LaRoche Turns Down Giants’ Offer

ESPN's Buster Olney reports (via Twitter) that Adam LaRoche turned down a two-year, $17MM deal from San Francisco, and now the Giants may have pulled their offer back altogether.  LaRoche has been mentioned as a possible target for the Giants this winter and would certainly fill their need for a left-handed hitter, but as Olney notes in a follow-up tweet, San Francisco is "discussing alternatives" to signing the first baseman. 

The Giants' stance could also be a negotiating tactic to get LaRoche to drop his asking price given that, as Olney pointed out, LaRoche seems to be down to just the Giants and Orioles as potential suitors.  (The Mariners were scratched from the list given their acquisition of Casey Kotchman.)


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121 Comments on "LaRoche Turns Down Giants’ Offer"


Dexter_Morgan
5 years 6 months ago

DUMB… should have taken that deal

Infield Fly
5 years 6 months ago

He may reconsider in time. It’s not like teams are banging down his door, and I’d be surprised to see the O’s outbid the Giants.

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

The O’s have left over Matt Holliday money. I think they are not done spending to say the least.

Infield Fly
5 years 6 months ago

Well, that is true for sure but at least one thing the O’s have often works against them…Peter Angelos! 😉 Good luck!

johnsilver
5 years 6 months ago

Agree. 17M is it for him. Anybody that gives him more is wacko and seeing that both Hendry and Minaya are already out of big cash.. His prospects are pretty slim..

Mule
5 years 6 months ago

I agree that 8-9MM is as most as he can get per year, but only 2 years? I would think he’d be worth 3 plus an easy vesting year. He’s been worth around 9MM in WAR terms the last 4 years, and at 30 hes not exactly on his last legs. I wonder if the Mets might show interest, perhaps after the address the starting pitching situation.

5 years 6 months ago

I think that the Giants believe that they have cheaper options – namely Brett Pill – coming up through the minors. Giants haven’t signed anybody to more than a two-year deal since the start of last offseason, with Crawford, Neal, Kieschnick, Pill, Posey, and Bumgarner all at various stages of development.

Admittedly, Pill is a R/R 1B, but I suspect he’s starting to figure into the Giants’ long term plans, given they had Meulens work with him earlier this offseason.

Ian_Smell
5 years 6 months ago

That might be the best deal this guy gets. He’s crazy if he thinks he can get a three year contract.

5 years 6 months ago

They got 17mil to throw around? Why not get Damon for 2/16MM, and Cust for about 2MM. Good hitting outfield and solid infield. Good leadoff guy and good/cheap RF that can bat in front of or behind Panda. Not a bad lineup from top to bottom with these 2. Do it Sabean!

pablosfullofposeys
5 years 6 months ago

Your really think Damon is a better option than Laroche? His BA fell off 20 points this past year, his stolen bases were cut by more than half, and his HR total benefitted from the hitters ballpark he is playing in. Not to mention quickly declining defense. And we wouldnt have to witness this terrible decline for just one year, but two? There’s a reason the yankees didnt resign him. Laroche is very solid defensively, and is in his prime. He is the much better option.

5 years 6 months ago

Beat me to it again. Cust and Damon are both bad defensive options. We don’t need either because we already have DeRosa to play LF. Expect the Giants to be looking for an upgrade at 1B, or maybe RF.

5 years 6 months ago

Damn, took the words right out of my mouth. But I will add this, Damon can’t play first base.

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

i think he will get more money. I really think that Adam is not only the best first baseman on the market but i think he is destined to have a big year. He would fit great on the Orioles. If the Giants did infact pull back their offer, they are doing a worse job this off-season then they were before offering him the deal. They need a big bat. They have missed so many opportunities and Mark DeRosa is not “that” bat.

5 years 6 months ago

I agree with Sabean, I would take the offer off the board. Besides the O’s and SF who really is after LaRoche? Mostly like Seattle will trade for Kotchman, The Mets don’t have the money for him, unless they pass on Pinero or SP. The Braves won’t give him a 3 year deal, so who is lefT?

5 years 6 months ago

adam freaking laroche… who does this guy think he is? laroche is a 1B that the pirates, braves, and sox dumped. Is SF $$$$ not green enough for him? He is from california. laroche is a douche bag. Why would the Giants want his lame butt anyway? He has never had 100 RBI season and a career .274 hitter. Averages 120 strikeouts a season… and the Giants offered this fool $17 million for two seasons? Who is dumber the Giants offering $17 million for an average 1B that has never sniffed the all-star game and has NO gold gloves or the laroche not taking the offer? Hey Laroche if you don’t want to play in SF just say so. What is Baltimore going to offer you a sweeter deal? Baltimore is a cellar team and won’t be the Rays, Sox, or Yanks, or even the Jays.

5 years 6 months ago

He should get at least a three at 25 or so. Laroche is a solid undervalued player. He’s in his prime years and deserves more than 17mill.

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

completely agree

pb111
5 years 6 months ago

does he know his name is “adam laroche?”

5 years 6 months ago

adam freaking laroche… who does this guy think he is? laroche is a 1B that the pirates, braves, and sox dumped. Is SF $$$$ not green enough for him? He is from california. laroche is a douche bag. Why would the Giants want his lame butt anyway? He has never had 100 RBI season and a career .274 hitter. Averages 120 strikeouts a season… and the Giants offered this fool $17 million for two seasons? Who is dumber the Giants offering $17 million for an average 1B that has never sniffed the all-star game and has NO gold gloves or the laroche not taking the offer? Hey Laroche if you don’t want to play in SF just say so. What is Baltimore going to offer you a sweeter deal? Baltimore is a cellar team and won’t beat the Rays, Sox, or Yanks, or even the Jays.

Will32
5 years 6 months ago

Bad move by LaRoche, that sounds like a great deal on his side. No matter, I’d rather have Damon for a 1 year 8.5M than LaRoche anyway.

Also a question about disqus… It doesn’t keep me logged in, whenever I click on a rumor I have to sign in again which is kinda annoying, so my question is how do I keep it from signing me out?

YanksFanSince78
5 years 6 months ago

Did you sign in to “disqus” directly or did you try to post a comment and then signed in? I had the same problem.

Will32
5 years 6 months ago

I went to disqus.com and Im logged in there but here, its really wierd. Would you mind going to detail what you did?

YanksFanSince78
5 years 6 months ago

Forget it. It just logged me out too. :(

lefty177
5 years 6 months ago

same here (disqus thing)

DickAlmighty
5 years 6 months ago

Yeah, this new system sucks. Every time you click on a new rumor (or even refresh the page you’re on), you have to re-login if you want to comment. Garbage. Way to ruin a perfectly effective system MLBTradeRumors.

atlbraves312
5 years 6 months ago

I don’t.

NL_East_Rivalry
5 years 6 months ago

Neither do I. I haven’t had to log-in since the 1st time I signed in. Maybe I have it saving my password and auto-logging in. Not sure.

5 years 6 months ago

Same here. I’m using Firefox and it’s working just fine!

5 years 6 months ago

same

Slugger23
5 years 6 months ago

same here yall might to get firefox lol

Mule
5 years 6 months ago

It works fine for me, maybe its your browser (I’m on firefox) or your internet settings?

chicubs25
5 years 6 months ago

Its internet explorer. Firefox works fine.

Slugger23
5 years 6 months ago

I dont have to log in or out i stayed log in dont know how but i do im not havin no trouble with it.. did yall get that messege they send u at yahoo?

chicubs25
5 years 6 months ago

I had the same problem with internet explorer. Firefox remembers my login now! I think I remember reading a couple times Tim saying that everything on MLBTradeRumors works better with firefox.

5 years 6 months ago

Suppose the giants will take a stab at Branyan, then? Branyan wants stability and the Giants could give it to him. LaRoche probably doesn’t want to play at AT&T because his numbers will deflate with that ballpark.

5 years 6 months ago

Branyan also hit 31 HRs in a pitcher’s ballpark last year, and is already on the West Coast. For a dark horse, he’s a pretty good option.

5 years 6 months ago

wowwww. I blame the Red Sox. Red Sox decided to give Beltre 10mill for one reason.. now Laroche feels he’s a similar player to Beltre, therefore believes he deserves “beltre-like” money.

5 years 6 months ago

Well like Yanksfan said, The LaRoche deal is better. Best case scenario for Beltre is 11mil if he opts out. Or 15mill if he stays with the Red Sox.

YanksFanSince78
5 years 6 months ago

Someone please call Adam LaRoche and remind him he is Adam LaRoche. Thanks.

YanksFanSince78
5 years 6 months ago

wowwww. I blame the Red Sox. Red Sox decided to give Beltre 10mill for one reason.. now Laroche feels he’s a similar player to Beltre, therefore believes he deserves “beltre-like” money.
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Except the deal for LaRoche is better because it’s guaranteed money and not a vesting option.

sfgiantsluver48
5 years 6 months ago

why would he turn this deal down he is not gonna get a better deal. Hes Adam laroche hes not exactly a 10 million dollar man, hes crazy.

Mule
5 years 6 months ago

FanGraphs has LaRoche worth 11MM last year, so technically you’re right… My uneducated guess is that Adam thinks he can get more years, not more money per.

sfgiantsluver48
5 years 6 months ago

this is adam laroche hes not worth 3 years 31 million, somebodys overrating themselves a littile bit

giants6406
5 years 6 months ago

are you kidding me. thats crazy money for this guy. theres no way hes worth that. c’mon sabean. thats by far the worst news i heard all day. lets just hope they pulled that offer off the table.

Slugger23
5 years 6 months ago

They did. and i like Laroche but he aint worth that much lol…

angryredmenace
5 years 6 months ago

Adam LaRoche will regret not taking this deal.

55saveslives
5 years 6 months ago

All right Laroche…you had your chance! NOBODY will offer you more!!!

5 years 6 months ago

You gotta wonder if he doesn’t have a better or comparable offer already to turn that down in this market???

55saveslives
5 years 6 months ago

Doubtful…only the O’s are in the mix.

5 years 6 months ago

So says the writer?

5 years 6 months ago

bad move by laroche….

5 years 6 months ago

Lol, Maybe so … But how has a rejecting a contract offer worked out for Damon? Or J. Bay for that matter. Loved what he did for my Sox but I wish him well playing LF in Citi Park.

pablosfullofposeys
5 years 6 months ago

Sabean has done well so far this offseason I think. He hasn’t overpaid anyone. He hasn’t locked anyone up to a long term deal. And he has made good offers to the right players. I can’t believe Laroche turned this down, but I am guessing he will come back around. With Laroche in the lineup, the giants have a great chance at making the playoffs.

DickAlmighty
5 years 6 months ago

If your definition of “doing well” is “not f*cking up,” then yes, Sabean has done well this offseason. Others might suggest that “doing well” means actually improving your team’s chances of winning the World Series. Sabean hasn’t really done that at all (signing Mark DeRosa and Juan Uribe doesn’t exactly scream World Series contender).

But, I have always maintained that Giants fans are easy to please because they have low expectations. Sabean gets a pass because he didn’t ink another Barry Zito contract… those are some low expectations.

pablosfullofposeys
5 years 6 months ago

Great.

Success this offseason is definitely measured in part by not screwing things up since we already have so much money tied into mediocre players such as zito, rowand, and renteria, and it would be a crime to continue this pattern.

Tell me this though, given the circumstances, what could sabean have done better in this offseason at this point?

5 years 6 months ago

Agreed; this is a fairly weak FA class in terms of talent, and what talent there is has been overpaid up to this point, particularly pitching. Sabean is right to be bargain shopping and biding his time for a better deal, which is exactly what he will get if the O’s don’t snap up LaRoche.

Dan Wohl
5 years 6 months ago

I don’t blame Sabean for not overpaying for free agents. What I do blame him for, and the way I think he could have done better this offseason, is his total lack of skill or creativity in exploring trade possibilities. He basically made a comment earlier this offseason to the effect of “I don’t like to do trades because you have to give something up.” Basically, he’s scared to make another big trade after the Pierzynski for Nathan/Liriano catastrophe, and now the Giants are paying for it. I don’t think there’s any reason an Uggla trade shouldn’t have happened, for instance. If it takes Sanchez, fine. I think his stock will never be higher than now, after his no-hitter. Plus, a creative GM would definitely explore trade possibilities for Matt Cain this offseason, while he still has two years before free agency. Most metrics say Cain is bound to regress so he is probably at the height of his value now. (But since when has Sabean proved he is even aware that sabermetrics exist.) Also, given that the Giants have elite pitching and abhorrent hitting, and an elite pitching prospect in Madison Bumgarner, I don’t see why they wouldn’t look into how they could turn his value in hitting via trade.

pablosfullofposeys
5 years 6 months ago

Yeah, I agree very much with your logic here. The thing is, I don’t know for sure what sabean has done on the trade market, other than try to get uggla without giving up sanchez or bumgarner. I personally agree with this logic, especially if Sabean signs a guy like laroche by the end of the offseason. And I think that may be what they have been thinking the whole time. Why go and trade one of the pitchers slated for our rotation and potentially a cornerstone of our rotation for years to come, when we can just go out and sign someone of the same caliber. However, the point now is there are not really any guys of that good caliber left other than laroche. So if he misses out on him, then yes, I would agree that he didnt do a good enough job this offseason. But at the same time, whereas laroche may no longer be a free agent in a week, uggla and others will still be on the trade block and sabean can always revisit those ideas, which i think he would, if all else fails. Its a tough business, im just glad to see that he hasnt made any dumb moves yet. I think that is what makes a good GM. Never making dumb moves. With no dumb moves, guys on the team are just naturally going to pan out and turn into stars. (i.e. lincecum, cain, sandoval, wilson) So yeah, not arguing sabean is GM of decade by no means but doing a pretty good job so far this offseason.

5 years 6 months ago

It bears mentioning that if Sabean is committed to not giving up pitching in a trade right now – as well he shouldn’t, given that Bumgarner is our #5 starter for the moment – then the Giants have very little worth trading. To get a bat of worth, we’d have to give up 3-5 of our best position-player prospects and/or starters. This would mean we get some short term gain, maybe 2-3 years of solid production from a hitter, but the chances that one of those players hits their stride as they enter the best years of their career is pretty high when you give up 3-5 players under 27.

Sabean’s absolutely right: you have to give something to get something. Sadly, the only thing we have to give is the one thing that got our team 88 wins last year.

5 years 6 months ago

Actually Sabean has done a wonderful job this off season. Not only has he not overpaid for the likes of Bay or Damon. Nor has he overpaid to bring back existing players, ie, Molina.

I doubt Giant fans have low expection, they realize the team has made a few mistakes. Such the Zito contract, trading Nathan and Liriano to the twins. But most overall they realize they play in the NL West where any team can win the division.

HummBaby
5 years 6 months ago

I’m getting a little tired of various player’s lack of respect for San Francisco and lack of desire to play here. I understand the ballpark is a pitcher’s ballpark, but once they get their life changing contract, with enough money for them and 3 generations of their family to come after them, do the numbers really count that much anymore? As far as legacy and history of franchise’s go, I’d say the Giants can stand toe to toe with any other team in MLB. Even the so called “big dogs” i.e. Chicago, New York, Boston. We’re the oldest franchise, and we have more wins than any team in MLB history. That being said, I really hope its just a negotiating ploy and that the Giants land him.

5 years 6 months ago

Dude! Be thankful your not in Baltimore!
Better days are ahead for both!!!

SFGiants33
5 years 6 months ago

Giants should not get Cust cause he made many errors last season with the A’s. damon should be the guy the Giants should get. 8 mil. for 1 yr.

5 years 6 months ago

Cust hits 25+ each year, it would be a hometown discount since he plays 15 mins away from SF, and drives in atleast 70 runs a year. We will probably take him out towards the end of the game for defense after we get a lead with him driving in a few runs. Low BA, high K’s, but high BB’s and HR/RBI’s….I will take it for cheap

blackandorangepride
5 years 6 months ago

have you seen his career average? he’s a career .239 and he would be murdered with the pitching in our division and it doesn’t help that its a different league it would be like Garko except worse.

5 years 6 months ago

the giants do NOT need Damon and they really do NOT need Cust.

5 years 6 months ago

Agreed! Like I said earlier Damon can’t play first. Cust sucks and they are better off signing LaRoche (assuming he caves in) or Branyan. Maybe they could trade for Kotchman assuing Seattle doesn’t get him.

dire straits
5 years 6 months ago

LaRoche is on some kind of ego trip if he thinks he’ll get anything better.

Is he a Boras client?