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5:16pm: According to La Velle E. Neal III of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, the Twins have offered a deal around $3MM, contingent on verification of Sano's age and identification. It seems most of these clubs are willing to hold off until both have been verified.
3:34pm: Arangure Jr. says he's been assured the Pirates haven't offered Sano a deal. As he says, the difference between an offer and the parameters of a deal may just be "semantics," especially since Sano's age is still under investigation.
2:55pm: Kovacevic hears from multiple sources that the Pirates offered Sano a deal yesterday morning. However, nothing will likely materialize before MLB completes the investigation into Sano's age.
2:27pm: Roch Kubatko of MASN.com reports that the Orioles won't be signing Sano in the immediate future.
1:25pm: Arangure Jr. hears that the MLB investigation into Sano's age won't be completed today. Safe to say he won't sign today then.
12:24pm: MLB.com's Jen Langosch reports that the Pirates have not yet made Sano an offer.
9:47am: ESPN.com's Jorge Arangure Jr. hears that the Pirates haven't made Sano an offer yet.
8:56am: Today marks the beginning of the international signing period, when teams can start signing the latest crop of young international stars and the Pirates are starting the day off aggressively. Dejan Kovacevic of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports they are believed to have offered Miguel Angel Sano a contract, the terms of which are still unknown.
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Please Bill Smith, outbid the Buccos on this one...
You've done practically nothing to instill any faith that you're a competent GM... signing Sano would a move to show that you've got a clue.
You were dumb enough to give Nick Punto $9MM... Sano's bonus will likely be half of that.
Don't screw this one up Smith; we already missed out on Miguel Cabrera a few years back.
Posted by: MorneauVP | July 02, 2009 at 09:09 AM
Rene Gayo has done a good job as the "in between" with Sano and the Pirates. I still think the Buccos have the upper hand in signing this kid.
Posted by: enchinga | July 02, 2009 at 09:38 AM
Bob Nutting, please increase the budget just enough to sign Sano. A lot of people still ignorantly think you don't want to spend money, and here would be yet another great way to prove to them otherwise.
Posted by: piratesmvp04 | July 02, 2009 at 09:40 AM
can someone give me a scouting report on Sano?
Posted by: JW | July 02, 2009 at 10:38 AM
JW, just some things I've read, there was an ESPN article on him a few months back, can't find it right now...
He's been called Albert Pujols in Hanley's body. 6'3, 190. Could move to 3B or LF, five tools. Widely considered the best international guy this year. Supposed to have a gorgeous swing and great range at short, but with his size and chances of filling out might not be able to stay there.
Posted by: BuccoNation | July 02, 2009 at 11:03 AM
C'mon Neal, get this thing done. Wrap up a good week for the Buccos.
Posted by: LongSufferingBucsFan | July 02, 2009 at 11:28 AM
1. Miguel Sano, SS, Dominican Republic
DOB: 5/11/93
Height/Weight: 6-3/190
Bats/Throws: R/R
Agent: Rob Plummer
Pros: Sano has been described as "special" by multiple international scouting directors, and it all starts with the bat. He has a short, direct stroke that consistently shows up in games along with his present average-grade raw power to all fields, which will grow as his projectable frame fills out. Sano is athletic, with the hands and the arm to play shortstop for now. All reports on his makeup are excellent.
Cons: Sano's speed is average, and as he fills out he'll lose some of it, moving to third base or even right field. Some will nitpick and say that Sano is stiff, but even his detractors agree he's easily a seven-figure talent. As with many high-profile Dominicans, there are incessant whispers about his age. There is no evidence to suggest that he isn't 16, and one international scouting director commented, "Everyone thought Shaq and LeBron looked older too. It's a combination of a rare talent and jealous teams." Sano's agent went so far as to get a DNA bone graft, which is becoming very common for top prospects. The results have a 12-month window, and say that Sano is 16 or 17; nothing to see here.
Posted by: johns | July 02, 2009 at 12:33 PM
The Orioles have major needs at SS and 3B, they need to sign this kid. It wouldn't surprise me if the Red Sox all of a sudden swooped in and signed Sano.
Posted by: sportscrack.com | July 02, 2009 at 12:39 PM
Ben, I believe its Michael Inoa, not Ynoa
Posted by: gigantes | July 02, 2009 at 12:40 PM
I'm personally reporting that the Pirates have not made an offer yet.
Posted by: pas493 | July 02, 2009 at 01:18 PM
The correct spelling is Ynoa.
Posted by: LG2400 | July 02, 2009 at 01:53 PM
" It wouldn't surprise me if the Red Sox all of a sudden swooped in and signed Sano."
I can't see it, unless they plan on spending more on just IFA's this year than on the draft last year (10M)
They have SS Jose Vinicio at 2M, LHP Victor Payano at 900K, are favorites for RHP Raul Alcantara at 500K, favorites on OF Max Kepler (no figures), Chax Tomosina at 1.2M, SS Jose Iglesias at 2M and are still "in" on Luis Sardinas and Rafael Depaula if some miracle were to happen and he were to be reinstated as eligible.
Just not enough cash can see to afford Sano and 3M++
Posted by: johns | July 02, 2009 at 01:55 PM
This is when small market teams need to spend their money.
The draft and international prospects are the way to build a farm system, and Sano is one of the best position prospects to come out in a while, along with Wagner Mateo and Gary Sanchez.
Posted by: scribbletone | July 02, 2009 at 02:11 PM
Twins Twins Twins Twins Twins...
Please Bill Smith, show a sign of life and let us know you're not completely and utterly inept.
Posted by: MorneauVP | July 02, 2009 at 02:31 PM
How 'bout you make an offer (in fact, make all these offers) contingent upon verification of the kid's age? That'd fix the problem, PDQ. Just make the age verification part of the process. No good suspending the kid for a year AFTER he's collected his $ 3 million bonus.
Posted by: Tigerdog | July 02, 2009 at 02:42 PM
It's official. Bucs made an offer and a visit to his house. We need this.
Posted by: BuccoNation | July 02, 2009 at 02:50 PM
Seal the deal! Please, for the love of God, seal the deal.
Posted by: LongSufferingBucsFan | July 02, 2009 at 03:08 PM
Can someone please tell me the obsession with the Pirates on this site?? Everyday I see atleast one or two posts on the Pirates. It doesn't matter if they sign this kid they will just trade him anyways like they do with all their young talent. Why all these posts on the Pirates? Year in and year out they don't compete, the average person could care less about the recent rumors involving the Pirates, outside of the Sano signing.
Posted by: prideofpeoria | July 02, 2009 at 03:14 PM
C'mon!!! Let's go, Andy! Swoop in there and outbid the Bucs! Anyone have any idea when the MLB investigation will be over already?
Posted by: milehigh78 | July 02, 2009 at 03:20 PM
"Can someone please tell me the obsession with the Pirates on this site?? Everyday I see atleast one or two posts on the Pirates. It doesn't matter if they sign this kid they will just trade him anyways like they do with all their young talent. Why all these posts on the Pirates? Year in and year out they don't compete, the average person could care less about the recent rumors involving the Pirates, outside of the Sano signing."
I guess they feel it's newsworthy. This is coming from the guy who's the pride of peoria. Must be a Cubs fan? When's the last time your team won a World Series?
Posted by: indybucfan | July 02, 2009 at 03:30 PM
This site reports trade rumors. The Pirates are involved in trades. Is it that hard to figure out, genius?
Posted by: LongSufferingBucsFan | July 02, 2009 at 03:45 PM
Go watch ESPN if you want to hear nothing but Red Sox and Yanks coverage, prideofpissandmoan, but the last time I checked, the Pirates were still a MLB team and this is a website that covers MLB transactions. The Bucs made quite a few trades these past few days, but since this knucklehead doesn't want to read about the lowly pirates, perhaps we should limit coverage to the other 29 teams, eh Tim?
Posted by: bucs_lose_again | July 02, 2009 at 04:24 PM
Haha, Peeoria, you mad?
Posted by: BuccoNation | July 02, 2009 at 04:30 PM
LaVelle E Neal at the Strib reporting in his blog that the Twins have offered $3mil... conditioned on Sano proving he's 16.
Consider me very surprised the Twins are willing to write that kind of check.
Posted by: JimCrikket | July 02, 2009 at 04:53 PM
peoria:
the bucs are trying to find the same winning formula the marlins, twins, and A's have found. develop that homegrown talent, if you get enough of it assembled at one time, you hold them together while you can, make a serous run at it, then firesale to rebuyild and hope you can make another serious run a few years down the road.
dealing mcclouth, morgan, and later others hopefully including sanchez and adam laroche (i doubt they can move wilson unless they pay a large portion of his contract) will allow them to do that.
thus, they will be on this site a lot. chill
Posted by: my poor buccos | July 02, 2009 at 06:33 PM
my poor buccos, given the list you said have done nothing in Oct, you should probably be saying more of the Phils, Dodgers, BoSox, etc
With Sano, I wonder if the dodgers get in. I know, it doesnt seem that likely. However, teams that dont have a 1st rounder usually spend in the IFA market. He would look really good in dodger blue at 3B in a few yrs..
Posted by: lakersdodgersyankees4life | July 02, 2009 at 06:59 PM
my poor buccos, given the list you said have done nothing in Oct, you should probably be saying more of the Phils, Dodgers, BoSox, etc
And how many world series' have the dodgers won in recent years, I believe the Marlins have won 2 since 1997. Plus not everytime has the ability to fork out 15+ million/year contracts, like the teams you've listed.
Posted by: yokedog22 | July 02, 2009 at 07:04 PM
we better sign this kid (buccs)
Posted by: Big G | July 02, 2009 at 07:05 PM
Not every team*
Posted by: yokedog22 | July 02, 2009 at 07:05 PM
I'm confident that as long as the Bucs match the highest offer (unless ours is the highest), Sano will sign with us. That's the advantage of building a relationship like we've built with this kid. If the bidding cracks 4 mil, I'll get a little nervous. Still think he's ours.
Posted by: BuccoNation | July 02, 2009 at 07:09 PM
I'm really hoping Neal can pull this off. I think he will increase the budget to get the deal done. A ton of people are criticizing him for the first round pick of Sanchez, but that pick allowed us to get better, more expensive prospects throughout the draft and hopefully getting Sano. People don't understand that the current management has done a very good job and have already built up a very good minor league system in a little over a year. We are still a few years away from competing for the division, but we are stepping in the right direction. It is hard to fix so many problems that the prior management have caused.
Posted by: LetsGoBucs921 | July 02, 2009 at 09:18 PM
Apparently the O's are the front runner as of tonight, and the Rangers are sniffing around now too. Surprising after that post earlier saying they borrowed money from MLB.
I don't know how much being a "front runner" means at this point, since he's supposedly not signing for a few days, but not good news to hear as a Bucco or Twins fan. This kids been a hot topic for the last few months around here, would be tough to not get em. I'm hoping Dejan drops a little knowledge on us in a half hour with his nightly post.
Posted by: BuccoNation | July 02, 2009 at 11:12 PM
@Letsgobucs,
Until we win, the new FO will no doubt be questioned for everything they do. And rightfully so. To the casual fan it's the same old song and dance. How many times did we trade guys away with the promise that it was part of righting the ship, only to keep losing? But I think the fans who really see what these guys are doing, and doing well, including myself, are on board, and excited. With that said, they need to follow thru and sign more draft picks, and hopefully, Sano. I really think that Milledge move will open a lot of eyes and shut a lot of the naysayers up, moves like that are the complete opposite of the Littlefield era. But yeah, Sano would be huge, no doubt.
Posted by: BuccoNation | July 02, 2009 at 11:22 PM
"I really think that Milledge move will open a lot of eyes and shut a lot of the naysayers up"
That's what Nats fans were saying...
Posted by: THEBIGFISH99 | July 03, 2009 at 09:04 AM