Pirates Want Five Or More Years On McCutchen Deal

The Pirates are talking to center fielder Andrew McCutchen about an extension, tweets SI's Jon Heyman, and they're insisting on at least a five-year deal.  That's another way of saying they want to buy out at least one free agent year, which comes as no surprise.  As noted in our agency database, McCutchen is represented by Steve Hammond of Aegis Sports Management.

Dejan Kovacevic of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported eight days ago that the two sides are in talks but no agreement was imminent.  I mentioned at that time that I expect a six-year term, and I feel that McCutchen deserves $52MM or more based on comparable contracts.


40 Responses to Pirates Want Five Or More Years On McCutchen Deal Leave a Reply

  1. jeremiah15y 4 years ago

    25 years, and his first born!!!

  2. AmericanMovieFan 4 years ago

    5 years/$45MM or 6 years/$60MM sounds fair.

  3. Gumby65 4 years ago

    He can really handcuff the Pirates if he has a ONE TEAM no-trade clause… for the Dodgers, who love sending prospects up the Allegheny.

    Oh wait, nevermind; McCutcheon is better than the marginal players that LA demands in return…

  4. j6takish 4 years ago

    The entire future of this team is riding on McCutchen. The Pirates HAVE to lock him up, otherwise they may as well just give up now

    • wickedkevin 4 years ago

      Thought they gave up in 1993

    • Whole_New_World 4 years ago

      McCutchen is very, very good. Not the 2nd coming. AND it’s not like the Pirates are going to lose control of him any time soon.

    • Smrtbusnisman04 4 years ago

      He doens’t hit well with runners in scoring position, he’s not stealing as many bases, and he failed as the #3 hitter.

      Andrew is an exciting player, but I think the team’s success is going to depend on Neil Walker or the pitching.

  5. Threat_Level_RedSox 4 years ago

    If the Pirates want to compete in the near future they need to lock McCutchen asap, He’s the first player in Pittsburg to have the raw ability to be the cornerstone/franchise player they’ve lacked since Bonds.

    • Mike Adamson 4 years ago

      The Pirates have control of him for a long time but where a extension would help is in the attendance. I know a bunch of Pirate fans that are skeptical about ownership putting money into payroll. If we start spending they will come. However we need to be smart about it. McCutchen is a sure thing nobody else is yet. I think Morton and Mcdonald can be.

  6. Dave_Gershman 4 years ago

    Again, Denard Span’s deal is a more than ideal comparison. Give or take 5-800K more per year, his value is nearly identical to Spans when he signed. I can’t post the article, because I know you guys don’t want to set a precedent, but it explains all of this.

    • Lunchbox45 4 years ago

      Mccutchen<<<<< Span

      not to mention, Span's agent didn't exactly do a great job in getting Span money and opportunity.

      Terrible starting point.

      • Dave_Gershman 4 years ago

        McCuthchens WAR is exactly the same right nowndeom when Span signed his, similar defensive numbers, runs createf, baserunning numbers, etc.

        Also WAR dollars suggest his worth as similar

        Read the article

        • Lunchbox45 4 years ago

          Mccutchen is 2 years younger with higher upside.

          Mccutchen put up a 3.1 WAR season as a 22 year old in his first year in the majors.

          Span had a 1.5 WAR season in 2010, a 1.8 WAR drop. Mccutchen has yet to have a decrease in WAR.

          Span was 26 at the time of his extension, Mccutchen is 24.

          Span’s 5 year 16.5 million dollar extension is a joke to Mccutchen, if you think he gets anywhere near that small of a deal you’re completely off your rocker . I don’t need to read the article..

          Especially if you wrote it, you’re the same guy claiming Frenchy’s hot start is because of .11 point increase in his regular BABip

          • Dave_Gershman 4 years ago

            Doesn’t seem like you know how to use WAR if you’re basing it on one year. Its cumulative and you base a contract on a 42, 55, and 85 percent increase for the first, second, and third year — so as I said, a 500-800K increase on the Span deal but for McCutchen would even out the deal. Thus also giving McCutch the increase based on his year younger age.

            McCutchen had a 6.6 WAR through his first two years while being a worse defender than Span who was at 6.5

          • Lunchbox45 4 years ago

            You can’t take age and experience out of the equation. .!

            The younger you find success the more you are coveted, mccutchen’s ceiling is higher, how can you not see that?

            How bout this.. If he gets a deal under 20 mil for 5 years I will write a post about how awesome you are.. If he gets more you never post on this site again, deal?

    • McCutchen has way more potential than Span. Jay Bruce is a much better comparison. The lack of hitting around McCutchen is a big factor in why he doesn’t drive in and score more runs.

  7. Twinkilling61 4 years ago

    McCutchen has more upside than Span though. Also, he’s better right now than Span so he should ask for more.

  8. Bucs 4 years ago

    I don’t like calling people names, but I love the idiots that say the Pirates have to lock Cutch up immediately. He can’t go anywhere for 4 years, period. A 5 year deal is nice but it is still only one free agency year. The important extension would be the potential second one. One that could eat a chunck of his free agency years.

  9. bigsweens38 4 years ago

    he’s a good player but people lets remember the guy is batting .230,i say lets see what he does this year and then go from there.

    • BeatEmBucs 4 years ago

      3-4 night with two bombs…He’s about to turn it on.

  10. Threat_Level_RedSox 4 years ago

    For 50-60 mil and I would move to North Korea, At least he could watch the steeler and Penguins compete.

  11. TimotheusATL 4 years ago

    He’s already come out and said he wants to. Long term security > risking potential earnings versus injury when you’re pre-arb, especially with an all-out style player like McCutchen. Makes all the sense in the world for him.

  12. pirateswillwinin2013 4 years ago

    yea why not, hes the face of the franchise, not everyone will run and go play for the yankees or Boston every time they get good

  13. captainjeter 4 years ago

    He’s a fool if he does. A kid of his talent should never sign away his free agency years, unless the Pirates are willing to make him the face of this franchise. “Show me the money” should be his motto. Why should he settle for 9 million per year. Start with 11 million and end with 18 million a year by the end of the contract. They need him more he “needs” them

  14. He himself said he wants to stay in pittsburgh his whole career so yea, he wants to stay there

  15. Lunchbox45 4 years ago

    beautiful ball park, pretty nice city, improving team, out of the media spotlight .. umm yah I’d say if the money was right I’d stay no prob

  16. RahZid 4 years ago

    He doesn’t really have a say in the matter aside from retiring. He’s Pirates property for 4 more years anyway. Why not make it 5 and lock in the financial security?

  17. nebelski 4 years ago

    McCutchen has openly stated that he wants to remain in Pittsburgh.

    “I’m willing to be here for my whole career,” McCutchen said Sunday at
    Coors Field. “I really love it in Pittsburgh. I love playing there. I
    love the city. I love how things are starting to turn around for us.
    That’s one of the things I feel that they know, and they have the same
    feeling I do. We’re very open to working something out, but we just want
    to make sure it’s something we want. That’s basically what we’re
    looking at right now.”

  18. notsureifsrs 4 years ago

    5/35 to somalia with limited no trade to iran and libya. deal or no deal

  19. Threat_Level_RedSox 4 years ago

    4/25 to Charles Mansons cell mate no trade to Guantanamo and Baghdad final offer.

  20. Threat_Level_RedSox 4 years ago

    Also he would hit free agency around thirty which would set him up for a good size payday if he remains healthy, its probably is the safest move.

  21. Lunchbox45 4 years ago

    right, then he breaks his wrist diving for a ball and he never returns to form..

    Ever heard of financial security?

  22. notsureifsrs 4 years ago

    i suspect mccutchen would be willing to sign an extension, but the list of players who haven’t said something like what you just quoted is probably shorter than the list of those who have. it’s right on the border of meaninglessness

  23. wickedkevin 4 years ago

    “I’m willing to be here for my whole career,” McCutchen said Sunday at

    Coors Field.

    -He clearly states he wants to spend his whole career in Colorado!

  24. Lunchbox45 4 years ago

    No… It would be a gentlemens bet

  25. Dave_Gershman 4 years ago

    Why would I make that bet? There’s no right answer here, just legitimate facts that prove two similar players value.

    However, if you will, if McCutchen gets a contract closer to Upton, you win. If its closer to Span, I win. Winner gets absolutely nothing.

  26. Lunchbox45 4 years ago

    okay fine hows this, winner gets to pick the picture in the other persons avatar for one full week. deal?

  27. Dave_Gershman 4 years ago

    Ha, alrighty.

    Watch the Pirates not sign McCutchen now!

  28. Lunchbox45 4 years ago

    that would be an unfortunate twist!

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