Boras Vs. Olney

An amusing back-and-forth is emerging between agent Scott Boras and ESPN's Buster Olney, with Tom Haudricourt of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel trying to be the objective party while relaying Boras' comments.

The discussion began Monday when Boras expounded to Haudricourt on the virtues of his client, Prince Fielder.  Boras drew a comparison to another of his clients, Mark Teixeira, who received an eight-year, $180MM contract before the 2009 season.

The following day, Olney posted a blog with anonymous quotes from multiple baseball executives, including GMs, who were concerned by Fielder's hefty body type on a long-term deal.  Olney suggested that even now, Fielder is regarded as "one of the worst first basemen in the majors."

Boras was not able to let Olney's comments slide, and Haudricourt has more from the agent in a new blog post today.  Boras cited error totals to defend Fielder's defense, and also railed against the use of unnamed sources.  Boras added that he's "tired of pundits broadcasting their forecasts of free agent markets in July," and said that Olney's predictions for many of his clients have ended up being low.  It'd be interesting to put numbers behind the claim.


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66 Comments on "Boras Vs. Olney"


scottandwtb
5 years 1 month ago

Gotta admire Boras’ persistence, although Olney’s correct.

gigantes2425
5 years 1 month ago

it would be great to see the numbers behind boras’ clients. they’re not horrible, but they’re not the greatest players like he says they are.

bigpelflikesike123
5 years 1 month ago

boras is stupid… he was quoted saying that oliver perez still can be a top pitcher if he gets healthy

5 years 1 month ago

Borass is the same CLOWN who spouted off about Oliver Perez being a combination of Sandy Koufax and Tom Seaver….. and lets not forget his comparison of Ankiel to Joe DiMaggio, Willie Mays and Duke Snider….. Borass stretches the truth (LIES) more than a guy to his wife at a convention…..

bjsguess
5 years 1 month ago

What did you want the agent to say? My client is a chump who is coming off a career year that won’t be repeated?

An agents duty is to promote his clients to maximize their earnings. The CLOWNS are the guys in the front office who buy his sales pitch. He has gotten over on most major league front offices. I hate him when my team negotiates with his clients (Teixeira from 2 years ago) but I marvel at his skill and respect his game. What he accomplished with A-Rod (twice) was nothing short of sheer brilliance. The Rangers and Yankees had no idea what hit them.

aap212
5 years 1 month ago

The clown isn’t the agent who calls Oliver Perez the new Sandy Koufax. The clown is the GM who believes it and pays accordingly. It’s not the motorcycle’s fault if you don’t know how to ride and don’t wear a helmet.

5 years 1 month ago

Ahah. This is great. It’s like a boxing match.

inkstainedscribe
5 years 1 month ago

Boras is hardly an idiot. The GMs who overpay for some of his clients, on the other hand …

5 years 1 month ago

Also, for error totals: You have to get to the ball to be able to make the error. ;D

bharsh
5 years 1 month ago

No such thing as bad pub
~Scott Boras

aap212
5 years 1 month ago

Tell that to R. Kelly.

foxtown
5 years 1 month ago

Mel Gibson disagrees

5 years 1 month ago

Doesn’t Boras broadcast his “forecasts of free agent markets in July” every year?

Clearly the guy is very good at his job, but I wonder if he even notices the contradiction in statements like that.

not_brooks
5 years 1 month ago

Boras is the one who started this whole thing, as it was he who compared a potential Fielder contract Tex’s contract in the first place.

Dave4G4e
5 years 1 month ago

entertaining, though if you read Olney’s post its simply logical and comparing the way Tex helps out the Yanks and Fielder is comparing apples and a porterhouse steak. As Olney writes, the teams pursuing Tex knew that at the very least they’d have an exceptional defensive 1B for the duration of his contract and he could also do damage at the plate. Fielder is a horrific defensive 1B. Who knows how his weight will factor in on his joints breaking down, his knees can’t be too happy carrying that frame. He will be a DH sooner than later.

5 years 1 month ago

Boras “railed against the use of unnamed sources”…yet he frequently uses mystery teams? Pot, Kettle, Black.

5 years 1 month ago

He’s such a douchebag. Straight up. He’s a liar and a hypocrite and in no way does Fielder compare with Teixeira, his closest comp would be a guy like Hafner, who only got 4/52 in a much more vibrant market than we have now. Fielder will be lucky to get 3+ years at 12 per. He’s a DH plain and simple, and entering a severe decline period. Teams are going to stay away…

Deviation
5 years 1 month ago

While Boras is massively overvaluing Fielder, you’re massively undervaluing him. He’ll get a hell of a lot more than 3+ years at 12 per. Heck, didn’t the Brewers already offer 4 or 5 years at something over $100 million?

Guest
5 years 1 month ago

“Fielder will be lucky to get 3+ years at 12 per. He’s a DH plain and simple”Umm if Dunn can get almost that, I think Fielder will get a tiny bit more. Maybe 4/60. But I could be wrong

Zack23
5 years 1 month ago

I was coming here to say the same exact thing.

Boras is great agent, but reading any of his quotes is pointless.

5 years 1 month ago

Come on now… I’m sorry all, but ME A SOX FAN is siding with Scott on this one. I’m sorry, but Busta bus (lol) has made up too many dramatic lies and too many “anonymous sources” for me to ever take anything he says seriously.

The Ryan Howard/Albert Pujols swap for starters… Come on Buster…

icedrake523
5 years 1 month ago

Liar vs. Liar

BaseballFanatic0707
5 years 1 month ago

No matter who wins-we all win, because we get to laugh at the absurdities the two will be spewing out.

5 years 1 month ago

I think Boras normally does a better job of expressing the good qualities of his clients — but I think he will find himself in a slippery slope the more he continues on about Olney — especially when he is using the same arguments on his side consistently (as stated above, who uses “unnamed team” more than Boras or starts the Free Agency talk a year and a half before his client will become one).
I don’t give either much credibility in my book…maybe Boras finds someone crazy enough to give Fielder the same money Tex is getting — it isn’t like he’s trying to get three teams to give Fielder $180 Million…he is shooting for just one desperate GM.
Boras is incredible at his job, which sometimes puts him in a not-so-desirable light…but anyone arguing against the job he’s done throughout his history is just railing against the best at what he does (Getting high $$$ for his client)

Pat_M
5 years 1 month ago

The main difference between “unnamed sources” and “mystery teams” is the code of ethics that governs reporters. Olney would lose his job and all respect in the industry if he were fabricating these reports – if he were caught that is. There is no such code of ethics in the sports contracting world. The irony of this whole “argument” is that while lashing out at each other it is mutually beneficial. Boras, Fielder, and Olney are in the media even more and that helps all 3 of them.

ZeroZeroZero
5 years 1 month ago

Boras is as “tired of pundits broadcasting their forecasts of free agent markets in July” as the rest of us are tired of Boras trying to sell their guys a year and a half before they hit the market.

monroe_says
5 years 1 month ago

I just wish Fox would have blurred Boras out of the frame last night during the All-Star Game. Seeing that beady-eyed little weasel lurking behind home plate surely must have scared the kids.

5 years 1 month ago

The FA market is deader than Big Stein’s corpse (RIP) right now, we are in a recession time, almost a near-depression and Boras is still acting like $100MM contracts are going to happen. They arent. Teams are feeling the struggle just like everyone else. Sorry Scott, you cant make everyone ignore whats going on in the real world. In fact, you are quite evil for trying to get teams to sink money they dont have into players that arent worth it.

Another thing: teams have been burned on the big name FA and everyone is relying on the 6 year cost-controlled guys instead. Its ended a few careers, but its for the best and the scaling back of monetary budgets (Yankees excluded) is only hurting people like Boras. Actually, you can ignore the words “people like” in that last sentence 😉

bk81
5 years 1 month ago

You said: “In fact, you are quite evil for trying to get teams to sink money they dont have into players that arent worth it.”

How is he evil when he tries to get more money for his client? He represents the player, not the team. If the team buys his pitch, that’s the team’s problem, not Boras’s. Sure, his methods are questionable, but it’s not his fault a GM/owner is too stupid to see through the charade.

I agree with you on your second paragraph though. Teams would prefer to stock their 25 man roster with impact players within their six year window. The problem is, not too many of those guys come around each year, so teams are forced to play the Boras game, unfortunately.

I strongly dislike Boras and his methods; I think he has had a very negative impact on the game for the average fan. But he sure is good at his job. For the life of me, I don’t understand why more GMs don’t call him on his “mystery team” bluffs. Kenny Williams has done that, any other GMs?

coolstorybro222
5 years 1 month ago

Prince Fielder uses Rickie Week’s bat. Enough said. He is such a weakling he has to use smaller bats.

Deviation
5 years 1 month ago

Which is why he hits 40-50 HRs a year right? Because he’s so weak?

coolstorybro222
5 years 1 month ago

Maybe because he doesn’t use his own bat?

coolstorybro222
5 years 1 month ago

*cough*juicer*cough*

5 years 1 month ago

That fact that “Boras added that he’s “tired of pundits broadcasting their forecasts of free agent markets in July,” is just comical. Isn’t that exactly what Boras is doing when comparing Fielder to Teixeira?

Encarnacion's Parrot
5 years 1 month ago

If Teixeira gains about 200 pounds and loses his defensive abilities then Boras might be on to something here.

Unfortunately then the Yanks would have greatly overpaid the guy even moreso.

oscargamble
5 years 1 month ago

I was tired of looking at Boras’ mug standing behind home plate during most of the all star game.