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Odds & Ends: Gonzalez, Halladay, Rangers

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I'm surprised that Frank Wren wasn't in the top ten of GMs. He rebuilt the entire starting pitching rotation into one of the best in baseball in only one offseason.

The Braves are basically in a rebuilding phase yet the team was actually contending for the playoffs until the last week of the season - largely due to the moves made by Frank Wren. And he doesn't have much room for error like the Brian Cashman's of the MLB world.

Would this work?

Cubs get Halladay, Wells
Blue Jays get Bradley, Fontenot, Marshall, Fox, Colvin, Soto

come on Mike
"their" are ten teams?

"T.R. Sullivan of MLB.com writes that the Rangers have plenty of trade fodder thanks to their pitching, and they may be willing to deal someone like Brandon McCarthy."

Ranger fans can only hope he is wearing a different uniform next year, he is about as fragile as they come and I dont want him taking up a spot in the rotation with our youngsters coming up. Rangers just need to take what they can get for him and admit to their spanking they took from ken williams in that deal.

That being said, I'm a little suprised to see Jon Daniels not make the top ten GM's.

Bah, thanks Jaybird.

Thanks for contributing to the site Jaybird! lol who gives a crap?

anyway that article about Doc was horrible. Had nothing to offer and seemed it was written with little knowledge of the teams.

like cubs? anyone really think their making a play for Halladay? Rangers...aren't they still broke? and didn't Doc already say he would decline a trade there?

Pleasse pay no mind to Toronto Star writer Dick Griffin. He's widely ridiculed by anyone with a functioning brain.

@stlcards

Poor grammar just makes this site look second rate. At this point, MLB Trade Rumors is a known quantity, and they should be on the lookout for mistakes like that.

It is taking me an average of 3 "refreshes" to get past the dead gray screen or the partial content page. If anybody cares.

Fangraphs, whether it is based on performance or not has Ben Zobriest as having more value than Albert P, and JD Drew is identified over 20 mil.

No amount of stat speak can justify those assertions.

I agree on the refresh rate.

I'm tired of debating the worthlessness of Jonny boy Daniels with the Ranger sheep, but it's good to see someone like Davidoff exclude him from his top 10.

Daniels has built something interesting, but we need to see that core actually develop into a playoff caliber team before you can look the other way on the A-Gon trade, the Danks trade, and the Young extension.

I think Andy MacPhail has some claim to the list though. He's got the Orioles looking like a promising organization, which seemed impossible not long ago.

Davidoffs article is awesome. Just take a look at how many "west coast" teams had a GM listed? One. And he's the GM of a team that finished 22 games out of 1st place. Forget the fact that the Dodgers and Angels were 2 of the best teams this year with the Giants making big strides forward as well.

Quick question - name the GM who has led his team to back to back divisional titles and 197 wins over the past 2 seasons. This GM got his teams to within a few runs of the WS. This GM signed arguably the best FA value of the 08/09 off-season. This GM accomplished all that while spending about $90m less than the Yankees.

But yeah - go ahead and put Epstein and Cashman ahead of him. Heck - it's not even ahead of him. The guy is not mentioned anywhere and yet there Davidoff goes gushing about Cash and Epstein.

Tell me again why KW is on the list? He spends as much as Reagins. He hasn't produced like Reagins. He isn't in as good of a position to produce in '10 as Reagins. Yet he makes the cut?

Yeah, Beane as the top GM is a joke. Didn't even speak of his "big" acquisition of Scott Hairston. Also, it is hard to see why Davidoff seems to favor the A's in his trades this season when he acquired a few unknown commodities for Holliday and Cabrera. If Beane was being ranked as the top minor league GM, maybe I see the point. But as of right now, Beane is depending on a bunch of guys that don't quiet look ready to dominate the big leagues (Anderson, Cahill, Barton, Sweeny), or playing guys who will never be above avg (Hairston, Rajai, Cust, Suzuki)

Beane will forever have his fanboys bc of that bestseller Moneyball. Looking back at Beane's dream draft in 2002 from Moneyball is pretty hilarious. For my money, Davidoff would have been better off replacing Beane for one of his trading partners in StL, Minn or SD.

"Looking back at Beane's dream draft in 2002 from Moneyball is pretty hilarious."

Joe Blanton pitched very well for the A's, then netted them a couple of top prospects in trade. Ditto Nick Swisher. Teahen netted them Dotel, who at the time was a top closer.

The book is about value. He got great value from that draft.

Yeah, I agree Beane did score some with some safe picks in the 1st round, which is definitely not a given in the MLB draft. But looking at the "value" to be had with the riskier picks out of HS would have given the A's much greater "value".

I know it is bad form to critique someone's job after the fact (but I will anyway). Just look at the value also available in the first round that year, together with Beane's comments in Moneyball (for instance Swisher was picked just ahead of Hamels and Cain; Beane also thought it was foolish to pick BJ Upton or Kazmir bc of difficulty of projecting HS players).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moneyball

Too many teams were enthralled with the idea of safe picks in the MLB draft, so small market clubs like SD began wasting all their picks on safe college guys who might make the MLB. Only last draft, did SD realize that this was foolish and began to try once again to project the higher upside available in HS players. In my opinion, the only hope for small market clubs is scoring with the bigger payoff by drafting from the HS ranks (although this is certainly a riskier venture, but not impossible as Beane seems to suggest from his picks).

wow, that was awful grammar in that last post. just woke up, but i promise to grammar check more in the future.

For those who read this, I recently downloaded the new firefox and MLBTR has been much, much better for me than it was with IE.

Mets Give:
Tejada
Maine
Neisse
Holt
Evans

Thats the shortstop (Tejada), the middle rotation (Maine/Neisse), the top pitching prospect (Holt), and a 1B/OF with some potential (Evans).

Thats what the Jays are asking for right?

Thoughts on this?

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