Ricciardi On Halladay

I think that officially should remove the Yanks, Boston and Mets from any discussions about being potential trade partners. I ust can't see the Yanks or Boston giving up what's required for Halladay W/O being able to extend him. A trade w/ an extension was tought to figure and w/o I just couldn't see it happening. As for the Mets, they have so few prospects to begin with and I can't see them totally killing their future just for 1 1/2 of Halladay.

I think that moves smaller market teams with deep farm systems and short window of opportunity into the front of the pack. Aside from the Phillies that leaves Texas, Milwaukee, Rays, St. Louis and maybe Cincinnati?

what is this hallaDAY! can we talk about someone else that is actually going to be traded this year...

As good as Halladay is (best pitcher in the majors, in my opinion), i don't see the red sox and jays matching up at all.

if the jays do indeed want hitting, the sox have no one who is close to "big league" ready, especially not a shortstop or catcher.

and if the sox got halladay, both he and beckett would become free agents after the 2010 season, which isn't a situation the sox would like to get into.

not knowing the blue jays' minor league depth...
(hypothetically) a package would start at buchholz and bowden, plus another 1-2 top prospects.

again, i don't see the sox being all that interested.

04forever...

well, the sox are asking about garrett atkins. does that do anything for ya?

As a Met fan as much as I'd love to see a Santana/Halladay combo the team a) can't afford to let go/doesn't have the prospects needed to pull off a trade and b) what's the use of pitching if you can't hit? I could see Halladay's games like Santana's the other day, gave up only 2 runs but the offense did jack.

I'd wonder if he'd end up pitching in Philly of if he refused due to it being a notorious hitters park.

the Mets absolutely have squat. Fernando Martinez is decent, but overrated. After him they have Flores who is 17 and then what? Parnell? Niese? certainly nothing the Phillies or about 10 other teams couldnt easily top

If Ricciardi knows that Halladay will not resign in 2010, why wait till the offseason or next year's trade deadline to deal him, the offers will go down. Now is the time to maximize the value and not piss off the entire blue jays fan base.

"well, the sox are asking about garrett atkins. does that do anything for ya?"

We could use another .225 hitter in the lineup, in case Varitek or Ortiz gets hurt.

You make a valid point, YanksFanSince78. However, since JP has come out and said he won't grant any team a window for an extension, it drives down the price a little bit. Teams will be offering up a package they deem worthy of 1.5 years of Halladay, knowing they will not have the ability to work out an extension prior to trading for him. If JP were to grant a negotiating window, the resulting trade package would be greater but it would also make trading Doc a lot harder. He's willing to see what he can get for 1.5 yrs of Doc and I don't think the Sox/Yanks/Mets are going to let a guy like this go without putting in a strong big.

Posted by: Papelboner | July 08, 2009 at 01:23 PM
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Strictly from a Yanks perspective, I can't see them offering more than what they offered for Santana to get Halladay. Santana was much younger and willing to sign an extension. Yanks would look foolish for doing that now just for 1 1/2 of Halladay. I think Cash has to way the future since any deal would probably haave to include Hughes, Austin or Montero/Romine each of which is a possible replacement for Pettite, Damon and Posada.

Brewers could be a great fit. They have pieces Jays could use and are in a position to make a playoff run for a couple of years with upgraded pitching...

Untouchable minor leaguers, lmao.

Roy Halladay is a proven top 3 pitcher presently in the majors.

Who has been playing against top notch teams like Boston and New York in the AL east division, the past decade. And in the leauge of the DHs.

Pitched the most innings since 2003, could be 2002, even when missing a great portion of the season in '04 and '05.

Just recently came back from injury and still tied for 1st for wins.

Played for a team last year that was in the bottum of the AL, and one the worst in the majors, in hitting with RISP, in overall AVG, HR, RBI last year. And still manage to get 20 wins. And he pitches in a HR type stadium. This guy should be putting up wins in the high twenties with the right team.

Pitches a lot of complete games per season. Should be more if it wasn't for a coach like Gibby.
For example: Pulls Roy during the ninth, with only one more out to go, just so newly aquired closer BJ Ryan can earn a save. And he nevered complained. How many other pitchers can pitch the amount of CG he does? ...who even pitched more than him the past 7 years or so?

This guy is a big 6'5'', 225 lbs and is in better shape than literally every other ace on each team. All the others elite pitchers are either overwieght, CC Sabathia, or tiny, like Santana.

Won a Cy Young. Seems to finish in the top in voting, or runner up, for the Cy young each year.

He never throws anything straight. All his pitches have movement. This coming from scouting and the best hitters alike:
Derek Jeter was quoted as saying that Halladay is "probably the best starter in baseball."
Alex Rodriguez was also quoted on saying that Halladay is the best pitcher in the MLB.

He's a ground ball pitchter and can get out of a bad situation with a double play with ease, but there's no need because he rarely gets into those situations. Though he pitches for contact, he also strikeouts opponents and still pitchers alot of innings. Rarely walk batters, half are probably intentional orderd by the coach! He hates people getting on base period.

Better yet, he has such a strong influence on the young pitchers down in the minors. Who you always see working out along side the Doc, copying his techniques and workouts, in spring training. Even among his peers, where as the ace of the LA Angels, Lackey, would stand by to watch Roy in his pre-game workout session before they both start and speaks of him as a top 3 pitcher in all of baseball. Look at the young ace of the Seattle Mariners, Herendez, pitching stance is very similar to that of Roy Halladay.
Just look at the pitching statistics of Toronto the past two years, the best. All youngsters.

Give the best hitters in all of the majors 570+ At Bats against Roy and what would their overall stats be? Avg? BB? etc. Or put you're so called "untouchable" hitting prospects up against him. He'll embarrass them.

He's so competitive, after a loss, his wife mentions that he's tense and quiet at the dinner table. So angry with himself she could barely talk to him. This guy's all heart and no bullshit.

Roy nevered complain or whined once about money, teammates, coaching staff, etc. This is a true professional and to me is underpaid. All he wants to do is win.

Donated 500,000 to charity after the team renewed his contract. Now that's a real role model.

If Roy Halladay was to be traded, the attendance in Toronto would be brutal just like the Florida Marlins.

This guy deserves more respect. And more of that compare to these "untouchable" minor leaguers/prospects. Where are all the top 100, 50, 25 hpyed minor leaguers in each of the past 10 years? Still developing? How old are they now? Still in the minors? Just doing okay in the majors?
On the bench? Most just fizzle out. Not many make it to the big league and become superstars.

For example: Toronto's very own OF Alex Rios was ranked #1 prospect in America, in w/e year. And was being compared to A-ROD at the time. Now he's 29, overpaid, and under-performing and still no break out year. Still valuable yet, for some reaosn, due to his potential. Bullshit!

So screw all that hyped gossip on these "untouchable" minor leaguers and prospects, most of them are at the age where they should already be in the majors and in their prime. If you wanted the Doc really bad, you'll give up a superstar and plus top class A prospect"s".

Doc Halladay gives you results. He is the most efficient pitcher around. He has the consistency, the stamina, power, the stuff and is a true professional. This is a guy who you want to build a team around.

He is the untouchable of the majors.