The Phillies’ 2011 Rotation

The Phillies' 2011 rotation won't be hard to assemble, will be expensive and should be effective. The combination of Roy Halladay, Roy Oswalt, Cole Hamels and Joe Blanton will cost the Phillies $56MM next season – more than the Padres, Pirates or Marlins will spend on their entire teams this year. That's an expensive front four, but the group should also be durable and effective. 

Halladay is arguably the best pitcher in the game and Oswalt and Hamels are in the midst of characteristically strong seasons. That trio is tough to beat, even if Blanton doesn't rebound from his career high 5.54 ERA. 

This year, Charlie Manuel has called on Jamie Moyer and Kyle Kendrick to fill out the rotation. Moyer, a free agent this offseason, is out indefinitely with a left elbow injury, but Kendrick has been effective in spite of his low strikeout rate (4.5 K/9). He has a 4.45 ERA thanks to his ability to limit walks (2.4 BB/9) and induce enough ground balls (44% ground ball rate).

Should the Phillies need to call on a minor leaguer next year, they'll have a few options. Right-handers Drew Carpenter and Vance Worley have been effective in the upper minors this year and both have pitched in the majors. Worley, still just 22, could become a back-of-the-rotation starter, according to pre-season analysis from Baseball America. Carpenter, who is two and a half years older than Worley, is now putting together his second consecutive solid season at Triple A Lehigh Valley, so he provides Philadelphia with another option.

The Phillies can bring their entire rotation back for 2011 and they have minor leaguers who are ready to contribute if called upon. They don't need to pursue Moyer or other free agent pitchers this winter and they already have about $144MM committed to next year's payroll, so they wouldn't have much to spend on pitching if they wanted to.

Philadelphia traded talented players away to acquire the rotation they now have. It cost Kyle DrabekJ.A. Happ and then some to acquire Halladay and Oswalt. The result is a more predictable, more expensive rotation that could easily be one of the league's best. 


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  1. frank_costanza 5 years ago

    Kyle Kendrick has earned a spot in the rotation. I have always really liked the kid, and he has pitched far better than his numbers indicate (which are a result of a dreadful April).

    • EdinsonPickle 5 years ago

      I’ve been a fan of him since he came up in 2007, and although he has certainly had his struggles since then I always hoped he would come back and contribute with the big club, and he has been solid in the back end of that rotation, and before going out and signing any free agents I would give Kendrick the 5th spot in the rotation.

    • soundofphilly 5 years ago

      Kendrick is a back end guy – and he pitches like one. No complaints here.

  2. Dave_Gershman 5 years ago

    If Jamie Moyer is planning on making a comeback and a healthy one on that, I’d take a gamble on him.

    I’m trying to determine who could become the Jon Garland or Brett Myers of this coming off-season…Maybe the Phillies could give Jeremy Bonderman a shot.

  3. greglotto 5 years ago

    Kendrick and Moyer are both dead weight to the organization. Just let them go find jobs somewhere else. Thanks for the service guys, but it’s time to move on.

    • Dave_Gershman 5 years ago

      Actually, lately, Kyle Kendrick has pitched great. Really seems to have re-discovered what he did in the end of ’07.

    • penpaper 5 years ago

      I hope you’re not serious. Do you expect every pitcher to be a #1? As some have said, he is at best a number 4. Nothing to it. He won’t be arb eligible till 2012, correct if I’m wrong, so they need those cheap fill ins like Kendrick.

  4. frank_costanza 5 years ago

    The Phillies wont have the luxury of signing a new starter. What they have this year is what they will have next year. With all of the money they have committed to next years roster, and the fact that Romero, Durbin, and Contreras are walking, every penny they spend will likely go to the bullpen.

    • Dave_Gershman 5 years ago

      And rightfully so, the pen has struggled a bit and if they could maybe buy low on a reliever like the Marlins did with Veras, Hensley, and Sanches over the past few years, they could benefit.

      • I really wish we didn’t let Sanches go, He was the closer for Lehigh Valley a few years ago, we could have used him right about now

        • Dave_Gershman 5 years ago

          Give credit to Michael Hill and Larry for finding him though.

          Interesting guy though never know what you’re going to get.

  5. philliesfan27 5 years ago

    kendrick has pitched like a 5th starter which he is…. and he’ll always have those outings where he goes 7 innings 2 run baseball

  6. You’re not taking into account the money coming from Houston for Oswalt

  7. Slopeboy 5 years ago

    Phillies are in good shape for next year with their rotation. They can finally afford to let Moyer go and fill the 5th spot with a deserving minor leaguer. Playing in a mediocre division all they need to do is settle the few position needs and the starters will lead them right into the 1st slot in the NL east.

    • BaseballFanatic0707 5 years ago

      You make it sound like the Braves are completely non-factor or something.

      • Slopeboy 5 years ago

        I’m not a Phillies fan, and do give credit to the Braves for improving the team over last yr. But you need to keep in mind that if Philadelphia had not lost Rollins, Ibanez, Howard, Utley, for a sigificant amount of time, how much of a factor would the Braves really be, other than a wild card hopeful. As it is, that is where they may end up, now that the Phillies are starting to reload.

    • Ferrariman 5 years ago

      “mediocre?”

      i can’t see a single team in the NLW finish under .500 next season. maybe the nats but not by much…

      and then their is those gosh darn braves who are pretty decent….

      • Slopeboy 5 years ago

        I take it you meant NL East. Florida and NY are .500 and Nats under. If either one of the first two teams finish at 4 games over .500 does that mean they are not mediocre? Granted the Braves have improved, but when 60% of the division is maybe at .500 to me thats a mediocre division.

  8. moonraker45 5 years ago

    What about that stud pitching prospect they got back from the mariners in the cliff lee deal.. lol His 7+ era in AA should translate well to the major league level

  9. Ferrariman 5 years ago

    meh…call me a homer but i’l take Wainwright over Halladay..cheaper/younger/better #’s this season and last season/etc. but their both so…damn…good…

    • facialfridays 5 years ago

      i dont know about that, i see wainwright slipping soon, his numbers have been steadily decreasing, although its a small decrease by small decrease. i see him being reverted back to a closer somewhere not too far off.

      • Ferrariman 5 years ago

        lol what? why would you even remotely consider putting wainwright back in the bullpen? thats where pitchers who need to figure out their flaws go..not where rising stud pitcher who need more playing.

      • vtadave 5 years ago

        If by “steadily decreasing”, you’re referring to his ERA, walk rate, home run rate, average against, FB%, and WHIP, then yes, his numbers are decreasing.

    • moonraker45 5 years ago

      you’re comparing 2 stars at different point of their careers.. Wainwright isn’t going to always be this young and cheap.

      • Ferrariman 5 years ago

        doesn’t matter.

        BNS’ exact words…

        “Halladay is arguably the best pitcher in the game” which is referring to RIGHT NOW.

      • vtadave 5 years ago

        So Wainwright is going to get older as the years go by? Wow…

        Salaries:

        2011: $6.5 million
        2012: $9 million
        2013: $12 million

        Not bad at all.

        • moonraker45 5 years ago

          I missed the part where I disagreed. Stop arguing for the sake of arguing..

          • vtadave 5 years ago

            So if I disagree with a post, I should either say, “Yeah, you the man!” or simply not say anything? Got it.

          • moonraker45 5 years ago

            Again, your reading comprehension isn’t up to par. I said I DONT DISAGREE, show me where i did. So all i’m saying is don’t reply to me disagreeing with something i didn’t even say? got it good.

  10. in the offseason i would like to see the Phils try to move Ibanez and keep Werth 2 many lefties in one lineup is just damaging.

    • Dylan 5 years ago

      Not going to happen. No one will give you anything or pay Ibanez AND he has a NTC so why would he leave a good situation?

      • Dylan 5 years ago

        More realistically, Victorino could be traded for Bullpen help…

  11. Victorino will not be traded for bullpen help. Werth will be leaving via Free Agency (Phils can’t afford him with all the other monies locked up). D. brown will take over but then you have no one left to play center if you trade Victorino.

    • JohnKruksWaistline 5 years ago

      Do you mean no one else could play center if they opted to trade Victorino over re-signing Werth? If yes, then you’re not realizing Werth could play center with Brown in right field.

  12. PhilsPhaninPhlorida 5 years ago

    I think Fransisco gets a lot more playing time as the Right-handed LF and RF – so basically, having a 4 man OF consisting of Ibanez ~ Victorino ~ Brown & Fransisco.

    Don’t forget, when he was playing everyday for Cleveland, he had a good year with 14 HR and 15 SB. Given a full year, he’s a 20/20 guy.

    Werth will get us the 2 picks.. and what of Gillies? Is he done now that he got busted for coke? Maybe Mayberry comes as well?

  13. Funny how the phillies rotation costs them more than the padres pay on their entire team but the padres are the team with better pitching.

    • Muggi 5 years ago

      Yeah all the Phils young stud pitching prospects are a couple years away yet.

      The Phillies have the money to buy talent until the in-house guys are ready…very nice option if need be.

  14. Hey smart guy. In 5 years when the Padres rotation has more service time, they will be making just as much as the Phillies.

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