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Kubel Claimed By Indians, Not White Sox

By Tim Dierkes | August 26, 2011 at 7:31pm CDT

FRIDAY, 7:31pm: The Indians were awarded the claim on Kubel, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports.com (via Twitter).  However, the 48 hour window for the two sides to work out a deal has passed.

3:44pm: The White Sox did not actually claim Kubel, according to ESPN.com's Buster Olney (on Twitter).

THURSDAY: The Indians were awarded the claim on Thome, while the White Sox were awarded the claim on Kubel, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports. Thome has a full-no trade clause and would prefer to play for the Phillies, according to Rosenthal. It's unlikely that the Twins will move Kubel, Rosenthal reports. The sides have discussed a possible extension.

WEDNESDAY: The Twins' Jim Thome and Jason Kubel have been claimed on waivers , tweets ESPN's Buster Olney.  The teams involved now have 48 hours to make a deal.

We learned earlier that the White Sox were one of the teams to place a claim on Thome.  Olney has spoken to executives who expected the White Sox, Indians, Rangers, or Yankees to win a claim on Kubel.

If multiple teams make a claim on one player, the team with the worst record in the same league is awarded the claim.

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  1. *Jays_44*

    14 years ago

    Bell and jays?

    Reply
    • Coollet

      14 years ago

      Save us Jeebus,… i mean, Save us AA

      Reply
    • Martus Kurtz

      14 years ago

      I think it’s a good possibility.  Jays were going to be in on him big time in the offseason.  Would solve their problem at the CL position.

      Reply
      • Bluebirdz 2

        14 years ago

        I don’t think they’re gonna go with Heath bell, probably an in house option or papelbon, not bell

        Reply
        • Martus Kurtz

          14 years ago

          Yeah, but they have SOME money, and haven’t made a splash in the offseason in a few years really..we’ll see what AA decides to do. Very smart guy.

          Reply
        • Jon Stark

          14 years ago

          really doubt they are going to be willing to pay what papelbon is looking for. I’m not sure anyone is going to be willing ot pay.

          Reply
        • Jon Stark

          14 years ago

          Heath Bell whose effectiveness/dominance seems to be declining? I would be surprised.

          Reply
  2. Martus Kurtz

    14 years ago

    I REALLY hope the Indians got the claim on Thome.  Good way to end his career!

    Reply
    • Chiburgh

      14 years ago

      It would be a good ending to his career.
      Plus, I don’t really see a benefit for the White Sox to claim Thome other than to block the Indians from getting him. You aren’t going to take Konerko’s bat out of the line-up. While Paulie is in the DH role, do you really want Thome playing 1st. You would have Dunn part II

      Reply
      • Cliff Lee

        14 years ago

        Alright that just plain hurts. I KNOW I can field better than ol’ Jimbo.

        Reply
        • Chiburgh

          14 years ago

          So, there is no reason to trade for Jimbo. If Dunn is going to play 1st, while Paulie is DH, then Jim sits on the bench.

          Reply
          • Vegandork

            14 years ago

            Stopping the Indians and Tigers from claiming him is reason enough.  Just because they were awarded the claim doesn’t mean he’s going to Chicago.  The Twins could pull him back if Chicago doesn’t want to give anything up for him.

            Reply
            • Ali Ostrowski

              14 years ago

              that’s true  that just shocked me a little that the twins would do that
              hey that could possibly eliminate another sox killer from killing us

              Reply
      • shysox

        14 years ago

        Thome will never be a position player in his life again. This makes no sense, the Sox have no chance at the postseason and Ozzie seems to like Dunn’s BA anyways.

        Reply
    • Vegandork

      14 years ago

      Well, the White Sox have a worse record, and apparently they claimed him.  So there’s no chance the Tribe will get a crack at him.

      Reply
      • Martus Kurtz

        14 years ago

        And the Indians have the right to trade for him!

        Reply
  3. Bob Busser

    14 years ago

    The Jays have NO shot at Bell… he won’t get out of the NL on waivers.  St. Louis, Dbacks, Braves (to block Philly from getting him)  and the Giants all could use him.

    Reply
    • Martus Kurtz

      14 years ago

      But none of those teams are going to give up what SD wants for him.  Or maybe they’ll take lesser prospects KNOWING he would come back.  But then again, that’d require losing their first round pick next year..

      Reply
      • Bob Busser

        14 years ago

        The Giants claimed him…. 

        Reply
  4. Josh Stuart

    14 years ago

    I’d bet AA is claiming anyone who would return type A or B compensation picks. 

    Reply
  5. Cody Hartle

    14 years ago

    I don’t understand how an all star, a future HOF’er, and a pretty solid outfielder all end up on waivers. 

    Reply
    • Kyle Buttermore

      14 years ago

      All have one year left on there deals and both teams are going nowhere. Try and save $ and get prospects in return. That’s pretty simple to understand.

      Reply
    • Brian M

      14 years ago

      Because the the team owning the player does not HAVE to trade them.  They could easily just pull them back off waivers if they don’t like the deal.  Teams are in complete control over that situation and at the very worst, they keep their guy.  Simple. It’s almost counterproductive NOT to place good players with either large contracts or soon to be free agents on waivers. 

      Reply
    • Billy Barker

      14 years ago

      most teams put a lot of their players on waivers mainly as a way to find out interest in those players

      Reply
    • Billy Barker

      14 years ago

      most teams put a lot of their players on waivers mainly as a way to find out interest in those players

      Reply
  6. Mwphillies

    14 years ago

    Phillies better get thome

    Reply
    • MauerPower

      14 years ago

      The Phillies were the one least likely to claim him, unless he had passed through waivers of course. 

      Reply
      • Mwphillies

        14 years ago

        Yeah but I just want him on the phillies

        Reply
  7. Eduardo Medina

    14 years ago

    The Angels claim Kubel…

    Reply
  8. Vegandork

    14 years ago

    Yahoo sports via Big League Stew is reporting the White Sox won the claims on both Kubel and Thome.

    Reply
  9. Andy Stocker

    14 years ago

    Just because a player is on waivers doesn’t mean that a team necessarily wants to move them.  In the case of Thome I think its about giving the man a shot to win a title.  Not sure what Bill Smith is planning on doing with Kubel, but I’m sure its not good.  I think the Twins will end up releasing Thome and either the Phillies or Yankees sign him.  I don’t see the Twins sending him to the White Sox…why, for either team AND for Jim??  He played there for 3.5 years and Ozzie didn’t want him back.

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    • Vegandork

      14 years ago

      They’d have to place him on irrevocable waivers first to release him, which would still mean he gets claimed.

      And the “why” probably has more to do with preventing the Indians and Tigers from improving.

      Reply
      • Phillies_Aces35

        14 years ago

        He has a no trade so it doesn’t matter if he gets claimed.

        Reply
      • MiggyCabby24

        14 years ago

        The Tigers just claimed Delmon Young a week ago, why would they need Kubel??

        Reply
  10. Andy Stocker

    14 years ago

    good point about the “why”…didn’t think about that

    Reply
  11. Brian M

    14 years ago

    I would be STUNNED if the Twins traded Kubel to the White Sox!

    Reply
  12. geauxbraves2000

    14 years ago

    “Thome has a full-no trade clause and would prefer to play for the Phillies, according to Rosenthal” — Yeah, who wouldn’t prefer the Phillies right now, as good as they are @ 83-45 and well on their way to the postseason, that is a no-brainer.

    Reply
  13. MauerPower

    14 years ago

    Unless he gets a really good return for Kubel, I seriously hope Bill Smith doesn’t trade him. 

    Reply
  14. Christopher David

    14 years ago

    Pull Thome back, release him, and let Ruben Amaro Jr. bring him home.

    Reply
    • MauerPower

      14 years ago

      I’d do that if I was the Twins FO.

      Reply
    • Palehose

      14 years ago

      Irrevocable waivers would have to take effect. Same difference.

      Reply
    • Phillies_Aces35

      14 years ago

      It would be just as easy for Jim Thome to reject the trade to the Indians and become a free agent himself by sacraficing his salary.

      Seriously, why would he spend his last year (most likely) with the Indians. They’re not going to make it to the post season… I can’t see a good reason to accept a deal there.

      Reply
  15. Kyle

    14 years ago

    Thome left the Indians for the Phillies for a couple extra years with the same monetary offer per year. His crap about not wanting to leave Cleveland is a joke. It was his choice. He sucks anyway. Thats what the Indians need right now, another sub .250 hitter to take up payroll.

    Reply
    • Jon Stark

      14 years ago

      ya, an .842 ops is not really crap, but I guess if you are judging based on BA then that will probably not move you.

      Reply
    • Martus Kurtz

      14 years ago

      Ouch.  I mean, that seems to be 20 years ago.  But it would be a great ending to his career…

      Reply
    • venom4789

      14 years ago

       cleveland lowballed thome really bad, they claimed they offered him a contract with a hometown discount. The contract they offered him was flat out offensive. However they did it to try to make thome look like the bad guy by not taking a hometown discount.

      Cleveland fans are trash, constantly booing thome because they are stupid and uneducated. I hope he doesnt go back there and if he does he single handily takes them out of the race.

      Reply
  16. 0vercast

    14 years ago

    For the Twins to trade good young outfielders Young and Kubel to their division rivals would be a very stupid move.  That’s exactly why it’s likely to happen.

    Reply
  17. Matt Galvin

    14 years ago

    White Sox have their own Outfielders to Trade like Pierre and so on so need for Kubel and White Sox have no chance of making the Playoffs in the present Playoff format this year.

    Reply
  18. darinc

    14 years ago

    I heard the Royals claimed him…

    Reply
  19. Matt Manzella

    14 years ago

    Looks like Kenny was rightfully POed for once.

    Reply
  20. Matt Galvin

    14 years ago

    Angels or Rangers or Red Sox because really no good backup intill Drew gets back.

    Reply
  21. Conebone69

    14 years ago

    Just send a scrappy hitter with zero power or a reliever and you can have Kubel

    Reply

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