Albert Pujols Rumors: Monday

Albert Pujols has given the Cardinals a deadline. If the sides don't agree to an extension by Wednesday, the powerful first baseman will hit free agency after the season. That possibility appears increasingly likely these days; Pujols turned down an extension from the Cardinals about two weeks ago and his agent has since told other teams that the Cardinals have "no chance" of locking Pujols up. Here's the latest, with the most recent updates up top:

  • One competing baseball executive believes that the Cubs will offer Pujols the Alex Rodriguez deal, meaning $27.5MM per year over ten years, tweets Jon Heyman of SI.
  • Cardinals GM John Mozeliak told Goold that he'd  "like to have a term sheet" completed by Wednesday's deadline (Twitter link). Presumably that means the Cardinals would be happy to agree to terms with Pujols, even if the contractual language gets finalized later.
  • Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports the precise time of the deadline (on Twitter). The Cardinals asked to shift the deadline to 12pm EDT on Wednesday so as not to interfere with Stan Musial, who will receive the Presidential Medal of Freedom at the White House tomorrow. Pujols agreed to the new deadline.


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121 Comments on "Albert Pujols Rumors: Monday"


4 years 6 months ago

wow, that’s mighty big of him….

Crackis4lovers
4 years 6 months ago

I imagine you could hear his eyes rolling in Scandanavia when they asked that.

Ben_Cherington
4 years 6 months ago

Pujols is handicapping the team…and I love Pujols. If he doesnt sign the extension, then at least let the cardinals trade you and get a key peice or two to show St. Louis you still care for their team.

If he plays the season they will get a whopping 2 picks for Pujols…miserable!

Anthony1960
4 years 6 months ago

He must be a idiot! The Red Sox are all set at First base and so are the Yankees, Those were the only two teams that could have drove up his worth.

Jiujitsu411420
4 years 6 months ago

The Angels,Mets,Dodgers,Orioles,Nationals,Cubs and a few other teams would beg to differ. I think everyone will be surprised to see how many teams will line up to bid on a player of Pujols caliber.

jpatlee
4 years 6 months ago

Hahahaha!

Redbirds16
4 years 6 months ago

I’d scratch the orioles off that list based on their GM’s comments recently. And the Mets due to their financial difficulties. Dodgers have some difficulties as well. The Nats need pitching.

The Angels, Cubs, and Cardinals would be the highest bidders on Pujols… probably in that order.

Jiujitsu411420
4 years 6 months ago

The Angels,Mets,Dodgers,Orioles,Nationals,Cubs and a few other teams would beg to differ. I think everyone will be surprised to see how many teams will line up to bid on a player of Pujols caliber.

jpatlee
4 years 6 months ago

Hahahaha!

Jiujitsu411420
4 years 6 months ago

The Angels,Mets,Dodgers,Orioles,Nationals,Cubs and a few other teams would beg to differ. I think everyone will be surprised to see how many teams will line up to bid on a player of Pujols caliber.

jpatlee
4 years 6 months ago

Hahahaha!

Crackis4lovers
4 years 6 months ago

This is my favorite post of yours in the thread.

Jiujitsu411420
4 years 6 months ago

The Angels,Mets,Dodgers,Orioles,Nationals,Cubs and a few other teams would beg to differ. I think everyone will be surprised to see how many teams will line up to bid on a player of Pujols caliber.

4 years 6 months ago

You know, i think the angels, mets, dodgers, orioles, nationals and cubs would beg to differ

4 years 6 months ago

I think you are overlooking the fact that the Cubs signed Pena for 1/yr 10mil at first this year. They also have, expiring contracts in Fukudome (13.5M), Ramirez (14.6M), and Byrd (6.5M) thats 44.6 Mil coming off the books. They have in-house replacements for the outfield in Colvin and Brett Jackson (minors) as well as Josh Vitters (minors) at 3rd. The cubs could easily offer 30+ Mil/yr for the first baseman!

4 years 6 months ago

The cubs might be able to afford him, but he says he wants to win. So I dont think that he will be wearing a cubs uniform next year.

4 years 6 months ago

What would be the ultimate accomplishment for the supposed best player of this generation? …Say maybe ending a long standing championship drought? Just a thought.

woadude
4 years 6 months ago

Ok, 30 million falls off for ONE year how about the other 9 years?

jayrig5
4 years 6 months ago

…? The payroll commitments are only going down. I actually think Ramirez will be back, but even with him back, Pena, Kosuke, Silva, and Grabow combine to take like $34 million off. I’d bet heavily against any coming back. They’ll spend money somewhere. I’m sure Pujols alone would be worth more wins than those 4 combined. I’m not saying it will happen or anything, but the dealbreaker won’t be the Cubs budget constraints. It will be whether the Cardinals step up their offer.

4 years 6 months ago

The Jays should be added to this list. 140-150 in allowable payroll, under 25 committed beyond this season, and a rays like combination of young pitching and hitting prospects make for an attractive long-term destination. Plus it’s not liek their set at first.

4 years 6 months ago

he already stated that he would reject any trades so stuck on that one

Ben_Cherington
4 years 6 months ago

I know what he said…Im just saying he should to show love for the fans and city of St. Louis. At least they will get more in return compared to the draft compensation.

4 years 6 months ago

Hasnt he “given” the fans and city enough over the last several years? I mean he has been paid well under his fair market value his entire contract. He has made your mediocre teams good, its funny to see fans turn so quickly and it becomes “what can we get out of him now” …the cards would simply be foolish not to give him the richest contract in baseball, because at the end of the year someone else will!

Ben_Cherington
4 years 6 months ago

Point taken. And trust me, they are not my favorite team but do watch them a few times a year. And I could care less where he signs! I just think if he knows he isnt coming back to atleast let the cards trade him and get something in return. The cards also did a lot for pujols as well, drafted and developed him!

My point is, it would be a nice parting gesture.

4 years 6 months ago

He and his agent accepted the deal that ultimately paid him well under market value for the length of the deal. This is a business. If they thought it wasn’t a good deal, they shouldn’t have signed it.

If he wants to get paid based on past performance, fine. At the end of each season where he has OBP above .400 35+ HRs 100 Runs and 110 RBIs, pay him 32M. .375 30HR 90R 100RBI 27M and so on, declining to a minimum of his current 16M. Throw in incentives for career HRs, Runs, RBIs.

But he and his reps would never go for this.

dethonthestairs
4 years 6 months ago

Nor would Major League Baseball.

4 years 6 months ago

Are you talking about the 100 million dollar deal the Cards gave Albert before he hit arbitration? The one where they gave him 100 million after 3 years of service time? That’s the one where HE “gave” the fans and city enough? I’d be careful about calling anyone else foolish.

imanage
4 years 6 months ago

It’s a positive sign that the two sides agreed on something. It could have been a lot worse. Pushing the deadline back is better than throwing up his hands and saying “there is no point in doing that.”

stl_cards16
4 years 6 months ago

So the team has asked to move the deadline back, not because there is still a chance we get this thing done, but so Stan the Man (a true Cardinal) can get his award. While that is all fine. It’s obvious the reports are true and there is no deal even close. This is going to be a long season. I can already see this is going to be a huge distraction. I have a bad feeling this is going to hurt the team and this year will not turn out well. Time for a new era in St. Louis for 2012. TLR and Pujols will be gone.

4 years 6 months ago

I was very optimistic all year last year but that optimism is running thin :(

1Tough9
4 years 6 months ago

They pushed it back because the deal will be announced and they do not want a double news day where Pujols trumps the honoring of another Cardinal legend.

stl_cards16
4 years 6 months ago

Well…..I guess we can all hope. But I’d give that about a .8% chance.

Crackis4lovers
4 years 6 months ago

They’re going to announce a deal, but his agent is telling people they have “no chance?” That doesn’t seem to add up to much more than wishcasting.

imanage
4 years 6 months ago

Dare we dream???

daveineg
4 years 6 months ago

Cardinal fans in general, once they get over the initial shock, are smart enough to know that in this day and age, that very few players spend their entire career with one team. They will have had Pujols for 11 very productive seasons. That’s a pretty good run these days and it’s still possible he’ll find out that the offers on the table after the season aren’t much better and will come back to St. Louis.

I don’t buy the distraction stuff. That’s just a built in excuse. If the Cardinals don’t win it this year, it’s because they aren’t good enough. All teams have distractions. Milwaukee has Fielder and possibly Weeks on the final years too. They aren’t worried about distractions.

not_brooks
4 years 6 months ago

“…it’s still possible he’ll find out that the offers on the table after the season aren’t much better and will come back to St. Louis.”

Good thought. First off, I find it hard to believe that Seattle or Baltimore or Washington or one of the other teams lacking a long-term option at first base would be willing to offer an A-Rod type contract.

Second, I find it hard to believe that Pujols would want to play for any of those teams over St. Louis.

Looking at A-Rod’s current 10-year deal, anyone can see that the Yanks are already starting to feel the beginning effects of an aging slugger (A-Rod has averaged 133 games played over the past three seasons), and A-Rod is only two years older than Pujols.

I’ll applaud the Cards if they stand pat where ever they are, which, I’m assuming, is somewhere in the area of 7/$210 with a couple of options. Not many teams can afford to gamble 10 guaranteed years at $30MM on any one player, even if that player is one of the five or ten best hitters of all time.

And like daveineg alluded to, I wouldn’t be surprised if Pujols isn’t satisfied with offers from inferior teams and ends up back in St. Louis anyway.

4 years 6 months ago

well the Cubs did only give Pena a 10 Mil/1yr deal which opens up first base for them next year, as well they have about another 30+ Mil coming off the books with fukudome and ramirez’s contracts both expiring. So if you dont think there is a team besides the Yankees or Red Sox that can offer him 30+ mil a year your sadly mistaken. Dont be shocked if Rikketts empty’s the bank on the rivals 1st baseman!

not_brooks
4 years 6 months ago

I never said that there wasn’t a team out there that could offer $30MM. I said I don’t expect any team to do so.

Think about this: Who’s going to be in more demand for teams that don’t have a virtually limitless payroll? A 32-year-old Pujols looking for 10 years at $30MM per or a 28-year-old Prince Fielder, who’s going to be on the back burner and probably won’t get much more than six years while topping out at $25MM per?

I get that Pujols is a once-in-a-generation player, but a once-in-a-generation player tends to price himself into a once-in-a-generation market. And considering the teams that already have a long-term option at first base, that market may not be there if Pujols tries to test it.

imanage
4 years 6 months ago

And all AP will have to do to satisfy Wrigleyville is play RF, 3rd, and 1st for $30+ million a year.

4 years 6 months ago

The Cubs could do with out Fukadome this year as Colvin is a much better outfielder and proven to be more consistent at the plate. They also have Brett Jackson who could be ready for the move up sometime this year. Josh Vitters the 07 1st round pick should also be close to ready this year. The cubs have the in-house replacements for 3rd and the outfield! So “AP” would only play 1st for 30+ M/yr. :)

Redbirds16
4 years 6 months ago

And those prospects would have to produce, and Soriano would have to regain his form, and Zambrano would have to regain his composure (what he had in the first place that is) and Garza would have to step up big in the NL and….

A lot of things would have to go right for the Cubs for them to be a serious contender even with the addition of Pujols. They’re not really close yet, although they are moving in the right direction. I’d wait another 6 months before I declare the Cubs a legit suitor for Pujols. Right now they certainly have the potential, but people talk about them as if they’re a lock, which they certainly are not.

4 years 6 months ago

I agree to an extent and by no means think the Cubs are a lock, if anyones a lock it still has to be the Cards. I’m simply saying the Cubs have the talented prospects to fill expiring contracts in the OF and 3rd which would free up plenty of cash to offer an Arod type deal. …I don’t see Soriano ever regaining his form, Garza should be much better in the NL central then he was in the AL east, Zambrano ended last year 8-1 so i’d say he has regained his composure it just needs to carry over

imanage
4 years 6 months ago

MIke, #5 has accomplished much on an individual and backed in to a WS Ring already. He says winning championships is at the top of his list. To that point, do you really think he wants to surround himself with rookies, albeit highly regarded rookies? He has seen several of those come and flame out in his decade in the bigs.

4 years 6 months ago

Another Cub fan who already knows this year is fourth place at best and is “waiting for next year”……when Albert doesn’t sign with them and they suck again.

Crackis4lovers
4 years 6 months ago

I don’t know why people keep counting out the Nationals and Orioles. Or ANY team for that matter. This isn’t a top free agent of an offseason. It’s the best player in many generations. Everyone will be interested and many will be willing to pay him what he wants.

not_brooks
4 years 6 months ago

See my response to Mike above…

Crackis4lovers
4 years 6 months ago

It’s very well thought out, I just happen to disagree. He may not get $300 million but I’d be very, VERY surprised if he didn’t sign the richest contract in history. He’s flat out better than ARod was when he signed his deal.

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

but its albert pujols he doesnt have to pick money or winning

he can pick both.. so unless teams like the nats and o’s can show there is something there. I doubt he leaves st.louis to go play for a team not ready to contend.

dethonthestairs
4 years 6 months ago

The Orioles and Nats could be very good very quickly.

RedSoxDynasty
4 years 6 months ago

If Pujols could carry that awful last Cards team to a title, then he can do the same with the Cubs or Nats too! That team was barely .500 club w/Albert!

Crackis4lovers
4 years 6 months ago

Also, A-Rod has been playing for a number of years more than Albert, being that he broke into the majors as a teenager (some would say he hasn’t much matured beyond that either). Arod has a lot more mileage on his body at the same age.

stl_cards16
4 years 6 months ago

Yes because we see how those are the same. Do you see “Rickie Weeks Rumors Monday”?

It’s not an excuse, it’s something that needs to be dealt with. But the way this team handled adversity last year, I don’t have much confidence they will handle this any better. Every team has to deal with distractions, I just don’t think this is going to turn out well.

safari_punch
4 years 6 months ago

I bet you anything Pujols is buddies with Derek Jeter.

This has Jeter all over it.

jamesws6
4 years 6 months ago

This Cubs fan grin is gettin’ bigger and bigger.

4 years 6 months ago

Wait til your season starts, that will clear right up.

jamesws6
4 years 6 months ago

We shall see………………………..

Gjf29
4 years 6 months ago

Washington will offer Pujols 200+ easily. They are actively looking for ways to waste their money for a franchise type player. I really feel like St Louis is low balling Albert at this point with a 6 yr 150 mil dollar offer. I understand that this is alot of money to all of us, but its not market value for Albert. You can thank the Yankees for all of this nonsense, since they gave into ARod ridiculous demands. They will regret that one starting this year.

The_BiRDS
4 years 6 months ago

Was that really the Cardinals offer?

Gjf29
4 years 6 months ago

Not the money but it has been reported that the cards wont go over 6-7 years. Dollar amount has not been reported.

The_BiRDS
4 years 6 months ago

oh good, I hope they would past Howard’s yearly

fasfsfadfaa
4 years 6 months ago

you are wrong. both St. Louis & Pujols have agreed not to discuss the negotiations publically. NO ONE KNOWS!

The_BiRDS
4 years 6 months ago

The Cardinals never said they wouldnt go past 6-7. They reported that they didnt want to do 10 and thats it. Dont know where you got that info but its false.

Brad426
4 years 6 months ago

Here’s a thought… just because Pujols issued this deadline doesn’t necessarily mean all talks will stop after ST starts. I know the whole “I don’t want this to be a distraction” cliche, but I believe he wants to stay in St. Louis and that an extention will get done before the end of the season. And I’m not even a Cards fan.

jhawk90
4 years 6 months ago

It’s a shame it has to go down like this. Look as recently as Mauer – Yahoo “reports” he set a deadline, he flatly denies it, deal gets done before the season starts. How have the Cards so greatly wronged Pujols that he goes down this road? By paying him 100 mil so far? Shame.

$1639238
4 years 6 months ago

Screw it. Canseco wants to make a comeback, right? That would be at least as entertaining as Pujols.

The_BiRDS
4 years 6 months ago

Dan Lozano = Jerry Maguire

Martin M.
4 years 6 months ago

New York Mets is the place to be, Alberto!

Chuck345
4 years 6 months ago

lol

syphercx
4 years 6 months ago

I am a Cardinal fantatic and want AP to stay with the Cardinals as much as anybody, but if the Cubs want to pay a 40 year old 30 million a year; then let them.

FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
4 years 6 months ago

Fantatic!

4 years 6 months ago

I think if the cardinals show that they can win with Albert Pujols and make it to the playoffs the cardinal GM will give Albert what he wants in contract. Maybe not a 10 year deal, but a 9 yr deal sounds about right. The bottom line is though if Cards are winning, it makes it that much more likely he will resign with the team. If the Cardinals are losing with Albert, I say there is no chance he re-signs as a cardinal.

4 years 6 months ago

I’ll be extremely interested in what the Cardinals final offer was. If it’s $30MM a year for 7 years and Albert turned it down, I think that makes Albert the villain in St. Louis. If the Cardinals offered less than that with the same amount of years, ownership becomes the villain. Either way, there will be a villain and the fans will not be happy!

CommissionerBart
4 years 6 months ago

One of if not the best player in baseball. But no one is worth 10 years at $30 million per. Moreover, the surprising attitude he has demonstrated toward the Cards and fans of St. Louis weakens his case.

Just how much money does one man and his immediate family need?

I’m all for some sort of slotting or a salary cap of some sort. The salaries I’ve seen agreed to this off-season are an outrage, particularly while our nation is suffering the second-greatest economic crisis of all time and many normal citizens and their famiilies are living on the edge.

I’ve loved baseball dearly all my life but either the owners (who are by no means heroes) have to show discipline or the fans should endure a strike/lockout in baseball for a couple years until some sense of sanity about salaries–drastic reductions–are achieved.

mantistoboggan47
4 years 6 months ago

People like you make me sick. What business is it of yours how much money this man needs or deserves? Do doctors and investment bankers make a bit too much money for your liking? Perhaps we should limit their pay as well… back to gulag, commieBart.

Holidayjesus
4 years 6 months ago

Okay making 20-30m a year is SICK. People WONDER why our country is in debt. THE MONEY IS SITTING IN THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS JUST SITTING THERE.

stl_cards16
4 years 6 months ago

What’s not in their bank accounts is in the owners. No one forces you or I or anyone else, to spend our money to watch these guys. But we do, and as long as we do, the contracts will get larger.

start_wearing_purple
start_wearing_purple
4 years 6 months ago

We’re in debt because of a handful of guys who are in the entertainment industry? Not because of years of a runaway military budget? Not because of constant tax cuts to the wealthy? Yeah, it must be because of a handful of guys who play a game.

ubercubsfan
4 years 6 months ago

You have to have a strong active military. What needs to happen is government spending needs to be cut on freebie stuff. P.S. The wealthy are the ones that spend their money creating more jobs for others. I’ve never seen a poor man give a job to someone…

start_wearing_purple
start_wearing_purple
4 years 6 months ago

Something tells me you and I would have a screaming match if we talked politics for an extended period.

ubercubsfan
4 years 6 months ago

Probably, being I grew up poor and I that don’t feel like I’m entitled to things I haven’t earned. I’d say a lot of what’s wrong with this country is done in goodwill thinking they are helping others where as they are really hurting them and masking the fact that they rely on free stuff.

start_wearing_purple
start_wearing_purple
4 years 6 months ago

Again I think if we went into specifics we might be both banned from this site. We might have some common ground, but I’m not sure where it is.

ubercubsfan
4 years 6 months ago

That the Cubs are awesome!

start_wearing_purple
start_wearing_purple
4 years 6 months ago

Cubs suck. Go Cards! 😉

ubercubsfan
4 years 6 months ago

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!

stl_cards16
4 years 6 months ago

So you would rather the owners pocket the money instead of giving a good portion of it to the players that people actually pay to see?

Don’t get me wrong, they are all overpaid. But I would much rather see the players earn the money than the owners just pocketing it.