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Could Strasburg Move To Japan, Avoid Draft?

Aroldis Chapman can defect from his home country and become a free agent. Could Stephen Strasburg do something similar? Dave Sheinin of the Washington Post concludes that Scott Boras and his clients ultimately play by the rules Bud Selig makes. Here's a closer look at the super-agent and the system he's working within:

  • Boras wants Strasburg paid like a free agent, even though the Nationals have exclusive rights to him.
  • His asking price is believed to be $50MM, but no draft pick has ever surpassed Mark Prior's $10.5MM bonus.
  • The Post's Chico Harlan points out that, in accordance with the MLB rules, the Nats have likely offered Strasburg a preliminary deal already, though nothing Strasburg isn't expected to accept it.
  • Boras has hinted that he could take Strasburg to Japan if the Nationals don't offer enough money.  
  • MLB's vice-president of labor relations explains what will happen if Strasburg doesn't sign with the Nats: "He goes back into the draft, and if he doesn't sign with that team, he goes back in again."
  • Boras could try to work around the wording in the MLB rules and establish Strasburg as a resident in Japan. This could make him an international resident, which would allow him, in theory, to operate under the same system as international free agents.
  • However, the MLB rule ends with the following: "official interpretations of this Rule 4 may be made from time to time by the Commissioner or the Commissioner's designee." 
  • In other words, Bud Selig has the power to step in if Boras gets too creative for his liking. 


Comments

I guess I've been censored.

I don't usually refer to Boras a "feminine cleansing" bag but if he advises Stras to go to Japan then he would be doing the game a disservice as well as his client.

i read this, and was screaming at my laptop. I didn't like Boras before but now, I am not a nationals fan. But this is pathetic, Just to get this guy paid, you want to move him to japan, and take the number one draft pick away from the team that needs him the most. Wow Borass I am so glad the White Sox don't deal with him.

If I were a GM I'd be very wary of a player who behaves like his first contract is the most important one he will ever sign. Especially a pitcher.

For the good of baseball, somebody needs to pin a drug charge on this creep and make it stick.

Boras has got a big bag of tricks, I'll say that much. The dude knows how to do his job effectively.

Didn't someone suggest this a while ago, actually here?

Given what Boras demands, I don't mind this. It looks horrible to the MLB, Bud Selig, and especially Washington. I don't mind it, though, personally.

Boras is just doing his job; trying to get hsi client as much money as possible. I think he could get money from a different club, personally. It makes business sense. Of course, my team could benefit from this, hehe. I'd love to see him as a Bomber.

I wonder if we see this with Bryce Harper next year? Maybe.

YanksFanSince78: for the first time, I agree with you on these boards. I was thinking the *EXACT* same thing with respect to Boras.

After the Pedro Alvarez garbage from last year, I'm fed up with him. Last year, Boras used the same tactic (completing a deal after the deadline) with Alvarez that he did with Borbon (the OF from U of Tennessee), except he liked the terms that Borbon got so he didn't take that contract to the Union.

This would NOT be right.

Yet another reason baseball needs a draft system in place that you get picked at a slot you get paid XXX, you don't sign you sit out for some time. no more of this "i don't like the team i was drafted by, so i will go in again next year and take my chances". you are a stud, you have to expect to get picked by the crappy teams.

And this is coming from a guy who was cursing Boras around this time last year over the Alvarez fiasco. But he always gets his clients paid top dollar.

The usual Boras defending crowd will be along shortly YFS78, Little Bear etc.. I don't blame you both and I agree. I wish there was a way to get this creep out of the game. Tie him and Fehr to steroids or something

I can't even see Boras sympathizers excusing this. He's pretty much ruining a potentially phenomenal pitcher's reputation by convincing him to settle for nothing less than an unreasonable amount. We don't know how greedy Strasburg is but judging from the past I wouldn't be surprised if it was mostly Boras. Someone should direct Strasburg to Matt Harrington to see what road he's possibly heading down.

UnbiasedYank: It will be even WORSE with Harper next year. Guaranteed.

In before the Boras bashing.

1. The players CHOOSE Boras. They can always fire Boras and hire someone else if they don't like his tactics. Boras works for players, not owners or MLB. If you hire a real estate agent to sell your house, you want the one who's going to get you the most money for your property.

And Strasburg doesn't HAVE to say OK to any of Boras's plans. Boras has as much control over Strasburg as Strasburg gives him.

2. That being said, this is all a huge risk, one that is arguably not worth taking. If he goes to Japan and doesn't dominate there (NPB is tougher than college ball), he's SOL. If he gets hurt, he's SOL.

Nats lose nothing b/c all that means is that they have a #1 and #2 pick next draft, and Bryce Harper will probably be in the draft then.

Quite honestly, while I'm sure much of this rests on Boras...I do recall an interview with Strasburg where he was cool with the fact he would be taking this summer off from baseball. I believe he was quoted saying he will enjoy traveling this summer, and due to the heavy workload he had this year with SDSU, he was cool with having some time off from baseball.

Not the kind of attitude I want $50-60m invested in.

Boras can try and try all he wants, but as long as Strasburg is an America citizen with college eligibility remaining, he's draft eligible.

Playing in Japan is no different than playing in an independent league in this situation.

Hold on...are we saying Strasburg goes to Japan to play? I don't think that's what they are talking about. I think they are talking about him becoming a legal resident of Japan.

I think they are talking about him simply becoming a "resident" in Japan, so he is an international player. That would make him an international free agent.

If he signs with a team in Japan...couldn't you get into the whole "posting" process? I guess it would depend on his contract there.

"Quite honestly, while I'm sure much of this rests on Boras...I do recall an interview with Strasburg where he was cool with the fact he would be taking this summer off from baseball. I believe he was quoted saying he will enjoy traveling this summer, and due to the heavy workload he had this year with SDSU, he was cool with having some time off from baseball.

Not the kind of attitude I want $50-60m invested in."

That's a good thing though.

IP thresholds. I don't know about Strasburg's usage at SDSU, but lots of college coaches run their aces' arms in ways any MLB manager would get absolutely lambasted for doing.

It's a great precaution to take AGAINST future injury.

This whining about the draft is just getting ridiculous. As long as players get shafted for their first 3 years in the majors, I'm all for them getting as much money as possible up front.

And stop hating on Boras. He's just doing his job and trying to leverage his client into getting the best possible deal. Why should he and Strasburg take way less than he's worth from the Nats? Just to be nice to them? Seriously, its a business people.

Boras has ruined the game of baseball. And these kids are slowing ruining it as well, playing for the money, rather than for the game itself. Sad. Shameful.Embarassing.

I still don't understand why international players are not part of the draft process. If baseball ever wanted a truely level playing field set a hard cap (and floor) and force all players through the draft. Why should American players be subject to the draft if international players aren't baseball has become a world sport and the MLB should treat it like one.

I'm torn. On one hand as a Braves fan, I want him out of the NL East. On the other, it seems very wrong to baseball and Nats fans.

Another crappy move by the dark lord of baseball.

Nats fans, be glad you got 2 first round picks.

Because having a worldwide draft would be a huge fiasco that I doubt anyone wants to deal with. When are international players eligible? Are you going to force them to wait until they're 18 like most high school players? If they're eligible at 16 like they are now, don't US players deserve the same rights? What happens to international players that don't sign with the team drafting them? What about Japanese players that are going to play professionally in Japan? Teams can't hold the rights to players and they have to deal with the posting system over there, which completely conflicts with the draft.

Boras has ruined the game of baseball. And these kids are slowing ruining it as well, playing for the money, rather than for the game itself. Sad. Shameful.Embarassing.

Posted by: lincecum4cy | July 03, 2009 at 03:28 PM
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What an asinine post. Yeah, the game was much better back before free agency when players were essentially indentured servants and the owners got to rake in huge profits. I mean its not like the prospect of making huge amounts of money has drawn far, far more people into dedicating there lives into making a living in the game. Besides who cares how good a player is if he's not just playing for the love of the game right?

Now after thinking about it, I agree with Nixa. It is a buisness, not a charity.

While this is a crappy thing for the Nats, it is a buisness and money makes the world go around.

"Tie him and Fehr to steroids or something"

Yeah, that's actually what I meant by a "drug charge". I do believe he's knee deep in steroid enabling (and cover-ups), which could be exposed with enough effort.

Boras is a crook.

If low budget teams have problems signing drafted players, how can you expect them to pay for these international players who command around 2-4 million bucks.
All those who suggest a international draft are the same ones who don't like high budget teams like Boston, Yankees and Mets.

I have a few points, One I was thinking he'd go there to play, then the MLB would have to deal with posting fees, and then of course he wouldn't get as much money because teams would pay the posting fee (probably more than the guy from Boston got). Also there is the thing of he gets hurt, or sucks. Two, if he moves there and becomes a resident but doesn't play, how long would that take? In the US doesn't it take a couple of years? So he's going to take the kid out of organized baseball for a couple of years? Then his money will go down again. This all just sounds stupid to me. He should be paid like a free agent? Well that's the problem, he isn't, he can't be, and he won't be if he doesn't sign. It's one thing for Borass to play these games with real free agents, but to be doing it with draft picks? Come on, he obviously only cares about money, and so does Strasburg. If he's as good as he says he is, then prove it and get your money when you earn it, not before you've thrown 1 pitch in professional baseball.

Maybe they do need some sort of slotting system and cap for these draft picks like there is in the NFL and NBA, thus teams with worse records can draft the better talents without worrying about signability.

Ban Borris from Baseball!!!!!!

DominicanYanks: as a Pirates fan, I'm less concerned with the $2-4M international player than I am the college pitcher that "should" get $50m out of college (or high school for that matter). I don't feel that domestic players should be able to find a "loop hole" that allows them to become free agents. The draft is in place for a reason, and if agents find ways to skirt the system it is wrong.

If the Yankees can afford the Chapman kid for $50m, then they should sign him as he is an international free agent from the start.

I just think that if Boras is as good as he is, then he should work to craft a contract that will pay Strasburg big money, as long as he produces.

No one is simply worth $50m because they dominated college (and they dominated everyone except U of VA). If he is as good as Boras thinks, he should have no problem meeting contractual requirements to put him in the majors and earn big money in his first contract - craft it as such and let him earn as much as he can. But he should earn it.

People need to stop comparing the MLB draft to the NFL and NBA. Those leagues don't have true minor leagues and players are expected to contribute over the first few years. Those leagues also don't severely restrict the amount a player can make for their first 3 years as a pro and make them wait 6 years until they can become a FA. If you want a hard slotting system in baseball, then you have to stop screwing players with limited service time. Then low revenue teams will still struggle to compete anyway because they won't be able to afford their good young players and they won't having the bargaining power to sign them to long term below market deals.

We're still a month and a half away from the deadline. Of course Boras is still holding firm to his claim that Strasburg wants around 50 million. Of course he's trying to drum up as much leverage as possible by bringing up Starsburg going to Japan. None of this means that when it comes down to it he won't get Strasburg signed to a contract in the 15-25 million range when everything is said and done. God people love overreacting.

If the kid does go and play for Japan, I hope he either sucks or gets hurt, and I don't wish getting hurt on anyone. I would feel bad for the kid, but it would prevent anything like this from happening in the future because of the risk

As for a hard slotting system, I don't care if the whole first round can get up to a 7-8 million dollar bonus, but how this all plays out is stupid. Comparing it to the NFL and NBA has to be done, those players can come in and compete right away, where Baseball players usually see at least half a year in the minors, and that's for the absolute best. Strasburg hasn't shown he can do anything, so he shouldn't get paid like he is a free agent, he's a draft pick. Put clauses in the contract that allow him to get more money for reaching certain goals, and make it so it's not something the team can take away by benching him. Such as strikeouts per inning, or WHIP. Or have a clause that says he can become a free agent in 3 years from the day he reaches the majors, I don't know if that can be done, but if he's allowed to skirt the system by taking a player to Japan, that would kill the draft as all top players would do the same thing. As I said before, I don't mind so much Boras doing this to free agents, but to do it with a kid who hasn't thrown 1 pitch in professional baseball is just stupid.

Also in the NFL and NBA I believe their minimum contracts out of the draft is 3 years, for top round picks anyway, so there is the 3 years under team control. Also in the NFL their contracts aren't guaranteed like they are in the MLB, if they stink, they can be cut and lose the rest of that salary. In the MLB if you sign a contract, you get that money no matter what.

Boras is a sneaky man.


He'll probably do this with Bruce Harper next year, and if they both become FA's, then there is one team in New York that is always willing to shell out the big bucks...Strasburg to Harper would be one hell of a combo

This seems like a stratagy to get Stras signed sooner and for the money HE is commanding. Just a bunch of B.S eing churned out of the Boras clan.

NFL draft is definitely a much more suitable comparison for how the MLB draft should be.

First of all, players should have to declare for the draft. This business of getting drafted by a certain team and then not signing because they didn't offer enough money or they are a certain team (Nats, Pirates, whatever), is bogus. You should have to declare, and if you get picked and you don't like where you are, tough luck. Once you are drafted, if you don't sign with your team, you are ineligible from participating in Major League Baseball. Implementing this rule will greatly improve the quality of the game as more HS players that aren't ready for the minors will think twice and will go to college and get better and have a better chance at cracking an MLB roster, rather than struggle in the minors and fizzle out.

Second, contractual worth and signing bonuses should be determined based on draft selection. None of this "my client deserves this signing bonus or he won't sign" crap. Plus, allowing players to be eligible for the draft only once, will help solve this issue of signing bonuses.

It's time for baseball to bring down it's iron fist and start becoming a more draconian society. If there is a possibility the players get screwed, so what? It is we, the fans, who finance this sport. We are the ones who support the advertisers and we are the ones who buy the tickets to the games and buy team merchandise. And what we want, we should get. And for starters what most of us want is Boras out of baseball. Enough of his clever tricks and weaseling his way within the rules. Ban Boras and if players try to stick with him, then ban them as well and bring up replacement players. Major League Baseball will live as long as there are fans willing to watch.

Boras and his players seem to think themselves of being indispensable to the game. They are wrong. They are very very very wrong.

Sorry, while I am a fan of a small market team (Pirates), I am NOT a proponent of hard-slotting money in the MLB draft. The NFL and NBA drafts put players (for the most part) directly into their professional league, and the guys are able to contribute immediately - sometimes becoming an immediate impact player.

This is not the case in MLB. Players typically spend 2 or 3 years in the minor leagues before they even make the big league roster...IF they make the big league roster.

I think it is bad enough when Scott Boras has Pedro Alvarez sign a MAJOR LEAGUE CONTRACT - eating up a spot on the 40-man roster - only to be overmatched in AA (I watched Brian Matusz stick it up his rear this past weekend). Next thing you'll have the #1-#5 picks slotted for big bucks AND major league contracts, even for high school kids that are 2-5 years away!

You just can't hard-slot guys. It may cost a team more money to sign a #5 pick, who is a high school senior, than it would the #4 team to sign their guy, a college senior. But at least the current system allows teams to draft players based on signability, and thus allowing high-end amateur players to drop down to teams that can afford them.

2. That being said, this is all a huge risk, one that is arguably not worth taking. If he goes to Japan and doesn't dominate there (NPB is tougher than college ball), he's SOL. If he gets hurt, he's SOL.
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Melonis, this is the reason I said "disservice to the game and his client". Huge risk for Stras, yes he'll have the money short term, but I assume the plan would be to sign a 1 or 2 year deal and then come back to the states as a free agent. If he get's hurt or sucks in Japan it could cost Stras 10's of millions. True indeed, Boras can be fired, but he has soooooo much influence on a draftee and their family probably. He's the only "baseball industry" person in his ear.

This whining about the draft is just getting ridiculous. As long as players get shafted for their first 3 years in the majors, I'm all for them getting as much money as possible up front.

And stop hating on Boras. He's just doing his job and trying to leverage his client into getting the best possible deal. Why should he and Strasburg take way less than he's worth from the Nats? Just to be nice to them? Seriously, its a business people.

Posted by: nixa37 | July 03, 2009 at 03:18 PM
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Isn't that the issue? If the highest previous deal was Prior's for $10 mil and Boras wants $50 or $60 mil then how can you or anyone say that $30 mil isn't what he's worth? How can any player who hasn't played a single game of professional ball have a set market value? Keep in mind that even at $30 mil that's still 3x more than any other player ever received. But to send him to Japan to establish citizenship is making a mockery out of the draft.

Japan is the hardest country in the world to establish citizenship in, unless you are a county where you would be a recognized refugee. Even if Strasburg married a Japanese national it would take some time.

If he is going to play for a Japanese team, and he plays there and that team decides to post him, then its completely by the rules. I think there will be many teams that will be interested in some quick cash to rennovate their stadium bathrooms to give the "deluxe bathroom experience."

"I think it is bad enough when Scott Boras has Pedro Alvarez sign a MAJOR LEAGUE CONTRACT - eating up a spot on the 40-man roster - only to be overmatched in AA (I watched Brian Matusz stick it up his rear this past weekend)."

Yes. That's the #1 problem with the draft. Right there. That's what handcuffs teams, not high signing bonuses. Signing players to major league contracts, which means that the player burns an option year each season even if they don't play a single game in the bigs that season. So the player doesn't have his option years down the road when the team may need them. If there is one thing MLB needs to do to the draft, its ban major league contracts to draft picks.

" Next thing you'll have the #1-#5 picks slotted for big bucks AND major league contracts, even for high school kids that are 2-5 years away!"

Rick Porcello got a major league contract out of high school. I'm betting a bunch of those young arms taken in the first round get major league contracts.

YanksFanSince78,

Strasburg's clearly worth far more than he is likely to get through the draft process. That's what happens when you don't let people bid for players on an open market. And stop taking everything Boras says at face value. The $50 million thing is meaningless. He's posturing to get his client the most money possible. That's his job.

Anyway, my point was that Boras shouldn't just have Strasburg sign with the Nats for whatever their first offer is just to help them out. His job is to get his client as much money as possible and he's great at it.

nixa37: that is where you're wrong - he is worth EXACTLY what he gets via the draft.

He is an amateur that was drafted #1.

He is not a "sure shot", because there is NO SUCH THING as a "sure shot".

Major league contract? Fine. $15M for a "one-of-a-kind talent", as Boras puts it? Fine...but he is NOT a free agent, and as such should be treated like an amateur that was selected #1.

Two things need to be done.
1. Remove the "with the player's permission" clause before the same team can pick the player again is subsequent drafts.
2. Require that the player sign for the "slot" pay if he was not signed his 1st year in the draft.

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