Twins Showing Interest In Jarrod Washburn

No one in their right mind would take Washburn unless they paid at LEAST half of his contract, and I still only see a couple of dumb GMs doing that trade.

Seattle has plenty of outfielders
Don't really know why they would trade a pitcher and a catcher (a position you can never b too deep in) for a position they already have filled...
Not an M's fan, so I really don't know their system...

Why would they try to deal clement? shouldnt they be trying to keep him for the future????

this makes absolutely NO sense! why would the twins want washburn or clement? they have mauer and also have a 1B and too many DH's as it is. i thought clement was the mariners catcher of the future? i'm sure if they really wanted to move him they could get a good young pitcher or at least more than delmon young. and the twins already have 5 good young starters and 2 or 3 more ready in AAA, so adding washburn and his salary makes no sense. don't buy this rumor at all.

not buying this. it'd be horrible for the twins. they will lock up mauer because he is a twin for life and there is no room for either washburn or clement on the team.

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Mauer is not going to be traded. There would be absolutely no point. The Twins are not rebuilding - they are competitive NOW. Why trade arguably your most valuable player and waste money you could use to re-sign him on a below-average overpaid pitcher?

Mark me down on the list of people not buying this rumor.

"Question: Is delmon young projected to show much more power then he has ?"

Delmon Young had an adjustment year last year and played through an ankle injury for more than half the season. He has been compared to Griffey in terms of raw power. He is extremely undervalued - I'd say he has more power than any of his '09 projections will show.

That...is hysterical. Is Hickey related to Sid or Shooter?

mauer is not going anywhere people. the twins are saving money this offseason so they can spend it on the players they have NOW. think mauer, baker, liriano, etc... mauer will get 6 years at 14 mil+ from the twins, and i wouldn't be suprised if it's in spring training THIS year to make up for not doing much this offseason.

If the Rays didn't already have prospects at every level of the minors at every position, I'd say they should throw a couple of prospects at the Twins for Young.

delmon young hits 450 foot batting practice homers. but his gametime approach is seriously lacking. he swings at everything, especially the first pitch. if he doesn't change his approach, he's not going to be in the majors for long.

jhawk,

Clement has alot more potential with the bat. I think he is going to be a heck of a hitter. It's not like they gave Kubel a huge deal.

Why not Young for Beltre? I don't get it.

Please, God, no.

This makes no sense, though it's probably just bull dung ...

So let me get this straight - so far we've got:

-Delmon Young was "terrible" last year (.290/.336/.405/.741 age - 22)
-The Twins need another LH DH in Clement to complement...LH DH Kubel
-The Twins are going to take on Washburn and his 10.35 mil because who wouldn't pay that for a guy who went 2-7, 5.40ERA, 1.64WHIP, .309BAA...AT SAFECO!

So awesome...

Sorry forgot to add that he led the Twins in HR's after the All Star break. yeah no power

This trade would not make any sense..

Delmon Young will hit, its coming..
Washburn is BAD..
The Twins should ship a pitcher and something else and scoop up Beltre.. if you want to take Washburns money why not use those funds and make the team better?

This rumor is just garbage. Why would the Twins want Washburn? We have 5 young starting pitchers who aren't even arbitration eligible yet. And we do not need catching, we have the best catcher in the league and some pretty good catching prospects in the minors like Ramos.

This deal is hysterical, cause it's another one of those stupid rumors we hear all the time with the Twins that has about a 1% chance of even happening. The only trade that's going to happen is for a reliever. Bill Smith would have to be the most ignorant fool ever to trade away Young for pieces of crap like that. I just don't see how they end up trading for a 3b, Crede would be the most likely guy they would go after since they wouldn't have to give up any players for him, just money.

wow no offense to anyone, but anyone who keeps saying or asking "isn't Clement the catcher of the future for the M's?" should look at him more or listen to me, I'm a M's fan and live close by and have seen him a TON and he is in no way the catcher of the future...his knees aren't going to hold up for catcher and that is why he's going to be getting some DH time and also why they're working on 1B with him.....the only way he's a catcher in the future is if he occasionally catches...but honestly the guy has no real future as a full time catcher

This trade won't happen. The M's need a left-handed bat, and the Twins don't need a catcher. Neither front office is dumb enough to make this trade, let alone both.

"Delmon Young is going to be a beast. I can't believe that the Twins have actually been looking to deal him."

That's just it, they aren't. While I believe teams have been inquiring, I don't believe for a second that Smith has been seriously considering any offers.

As far as the Young bashing goes, there are Twins fans that bash just about every player on the roster - even Morneau and Mauer. It's old and tired, but as a regular reader of Twins blogs, it's something that you have to learn how to ignore.

There is a lot to like with Young and most fans love his upside, it's just that the bashers tend to be much more vocal. For the bashers, Young's biggest fault is that he didn't hit 40 homers last year. Second would be some ugly defensive plays he made last year that has the bashers convinced he's worthless in the field.

The truth of the matter is he has one of the best arms in the majors and saw a slight increase in offensive productivity in spite of moving from a decent hitters' park to the dome - which is rated one of the worst (though the bashers like to rip the hitting coach for the team's overall lack of power). Young is also under team control for several more years and is cheap. All huge pluses for the Twins. Young will be 23 this year. At that age he is just starting to get his man muscles. He's going to start hitting them out on a regular basis and it's going to start happening soon.

The rumors/offers are due to comments that Gardy made earlier in the off season that Span, Cuddy and Gomez would be his starting outfield if spring training started today. It was a stupid comment and was retracted almost as soon as it was made public. A lot of fans have also speculated that it was intended to motivate Young more than anything else. But it's a rumor with legs and it just won't die. Young trades have been linked to half the teams in the majors and yet he's still with the Twins.

This deal is SO not happening and Washburn is SO not on the Twins radar. Neither is Clements - even though I'm sure he's an awesome prospect. The Twins tried to get something going last year for Washburn when they were in a division race and needed bullpen help. The idea was to add Washburn and move Blackburn or Perkins to the bullpen. The Seattle brass wanted too much in return and that was that.

Minnesota has a set rotation and are loaded through out the system with pitching. They just wouldn't be interested in Washburn. And Clements wouldn't be any better of a fit either. Including Mauer and Redman, the Twins have five catchers on their 40 man roster.

For fun and just to make this deal even more unlikely, the reporter should have said that in addition to Washburn and Clements, Seattle was also including a low level outfield prospect with plus speed and no power.

Uh, that last bit was an inside joke for any Twins fans that might be reading this.

Seattle fans please believe me when I say that any trade between our teams that doesn't include Beltre, is a non-trade. And while I would buy into Beltre for Young much easier than this Washburn thing, ultimately, I don't see the Twins giving him up for a one season rental of any player no matter who they are.

Lastly, there are still a ton of FA arms out there that can be had for much less than what Washburn is making. If the Twins do pick up an arm, that's where they will get it.

Clements isn't going anywhere and neither is Young.

Why would the Twins want to take Washburn's bloated 10M + salary for 2009 on anyway? There are numerous far superior starters available via FA and several just as good that can be had probably on a Minor league contract from what he brings, Orlando hernandez is still available, even resign Livian Hernandez even Twins and get just as effective a starter as Washburn and keep Young, who may not husstle on the field all the time, but at least is a decent young ballplayer.

Mauer will still get his extension, but acquiring Clement would allow him to pull a Biggio, and switch to another position. By doing so he would extend his career, and make the extension even more worth it for the Twins.

I love Washburn's name...Wash(ed up) burn(ed out). Hard to believe the M's didn't jump on the Yankees offer to swallow his 09 salary. Glad as heck they didn't make the trade though.

The only way this might make sense is if they we going to then offer Clement and Blackburn or Perkins for a 3rd baseman, better than a Kouz or Atkins.

NO.

Why do the Twins need him anyway? They have pitching.
Liriano
Slowey
Baker
Perkins
Blackburn
They need more power and late inning relief help.

Too bad. As a mariners fan I would have loved to dump that trash of a pitcher named Washburn.

lets go over every important aspect of this deal and the twins in general

Delmon Young a #1 over pick whose power picked up last year and hit 290 in a bad year. Hes 23 and will be complete stud, the twins would be stupid enough just to start cuddy over him who is always injured with one good year.

trading him for washburn basically means you traded young garza and bartlett for washburn and a catcher you dont need.We need crede cuz busher coulndt feild in a little league game and he and harris dont have enough power.
HERES WHAT OUR LINEUP SHOULD BE:
1. Span (RF)
2. Casilla(2b)
3. Mauer (catcher)
4. Morneau(1b)
5-7. order goes by whats necessary that game but should be kubel, young and crede if we can get him. Cuddy gives ppl days of and plays vs lefties for kubel
8.punto(ss)-not good but no other options
9. gomez he too will be a stud and now we have 8,9,1,2 in all with amazing speed before power.