Yankees May Let Chien-Ming Wang Leave

When you have a mega payroll and starting pitcher depth issues how could you not take a risk of your old nineteen game winner and past ace. I just can't believe this.

Joey. relax .. we won a championship without him. let him go. We have an Ace in CC.

Sign Lackey and call it a day

This is a stupid decision if this is what they do. You can never have too much pitching. I hope they bring him back.

Besides that, GO GET JOHN LACKEY!!!

I agree JOEYB33, if Wang is willing to take an incentive laden deal he is a low risk high reward pitcher. In 2006 and 2007 when he won 19 games he had ERAs of 3.63 and 3.70. You can't say that about too many guys who can put up an ERA under 4. I hope the Yankees don't turn their back on a guy who turned out to be quality young pitcher when they were in serious need of a youth infusion.

"Joey. relax .. we won a championship without him. let him go. We have an Ace in CC."

This is also the same NYY team that ran out of pitchers during 2008.. A team can NEVER have enough rotational depth, only after it happens (Boston 2006) does it sink in to smart gm's.

Fans that understand the game and imagine the bulk of NYY fans that understand the game and how it is played will not be in agreement with you on Wang.

signing CMW to a minor league deal with incentives and an option is the best move here. anything else doesn't make much sense. i agree to non-tender him, clear the 40 man spot... but allowing him to rehab with the club and possibly produce is a wise decision.

The Yanks are idiots if they let a couple of million stand in the way of bringing Wang back. I can't see a 2/3 mil deal with incentives that can bring it back up being a hinderance or problem for the Yanks. Idiots if they pass. I guess Wang isn't "family" enough for them to take care of?

I just wouldn't want to let a couple million dollars make us give up on a proven sucessful pitcher in the AL east. I'd like to give him one last chance.

the yankees are infatuated with missing bats which is what Wang does not do.

if this is true maybe they want to throw their dollars at other health risk pitchers instead of Wang. Sheets and Harden are both out there.

Why does a Yankee hater always have to interrupt a good discussion and complain about Yankee spending and how baseball is ruined. Please talk about Wang (the chien Ming one)

this is probably a good thing for wang, getting out of the al east and go to a lesser talented division and prove his health and show if he still can be a good pitcher. yanks will be fine without him.

I have re-thought my plan for the Yankees future. Originally I was hoping to drop Damon and Matsui for Holliday and Figgins with Holliday moving to Rightfield and Swisher becoming the DH. Really a much better plan of action would be to re-sign Damon and Matsui to 1 year deals. If Damon wants more years, let him walk and sign someone like Mike Cameron to a 1 year deal. Then this offseason do whatever it takes to trade for Felix Hernandez of the Mariners. I know they said that he is their property but soon enough they will realize that they will not be able to sign him to an extension. I understand that it will take a lot to entice the Mariners to trade King Felix. So I think the following trade will be sufficient:

Felix Hernandez for Phil Hughes, Jesus Montero, Juan Miranda, Melky Cabrera and another AAA class pitching prospect.

That trade fills a lot of the Mariners holes and I don't think they would pass that up. Then in 2 years when King Felix's contract is up, sign him to something like 10 years, $200 million. Keep in mind he's only 23 now..

The next step in this plan is simple. You might be asking what to do with Catcher if we trade Montero. Well first off Montero probably won't stay behind the plate given his size. And secondly the answer my friend is Joe Mauer. He will be 27 and a free agent after next year and I don't believe he wil be able to pass up 10 years $200, which is what the Yankees can offer him and the what the Twins can not come close too. With his signing comes Posada becoming a 6 day DH before retiring. Also after next year the Yankees sign Carl Crawford to play Left Field after who plays their this year's 1 year deal expires.

I know this is just wishful thinking but doesn't anyone get the feeling that this may be Brian Cashman's long term plan or at least some what of his plan after all. Imagine a 2011 team as follows:

Lineup:
SS Jeter
LF Crawford
1B Teixeira
3B Arod
C Mauer
DH Posada
RF Swisher
2B Cano
CF Jackson

Rotation:
RHP Hernandez
LHP Sabathia
RHP Burnett
LHP Pettite (year to year)
RHP Prospect?

to joeyb

"Why does a Yankee hater always have to interrupt a good discussion and complain about Yankee spending and how baseball is ruined."

When someone calls the Yankee front office one of the best in the bigs they deserve that comment. They are nowhere close to being one of the best. This being a prime example.

Lineup:
SS Jeter
LF Crawford
1B Teixeira
3B Arod
C Mauer
DH Posada
RF Swisher
2B Cano
CF Jackson
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lol.... posada DH? lol

jeter still running and everyday SS in 2 years?

swisher still being around and not a fluke? lol....

and yeah, just take the best and most expensive FAs of 2011. Yup....

and i thought my adrian gonzalez to whitesox idea was crazy.....

You guys are NUTS if you think JOE MAUER is gonna be a part of the Yankees anytime soon. He's gonna get a 5-6 year deal at 25+ a year from MINNESOTA. You must really think the twins front office is stupid or something to let the games best player leave via free agency.

The only reason they let Johan go is because they have a handle on Pitcher Devolopment and believe in thier ability to produce new ace pitchers in the years to come. Remember Johan came out of NOWHERE and blossomed under the twins care. As for paying position players? They have a history of paying guys worth paying. IE Kirby Puckett was given the richest contract in baseball at the time to stay in Minnesota. Don't kid yourselves and stop salivating over the 2009 MVP and AL BATTING CHAMP!!

They should let Wang go, yanks fan would you want him EVER taking up a starting spot after the putrid effort he gave last season?? So if he's never gonna play why waste the money?? The yanks front office know this and that's why they are cutting him loose. I really don't think very many teams will be lining up for his services either, and I know that 0 contenders will be.

Prediction: Wang will be a washington national next year or he won't be in the MLB altogether!

Pat Kelly, that's insane, joe mauer is going to be on the twins for his entire life. I think trading for Felix Hernandez is a great idea, but i think it's obvious that is on basicly every team's mind. keep montero, trade hughes or joba, and maybe romine (catcher prospect), and another prospect. Then maybe you get lucky.

Welcome to the Atlanta Braves (if he leaves).

be a man, and end it... I hate when people hide behind their computer and fight with people online when in real life they wouldn't say a word because they know if they did they would surely get their behinds wooped.

Now please everyone, back to CMW.

To be fair, the Yankees are run well. Yeah, they have a lot of money, big deal. They use it well. Whether they spend a lot of money or not, they have gotten much better at developing talent through the draft and bringing them up through the system, and yeah, they have a ton of money, but they use what they have.

I don't know if I would call them the best front office in baseball, but they are pretty good.

See it's hard to respect peoples comments when they make them in a disrespectful manner. Taking those sly hits at our softball field and old players. I do believe Derek jeter won a gold glove by the way.

Posted by: JOEYB33 | November 11, 2009 at 01:07 PM

The gold glove is not really what I would use to make a case for Jeter as a good SS. Didn't Rafael Palmiero win it one year playing less than 30 games at first base. Most of the voters don't know who to vote for and wind up voting for the same people year in and year out. Of course this isn't always the case, but i wouldn't base my arguement on the GG

Sign Felix? Why not just scrap health reform and spend the $1.2 trillion on yet another guy who doesn't respect the game enough to wear his cap on straight.

aceves is staying in the pen. I think the yanks are gona sign a small FA pitcher, like jon garland. Most likely only one of hughes or joba will be in the rotation, and they'll just play for the number 5 spot in spring training.

Pat Kelly:
Felix Hernandez for
Phil Hughes (Set up reliever, and a good one last season, but relievers are notoriously volatile.)
Jesus Montero (Interesting prospect, but probably not a career catcher. Hit well in a half season at AA at age 19, so may hit enough to move to 1B/DH.)
Juan Miranda (Upgrade over Mike Carp? Older and more expensive, but any better?)
Melky Cabrera (Not a starter in Seattle. Upgrade over Ryan Langerhans, but much more expensive.)
and another AAA class pitching prospect.
25 & under (2010 ages) pitchers at S/W-B:
Ivan Nova
Cory Arbiso
George Kontos
Anthony Claggett
Ian Kennedy
Jay Stephens
David Robertson
Luke Prihoda
Mark Melancon
Michael Dunn
Anything there that you think would interest anyone?

So a reliever, a catching prospect, two bench guys who really don't help much but cost more than the players they would replace, and David Robertson? Ian Kennedy did throw almost 25 good innings last season.
Really?

Back on topic: Non-tender Wang and offer him a MiLB/NRI for $1M with another $4M in IP/GS incentives, like Mark Prior's 2008 contract with SD. Hope for a better outcome.

Felix Hernandez for the package mentioned by Pat Kelly is obviously no going to happen. To me it would make more sense for them trading for Doc Halladay. I'd give away Joba AND Hughes for him any day.