Quick Hits: Vlad, Pujols, Cabrera

Here are a few items of note for Feb. 17, the day on which Wally Pipp was born 118 years ago.

  • The Orioles will hold a press conference for Vladimir Guerrero on Friday, tweets Enrique Rojas of ESPNDeportes.com, so it's safe to assume that he passed his physical earlier this week and that his one-year deal is now official.
  • The Cardinals at some point offered Albert Pujols a nine-year contract extension worth more than $200MM, tweets Jon Heyman of SI.com. To this point, the value of St. Louis' offer has been consistently around the $200MM range, but the length has been less clear.
  • Tigers slugger Miguel Cabrera, arrested in Florida late Wednesday night and charged with DUI and resisting arrest, will not likely face jail time, writes Jon Paul Morosi of FOXSports.com, who spoke to a "leading criminal defense attorney." Whether Cabrera will enter a treatment program at this time remains unclear, Morosi notes.


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  1. jordan 4 years ago

    if STL really offered him that much, and AP wanted to stay….. he is becoming greedy

    • Brad426 4 years ago

      Well, they are $100M off his asking price. If you thought you deserved a yearly salary of, say, $60K and you got offered $40K would you think you were being greedy if you turned it down?

      • Bad argument, at least where jordan’s point is probably concerned. The difference in scale changes everything. If you thought you deserved 60K and were offered 40K, you might turn it down because 40K isn’t enough for you to live what you considered to be a reasonable lifestyle, depending on the city.

        100 million dollars is enough for a huge number of people to live comfortably, even in the lavish metropolis of Detroit.

        I actually agree with you, Brad426, but the point you’re making never works. Anyway, Pujols is entitled to ask for what he believes he is worth.

        • jordan 4 years ago

          yes i know that, and thats one of the reasons if he gets the 300 MILLION from what ever team it may be, if it turns out to be the yanks/sox/cubs, it shows that there needs to be a salary cap, makes the playing field even for all teams

          • Why a salary cap? Why guarantee profits for poorly-run clubs, and why give a handout to billionaires? There are ideas for evening the playing field a bit that have nothing to do with this one concept that the MLB owners have been hammering away at for decades. You think players are greedy?

          • jordan 4 years ago

            didn’t think of that

          • johnnybmore 4 years ago

            Its not a cap we need, its a salary minimum….force teams like Florida to spend the millions they get from the luxury tax from the big market teams rather than pocket it for profit

          • mlbscout6 4 years ago

            I don’t like the idea of a salary cap either. Players are entitled to go after as much money as they feel they are worth, however, I feel the arbitration system needs change. Salaries should be able to deflate with poor performance. What other profession can you do a terrible job and be guaranteed a raise?!?

          • Brad426 4 years ago

            Government jobs.

          • soxfan13913 4 years ago

            There is already a salary minimum in place.

          • Brad426 4 years ago

            There is a salary minimum for an individual player, not for a team. So technically a team could have a 25 man roster all making the min and have a team salary of $10M.

          • OrangeCards 4 years ago

            Well, that would be a team minimum, wouldn’t it?

          • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

            I had this idea a few months ago. Get rid of revenue sharing. Instead the teams deemed to be “fiscally challenged small market teams” get to franchize a player. Instead of dolling out the money to each team, set up a fund and each year each of those teams get $15 mil to either subsidize their “franchize player” or they get to use half of it towards the draft. So basicanlly if the Padres wanted to keep Agonz they could put the tag on him and pay the rest of his contract demands out of pocket. The one protective against misuse would be a player has to be ranked among the top 5 at his position in order to be eligible for the franchize tag.

            If Fielder wants to stay a Brewer and agrees to a 6/$150 deal ($25 mil per) and he rates among the top 5 at his position via elias ratings or whatever then MLB agrees to give Fielder $15 mil per for 6 years and the Brewers pay $10 mil per out of their own pocket. If he is traded then the mlbs funding ends and that receiving team pays the balance due of the contract as scheduled.

          • GoCubs10 4 years ago

            some are…im a huge cubs fan and i know for sure soriano and even possibly zambrono are greedy…just saying

          • Brad426 4 years ago

            Agreed. Baseball gives the lowest percentage of the revenue generated by its sport to the players than does any of the other big sports (NBA, NFL, NHL, in case you were wondering what the other “big sports” were).

          • soxfan13913 4 years ago

            Really… I love how teams like the Cards complain about salary caps but still have players like say… Holliday. There is no way Pujols will go to the Yanks they have Texeira, and no way he goes to the Sox they now have AGON.

        • Brad426 4 years ago

          I hear you, and to all of us making normal money I realize it’s hard to justify. But normally peoples’ lifestyles bump up right against their salary (i.e. if I got a 50% raise I would not be driving the same car or wearing the same watch or watching the same TV by about a week later). Athletes are just as bad (and quite possibly worse) and the more they make the more they spend.

        • jb226 4 years ago

          “100 million dollars is enough for a huge number of people to live comfortably, even in the lavish metropolis of Detroit. ”

          So is $400,000, the league minimum. In fact, US median HOUSEHOLD (not necessarily single-earner) income is about $50,000, so that’s roughly eight times more. A huge number of people could live comfortably on that.

          The point isn’t how many people could live comfortably on a salary. Its about worth, and that’s relative to the industry. Albert Pujols is worth a heeeeelll of a lot more than $400k. He’s worth more than $100MM too, and at least in his mind he’s worth more than $200MM. That’s not greed, especially in an industry bringing in billions of dollars a year. It’s about what he considers a fair share of money he helps bring to his industry. And more importantly, it takes two to tango — he won’t get a dime more than somebody else agrees he’s worth.

          • Did you read my comment, jb226? I was explaining why Brad426’s argument never works, not why Pujols shouldn’t ask for a certain amount of money. I believe I stated that explicitly.

    • soxfan13913 4 years ago

      It’s Heyman reporting this… I wouldn’t put much stock in it.

  2. Rickli 4 years ago

    Anyone know if Vlads press conference will be on MASN?

  3. I wish I could drive drunk, fight with an officer, then get 0 jail-time.
    I’d be buried under the jail in 5 minutes flat.

    • Crackis4lovers 4 years ago

      This happens all the time. All the time. Pick up a newspaper.

    • Pawsdeep 4 years ago

      You forgot his incredibly wise decision to suck back on a bottle of scotch in front of the officers…that’s what’s killing me…

    • guess they “knew who he was”

  4. Wow, how accurate is PECOTA? Deadly accurate. It has Cabrera down for 2.4 DUI’s this season, with a 35% chance of collapse.

    • Rabbitov 4 years ago

      This really isn’t very funny. I mean I’m all about ribbing players about different things, but the dude has a serious drinking problem. Seriously, couldn’t be in worst taste.

      • Pawsdeep 4 years ago

        Agreed. Any human being, who displays that kind of behavior has some of my pity. He’s go a serious issue and I hope he gets help.

        I’ve advised friends to get help and sent a brother to rehab for much less….

        • Yep, those are fair points. Apologies for offending.

          • Pawsdeep 4 years ago

            It’s all good man–I mean it is a deplorable action and if laughing is how people cope and reason than who am I to judge? I just think we are loosing sight of the fact that this is a human being. He is a father, friend, husband, a person. Not just a ballplayer.

            Like I said–it doesn’t matter who you are. If you display that kind of perturbed behavior then I hope that person gets the help they need. No one should have to suffer, whether it is their own doing or someone elses. We are all the same breed and I truly hope everyone on the face of this earth experiences the joys of lIfe like I have.

  5. RiverKKiller999 4 years ago

    The best thing I like about this is his mug shot. I mean, who else gets drunk as hell and smiles in there mugshot and is happy about going to jail? Props to Cabrera

    • OrangeCards 4 years ago

      Props for getting a DUI? Really?

      • rzepczynski 4 years ago

        drinking and driving is the new possession of cocaine

      • RiverKKiller999 4 years ago

        Wow! Please look up the definition of the word “sarcasm”. I laugh at people that don’t recognize or understand it.

    • Pawsdeep 4 years ago

      It’s the fact that he pounded on a bottle of scotch in front of the cops that’s killing me…

      That’s some pretty deep stuff…I mean, that’s not something someone sane does…his problems are far deeper than we understand.

      • RiverKKiller999 4 years ago

        Yeah, it’ll probably happen again next year,(DUI) but I don’t expect it to affect the team like most people are saying.

        But seriously though, I couldn’t help but laugh at his mugshot with a smile on his face.

  6. northsfbay 4 years ago

    They started the player draft in 1965, because the Yankees could offer higher signing bonuses. You need revenue sharing and a ceiling and a floor. The current system is not fair to fans of small market teams. The small market teams are a farm system for the big market teams.

    • Eh, I hardly buy that. Big market teams are usually filled with old dudes who are way past their prime making too much money. Small market teams don’t spend the money they could be spending to lock up their good players longer and could be just as competitive. Teams don’t make the world series without a strong contingent of home grown players and by the time players get old enough to hit free agency they’re only going to have a few good years left. Those rare players who hit free agency at 27 -9 were the results of teams failing to lock up their player.

      • OrangeCards 4 years ago

        The players reaching 6 years of service time at that age are generally exceptional talents and their teams often can’t afford to keep them and still field a competitive team.

        • j6takish 4 years ago

          Migel Cabrera is only 28 and signed his deal 3 years ago. Wasn’t A-rod a free agent at like age 24?

          • OrangeCards 4 years ago

            Yes, elite talents that their team had no shot of locking them up …

    • To suggest that the draft was created to even the playing field is to obfuscate the truth. The draft was created, perhaps somewhat with a mind to evening the playing field a bit, but mostly to prevent young players from getting a fair price for their services. Like almost everything MLB implements, the idea is to suppress operating costs and try to guarantee big profits for owners.

  7. optionn 4 years ago

    Is Holliday an unmovable contract or does he have a no trade clause? IF they could get rid of him then they could almost certainly afford to pay Big Pimpin Albert his 30 million per year.

  8. anyone think migy is a little older than he says he is? No? me neither, he looks like he’s still 16

  9. The_Silver_Stacker 4 years ago

    Who the hell smiles during their mugshot? lol and it would not surprise me if someone on here has that mugshot as their little picture.

  10. jordan 4 years ago

    collapse under his own weight would apply to Joba the whale and colon

  11. Not sure. His list of comparables includes both Prince Fielder and Hack Wilson, so it’s anyone’s guess.

  12. Jntg4 4 years ago

    salary cap is terrible. The NHL’s ruined the Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks. Now they aren’t even in a playoff seed.

  13. I think enforcing the the rules of the luxury tax, AKA not allowing the red sox to so obviously use a loophole to circumvent it, would be the first step in the right direction.

  14. Brad426 4 years ago

    The only way a salary cap would work is if there was a salary floor as well. The paltry spending some teams do (as a percentage of the income the franchises generate) is embarrassing. The Pirates and the Padres both had team payrolls of under $40M last year. To me that is a bigger problem than any $200M payroll (btw, Braves fan speaking, so please don’t attack me as a Yankee and/or Red Sox fan).

  15. RedSoxDynasty 4 years ago

    Better to keep the luxury tax money through a loophole than to give it to some cheapassed owner of a losing team who pockets it rather than building a winner! In other words, cry me a river!

  16. soxfan13913 4 years ago

    Don’t forget C.C. Sabathia

  17. jmcbosox 4 years ago

    i believe, and i may be incorrect, that in terms of percentages, the padres and marlins were the 2 most profitable teams in baseball last year.

  18. Oh yeah! The daily black and white paper detailing the happenings of the previous day/make me a sandwich stick.
    I thought those were all in the Smithsonian.

  19. Brad426 4 years ago

    Do you mean profitable to the owners? Because with team salaries of less than 1/5 of the Yankees, I’m not surprised. In fairness to the owners, they (as the owners of nearly all businesses) are in it to make money. Somehow the fact that it is sports we are talking about changes our perception of how they should run their businesses. Why should the Pirates owner, for instance, spend any more on personnel if he is making a good profit off the $37 or so million he is sinking into the team as it is?

  20. YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

    Easy to make the most profit when the revenue sharing money you receive is more than what you spend on your 25 man roster. I mean do the Padres have a single player making more than $8 mil?

  21. jmcbosox 4 years ago

    i agree, but if the owners saw an increased payroll as a form of an investment in his company, they may find qute the valuable return. see the detroit tigers, in the early 2000’s they were terrible, couldnt pay fans to go to the games, they vastly improved thru FA and player development and now boast a large payroll satisfying fans. i would guess illitch is making more now than he was then, hopefully someday the other owners will follow the same business practice and invest some money into their teams.

  22. jmcbosox 4 years ago

    ironically, if i remember correctly, the red sox were # 3 on that list

  23. YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

    Because other owners are single handedly paying for their players, the city is paying for the stadium with the tax dollars of it’s citizens and the fans are getting nothing in return for their years of support of the team?

  24. OrangeCards 4 years ago

    I get so tired of hearing this argument as though large market, big spending teams don’t make any profit and are only concerned with winning …

    You don’t invest several hundred million dollars into a ball club to NOT make money. It’s the point.

  25. johnsilver 4 years ago

    Actually, the better way is to just fold teams that continue to stay on the dole for years on end like the Padres, SD, Pirates etc… get the league back to 20 or so teams like it was and with owners that have a CLUE what is going on and know how to run a business. Then again.. one or two big market teams of late seem to have an owner (or two) that have no clue either..

    Edit.. meant to say marlins above rather than SD Padres 2 times.. Apologies.

  26. Brad426 4 years ago

    Good point, but if the fans are tired of the years of losing they should stop supporting the team.

  27. roomwithamoose 4 years ago

    THough I’m not entirely sure of my opinion on this one, the flipside could be why would he want to put a team into a position that they won’t be able to? I mean no matter how profitable a team can be, it does put much resource into one player. If he wants to go to a different team that can pay him, and still field talent around him great. But if he signs with a team without that capability, then it’s his fault for choosing that team over others that could necessarily give him close to what he wants, and field a team around him. An obnoxious double edged sword.

  28. The_Silver_Stacker 4 years ago

    and David Ortiz and Josh Beckett

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