Ryan Howard Signs Five-Year Extension

Phillies first baseman Ryan Howard signed a five-year, $125MM extension, according to CSN's Jim Salisbury.  The deal includes a $23MM option for 2017 with a $10MM buyout.  Howard is currently under contract through 2011, so the extension runs from 2012 through 2016.  AOL FanHouse's Ed Price tweets the yearly salaries, noting that there is a limited no-trade clause.  Hot stove junkies won't be seeing Howard join Albert Pujols, Prince Fielder, and Adrian Gonzalez in the 2012 free agent class.

Howard is in his age 30 season, so the contract begins with his age 32 season.  The length makes this an unnecessary risk, and at $25MM a year the Phillies didn't get a discount for taking the gamble and locking him up two years before free agency.  Tip of the cap to agent Casey Close, who negotiated the deal. 

Back in '08 Howard set a first-time arbitration record with a $10MM salary.  A year later he signed a three-year, $54MM extension to buy out his remaining arbitration years.  The Phillies clearly like to lock up their guys.


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139 Comments on "Ryan Howard Signs Five-Year Extension"


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04Forever
5 years 2 months ago

there goes alot of hopes and dreams for other teams

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Guest
5 years 2 months ago

No, they can still hope and dream for Jayson Werth!

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04Forever
5 years 2 months ago

Im not exactly sold Werth is in the same league of skill as Howard. Howard has been a Home Run threat every year now since he has started playing in the majors, Werth just got good over a career of sluggish so-so years. Smart move by the Phillies if this is accurate, they are signing the right guy to a longer deal

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richphillies
5 years 2 months ago

Werth has much better platoon splits, can steal bases, see a ton of pitches and draw a bunch of walks (Ryan has just 3 this year, 2 of which are intentional!), and he can play any outfield position. I think all that makes him a better player.

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04Forever
5 years 2 months ago

IF he produces on the level he did last year, sure.

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leviticus6688
5 years 2 months ago

Unnecessary to the nth degree. There’s a good chance they’ll end up regretting this when he’s 34 or 35.

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bustercherrie
5 years 2 months ago

I don’t know about that. I think the guy will be productive late into his 30’s. I wouldn’t sign him past this contract, but I think that the Phillies will be okay and I commend them for locking up Howard. Pending the dollar amount I like the deal so far, let’s see how we feel after we see the amount.

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5 years 2 months ago

This is just a ridiculous, ridiculous contract.

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leviticus6688
5 years 2 months ago

Agreed, it’s already got to be among the 8-10 worst contracts in baseball already.

On an unrelated note, you and I share the same last name.

Guest
5 years 2 months ago

how can you say this is a bad contract. we are talking about a guy who puts constantly over 45+ 140+ RBI’s?

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jwsox
5 years 2 months ago

please dont count RBI’s they have very little to do with the actual batter, RBI’s have more to do with the runners on and less with the batter RBI’s are more or a team stat, much like wins and losses for pitchers

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5 years 2 months ago

Because his real numbers show he’s generally in the 2nd tier of first basemen at best.

Pujols, Gonzalez, Teixeira, Votto, Youkilis, Fielder, and Cabrera have all been better offensively in 2008 and 2009, and he’s always been just an average defensive player.

They could have saved their money for a better 1B or used it elsewhere. Instead they’re dramatically overpaying even if he were younger.

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5 years 2 months ago

Second Tier? We are talking about a guy who has been in the top 5 of MVP voting 4 of five years and won an MVP. but i gues we shouldnt count that either? Other than Pujols he is best pure power hitter in the game. what real numbers are you guys talking about. a power hitter is judged on the ability to hit home runs and knock people in.

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mstevenk
5 years 2 months ago

thats the most ridiculous thing i’ve ever read that Joey Votto is a better offensive player than Ryan Howard, the guy consistently drives in 140+ runs and has 45+ HR’s. That’s like saying you’d rather have Dan Uggla than Chase Utley, both Votto and Uggla are nice players, but Utley and Howard are putting up HOF numbers and will for the next 8-10 years.

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jwsox
5 years 2 months ago

Utley has a 100% better chance at the HOF than howard does. Not saying howard is not a good player but come on how many power hitters are out there…tons. and a lot of them dont make it to the hall of fame. STOP WITH RBIS its not a stat about the hitter just so you know if you were to say batting average with runner in scoring position thats a better stats than rbis…Howard has sub par defense strikes out A LOT and does not have that great of a Average…so I dont know if you can say howard is a hall of famer

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5 years 2 months ago

Ryan Howard is on a historic pace in regards to home runs and in the top 5 of MVP voting every year and won an MVP. you people are buts to say he is a second tier first baseman and than say votto and youk are better than him. just stop.

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richphillies
5 years 2 months ago

He’s on a historic pace for nothing. He’s already 30 years old. Yes, he hits a lot of HR. He also debuted when he was like 25.

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markjsunz
5 years 2 months ago

Not sure what you are talking about Howard is one of the best RBI and home run hitters in the game.Without Howard you would not have won a world series. He is a large man so prehaps he is not a gold glover but he is good enough. You are the same fans that booed Mike Schmidt.

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5 years 2 months ago

Have you guys ever heard of OPS? (SLG+OBP) He (Howard) finished 9th last year among MLB 1B – and it tells you a lot more about a player than RBI does. RBI is more a function of how many people are getting on base ahead of you, and Howard happens to be planted in the most potent lineup in the National League. If you’re looking for a fantasy first-basemen to plug your HR and RBI, Howard’s your man. But he’s not a top 5 1B in terms of real productive value. Check out fangraphs.com and look at some of the more advanced statistics.

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markjsunz
5 years 2 months ago

I guess the philly ownership is not very impressed with your stats.The whole moneyball, bill james stat thing is a bust.

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5 years 2 months ago

“Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.” :)

I forgot the Phillies had such a long, storied history of being successful. And of course, their recent success couldn’t possibly be attributed to the other incredible players *around* Howard…

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markjsunz
5 years 2 months ago

Nice quote, I bet you can not tell me who you are quoting?

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Yankees420
5 years 2 months ago

I bet you can’t either.

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markjsunz
5 years 2 months ago

Any amount you would like to wager I will bet you.

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Yankees420
5 years 2 months ago

The fact that you would suggest betting someone in a comment section is laughable in itself, but just for shits and giggles let’s make the wager Howard’s new contract total.

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markjsunz
5 years 2 months ago

I did not think you knew the answer knucklehead, it is Abraham Lincoln whose quote you quoted. Go throw up on a little girl watching the game with her chief of police father. Only in the city of brotherly love.

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Yankees420
5 years 2 months ago

Whoops, I obviously can’t read very far down the page. Anyway, back to the point, while there is evidence to suggest Lincoln did say something along the lines of the quote above, there is also evidence that about a dozen other historically famous people have also been “quoted” as saying something practically identical. The truth is that the message the quote portrays originated in the Bible:

“Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.” -Proverbs 17:28

So, yeah Kyle could’ve been quoting one of many different people, and the author of the original message is unknown.

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0bsessions
5 years 2 months ago

Two things that consistently disappear early on people. This contract has him signed straight through to 37. This is a terrible contract to sign a power hitter who strikes out a ton to. Three years ago, David Ortiz was putting up those kind of gaudy numbers. That’s not even getting into the fact that this is an NL team. In the AL, you could shuttle him off to the DH spot and hope that gives him an extra couple of years by avoiding the wear and tear of fielding every day.

I’d love to have Ryan Howard on my team right now, but four years from now, much less seven? No thanks. This is a contract the Phillies are going to be SERIOUSLY regretting down the line.

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barroomhero
5 years 2 months ago

You nailed it. Haven’t we seen the era of the aging slugger begin a serious decline? And the Phils just bought into a HUGE part of that. This will be a serious drag on that team towards the end of the deal.

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leviticus6688
5 years 2 months ago

Like everyone else said. What decade is this? It’s silly and pretty moronic to evaluate a player’s value and worth based on RBI.

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leviticus6688
5 years 2 months ago

Like everyone else said. What decade is this? It’s silly and pretty moronic to evaluate a player’s value and worth based on RBI.

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5 years 2 months ago

Damn. I think they should have waited till he hit free agency and see if anyone else gave him that. I doubt another team would have wanted to give a 32 year old 1B a 5 year 125MIL contract.

25MIL a year from 32-37. You don’t see that everyday. Unless you’re A-Rod.

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jwsox
5 years 2 months ago

they pulled a cards and over bid them selves for a player..the cards did it with holliday and the phillies did it with howard…..can i just say this Ruban said there simply wasent enough money to keep cliff lee on the team after getting halladay but there was enough to extend a sooner than later DH