Royals Intend To Listen To Offers For Greinke

The Royals boast baseball's best farm system, deep with impact bats and power arms, but the timetable for those prospects might not match up with their best player, starter Zack Greinke. Because of that, ESPN's Buster Olney reports (Insider req'd) that the team intends to listen to "any and all" offers for the righthander, who has two years and $27MM left on his contract before free agency.

Five days away from his 27th birthday, Greinke would instantly become the best available starter on the trade market this offseason and the second best available pitcher overall behind free agent-to-be Cliff Lee. The 2009 Cy Young Award winner posted a 4.17 ERA in 2010, but his peripherals were still excellent (7.4 K/9, 2.3 BB/9) and his fastball was as lively as ever. The high ERA is the result of a 65.3% left-on-base rate, well below the 72.2% league average. Kansas City's porous defense (-44.5 UZR, third worst in MLB) had a hand in that.

Olney notes that because Greinke is under contract for two more years, they don't have to trade him just yet. They could wait until the deadline or next offseason to get the offer they want, and there's always the possibility of an extension assuming Greinke likes what he sees as far as the rebuilding process. He sounded pessimistic about those efforts back in August, though.

Greinke does have a limited no-trade clause in his contract for this season according to Cot's, though the extent of his veto power is unknown.


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208 Comments on "Royals Intend To Listen To Offers For Greinke"


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dizzle4
4 years 8 months ago

With Greinke, Prince Fielder, Adrian Gonzalez, Matt Kemp and Colby Rasmus all rumored to be possibly traded this off-season (not saying they will, but that at least we’ll hear a bunch of rumors about them!), this winter could be a blast.

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4 years 8 months ago

The Cardinals won’t trade Colby Rasmus. He is a top (Cardinal farm system) prospect, young, and cheap. Also, I don’t think a lot of teams will be interested in the baggage that comes with Colby: his dad who thinks he’s a coach

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

I agree, and as a Royals fan, it’s really exciting to imagine our farm system even better than it already is. Imagine Montero and Betances added to Lamb, Duffy, Colon, Giavotella, Moose, Monty, Eibner, Keating, Hosmer, Myers, Perez, Dwyer, Collins, Coleman, D-Rob, Arguelles, Ventura, Sandford, Cuthbert, Santiago, and Simmons? That would be incredible. Although I think it’s best to trade Greinke next summer when his value is higher, I think the Royals can still get a lot for him now as well.

And all of this talk about him not succeeding in a large market, the truth is that nobody knows, so we just can’t rule out any teams. As you said, it’s going to be so exciting!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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FriedCalamari
4 years 8 months ago

just curious, how many teams are you a fan of? Seems like a bit^^

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

Every single one

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4 years 8 months ago

cough except the yankees cough

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4 years 8 months ago

I’m going to laugh at you when this doesen’t happen.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

Trust me, if you laugh at me, ill understand

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4 years 8 months ago

Wouldn’t Greinke’s value be highest now while the team has him for 2 full years instead of 1 1/2 or less?

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

He didn’t have a good season so if they kept him until next summer he would have the chance to really rebuild his value.

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Ferrariman
4 years 8 months ago

he would also have a chance to damage it even more if they waited till the deadline…..

if teams are still willing to give up an ace’s ransom to get grienke NOW, then i would do it.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

As would I, I was just pointing that out. Trade him today. 3:20 EST.

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jth532
4 years 8 months ago

Plus teams contending at the deadline tend to be willing to give up more in an attempt to win that year.

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Guest
4 years 8 months ago

He had a very good season.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

Explain why? He did not.

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jdub220
4 years 8 months ago

He’s 7th among AL pitchers in fWAR. That’s why.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

Okay. And his ERA was over 200 points from what it was the year before, his K rate was down, he was extremely inconsistent. I’m sorry he didn’t have a good season.

opp BABIP was .314
He was -.50 clutch

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Guest
4 years 8 months ago

come on now.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

I’m sorry, what do you want me to say?

He did not have a good season.

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vtadave
4 years 8 months ago

Clearly he took a step back, but taking a step back from a Cy Young season to a solid starter doesn’t mean he had a “bad” season. Maybe bad by HIS standards, but far from bad when measured versus the overall SP population.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

So what I meant was, for greinke, it wasn’t good.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

I’m sorry, what do you want me to say?

He did not have a good season.

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Guest
4 years 8 months ago

come on now.

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jdub220
4 years 8 months ago

Just because this year’s performance wasn’t as good as last years, doesn’t mean he didn’t have a good year. He still was one of the best pitchers last year. You can book him for around 220 IP with a 3.10-3.40 ERA next year.

EDIT: My God, I said “year” like, 1000000000000000 times there. Oh well.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

Certainly. He is one of the best pitchers in baseball, but to me, a 4.14 ERA doesn’t qualify as a good season. And he will have a good season next year.

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jdub220
4 years 8 months ago

Just because this year’s performance wasn’t as good as last years, doesn’t mean he didn’t have a good year. He still was one of the best pitchers last year. You can book him for around 220 IP with a 3.10-3.40 ERA next year.

EDIT: My God, I said “year” like, 1000000000000000 times there. Oh well.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

Okay. And his ERA was over 200 points from what it was the year before, his K rate was down, he was extremely inconsistent. I’m sorry he didn’t have a good season.

opp BABIP was .314
He was -.50 clutch

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jdub220
4 years 8 months ago

He’s 7th among AL pitchers in fWAR. That’s why.

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Ian_Smell
4 years 8 months ago

It’d be stupid for them not to listen, if someone is willing to ridiculously overpay for him, then they should think about trading him.

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4 years 8 months ago

Greinke’s past anxiety issues will definitely deter most contending teams. Is there anyone out there that would trust him to not implode on a big stage? I wouldn’t, he’s a disaster waiting to happen.

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4 years 8 months ago

This is true. His $27mil (2 years) is a hefty price tag for someone that could be the next Khalil Greene.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

no one knows what will happen. You can only assume or guess.

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David McCutcheon
4 years 8 months ago

Which is why his point is legitimate.

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4 years 8 months ago

As far as I know his mental health issues have never led him to break down mentally during a game.

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4 years 8 months ago

They don’t lead to breakdowns–just laspes in judgment, an apathetic demeanor and a wandering mind.

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Just_MLB
4 years 8 months ago

sounds like oliver perez has been leading a double life.

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Just_MLB
4 years 8 months ago

sounds like oliver perez has been leading a double life.

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Potrzeba
4 years 8 months ago

I bet the Yankees get into this one, maybe a trade like Phil huges, chamberlian, Gardner, montero for grienke and soria.

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mikeclyne
4 years 8 months ago

Keep Hughes and Gardner and add Brackman and keep out Soria.

Brackman, Joba and Montero for Grienke

Next 5-10 years of Grienke and Hughes would be untouchable for Yankees. Add in CC and maybe one more year of Pettite. The Yankees would be back in the WS no question.

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Potrzeba
4 years 8 months ago

U forgot cliff lee. Plus I’m a sox fan so we’d be screwed o this happened.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

How about just Betances and Montero for Greinke?

Soria is staying, but if he went to the Rays for Jennings and Hellickson that would be awesome for my Royals!!

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Potrzeba
4 years 8 months ago

The royals would be set if they got hell boy and Jennings. I think the rays would trade Wade Davis for soria. But Jennings is gunna be there replacement for Crawford. I think the royals could easy get huges, chamberlian and montero for grienke. Or Gardner, chamberlian, montero, and 2 top prospects.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

I think Betances and Montero is more than enough for Greinke.

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Potrzeba
4 years 8 months ago

I don’t know this betances guy? Who is he and what postion does he play?He wasn’t on the top 100 prospects list. Unless he’s really good I Expect the royals to ask for more.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

He is one of the top 5-10 pitching prospects in Baseball.

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Potrzeba
4 years 8 months ago

They might ask to have chamberlian thrown in. Or the Yankees will throw him in. That sounds like a pretty even trade. I’d still ask for huges, Gardner, nova. Justvone though.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

Nova Betances montero

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RedSoxDynasty
4 years 8 months ago

Not even close! Montero couldn’t get 3 months of Cliff Lee, nevermind 2 years of Greinke!

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

Okay I hear you. Montero, Betances, Adams, and Gardner?

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4 years 8 months ago

Gardner isn’t going anywhere. David Adams might be solid trade bait. Span, if the Yankees(Hopefully)don’t trade for Zack, wouldn’t you like to see Texas go after him? Better atmosphere for Grienke.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

Honestly Henry, absolutley…but I seriously think that maybe 2/3 of MLB teams might go after him and would be a decent fit. Because obviously there’s a chance that the pressure and media will get to greinke, but there’s also a chance it won’t, which is what a lot of teams see banking on and rightfully so. I would like to see the Rangers make a play but I would like to see tons of teams make a play as well

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Potrzeba
4 years 8 months ago

Deal!

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

Sounds good to me.

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4 years 8 months ago

montero is the best hitting prospect in baseball. His value is increasing .

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RoyalBlue
4 years 8 months ago

Are you kidding me look again…

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4 years 8 months ago

he Yankees aren’t going to trade Phil Hughes. He won 18 games and is 24.

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RoyalBlue
4 years 8 months ago

I sure they would!!! But you are also dreaming if you think the Royals would trade Soria for Davis…

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Montero1220
4 years 8 months ago

How about NOT trading Montero. I was fine with Cashman trying to trade Montero for Halladay and maybe even Cliff Lee but Zack Greinke is NOWHERE near the caliber of those guys. The Yankees need Montero, bad defense and all. His bat is godlike and if we can get him to play passable defense (Brian McCann like defense) that would be epic. Cervelli has been uninspiring and Romine is looking like a below average starting catcher. Montero is the catcher Yankee fans have been waiting for.

How about Betances, Romine, and Joba for Greinke. I could see Eduardo Nunez and Brandon Laird also being trade bait for deals like this. The Royals need a shortstop after all. Call me greedy but I’d love for the Yankees to get Joakim Soria somehow. Who knows?

I have to say that this offseason is going to be way more exciting than last year. Alot of teams are catching on to small market success stories like the Rays and trying to build their teams the same way.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

I disagree with you bigtime

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Potrzeba
4 years 8 months ago

Actually they drafted Christian colon this year. He’s there future ss. Ur giving up no good prospects for grienke. What do u think the royals are built off of? Prospects. That’s just like me saying trade grienke and soria to Boston for Anderson, bowden, reddick, ellsbury. If u want grienke and soria ur gunna have to give up good prospects. Like huges or gardner forthe center pieace, then montero, Betances, plus chamberlian or nova.

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4 years 8 months ago

Brian McCann is an average defensive catcher

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jwredsox
4 years 8 months ago

Montero isn’t a catcher. He doesn’t even play passable defense and is too big for the position. He is a career DH with Teixeira at first.

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4 years 8 months ago

As a Red Sox fan, I would LOVE for them to do that. Oh man, my prayers would be answered.

I hope you’re trolling…

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Potrzeba
4 years 8 months ago

I’m also a red sox fan to. We might e in trouble if the Yankees got grienke and soria. I don’t think Boston has room for grienke in our rotation. We would have to move dice-k. I don’t know if I could give up 4 top prospects for this guy. He would have a hell lot more pressure pitching for Boston or new York and in the AL east.

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4 years 8 months ago

I don’t think so at all. If they gave up what you said, they would be a much weaker team. Greinke will not be in Yankee Stadium or Fenway Park. He just can’t handle the pressure.

I could definitely see a NL team going after him though. Maybe the Cards or Braves?

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Potrzeba
4 years 8 months ago

I don’t know, I would say the Yankees will be on this one and the only way the sox get into this one is of the asking price is low. Which probs isn’t the case. I don’t think it will make there team weaker. The only guy they would really miss would be gardner. Grienke is an upgrade over huges, soria is an upgrade over chamberlian. Plus the Yankees will probs sign lee this offseason so cc, lee, grienke, pettite, nova. That’s still very strong rotation right there.

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4 years 8 months ago

Pettitte is probably going to retire. and nova stats aftr the 5th inning are awful. nova should be a long reliver.

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4 years 8 months ago

I think the Braves spent a lot trying to make something happen this year. I think you’ll see them unload a bit and not pick up big contracts in the 1st year of a new manager.

The Cardinals would love Greinke, but as mentioned by someone previously, he does have the anxiety issues. Two things that would not make St. Louis a buyer:

1) Pujols is going to cost a fortune and they will re-sign him for a long term deal
2) The Cardinals already have one expensive pitcher, Kyle Lo(h)se, that exploded in their face, I doubt they are going to throw down that kind of money ($10+ mil per year) on Greinke.

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Potrzeba
4 years 8 months ago

Remember the braves also have some bad contracts. Like lowe, mcouth, and that asian pither. Plus I think they will foucus more on offsesne more that pitching. They’re stacked when it comes to pitching.

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4 years 8 months ago

I don’t think there is any way the Royals trade Zack to the Cardinals. How many trades have these two done in the past? Any possible deal would start at the minimum with Rasmus if even possible to begin with.

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Potrzeba
4 years 8 months ago

The cardinals have no good prospects outside of rasmus, and Shelly. Besides they are foucused on resigning pujols.

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4 years 8 months ago

Cox?

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vtadave
4 years 8 months ago

“Shelly”? Who is that?

And how is Rasmus a prospect? Ugh.

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4 years 8 months ago

The Royals tried to pry Gardner away from NY over the offseason but they settled for Rick Ankiel. Personally, I was hoping they would get Gardner and would be open to seeing him play in KC’s horrendous pasture. DeJesus is all they have out there, and Brett could actually leadoff in KC. Seems like a fit, and if Soria is also thrown in, Hughes would have to come to KC too. But Soria, if not Billy Butler, is the most untouchable guy the Royals have.

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RoyalBlue
4 years 8 months ago

Billy is far from untouchable we have an overload of talent that can play 1B…

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RoyalBlue
4 years 8 months ago

LOL get out of here… Grienke and Soria… You want an ace and one the best closers in basebal… Keep dreaming!l

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Ferrariman
4 years 8 months ago

the rangers seem like a logical fit.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

agreed. As do the Brewers…

Maybe some combo of Holland, Perez, and Scheppers and Beltre. (even though they have have a lot of LHP’s in the organization).

The Brewers could trade Lawrie, Odorizzi, Jeffress, and Cain for example…

The Reds could trade Mesoraco, Sappelt, and Hamilton.

The Dodgers could send over Trayvon Robinson and Dee Gordon

The Rockies could trade Wilin Rosario, Tyler Matzek, and Fowler.

The Nationals might have a decent package if they trade Norris, Storen, and Hood.

The Cubs, Brett Jackson, Chris Archer, and Colvin.

The Yankees, Montero and Betances

The Mets, Armando Rodriguez, Kirk Nieuwenhuis, Tejada, and Martinez.

Just speculating.

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BillB325
4 years 8 months ago

Sorry unless he comes back to his 09 form I belive Brett Jackson Archer and Colvin is a little much for two years of expensive talent. Try Colvin, Lee, and Cashner.

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theoldgrizzlybear
4 years 8 months ago

I’d consider dealing Rosario, Friedrich, and Fowler if I were the Rox, but NOT Matzek. I wouldn’t even be real keen on dealing Rosario, but I guess you gotta do what you gotta do.

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grabarkewitz
4 years 8 months ago

If the Royals would go for that deal of Robinson and Gordon for Greinke, I would make it, but several things stand in the way. One, Frank McCourt cannot afford Greinke’s salary and two, with Rafael Furcal and his bad back, we need to keep Gordon around. If I was wearing Ned Colletti’s toupee, I would think that Kemp and either one of these young arms – Rubby De La Rosa, Allen Webster and Aaron Miller might get Dayton Moore interested.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

Definetly agree with you.

Matt Kemp and Allen Webster would make me certainly happy.

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Guest
4 years 8 months ago

“One, Frank McCourt cannot afford Greinke’s salary”

Yes he can but the Dodgers cannot afford to purge the remaining system and take the contract.

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Tko11
4 years 8 months ago

The Rangers gave up their top prospect for Cliff Lee, I would think they go hard after Lee. I cant see them trading more prospects away for a SP.