Stark On Nationals, Red Sox, Jay, Phillies

Jayson Werth told ESPN.com's Jayson Stark that he doesn’t hate the Phillies at all and hopes for a warm reception when he returns to Philadelphia for the first time since signing with the division rival Nationals as a free agent. Here’s the latest on Werth's new team plus other rumors from around the league…

  • The Nationals would like to add a veteran to the back of their bullpen.
  • When teams ask about Nationals backstop Wilson Ramos, they’re hearing that the Nats don’t want to deal him because they believe he’s nearly ready to be a regular catcher.
  • The Red Sox have been “quietly poking around” to determine which catchers could become available.
  • The Phillies are looking for an affordable backup outfielder who can play center field and they have targeted Cardinals outfielder Jon Jay.
  • There are no indications that the Phillies plan to deal for a second baseman to replace the injured Chase Utley, however.
  • Though the Mets don’t appear to want Luis Castillo to win the second base job, scouts say he’s their best option by far.
  • The Twins are open to adding relief depth.


111 Responses to Stark On Nationals, Red Sox, Jay, Phillies Leave a Reply

  1. 5_tool_MiLB_fool 4 years ago

    Yes, Jayson Werth. You can safely expect to get a standing ovation from the philly fans. Afterall, you helped lead them to two pennant titles and a world series title. You only took more than 100M to play for a lesser team, anyway.

  2. frank_costanza 4 years ago

    Find it odd that the Phillies want a backup center fielder, considering that Francisco, Mayberry, and Valdez can all play all three OF positions.

  3. rayking 4 years ago

    Even if the Phillies are actually interested in Jay (which I agree with Frank Costanza and don’t buy at all), I don’t see the Cardinals dealing him. The odds of Berkman playing a full season in RF are rather minimal.

    • roebirds 4 years ago

      Plus, the Cards wouldn’t have anyone capable of playing CF if Rasmus needs time off.

    • Stl_Great 4 years ago

      Allen Craig could fill that spot, and I’m sure he could play CF.

      • rayking 4 years ago

        Very true, although my gut feeling is that they will have Craig in AAA again to start the season to get him frequent ABs. I also forgot that TLR’s mantra “anyone can play the outfield” resulted in OF playing time for Tyler Greene…

  4. Stl_Great 4 years ago

    Jon Jay+Salas for Joe Blanton?

    • cardsfan1988 4 years ago

      Why would the Cardinals deal for Blanton? They are already low on funds and what’s the point for the Phillies to deal Blanton if they have to eat most of the salary? The Phillies are looking to cut payroll by trading Blanton and that won’t happen if they deal to the Cards because the Cardinals can’t take on money right now. Not to mention that Blanton isn’t that good and not worth give up an up in coming elite relief pitcher like Salas and let alone giving up Jay at the same time. I don’t get why everyone is trying to get the Cardinals to give away young talent, we are going to it in a few years. The Cards just need to let this year play out and see what happens. Lohse and McCellan are having great springs and the last thing we need is to get roped in on some rumor that we are looking for a starter and have them lose their confidence because they start thinking they will lose their spot in the rotation. I don’t see an addition of Blanton making that much difference for the Cards rotation and I really don’t like the idea for giving up two talented young players like Jay and Salas who are not only good, but CHEAP.

    • cardsfan1988 4 years ago

      Back to my point, Blanton has a career 4.30 ERA…how is that really any better than the numbers that McClellan and Lohse will post?

      • The_BiRDS 4 years ago

        Lohse sucks… I can see McClellan doing well.. the guy worked his ass off for the past 3 years for a starting spot.

    • The_BiRDS 4 years ago

      Why? McClellan is soild right now.. Id wait till the season starts and maybe deal Jay during the break. There really is no reason for the Cards to deal him right now.

  5. so are the Jays getting Emaus back or what?

  6. twins33 4 years ago

    Why relief help? There are only two open spots. Slowey or Baker are taking one (unless traded..probably for relief help which won’t be worth it).

    Then Perkins, Diamond (needs to cut down on walks), Hughes and Neshek are all doing well enough to earn the other open spot. We don’t need more relievers, right now we have too many who are earning it. We’ll see in another week or so if they’re all still doing well, but that’s five guys (one makes the rotation) fighting for two spots.

    • nick1538 4 years ago

      Rumors say that Manship has the inside track on a spot. Probably won’t keep all 3 lefties. I hope they figure out something with Diamond, but unless they figure a trade with Atlanta so they can send him to AAA, I don’t see how they can keep him on the 25-man for the entire season. I am not sure Gardy is sold on Neshek yet…

      • twins33 4 years ago

        I dont mind Manship but the others have been better so far. I feel Diamond could be too good to lose. As for Neshek, I am not sold yet either but he has done well so far.

        • nick1538 4 years ago

          I am hopeful that Neshek can regain some of the magic he had in 2006-8. His funky delivery is what makes him special, so he should be able to get by with a 87 MPH fastball with that nasty sidearm slider.
          I keep hearing that the Twins organization is looking at Manship as a “Matt Guerrier circa 2006-7″ type pitcher. He could pitch 2 innings and then come back the next day and throw another. He even has similar stuff (unimpressive fastball that sets up his slider, curve and change).
          Best case scenario is 1) Anderson fixes Hoey’s control problems and his mid-90s gas can give the Twins BP the much needed power arm they have never had, 2) Mijares takes his new 2-seam fastball and finally achieves his full potential, 3) Joe Nathan is at least 80% of the pitcher he was prior to surgery and 4) the others (Perkins, Hughes, Neshek, Burnett, etc) fill in where needed.

          • twins33 4 years ago

            Neshek’s delivery is why I am not confident. He’s all elbow. TJ surgery pitchers usually have to change their delivery and succeed based on how strong there shoulder gets. Neshek is and always will be all elbow.

            I’ve read that about Manship too. I just don’t see that happening. That’s a lot to live up to as Guerrier was pretty rock solid. Unless I am missing someone he was right behind Nathan in importance to the pen, but that’s my opinion.

            I think Hoey needs AAA time. They’ve got a great pitching coach down there too. I think Mijares turns the corner, gut feeling. And I feel i’ve been the most confident Twins fan about Nathan, at least that I have seen. I feel he will pull a Billy Wagner or as close to it as you can get.

          • nick1538 4 years ago

            I agree completely. Neshek does put a lot of torque on his elbow, so we will see how long that lasts. Manship does have a lot to live up to if “Guerrier-esque” is the goal. Hoey should start at AAA, and I think you are right about Nathan (he is definately determined to get back).

  7. TimotheusATL 4 years ago

    Could be dangerous asking for a warm reception in Philly. Instead of throwing batteries, they might throw blowtorches.

    • Since the playoffs last year, I rarely come across a Phillies fan who says anything good about Jayson Werth, despite leading the team in OPS and games played, and being second in OBP and SLG over the past two years combined.

      I do see this a lot though…..’He’s not clutch!!!!’

      • Bender44 4 years ago

        He wasn’t good with the fans or at least, that was the impression given. In comparison, a player like Pat Burrell who had a very up and down career in Philly (much more so than Werth) is pretty universally well-liked. Why? He was good with the fans and seen as much more “approachable” than Werth was. People will forgive a whole litany of sins if you can do it with a smile.

        Just my opinion anyway.

      • He was the worst in the NL w/batting avg with runners in scoring position. He hit in the damn 5 hole and only had 85 RBIs. Come on man Ibanez, who spent time on the DL, had 84 RBIs hitting 6th or 7th.

        I can promise you that he is going to get booed when he comes to town. The stupid things he has said since he signed in Washington is reason enough. Not even counting how he treated fans when he was here. I may try to get some right field seats to taunt him.

        • Yeah, Werth struggled in that extremely small sample size last year. Doesn’t mean he can’t hit with RISP. If I remember correctly, he didn’t hit nearly as bad in those situations last year and for his career is something like a .260 hitter in them with a .385 OBP.

          How did Ibanez spend time on the DL if he managed to get into 155 games anyway?

      • nick1538 4 years ago

        That works out well since “clutch” situations have been rare in DC.

  8. eponine 4 years ago

    of course werth won’t be getting a warm reception from philly. his comments after the signing were irritating. he kept saying the phillies didn’t do it right and they had the money to sign him. if the phillies chose lee over werth, you can’t blame them. well, unless you’re werth. he kept saying it’s a business. but he won’t stop talking about it. phillies fans have moved on and are thrilled about lee. werth can’t let go. it’s also been reported that werth agreed with wsh gm that he hates the phillies too. link to myfoxphilly.com

  9. eponine 4 years ago

    i just tried to post a comment and it said a moderator had to approve first. did anyone else have this?

    • Curse words, or words resembling curse words seem to spark that most of the time.

      • eponine 4 years ago

        thanks. i didn’t put in any curse words. it’s annoying bec the post was a little lengthy and took a while to write. i put in a link too to a story about werth. the gist was that werth will likely get a mixed reaction. he has repeatedly made sour grapes comments after the signing. he’s upset that people are so happy about lee being chosen over werth. can you blame people? werth has even been reported to say he hates the phillies after the wsh gm said it. the wsh gm has denied this though.

        • leberquesgue 4 years ago

          Wouldn’t surprise me if the link caused the delay. That’s what spammers post.

        • The_BiRDS 4 years ago

          Yeah, it was the link

  10. leberquesgue 4 years ago

    Is the Red Sox’ interest in a catcher simply a question of depth? Or is there some concern about Salty’s ability to be the primary catcher?

    • There’s pretty much universal concern about Salty as a primary catcher for a contender. I pray he fails and the Sox and Yankees are tied just before the deadline, so that Ellsbury/David Ross trade can finally happen.

      • 0bsessions 4 years ago

        David Ross is 33 years old and has been a starter exactly once in his career. Not even close to a feasible trade proposal.

        • leberquesgue 4 years ago

          Um, he was joking. I hope he was wrong about Salty too.

          • Was indeed joking, and I really do wish Salty the best. Incredibly polite, appreciative player. Hopefully he’s just a relatively late bloomer…

    • Pudge will be the BoSox starting catcher by the ASB.

      • Fangaffes 4 years ago

        Fisk?

        • johnsilver 4 years ago

          Absolutely! Bill Lee has been working out with him getting him back into game shape again.. Hasn’t anyone heard this?!? lee will be the lefty out of the pen by the AS end and Fisk catching.

          Instead of them receiving their Social Security and baseball Pension checks, Theo will give them the MLB minimum instead.

        • JacksTigers 4 years ago

          He gave you the name “Pudge” and then you asked if it was Fisk?

          • Fangaffes 4 years ago

            Um, yeah. Fisk is the only Pudge to Red Sox fans. That was the joke.

      • comish4lif 4 years ago

        Who are the Red Sox sending to the Nats in this deal?

  11. iheartyourfart 4 years ago

    “Though the Mets don’t appear to want Luis Castillo to win the second base job, scouts say he’s their best option by far.”

    yep, that sounds like the mets

  12. bigmel 4 years ago

    I’d rather them give Edgardo Alfonso another shot before I see Castillo!!!

  13. The Twins are ALWAYS “open to adding relief depth.” That’s not even news anymore lol.

  14. nick1538 4 years ago

    Rick Anderson, Twins Pitching Coach, has said he wants “a Jesse Crain” for the bullpen. I am assuming he means a “big strikeout guy” that could put out a fire late in the game. Unless that is the type of “depth” this report is referring to, I don’t see them adding someone. The only guy they have that fits that bill is Jim Hoey, but he is eratic.

  15. The Red Sox should trade Navarro or Lowrie to the Mets or Phillies for somebody promising. I know Cameron is going to have a good year if he’s healthy, but I think that the Red Sox should trade him too before he goes down with another injury. We can lean on McDonald and Nava as the backups who give Drew a break once a week. BTW Kalish will be a 20/20 player for the Red Sox next year, .288 22 86 and 25 sb… can’t wait for Drew to be gone.

    • johnsilver 4 years ago

      Philly doesn’t have a person to fill a hole that Boston needs worthy of Lowrie. He is far to useful as a super utility, or starting SS to move IMO. If Boston can somehow move Scutaro and his salary, or maybe Navaro.. Fine, but not the very useful Lowrie.

  16. hawkny1 4 years ago

    Salty is in good hands, in Boston. As long as he remains healthy, he will be the BoSox #1 catcher, with Veritek backing him up…and serving as his personal coach…
    The RedSox front office want to have a 3rd catcher, with major league credentials, available in the event either Jason or Jarrod injure themselves…

    • Lunchbox45 4 years ago

      I’m sure they would love the opportunity to improve that position if the chance arouse

      • GoAwayNow 4 years ago

        I hope Theo isn’t getting aroused by potential trades…

  17. Holliday hits the market in 2016.

  18. Stl_Great 4 years ago

    What?

  19. And where the hell are they going to fit his huge contract if you are thinking of a trade for him?

  20. MaineSox 4 years ago

    Right after he punches his GM in the face I suppose.

  21. iheartyourfart 4 years ago

    jayson werth is to good looking as snooki is to sobriety

  22. Looks like a Werth fan is upset that he read a bit of the truth. Werth, Boras, & Rizzo all deserve one another.

  23. The_BiRDS 4 years ago

    I love how Philly fans bash every single player who leaves their organization.

    I might just go up to Philly this year and wear a Joe Carter jersey. You guys are always looking for a reason to boo.

  24. Do you live here? If not shut up as you really sound like an idiot. Players who embrace the city are loved. Ignore it or get bothered by fan attention and you will not be liked, at all. Mitch Williams was so hated after the 1993 World Series. Because of things he said and his attitude it was quickly forgotten. Mitch was a man about giving up the Joe Carter HR and we loved him for it. This city cannot stand Scott Rolen as he handled his time here like a child. I still boo him when he comes to town.

    If Philly was so bad ex players wouldn’t move here after they retire right? You would be amazed at the ex players still in the area. They are treated like gods.

  25. Money talks, looks do not.

  26. in the face.. IN THE FACE!!! HAHAHAHA

  27. The_BiRDS 4 years ago

    Probably because Philly fans, such as yourself, act like this.

  28. ejr 4 years ago

    there’s a BIG difference between hating the organization and hating the city/fans/players. There’s no information out there suggesting he has issues with the team and city. Even the rumors about his feelings re: the organization are just rumors (his quotes are pretty benign, though I agree that he shouldn’t’ve commented about the Lee signing. Personally, i still don’t see how the team would sign Werth & Lee. He probably got jerked around by Amaro & Co. because they didn’t want to resign him. but I don’t think he deserves to get boo’d.

  29. cscd1111 4 years ago

    That right if people don’t like it stay out of Philadelphia…..

  30. East Coast Bias 4 years ago

    Most of the links we delete are people promoting their blog, or spamming. We actually approve a large majority of the links.

  31. East Coast Bias 4 years ago

    No offense, but with the exception of maybe Cliff Lee, I don’t think anyone’s dying to go to Philadelphia in the first place.

  32. cscd1111 4 years ago

    Sorry to disagree however Roy Halladay waved a no trade clause at the trade deadline two years ago to came to the Phillies and signed for a lot less money then he would have if he became a free agent.Roy Oswalt waved his no trade last july to play for this team. IMO the reason the Phillies continue get these players one they have a great chance to win championship. two add the fact they are playing in front of the best fans in all of MLB that sell out each and every game. Put it this way every game is like a play off game. Sure not every player wants that only the great ones. And IMO great is not Jayson Werth.

  33. eponine 4 years ago

    werth seemed like he was dying to stay, just wanted the money too.

  34. ejr 4 years ago

    well, not EVERYONE. Curt Schilling is still loved in Philly. Mitch Williams blew the world series and the only guy that hates him anymore is Lenny Dykstra. the people who get the worst receptions are the ones who openly hated playing in philly — Scott Rolen. JD Drew (just cuz he turned it down). Terrell Owens. etc

    i think it’s stupid that people are going to boo Werth. He went for tons of money. good for him. I don’t think he should comment about the Phillies signing Lee, but that’s not enough to boo the guy. I’m going to clap for him — he was a good player.

  35. East Coast Bias 4 years ago

    Hey man, I’ll be the first (maybe second, after Free_AEC) that Philly is a strong team with championship potential for years!

    But I’m talking about the city itself…

  36. East Coast Bias 4 years ago

    You’re like a broken record with that thing, man! I think (hope?) everyone knows he’s the highest paid pitcher by now…

  37. East Coast Bias 4 years ago

    No no, that’s New Jersey. It stinks. And most people take the subway in Manhattan so traffic isn’t much of a concern unless you’re a tourist. And in the outer boroughs, where you need a car to get by, traffic is not bad at all.

  38. johnsilver 4 years ago

    That record may just last until Sabathia opts out of his existing Yankee mega contract and extorts a new one out of Hankie.

  39. JacksTigers 4 years ago

    The best part is that because of differed payments to the end of the contract, Lee won’t be the highest paid pitcher for a couple years.

  40. JacksTigers 4 years ago

    In the commenting guidlines it say:

    “Or anything else deamed bad for business by moderators…”

    At what point do his comments resmeble that?

  41. JacksTigers 4 years ago

    Wait, I’m confused. Who is “$$$” supposed to be?

  42. cscd1111 4 years ago

    I guess I will take your word for it I don’t understand that whole subway thing however I have driven in NY as I said the traffic never ends. I also had to drive in Jersey the highways up north were just terrible pot hole ridden endless construction madness. I would much rather live in Philadelphia. Its not perfect but what City is in the north east?

  43. eponine 4 years ago

    i guess you’re forgetting the burnt street food and the garbage in the streets…

  44. JacksTigers 4 years ago

    I just got the same message when I edited a comment. No link. No swearing. Why did that come up?

  45. East Coast Bias 4 years ago

    Hmm… that’s new. No idea, but I’ll research. A lot of the issues aren’t related to us (MLBTR) but more so the system (Disqus). I’ll see if I can get some info for you though.

  46. JacksTigers 4 years ago

    I beg to differ. I have never heard a $20 bill say a word in my life but, I’m talking all the time.

  47. JacksTigers 4 years ago

    I’m lost.

  48. cscd1111 4 years ago

    I disagree you need to check out the story when Jayson decided to curse out a fan in front of his young son. Now this fan was in no way close to interfering With Jayson attempt to catch an uncatchable clearly foul ball.Unfortunately for this fans and his son Jayson never felt it necessary to apologize for this ignorance.

  49. JacksTigers 4 years ago

    Is it weird if I prefer Detroit to all of those places?

  50. East Coast Bias 4 years ago

    Well, yeah weather sucks all across. Especially this past winter. Brutal!

    To each their own, though, right?

  51. cscd1111 4 years ago

    I suppose you would with a name like JacksTigers. LOL…

  52. East Coast Bias 4 years ago

    Home is where the heart is, my man.

  53. Lunchbox45 4 years ago

    He’s the equivalent to a crazy old homeless drug addict standing outside your muffin top yelling that he’s going to punch people in the face .

  54. Lunchbox45 4 years ago

    muffin shop***

    somebody’s watched one too many episodes of seinfeld

  55. MaineSox 4 years ago

    At least he’s been laying off of the whole fascist thing lately…

  56. Lunchbox45 4 years ago

    ya it has been letting people edit on and off for a while now

    sometimes it will say the edit needs to be approved by a mod.

    Disqus related.

  57. JacksTigers 4 years ago

    The best part about that comment is that I’m watching Seinfeld right now.

  58. eponine 4 years ago

    philly is the best city in the world! they have great culture, restaurants, history, people, hospitals, schools, etc. listen to cliff lee and his wife as they talk about how much they love the city. i think they have a lot of great restaurants! in ny, it’s so overpriced and hit or miss. usually miss.

  59. East Coast Bias 4 years ago

    I get it, you’re from there, so you think it’s the best. I’m not gonna call you small minded, since I don’t know where you’ve been, but a lot of people that think that way are. Maybe you are well traveled, and still feel that Philly is the best city in the world, but I guarantee you that you are in a small, small, minuscule, fraction of a minority. Almost to the point of not even recording, or even mentioning.

    But seriously, you can’t compare philly (or any city, really, besides maybe Paris) to New York City. Anyone who does is simply delusional, misinformed, or just plain ignorant. The artists, landmarks, history… If I start to list what nyc has, or has had, we’ll be here for weeks. So I’m not gonna argue with you since there really isn’t any argument to be had.

  60. East Coast Bias 4 years ago

    Ah yes, spoken like a true ignorant. When was the last time you were here? The 70s? lol

  61. Lunchbox45 4 years ago

    Paris??? thats your comparison for NYC?

    Paris is lame. I’ve been fortunate to have been able to travel to a lot of cool places.

    NYC is in my top 3, behind Rome and Barcelona..

    Paris is wayyy down the list… have you been?

    Phillies actually not that bad, its typical big city USA, lots of cool places to see good night light, a lot of really nice neighborhoods and a lot of bad neighborhoods… Realistically, with the money that these ballplayers make, no city is unlivable like it is to the underclass joe.

  62. East Coast Bias 4 years ago

    I lived in Paris/London for about a year and a half. How… Why… I’m baffled at how you did not like Paris! Rome is awesome just for the sheer history behind it. I guess I went during heavy tourist season because it was crowded like a mother! Barcelona is awesome. I’ll have to give it some thought, but it may round out my top 3 with Paris and NYC.

    I had no idea you traveled. You just went up 2 points in my book!

    Now you’re at a 2. :)

  63. Lunchbox45 4 years ago

    Hhaha! Success! 2 points!..

    Honestly, Paris was okay, its not the worst place in the world but the people were snooty, the food was served in small portions and the sites, while nice, are actually kind of boring.

    but thats just my opinion. . I’m actually off to Europe again this summer, but sticking to Italy and Spain!

  64. eponine 4 years ago

    end of january this year

  65. comish4lif 4 years ago

    Check out what story? Link?

  66. guest_54 4 years ago

    Strikeouts are fascist . . .

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