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Crasnick Polls Baseball Executives

Jerry Crasnick of ESPN.com has a fascinating piece up discussing how various baseball executives view the emerging free agent and trade market. Among those polled:

  • Of 20 executives, 11 would want Matt Holliday, nine Jason Bay if money or length of deal were not an issue. Despite Holliday being younger, better defensively and having a better career OPS, Bay's success in the pressure cooker of Boston swayed a large number of executives.
  • For John Lackey's destination, eight believe it will be the Yankees, four the Mets, three the Angels, and the Dodgers, Astros, Orioles and Brewers getting one vote apiece. One executive abstained. Prices ranged from three years, $36MM to six years, $100MM.
  • Andy Pettitte is the overwhelming choice of the Yankees' free agents to return, while one executive thinks it will be both Pettitte and Johnny Damon. Just two of twenty executives think World Series MVP Hideki Matsui will be back in The Bronx.
The entire piece is well worth your time.


Comments

3/36 for Lackey? Haha...must have been Omar Minaya, who signed Oliver Perez to that same deal last year. Fun stuff. Surprised to see the Red Sox with no votes for Lackey (not that I think he'll wind up there...).

Minaya's probably the 6/100MM guy if he paid Perez that much.

Also nice to see that there are actual major league GMs that think "succeeding in the pressure cooker of Boston" is worth huge money. Jesus.

I dont think Lackey signs with the Yankees

i dont see lackey going to the yankees he doesnt fit what they need, unless they lose pettite. Then MAYBE

A few other quotes I found interesting...

In reference to Matt Holliday: ""He's a brutal defender, and he doesn't hit the good fastball, especially inside," an American League GM said."

Holliday was 3rd in the +/- system among LF's and sixth in UZR/150, so not sure how that's "brutal"...

"A second GM agreed but said he expects no action on replay in 2010. "That speaks to a real lack of vision and leadership at the commissioner's office," he said. "

Lack of vision and leadership? Shocker...

"Wells will make $12.5 million in 2010, at which point the big-money portion of his deal will kick in. He'll make $23 million in 2011 and $21 million in each of the next three seasons."

I knew this, but wow. Just wow.

On Aroldis Chapman: ""You wonder if he's just a [radar] gun guy," a National League scout said. "The expectations are going to be so high, but he might have to be developed like he's a high school or college kid.""

Sidd Finch? I just don't know if I see this signing working out for whomever takes the plunge, especially if he's going to take a couple years to develop his secondary stuff.

Notbunnies -- it is comments like that, that baffle me as a fan. why would one pay for something as subjective as "succeeding in a pressure cooker?"

I hope the yanks give lackey that 100 mil so their 2013 payroll would already be somewhere around 110 million to 5 players, but it was probably Omar because of Lackeys "fire" and "guts" shown in the ALCS.

Please Omar just give holliday the massive deal and then look to the Bedard/Harden/Sheets trio and maybe a Garland for a 1/7 or 2/15 deal

I would take Holliday over Bay if money or length wasn't an issue everyday of the week and twice on Sundays. He's the much better player.

Matsui, Damon and Pettitte will all be back because there's no better options for the Yanks. They're not going to give Holliday a 100 M contract to add to the collection with payroll at like 180 million right now I think. Same for Bay. They're going to pay for a steep decline.

One cheap year of Matsui and Damon won't hurt. Then Austin Jackson will be ready and Carl Crawford will be in the market if he doesn't sign an extension.

Lackey on the other hand is an awful prediction that doesn't even need explaining. The only reaosn people said that in the first place because they see Yankees rotation and automatically assume they're going to get the best. Worst prediction this year.

I hope the yanks give lackey that 100 mil so their 2013 payroll would already be somewhere around 110 million to 5 players, but it was probably Omar because of Lackeys "fire" and "guts" shown in the ALCS.
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Too bad there's like a 0.01 percent chance of that happening.

whould luv 2 see lackey with tha astros,but draton isnt going to pull the trigger

"He's a brutal defender, and he doesn't hit the good fastball, especially inside," an American League GM said.

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Who on Earth? Did J.P. Ricciardi or Bill Bavasi sneak into this survey somehow?

Dayton Moore? We all know DM wouldn't know what good defense was if it sneaked up on him and bit him.

if Lackey signs with the Yankees, they should just give them the WS trophy again and create a new one for the rest of MLB to play for

lackey is such a terrible fit for the yankees its unbelievable

I don't want the Yanks to sign Lackey. I don't like his attitude and I don't think he is a fit with the Yanks.

"Of 20 executives, 11 would want Matt Holliday, nine Jason Bay if money or length of deal were not an issue."

-Commissioner of Marty Barrett's Bastards of the Yahoo private leagues

baseball09
when ever he give up a run, someone makes an error, or anything not perfect he freaks out. thats why he's a bad fit

when ever he give up a run, someone makes an error, or anything not perfect he freaks out. thats why he's a bad fit

IF that were true, his stats would look a lot different.

Did you watch every Lackey start this year? Last year? The last 6 years? if not, try to use the stats as your guide.

Lackey doesn't fit just because he'd get a big contract. Yanks can't take on anymore. To think his teammates don't like his passion is crazy. It isn't like he insults them, he just wants to win. He shows that.

lol at Yankee fans saying they dont like Lackeys attitude. i forgot how much yanks and their fans were such gentlemen lackeys not going to the NL he hates to hit and would be pissed off half the time being taken out of the game cuz they had to pinch hit for him I look for him to sign with the Rangers if they give him a competitive offer otherwise it will be between the yankersand Angels

"when ever he give up a run, someone makes an error, or anything not perfect he freaks out. thats why he's a bad fit"

Yeah, what's he gonna pull next? Blame the team's starting catcher for the days he gets the crap kicked out of him?

Oh, wait...

Lackey is a bad idea because they don't need him and they already have enough long, big contracts. They went wild last year specifically because of how weak this year's FA class is. The rotation is set and they're aiming at cheap backups like Gaudin and Mitre for now.

i havent watched every game he's pitched, but of the ones i've seen thats how i see him, and that's another reason why he's not a good fit.

IF that were true, his stats would look a lot different.

how would that make his stats look different?

"i havent watched every game he's pitched, but of the ones i've seen thats how i see him, and that's another reason why he's not a good fit."

This sentence is beyond comprehension.

Im sorry but the way the Yankees fans are describing Lackey and saying why they wouldn't want him on their team, they have pretty much described AJ Burnett exactly.

i dont like either of them, Aj or Lackey.

#1 let blowsox get that chapman guy he's a high risk neway and yankees need to leave lackey alone but they probally will sign him cause their gonna compete with what boston does n boston looks like their on a serious mission betweeen gettin chapman and we all know their gonna try 2 trade for halladay
could u freakin imagine their rotation
1.halladay
2.beckett
3.lester
4.matsuzaka
5.bucholtz/wakefield
thats a stackd pitching depth chart YANKEES need to make a move the problem with players is when they know the yankees r interested they see $$$ signs not yankees fault it's the players and agents

I dont think the Yankees will make major moves just to match the Red Sox. The Yankees will only make these moves if they think it will better their ballclub, the same with the Red Sox. Did the Red Sox make major moves last offseason to counter the Yankees moves? No, and the Yankees aren't going to make major moves just to counter any moves by the Red Sox.

Yanks have no faith in joba nor phil in there rotation. Lackey will be a yankee for these simple reasons:

1) 2011 crop of pitchers look like crap! Other than ROY (which i don't think he will be available) there isn;t anyone else. And if you think boston will let beckett go then ur dreaming!

2) There farm system stinks in terms of pitchers so they wouldnt b going there for help

3) Even if pettitte does come back he only wants to pitch a year so, there will be money coming off the books then.

4) I understand everyone is worried about the financial aspects of the yanks and how they cant by anyone. But think about this.. do you honestly think the yanks can pull another 3 man rotation in the playoffs next year? do you honestly think phill hughes can be that number 3 guy??

P.S: Dont bring up wang cause i dont by in him coming back like he once was. and besides he is only a year younger than lackey anyway.

Lackey is a bull dog and a legitimate #1 starter. Who wants the ball in high pressure situations.. Come on yankee fans, other than this year in the playoffs, he own us in previous years. I say we take a chance and sign him for a 4 or 5 yr deal.

By the way guys, ROY did say he'll waive his no-trade clause to go to the red sox. Now Hypothetically speaking if he did go to the sox, how would we be able to counter that?

"By the way guys, ROY did say he'll waive his no-trade clause to go to the red sox. Now Hypothetically speaking if he did go to the sox, how would we be able to counter that?"

As I stated above earlier I don't think they will make a move just to make a move. I think they will sign Lackey but just for the same reason you think the Yankees should sign him. He gives them a solid #2 pitcher and a solid competitor.

the yankees need someone, but i dont think it needs to be a big name. Jon garland is good because he's a number 4. Hughes and joba should compete for the numer 5 during spring training. Garland had an era lower than burnetts. he also pitched over 200 innings. in the bullpen you have gaudin, mitre is in the minors, and wang should be ready too. If petite doesnt come back, then you have a problem, and thats the only reason they should sign lackey.
sabathia
burnett
pettitte
garland
hughes/joba

GARLAND r u serious.. he gives you innings but he also gives up runs. His career ERA is 4.41 compared to lackey'ss 3.81 doesnt even come close. Also Lackey was voted #3 in the CY Young award in 2007. Garland never was even a top 10 in any year of his career

garland is inexpensive, he eats up innings, and you dont need the players to win. melky, garnder, swisher. When the yankees had the team made up of all all stars, a couple years ago, they never got out of the first round of the playoffs. the first year they stick with more role players they win the world series.

*Checked that he came 5th in 2005

If you want to argue a case for Lackey in 2005, he sure did have pretty good numbers that season as well.

Garland: 18/10 3.50 221 IP 1.17 WHIP 115 SO.

Lackey: 14/5 3.44 209 IP 1.33 WHIP 199 SO.

garland is inexpensive, he eats up innings, and you dont need the players to win. melky, garnder, swisher. When the yankees had the team made up of all all stars, a couple years ago, they never got out of the first round of the playoffs. the first year they stick with more role players they win the world series.

Posted by: yanksrdashit | November 09, 2009 at 08:21 PM

Just look what your saying. WE lost cause we relied on the HR and not pitching. This guy is an ACE

in my opinion better numbers. You dont need the best players in the world. the yankees just won the world series, they're the best team in baseball. now unless someone makes a huge trade, or a big change, the yankees should keep as much the same as they can. if they lost pettite it would make sense for them to get lackey.

Im not asking for them to get ALL the best players. But you have to look at this few yrs down the road. After pettite is gone who will take over the #3 role. Do you honestly believe hughes has the pedigree to be that person? Joba in the end will be riveras succeors. until then he will b in the pen. As for wang he will be let go. And once again he is only two yrs younger but is coming back from back to back injury plagued season

9 chose Jason Bay over Holliday, independent of contract? Who are these 9 GMs who sound like they'd value an invisible measure of grit over defense? Who?

matt cain, cliff lee, and roy halladay are all free agents after the 2010 season. also, keep in mind that that's going to be 2 years from now. hughes would have had 2 years to mature and start to see his potential.

Clif lee will be signing an extension with the phillies soon. So scratch him out of it, also he has a career 3.97 era and the same age as Lackey, so I dont know where your going with that. I did say ROY is the only one good to come off that year (its one year not two) but by then he will be turning 35 with right now 2046.2 IP (thats not even counting next years). How many more innings do you think he has left in that arm?

As for Cain, well i wouldnt be suprise if they get him as well. Since pettite might be gone.

Lackey BTW has only 1501 IP and a year younger than ROY. Now im not saying he's better than ROY just saying as of right now LAckey sounds like a good bet. As for Hughes in a year or so maybe he can be a good pitcher. But be realistic which last pitcher out of the yankees farm hand was a legitimate ace. I'll wait....

Yankees believe it or not IS competing with redsox jus look at M.TEX everybody thought the FREAKIN sox were gonna get him i mean ppl knew nyy were in the mix but it was a shockerthey did the deal under the table and the sox never knew about it

cain would be a good fit he would still be under 30. clif lee really hasnt turned into a good pitcher except for the past 2 years. so taking his career isn't really fair. as for joba in the bullpen i do think he belongs there, but you have to give him the benefit of the doubt. he's 24, has a good fastball, good slider, and he's less than average everywhere else. He also lacks the ability to throw the third strike. He tries to make the perfect pitch when it's 0-2, instead of just doing what he was doing up to that point. There's alot of young pitchers like that, he'll get at least this coming year to start again.

Here'a question to redsox fans
Who would u rather trade for cause u knoow prospects are definetly going in either trade?
1.adrian Gonzalez
2.doc Halladay

probably pettite in his prime i guess i honestly cant name one.

do you count rivera? best reliever of all time.

2010 Yanks
Jeter- SS
Damon- LF
Tex- 1B
Arod- 3B
Nady- RF
Posada- C
Blalock- DH
Cano- 2B
Gardner- CF

C.C
Lackey
A.J
Wang
Gaudin/Joba/Hughes

Mo
Joba
Hughes
Marte
Betancourt
Aceves
Robertson

Swisher
Pena
Melky
Montero

where is everyone getting blalock from? and montero isn't playing in the bigs next year. but austin jackson might be

YANKEES 2010 ROSTER

1.cc
2.Lackey
3.aj
4.andy
5.joba/hughes/wang

1B TEX
2ND cano
3rd arod
ss jeter
c posada
backup c olivo
LF.damon
cf.melkman
RF.Nady
bench. matsui (pinch hitter)util derosa 1b/of swisher, gardner(pinchrunner) not 100% sure but gotta check free agency again on finalization

the yanks, mets, and sox fans all need to quit crying cuz lackey will be a brewer next year.

I just don't see Lackey or any "big name" free agents from this class becoming Yankees. I really don't think the Yankees will be making a big splash this off-season. Cashman already said he will take this offseason "slowly and cautiously." I see them resigning Pettitte and Damon, and maybe getting a veteran back of the rotation arm for depth. I don't think Wang is coming back until mid-season.

"YANKEES 2010 ROSTER

1.cc
2.Lackey
3.aj
4.andy
5.joba/hughes/wang

1B TEX
2ND cano
3rd arod
ss jeter
c posada
backup c olivo
LF.damon
cf.melkman
RF.Nady
bench. matsui (pinch hitter)util derosa 1b/of swisher, gardner(pinchrunner) not 100% sure but gotta check free agency again on finalization"

So Derosa and Matsui are going to pass up offers to start for other teams to sit on the Yankees bench? Matsui might consider it but why on earth would Derosa? Nick Swisher hit 29 home runs this year and drove in 82 runs but your going to sit him for someone who played in only 7 games this year? Im sorry but neither of those are going to happen.

"Here'a question to redsox fans
Who would u rather trade for cause u knoow prospects are definetly going in either trade?
1.adrian Gonzalez
2.doc Halladay"

It depends on the price tag. I assume that the Padres would ask for more for two years of Adrian at a very low price rather than one year of Halladay at a modestly low price.

For the same price, I'd go with Adrian, but so many of these trades are overrated. Halladay is basically a $20M SP that you're getting for $16M or so. Over the past three years, he's averaged 17-8 with a 3.28 against Lackey's 15-8 with a 3.40. Halladay is better, and one year represents a much lower risk, but the talent difference might not be material, and imho, not worth giving up the farm.

It would be huge if the Orioles could sign John Lackey. The O's would have a strong rotation for the first time in over a decade.

- John Lackey
- Jeremy Guthrie
- Brad Bergesen
- Brian Matusz
- Chris Tillman

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