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Rosenthal's Latest: Atkins, Rolen, Rios, Davis

By Drew Silva [July 8, 2009 at 5:29pm CST]

FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal has a fresh column up. Let's dive in and explore some of the juicier details...

The Red Sox and Rockies have discussed a Garrett Atkins swap, but "both teams continue to explore other options." It sounds like Boston may have sent the Rox a feeler, trying to gauge the third baseman's price tag.
Along with ace Roy Halladay, the Blue Jays are also taking offers for outfielder Alex Rios and third baseman Scott Rolen. They both carry hefty contracts, however, so deals could be tricky.
The Diamondbacks are seeking first-to-second round talent for Doug Davis, "which is what they will receive if they offer him arbitration and he departs as a free agent," notes Rosenthal. The Brewers have shown mild interest.
The Rockies currently consider Ryan Spilborghs, who's hitting .351 in the month of July, too valuable to trade.

Comments

The team that could really use Rolen the most would definitely be the Cardinals, but that will obviously never happen. It'd be pretty nice to see Rolen back in STL, but La Russa burned that bridge. The Red Sox could also use him, but I doubt Ricciardi will trade within the division.

I'm not sure what the Jays will get for Rios or where Rios would fit in. It's slowly becoming apparent that Rios isn't quite turning out be the bonafide 5-tool player that he's been hyped up to be. He's still young though, so maybe someone out there will take their chance and try to bring out his full potential.

The cardinals should look into Doug Davis. He's very affordable financially, but I'm not sure what it would take, prospect-wise, to get the deal done. He'd be a nice addition to back end of the rotation, that's for sure.

Posted by: BKuGotIt | July 08, 2009 at 05:35 PM

Rios would be a good fit for the Giants. His contract might keep them from having to give up any of their "untouchables."

Posted by: wildabeast4 | July 08, 2009 at 05:39 PM

The White Sox need to go after Alex Rios. He is signed through 2015 for 12 million a year. Hitting in the Cell will up Rios power numbers, his speed will stay the same. I'd hit Rios 2 and Slide Alexei to 7 or might go the unconventional route and put Alexei at 1.

Posted by: Tough | July 08, 2009 at 05:40 PM

Good call, and if I remember correctly, the Giants should have no problem taking on his entire contract. He'd definitely help that offense.

Posted by: BKuGotIt | July 08, 2009 at 05:42 PM

If I recall, the Giants and Blue Jays were discussing a Tim Lincecum for Alex Rios deal before the 2008 season began. Obviously that will not happen but maybe the two teams can match up on a different deal involving Rios which would greatly increase the Giants wild-card chances.

Posted by: metfan57 | July 08, 2009 at 05:43 PM

How is Doug Davis worth first round talent

Posted by: TheCrewOfBrew | July 08, 2009 at 05:44 PM

I will stay with the Braves should go after Rios. Best option they have right now.

Posted by: insomniac | July 08, 2009 at 05:47 PM

I thought the Jays were not in rebuild mode.

Posted by: 661dodgerblue | July 08, 2009 at 05:49 PM

Braves should trade Vazquez for prospects and then use the free payroll and trade for Rios.

Posted by: HTF | July 08, 2009 at 05:50 PM

I would enjoy the mets trading beltran to toronto for rios and some

Maybe some of their pitchers to even out the value

Posted by: beastOftheEast | July 08, 2009 at 05:51 PM

I don't see how trading Rolen makes sense. He's worth his contract and the Jays don't have anyone knocking on the door.

Posted by: Torgen | July 08, 2009 at 05:51 PM

Doug davis is worth that because of free agent compension

Posted by: beastOftheEast | July 08, 2009 at 05:53 PM

"If I recall, the Giants and Blue Jays were discussing a Tim Lincecum for Alex Rios deal before the 2008 season began."

How good would that have been for the Jays...

"I would enjoy the mets trading beltran to toronto for rios and some "

You know, Jays are trading Rios so they can have more money freed up...

Posted by: Jaybird | July 08, 2009 at 05:54 PM

Lowe, Schafer, Francoeur, and Gonzo for Halladay and Rios.

I don't know the contract situations so excuse me if it's not fiscally possible for either team, but I think that's pretty fair if you ask me.

Posted by: BraveNewWorld | July 08, 2009 at 06:02 PM

Posted by: PWHjort | July 08, 2009 at 06:03 PM

But beltran is no bum

Beltran for rios hill and cecil

Posted by: beastOftheEast | July 08, 2009 at 06:05 PM

No way that is fair for the blue jays

Posted by: beastOftheEast | July 08, 2009 at 06:08 PM

Doug Davis is a great fit for Milwaukee. He's had his success there in the past, and he still shows signs of having success as of right now.

So what give up secound round talent. Doug Davis will be worth more to the Brewers for a year or two to come than a player that won't be ready for 3 or 4 more years.

Go big or go home.

Posted by: sabathgod | July 08, 2009 at 06:13 PM

Rolen is well worth his contract right now he's on a 24 game hitting streak and in 2nd in batting average in the AL.

Posted by: Devmac | July 08, 2009 at 06:17 PM

Not only will the Brewers make a run for Davis, but also for Halladay and a possibility of Rios or Rolen.

The Jays could take a huge dent out of their payroll by dealing the Brewers a trade for Halladay and Rios in return for Escobar/Gamel, Hart/Hardy and Manny Para.

With the Jays deeply in need of a solid every day shortstop, this could be a great way to pick up some prospects and fill in their holes.

Posted by: sabathgod | July 08, 2009 at 06:27 PM

any combination of these would still not be enough to aquire both halladay and rios

Posted by: Baseball@Europe | July 08, 2009 at 06:29 PM

Lowe, Schafer, Francoeur, and Gonzo for Halladay and Rios.

I don't know the contract situations so excuse me if it's not fiscally possible for either team, but I think that's pretty fair if you ask me.

Just FYI Schafer is out till Sept with a broken wrist...

And is you had Hanson and Freeman the Jays might actually consider that deal. Francour has negative value, the Jays are trying to dump salary and want 2 premier MLB ready guys plus other prospects for Halladay

Posted by: laxtonto | July 08, 2009 at 06:32 PM

Lowe, Schafer, Francoeur, and Gonzo for Halladay and Rios.

I don't know the contract situations so excuse me if it's not fiscally possible for either team, but I think that's pretty fair if you ask me.

Posted by: BraveNewWorld | July 08, 2009 at 06:02 PM

Its not the contracts that would be the only problem there man. It would be the Blue Jays giving up a ton of talent compared to the Braves. Halladay alone is worth more then that. Lowe is over priced, Gonzo is only around for half a year, Frenchy sucks. So Schafer is the only good piece going to the Jays in that deal. The Braves would do well with Rios but they cant add that kind of payroll, and the Jays are only shopping him for salary reduction. And the Braves dont make sense for Halladay, unless they find a take for Lowe which wont be the Blue Jays.

Posted by: AirmanSD | July 08, 2009 at 06:34 PM

The Braves wouldn't want Rios IMO. They have McClouth and three of there four top position are OF, with Jason Heyward( #3 prospect in the game) just getting called up to AA. Then there is Cody Johnson whose numbers compare very much to an athletic Adam Dunn, man the that sounds weird. And finally they have Jordan Schaffer who has started to get his swing back at AAA the past few games. They need a guy under contract for this year and next.

Posted by: bravoboy10 | July 08, 2009 at 06:35 PM

Brew Crew needs pitching, Braves need a bat......

Brewers get Vazquez

Braves get Holliday

Athletics get pieces from both teams....similar trade to the Red Sox trading Manny last year

Posted by: turnthe2 | July 08, 2009 at 06:45 PM

vazquez is too much for 2 months of holliday

Posted by: Baseball@Europe | July 08, 2009 at 06:48 PM

baseball@europe

that is plenty for those two players, escobar is the top prospect at his position the Jays wont turn that down and Corey Hart was an all-star in 2008 and was just short in 07. Manny Para knows how to win games, he is in a sophomore slump yes. But he has has worked his way back up to the rotation throwing a few complete shut out games in the minors.

Posted by: sabathgod | July 08, 2009 at 06:53 PM

sabathgod....I mean Matt Holliday no Doc Halladay. So you mean Athletic's, right?

Posted by: turnthe2 | July 08, 2009 at 07:01 PM

my bad turnthe2, I'm talking Roy

Posted by: sabathgod | July 08, 2009 at 07:03 PM

Jays could really use a 3rd base prospect,outside of say a Halladay deal to the Phils which I think is the most likely situation. Rolen and Rios could be used to find such a player.

Ideally to me the Jays get Taylor from the Phils and then look to have a Snider, Wells, Taylor OF for the next several years.

Sadly good 3rd base prospects seem to be a rare thing these days.

Posted by: Devmac | July 08, 2009 at 07:09 PM

"Sadly good 3rd base prospects seem to be a rare thing these days."

Thats the only things the cubs have!!

Phils would be very very good in a playoff series with Halladay, Hamels and (Happ?).

As far as the Brewers go, it seems like a long shot for Halladay or Rios. Im not sure why they would take on a contract like Rios' when they have Corey Hart for very cheap. And I'm not sure that could take on BOTH Halladay and Rios moneywise, even though they have the players to do it.

Posted by: chicubs25 | July 08, 2009 at 07:23 PM

@sabathgod

i'm sorry but that's not plenty for rios AND halladay.
Escobar is the brewers' no.1 prospect. ok. but being an "allstar" doesn't mean anything. it's a people's choice award.
and knows how to win games is just a bunch of crap. it's like saying adam dunn hates baseball.

Posted by: Baseball@Europe | July 08, 2009 at 07:26 PM

Spilborghs has 2 hits in July. Nowhere near .351.

Posted by: Ken | July 08, 2009 at 08:00 PM

beastoftheeast-
you are an idiot. i know what free agent compensation is but i dont understand why its so high for Doug Davis, he is not that good

Posted by: TheCrewOfBrew | July 08, 2009 at 08:17 PM

take a look at Davis' numbers.. With some run support hed have 10 wins

Posted by: Adam | July 08, 2009 at 08:53 PM

Ok blockbuster trade idea of the night. Tighten your seatbelts folks.

Brewers get Doc from Toronto and Cody Johnson and Gonzo from Atlanta

Braves get Ryan Braun from Brewers and Rios from Toronto

Toronta gets Escobar from Brewers and Medlin, Francour, Diaz and Redding from Atlanta

What do you think?

Posted by: bravesfan3110 | July 08, 2009 at 09:32 PM

Brew crew
I said that because of what is said in the text about doug davis. Read it d1 ck head

Posted by: beastOftheEast | July 08, 2009 at 10:57 PM

Bravesfan nice idea
But I think toronto could get more

Posted by: beastOftheEast | July 08, 2009 at 10:58 PM

bravesfan3110- that is a terrible trade for the brewers and it would NEVER happen, the brewers wouldnt trade two players who will be around for awhile in the organization in braun and escobar, absolutely terrible idea, the brewers offense is struggling as is with braun hittin .330 or so

Posted by: georgie | July 09, 2009 at 12:59 AM

The Mets fan who wants to trade Beltran needs to get pimp slapped for suggesting trading the best CF in baseball.

Beltran IS the Mets OF he is the best defender on the team and his offense from CF is the reason why the Mets can(Or not can, but why they continue to)parade back up level players in the corner spots.

I'd be interested in giving up the farm to Toronto for Halladay and Rios though.

I'd also like the Mets to go after Garret Atkins to play 1B when Delgado leaves.

Mets need to build around Wright, Beltran, Reyes, Santana and K-Rod not start trading them.

Posted by: OhPityMe | July 09, 2009 at 08:20 AM

The question for the other team trading for Doug Davis is he worlth risking an arby offer at year end. He might get close to 10 Million in arby.
I doubt any team in this market would want Doug Davis on the payroll for 2010 at that price. Davis would be a fool to turn down an arby offer near 8 figures as well.
Thus Zona's demand for 1st or 2nd round talent seems a bit steep.

Posted by: AndyVanSlyke | July 09, 2009 at 11:41 AM

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