its necessary that I die. And love the stripes quote. Definitely got a good laugh from that. FOREVER PETA!
Posted by: HenryRowengartner | January 03, 2009 at 05:15 PM
Mike - You said "Sarcastic or not anyone who jokes about abusing there animals or is serious doesnt deserve to live".
The words "doesnt deserve to live" is the equivelant of being dead. Hence, and overreaction. People do not desrve to die for abusing animals. Just becuase it wasn't funny does not mean that person is a low life...look at Carrot Top, he is not funny, does that mean he is a low life?
Choose your words carefully...
Posted by: Just another idiot | January 03, 2009 at 05:16 PM
On a different note. Towers might be enjoying this one. assuming he doesnt get canned for some odd reason. Onley is right. he does have a excellent rep. and with the right ownership he might be able to make some things happen. maybe turn the team around. Itd be nice if my team actually had an owner. so congrats to the pads
Posted by: HenryRowengartner | January 03, 2009 at 05:19 PM
See? Peavy isn't getting traded now because of the team's. I told you it wasn't happening.
On another note, does anybody find it hilarious that the Padres can be sold almost instantly, but the sale of the Cubs has taken years and is still nowhere near a conclusion?
Posted by: 123456789 | January 03, 2009 at 05:45 PM
because of the team's sale**
Posted by: 123456789 | January 03, 2009 at 05:46 PM
Yeah not sure how that works. Maybe because the cubs are such a huge/old orginization they need to find the most hapless real estate sap (doesnt care about baseball) to buy the team so they can use his money.
Posted by: HenryRowengartner | January 03, 2009 at 05:56 PM
well the cubs are probably worth 3 times as much as the padres
you cant expect moneyball to give you world series in 3 years. building through the farm takes time. if players like headley, antonelli, venable end up being flops ill agree with everyone. until then ill go with alderson.
the good thing is moorad too wants to build from within. similar philosophies that i like.
Posted by: bkoke | January 03, 2009 at 06:31 PM
"Choose your words carefully..."
That almost be ironical.
Posted by: ArodSucksAtLife | January 04, 2009 at 12:46 AM
Cubs, completely useless by September.
Posted by: kevinj | January 04, 2009 at 04:14 AM
bkoke-two of the higher picks (carillo,schmidt) had tommy john. both were highly regarded and still could turn into outstanding pitchers.
Schmidt is a type #3 arm at best. We do not know if Carrillo will get back to his old self. The Padres suck at draft top of the rotation pitchers look at their AA and AAA pitchers. Fuson Draft pitchers on pitchability than pure stuff. Also I read you post on Padres.com and you are the biggest homer I have ever read.
Posted by: DTogo | January 04, 2009 at 12:23 PM
bkoke-The A's won four division titles, three pennants and the 1989 World Series during Alderson's tenure last time i checked
Yeah with a high payroll Sandy Alderson style works.
89 Okland A's payroll was #5 in payroll. 90 Okland A #3 in payroll. 91 #1 in payroll.
Posted by: DTogo | January 04, 2009 at 12:28 PM
DTogo not sure how me being a homer has anything to do with this converstation nor you telling me on padres forum that i got "schooled" what are you 12?
of course a higher payroll is going to contribute to making a better team. did i ever say that it didnt. did i ever say they didnt have a higher payroll?
my point about the pitchers was that our two top picks of the last few years had tommy john. just bad luck really. another reason is because the money ball philosophy generally takes college players of high schoolers and hitters over pitchers.
statistics show a better success rate from drafting college players.
read moneyball you might learn something JR.
Posted by: bkoke | January 05, 2009 at 06:38 PM