White Sox Willing To Discuss Gavin Floyd

The White Sox are willing to discuss righty Gavin Floyd, tweets Joel Sherman of the New York Post.  I'm sure the return would have to be significant, as Floyd is locked up affordably through 2012 with a club option for '13.

Floyd, 28 in January, posted a 4.08 ERA, 7.3 K/9, 2.8 BB/9, 0.7 HR/9, and career-best 49.9% groundball rate in 2010.  He'd be preferable to almost every other available starter, even Cliff Lee if you're not keen on top dollar six-year free agent commitments for pitchers.  The Brewers, Rangers, Yankees, Marlins, Nationals, Astros, Pirates, Diamondbacks, Rockies, and Dodgers are among the teams I'd expect to have interest in Floyd.


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ThinkBlue10
4 years 9 months ago

Get it done Ned! What a rotation that would be.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

Trayvon Robinson, Rubby De La Rosa for Gav?

shysox
4 years 9 months ago

Give us Loney!

chetkincaid
4 years 9 months ago

Are you kidding? NO.

shysox
4 years 9 months ago

I can’t tell whether you’re a dodgers or white sox fan, but most other dodgers fans would do that trade, i would guess.

chetkincaid
4 years 9 months ago

This is from a White Sox fan. You’re going to give up Gavin Floyd for James Loney? NO.

jwsox
4 years 9 months ago

much agreed maybe if it were floy+jarred mitchell+quentin for kemp then we could be talking(resonable trade for both sides)

4 years 9 months ago

There is no way Jarred Mitchell would get dealt. He is basically a true rookie, considering he was hurt all last season

Antonio Nicarelli
4 years 9 months ago

I agree. And the Quentin throw-in is insane. I could see Floyd and Jordan Danks for Kemp.

AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs
4 years 9 months ago

Is this from a Dodger perspective or Sox perspective. The Dodgers would easily add him.

4 years 9 months ago

Floyd straight up for Loney?! DONE!!! GO BLUE!!

ThinkBlue10
4 years 9 months ago

I would not mind giving loney up at all.

AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs
4 years 9 months ago

Get it done Cash! What a rotation that would be.

4 years 9 months ago

We knew something like this was coming. I’d just rather it be Buehrle.

4 years 9 months ago

Buehrle has a cause in his contract that makes his salary increase if he is dealt.

jwsox
4 years 9 months ago

me too but considering sale is in the mix for this year and next year withs buehrles massive contract off the bok next seaosn the sox will have good spending money plus they could always retain jackson

Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

Gavin Floyd for Prince Fielder straight up?

shysox
4 years 9 months ago

not to be a jerk or anything, but is this a joke?

invader3k
4 years 9 months ago

You don’t think that’s a fair trade? Seems like a solid starting point, at least.

shysox
4 years 9 months ago

Well, i thought that Fielder could bring in a much greater return.

invader3k
4 years 9 months ago

You’d think so, but if this past July was any indication, maybe not.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

Which side hangs up first?

shysox
4 years 9 months ago

Brew Crew.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

Not at all

Guest
4 years 9 months ago

The Brewers can get a package built around prospects better than Floyd.. When they trade Fielder they will most likely go into semi rebuild mode. Floyd makes no sense to a team that would likely shed money and not contend.

whitesoxfan424
4 years 9 months ago

I disagree, even with the loss of Fielder, the offense still has some good pop revolving around Braun and McGee.

shysox
4 years 9 months ago

Don’t forget Rickie Weeks or Corey Hart.

whitesoxfan424
4 years 9 months ago

Exactly.

shysox
4 years 9 months ago

IMO, the centerpiece of the deal would have to be Gavin Floyd, then we’d have to give them either Brent Morel (move Casey McGehee to 1st base, Morel’s defense is stellar), or give them Dayan Viciedo to play at 1st base, and Eduardo Escobar (shortstop) and we can get Prince Fielder and 3MM in cash to help with Prince’s arbitration raise. That’s always how I’ve envisioned a Fielder trade for the White Sox.

Guest
4 years 9 months ago

Brewers

4 years 9 months ago

No thanks.

penpaper
4 years 9 months ago

That would be great for both sides.

4 years 9 months ago

I would hate to see Floyd moved for a one year rental. Fielder wont sign with the Sox and even if Boras and KW would talk, it would be WAY more than the Sox would be willing to pay for an extension
The Sox have holes to fill and unless they are really in a rebuilding mode, I dont see the value of trading a low cost, solid starting pitcher unless they can fill one or two of those holes. Trading Floyd doesnt give them any real payroll flexibility to sign free agents.
I could see them trading Jackson before Floyd but obviously the return wouldnt be as great.

Big question…..will Peavy ever be healthy enough to be affective again?

Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

Yes he will

shysox
4 years 9 months ago

If we trade Floyd then we should sign Jon Garland….ahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahaahhahaahhaahhahahahahaahahahahaha. I’m sure everyone but Oz would like that!

yazpik
4 years 9 months ago

Get it done Jack Z!! Aardsma and a prospect for Floyd…

shysox
4 years 9 months ago

Gotta love that 0-6 record and 3.44 ERA as a closer in safeco.

4 years 9 months ago

you cant be serious

kahnives
4 years 9 months ago

Sox had Aardsma…he flopped here. KW isn’t going to want him back.

danks50
4 years 9 months ago

“Mlbtraderumors were overrated closers and bad prospects are proposed for a guy who equaled David Price in WAR last season.”

4 years 9 months ago

as a dodger fan floyd for loney is good deal, i been tired of watching has been fight for the 5th spot rotation. Get it done Ned !!!

mikeclyne
4 years 9 months ago

Joba + Brackman for Flyod?

shysox
4 years 9 months ago

anyone but joba…

shysox
4 years 9 months ago

Acutally, if you give us Granderson we’ll give you Floyd and Quentin

Kolukonu
4 years 9 months ago

Only way I would pull the trigger on that deal if I were Cashman was if I could get a LF either through FA or trade. That would shift Gardner back to CF, and I would plug Quentin in at DH, or rotate him with Swisher in RF. If the Yanks for some reason lose out on Lee, perhaps that’s an option, while going after Crawford to fill that new void in LF.

4 years 9 months ago

Thats the silliest proposal Ive seen in quite awhile

shysox
4 years 9 months ago

I am a professional at silly trade proposals, but silly for what team is what I’m wondering.

4 years 9 months ago

I just think that the Sox wouldnt be interested in dealing for an older outfielder. Im not saying that Granderson isnt better than Quentin…but that trade would just create one more spot to fill for the Sox. Trading Floyd for an outfielder is one thing…even though I happen to believe that good pitchers are worth more than outfielders…but ideally if they do that, they plug CQ into the DH spot.
Granderson is a nice player but unless youre confident that CQ cant be more consistent, I dont see where he is worth CQ and Floyd. Granderson is a lifetime .268 hitter. Hes not really cheap going forward.

Kolukonu
4 years 9 months ago

Ehrm…. Granderson isn’t really an older outfielder.

4 years 9 months ago

Hes older than Quentin. Thats what I meant

Kolukonu
4 years 9 months ago

As a Yankees fan, it’d take more than Joba and Brackman to get Floyd. Joba’s trade value is severely diminished after last year, and Brackman is still recovering from his surgery. Yes, both have high ceilings, however I think one more good prospect would have to be included for that deal to be done.

I would definitely support that kind of deal, though. Floyd is much better than Vazquez, so we’d have an improvement there. He has the potential of an ace pitcher IMO, and has shown flashes of brilliance. Once he pieces it all together, he’ll be a quality #2-3 starter.

shysox
4 years 9 months ago

You are one of the extremely rare Yankee fans with intelligence.

Kolukonu
4 years 9 months ago

I appreciate that compliment. :)

4 years 9 months ago

My Kenny Williams sense is tingling. He’s going to be making a big move soon.

mkorpal
4 years 9 months ago

I wonder what it would take from the Rockies.

4 years 9 months ago

Gavin Floyd for Colby Rasmus.

Guest
4 years 9 months ago

The Cards would never do that. A young cost controlled CF with power and plus defense is worth a tad bit more than a good number 2/3 starter.

shysox
4 years 9 months ago

let’s not talk rasmus, Ferrariman will talk BS to us saying “that’s not enough”

Guest
4 years 9 months ago

Its not though.

shysox
4 years 9 months ago

Obviously.

4 years 9 months ago

How about Floyd and Beckham? I think that’s enough.

Antonio Nicarelli
4 years 9 months ago

That is too much, too. Floyd and Jordan Danks.

4 years 9 months ago

Jordan Danks is a 4th outfielder at best. he gets no deal for Rasmus done. I think Beckham and Floyd is a lot, but you have to realize Rasmus’s talent. I think the Sox would ask for a little bit back more than Rasmus, but if you want Rasmus, you need to give up a lot.

4 years 9 months ago

already had aardsma. Keep it.

The Sox will be looking to fill at least 2 holes (1B,OF,RP) by dealing Gavin.

4 years 9 months ago

If Kenny Williams is discussing Gavin Floyd in public, then every Sox fan knows that he will soon be moving John Danks.

4 years 9 months ago

Ive been saying for a while now that it wouldnt surprise me a bit if Danks were moved this off season. Its not that hes not a good pitcher…in fact I believe he will have his best year in 2011. Its because he has thus far refused to sign a long term deal like Floyd has. Danks will become quite expensive soon if he continues his growth and doesnt agree to a deal. For that reason alone, he would seem to be a great trade option for the Sox. He is still young, a lefty, and has huge upside. I could see Kenny moving him but it would have to be for a difference maker..and not a rental

whitesoxfan424
4 years 9 months ago

This cannot / will not happen… Buehrle and Jackson are FA after 2011 and Peavy will never be a top tier rotation guy again, let alone who knows if he’ll ever pitch again.

If we trade Floyd… who the heck is our rotation in 2012? Danks, Sale (maybe), Peavy, Harrell… That sounds like a 4th/5th place finish, easily.

Guest
4 years 9 months ago

“f**k the future” – Kenny Williams

Braun4Pres
4 years 9 months ago

That sounds more like a Kenny Powers quote, than a Kenny Williams quote, but I love your optimism… haha

4 years 9 months ago

2012 Rotation/ Buehrle, Peavy, Floyd, Sale, TBD righty we acquire in a trade

Buehrle will re-sign unless he retires. He talks about wanting to go to STL, but he’ll spend his career on the south side.

Danks is my favorite player right now, but he carries the most value and he’s the most unwilling to sign long-term. If anyone gets moved, it will be him.

Most teams can’t figure out their 5 man rotation for next year, let alone 2012. Don’t worry about the 4th/5th guy right now, things will work out. Who saw Chris Sale coming this time last year?

whitesoxfan424
4 years 9 months ago

Buehrle seems to not really care to continue to be here long term. No one knows if Sale can be a SP in the MLB. He’s shown he has the tools to be a setup or closer. Peavy may be done and I wouldn’t plan on him being any more than a 4th rotation guy, if we’re lucky.

4 years 9 months ago

My point is to not worry about what the rotation will look like in 2 years. The teams themselves don’t know what it will look like, let alone online fanboys.

Devern Hansack
4 years 9 months ago

I’d love to see the Pirates get in on this. What about Justin Wilson + Zack Von Rosenburg + Chase D’Arnaud for Gavin Floyd?

Guest
4 years 9 months ago

Is wilson the guy who pitched for Fresno State?

Devern Hansack
4 years 9 months ago

Yeah, he’s a former fifth-round pick. Man, if the Pirates can deal for Floyd and Scutaro and sign Webb, then they could contend this year.

shysox
4 years 9 months ago

That’s a very good trade proposal, but a trade I would do in a heartbeat is Gavin Floyd and maybe Brent Morel for Pedro Alvarez, hey I’m just dreaming here.

4 years 9 months ago

Floyd + Jared Mitchell for McCutchen?

Devern Hansack
4 years 9 months ago

I’m not sure they’d do that…Gorkys Hernandez isn’t quite ready for the big leagues, and Mitchell had ankle surgery this spring. That would leave their starting outfield as Tabata, Jones, and Milledge; I doubt they’d want that.

SteelCityResident13
4 years 9 months ago

Did you read what you just wrote as our outfield? What a joke, please delete your post.

Devern Hansack
4 years 9 months ago

Did you read my post? I said that I doubt that the Pirates want Tabata, Jones, and Milledge to be the starting outfield.

4 years 9 months ago

Well you asking for Floyd while offering 3 nobody minor leaguers is just as silly. Peavy is out until mid-May at the earliest. Sale hasn’t started at the major league level. That leaves us with 4 starters (Buehrle, Danks, Floyd, Jackson). Why would we trade anyone of them for your low level minor leaguers when the White Sox are a lot closer to playoff competition than the Pirates?

SteelCityResident13
4 years 9 months ago

R U STUPID!!!??? COME ON MANNNNN! Cutch isnt going anywhere for that garbage

pirateswillwinin2013
4 years 9 months ago

lol how bout G.I Jones and a pitching prospect for Floyd?

pirateswillwinin2013
4 years 9 months ago

Garret Jones and Justin Wilson to White Sox for Gavin Floyd makes sense

pirateswillwinin2013
4 years 9 months ago

pirates might have to throw in another prospect though

the_virginia_gentleman
4 years 9 months ago

I think the Sox would want more Major League pieces. Neil Walker would be a good starting point. And no you aren’t getting Cutch or Pedro, guys.

Joey Doughnuts
4 years 9 months ago

Just the fact that Gavin Floyd is available and making other teams salivate is another testament to just how great Don Cooper has done with our staff over the years. Gavin Floyd came to the Sox in a trade for Freddy Garcia who was coming off a pretty bad year. Floyd was a “failed prospect” in Philly. With a little Coop-Magic, Gavin is now being talked about netting some premier hitters in baseball. Amazing.

4 years 9 months ago

In Coop We Trust.

baumer16
4 years 9 months ago

Floyd for Fielder. Its going to happen. Kenny already inquired last year but we wanted more than just Hudson.

baumer16
4 years 9 months ago

Floyd for Prince, its gotta happen. Kenny inquired last year but we wanted more than just Hudson

Antonio Nicarelli
4 years 9 months ago

I would not do Floyd straight up for Fielder. I like Big Cecil, but the one year rental turns me off – and Kenny doesn’t usually do them, either. Now Braun – as a WSox fan I would throw in some extras like Danks or Mitchell for him. Or, I would give EJackson and either low prospects or eat 2011 $$$ for Fielder.

Antonio Nicarelli
4 years 9 months ago

JORDAN Danks, that is.

baumer16
4 years 9 months ago

No way the Brewers would take EJackson for Prince. And no way Braun will be traded. Franchise player who makes less then 10 mil a year for the next four years. His contract is way to good to trade. I still think Floyd for Prince happens. We will see

Guest
4 years 9 months ago

Agreed. Braun’s value is one of the highest in baseball.

Antonio Nicarelli
4 years 9 months ago

So if Braun is the franchise, that puts Fielder in the proper light as a “Robin” to a “Batman.”

nymets4581
4 years 9 months ago

Fielder for Floyd doesn’t make much sense for the brewers though. I agree about Braun but not about fielder

baumer16
4 years 9 months ago

Well Melvin waited way too long to trade Prince. Unfortunately Prince doesnt have a ton of value right now. Whoever gets him will only get him for one year and he had a down year last year. Still good for many standards. Nobody wants a rental. Maybe I’m wrong but I just dont see a lot of teams jumping at Fielder and giving the farm for him

SteelCityResident13
4 years 9 months ago

Doumit, Jones, LaRoche(or Young)…. FOR ….. Floyd, Beckham???

#1 pitcher to the Bucs and an entire new infield….

Walker 3b, Cedeno SS (for now), Beckham 2b, Alvarez 1b…. Yup!!!

4 years 9 months ago

We wouldn’t give up Beckham for Halladay. Why do we want your garbage?

SteelCityResident13
4 years 9 months ago

plus, beckham is on the block

4 years 9 months ago

If he’s on the block, we’ll accept the first garbage offer of 30 year old replacement players.

4 years 9 months ago

I’m going to borrow something from you.

R U STUPID!!!??? COME ON MANNNNN! Becks isnt going anywhere for that garbage

DempseyK
4 years 9 months ago

I dont see that as being realistic to be honest, the Pirates would need to make a better package for Floyd by himself; let alone for both he and Beckham.

However I could see something like this:

Pirates Send: Andy Laroche, Ryan Doumit, Robbie Grossman, and then Pick One of the following pitchers (Michael Crotta//Zack Von Rosenberg/Colton Cain)

Sox Send : Gavin Floyd

4 years 9 months ago

Is anyone you offered a major league level LEFT handed power hitter? No. NEXT! Thanks for being more reasonable than SteelCity13 though.

DempseyK
4 years 9 months ago

If you DH him, Ryan Doumit is. Also, Im sure Garret Jones isnt out of the question.

DempseyK
4 years 9 months ago

I would even be willing to consider Jones, LaRoche, Crotta and Cain/or Rosenberg. Surely thats not far off.

4 years 9 months ago

Please stop, you’re embarrassing yourself. Jones and LaRoche are busts and past the growth ages. If you want a major league pitcher for minor leaguers, go work on teams that are already out of contention..like the Royals, Mariners, Diamondbacks, and oh, Pirates.

derekbellstutu
4 years 9 months ago

The Pirates shouldn’t deal McCutchen or Alvarez and the White Sox don’t want LaRoche or Doumit, so let’s get those guys out of the discussion. The Pirates should start by offering Joel Hanrahan, Justin Wilson, and a lower minor leaguer for Floyd and go from there.

4 years 9 months ago

And the White Sox are in contention (I would like to believe), so we don’t want low minor leaguers for Floyd. Let’s just agree that there won’t be a trade that makes sense between our teams.

4 years 9 months ago

The last thing anyone wants to do is DH a catcher not named Mauer, and 10-15 HRs hardly labels someone as a power hitter. Even Victor Martinez at DH is a downgrade. And Garret Jones is out of the question from the White Sox side. We already have Carlos Quentin as our low average power hitter.

4 years 9 months ago

Too bad you can’t get someone like Mauer or Martinez (That’s not even remotely imaginable), besides Doumit is only good with the bat and would definitely be a solid DH for someone like the White Sox. He could hit 20 HR’s and have a BA of .260 which isn’t too bad imo.

4 years 9 months ago

20 HRs and a .260 BA is awful for a DH. We wouldn’t need Mauer or V-Mart because we wouldn’t put a CATCHER at DH.

Again, 20 HRs is probably Doumits ceiling, since he never hit more than 15. 20 HRs should be the minimum for a DH. Use some logic people.

Guest
4 years 9 months ago

“20 HRs should be the minimum for a DH. Use some logic people.”

We are talking about the Sox’ DH?

4 years 9 months ago

“””Full time DH”””” I triple quoted for your benefit.

Yes our DH rotation last year failed. The players we currently have are more than capable of failing themselves. We don’t need to give up valuable assets in a trade for other team’s failures.

Antonio Nicarelli
4 years 9 months ago

mg, we (Sox) do have an alternate direction. If we trade him for a lower level starter, a starting CF (we can shift Rios to RF and CQ to DH), and then the high prospects our system needs. Then we can use our saved $$$ for the power lefty we need.

4 years 9 months ago

Ok, and where in these Pirate offers is there a low end starter and CF? Doumit is a reasonable replacement for AJ, but not somebody who is so much better than giving a shot to Tyler Flowers. Jones is a near 30 1B/RF who had a decent rookie half season and then regressed last year. LaRoche is just embarrassing. 27, .206 average, no plate discipline, no power, how does anyone think he has any value left?

DempseyK
4 years 9 months ago

Gavin Floyd is Gavin Floyd…no more, no less.

As a DH, Doumit would easily be a .275 25 hr guy. The issue is he cant stay healthy catching. If he isnt hurt, he is a fantastic hitter. Unfortunately we dont play in the american league and cant utilize him.

Secondly, Jones is under team control for peanuts for the next 4 seasons, and is still a 20 + HR platoon bat.

And the other pitchers I named have just as much, if not more pedigree than Floyd. (Well, not Michael Crotta)

Floyd is most appealing because he is capable and has a team friendly contract, not because he is Halladay or Lee.

The only reason Fielder is even being mentioned here is because Princes value is as low as its been in 2 yrs because of Bob Melvins mismanagement of the scenario.

4 years 9 months ago

I never said Gavin Floyd was a good pitcher. He is Jon Garland in his prime at a cheaper price tag. Still, I would much rather have a reliable 200 inning eater that can provide a 4.00 ERA rather than a catcher who has never hit more than 15 HRs in his career. A 10 HR improvement is probably his ceiling. Unfortunately, 25 HRs for a full time DH should be the floor. You either sign/trade for a legit DH or you plug in your own garbage into the spot. You don’t trade for garbage, what’s the point?

Secondly, don’t try to sell me why your players are awesome and my players are worthless, sell that to the front office. I’m fully aware Gavin isn’t Halladay or Lee and that he’s a cost controlled average pitcher in his prime. Are you ready to admit your players suck as well? (I think they suck more but I’m not going to ask you to admit that)

Antonio Nicarelli
4 years 9 months ago

I was by no means endorsing the Pirate proposals by Devern or Dempsey. I am just saying a trade can accomplish our improvement without landing the lefty power bat – which I agree whole heartedly that we need.

shysox
4 years 9 months ago

Not to be a jerk or anything, but Doumit is just an average catcher and Andy Laroche is garbage. I’m not aware of the farm system much, but those guys don’t have any experience above AA.

A trade i would do with the Marlins would be
Gavin Floyd and Dayan Viciedo for Pedro Alvarez
Gavin Floyd and Jordan Danks for Jose Tabata
Gavin Floyd for Joel Hanrahan and Garrett Jones.

Antonio Nicarelli
4 years 9 months ago

Alvarez projects to be a power hitting 3B with a fair number of strike outs and less than avg defense. In other words, he IS Dayan Viciedo. Why would I give up a 4.5 WAR pitcher and a rookie for just the same rookie back?