Manager/GM Notes: Epstein, Sandberg, Cashman

The Cubs are on the brink of completing a deal with the GM Theo Epstein and the Red Sox. Here are the details and more managerial and GM notes from around MLB…

  • MLB.com's Carrie Muskat hears that chairman Tom Ricketts is handling compensation discussions for the Cubs. However, Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe reports that assistant GMs Ben Cherington and Randy Bush will do most of the negotiating with upper management signing off on the expected agreement.
  • John Dennis of WEEI hears that the Red Sox and Cubs won't start talks about compensation for Epstein until today (link via Rob Bradford of WEEI.com).
  • Epstein will earn $3MM or more on his new deal with the Cubs, but it still falls short of what Tigers president and GM Dave Dombrowski earns, according to Jon Heyman of SI.com (Twitter links). Heyman noted earlier this week that Dombrowski, one of baseball's longest-tenured GMs, earns about $5MM.
  • Gordon Wittenmyer of the Chicago Sun-Times hears that the Cubs expect a reconciliation with Hall of Famer Ryne Sandberg this week. Epstein interviewed Sandberg for Boston's Triple-A managerial position last offseason, but Sandberg turned the job down to manage in the Phillies' system. Cubs manager Mike Quade is under contract through 2012.
  • Joel Sherman of the New York Post explains the challenges GMs face in Boston and New York. One MLB executive is amazed that Yankees GM Brian Cashman has continued to do his job under such intense pressure for more than a decade.


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59 Comments on "Manager/GM Notes: Epstein, Sandberg, Cashman"


gunsnascar
3 years 10 months ago

Well maybe we can see what the epstein compensation will finally be.
Welcome back to chicago Ryno.

John DiRienzo
3 years 10 months ago

wait i thought there was no compensation

chico65
3 years 10 months ago

Sucks to be Quade right now.  First Sharon Stone turns on him, now this?

CowboyJames
3 years 10 months ago

I don’t get it. Seriously I need it explained to me…

chico65
3 years 10 months ago

Ever seen Total Recall?

$6101468
3 years 10 months ago

Theo will earn less than Dombrowski?  Have they started a fund yet?  Will they schedule an event to make up the difference?  Will Theo apply for an EBT card? Oh the pain!

gunsnascar
3 years 10 months ago

Yeah it would suck to make a mere 250k a month.

3 years 10 months ago

Seriously , lol. Oh how will he ever be able to support his family on such a small salary. I would take the 250k a year,even over 2 years, never mind a month.

gunsnascar
3 years 10 months ago

it was a joke guy
I would be happy with 250k for 3 years.

jayrig5
3 years 10 months ago

Dude, his was a joke as well.

3 years 10 months ago

We need to get a least two good prospects from the cubs.I have no problem welcoming theo back and let him work under his last contract.

DebaserTN
3 years 10 months ago

Last I saw, the Sox were looking for cash rather than prospects.  I figure there’s a reason for that — you probably don’t want any of our prospects even if we could find two good ones.

bglaszcz
3 years 10 months ago

1)Red Sox receive cash

2)Red Sox sign Pujols for 1 yr 35M contract
3)Red Sox sign CJ Wilson for 1 yr 27M contract4)….5)….
7)Profit???

nycub
3 years 10 months ago

Yes, obviously the most likely scenario EVER

GoAwayNow
3 years 10 months ago

troll

imachainsaw
3 years 10 months ago

it’s feasible

nycub
3 years 10 months ago

No, it’s really not. 

imachainsaw
3 years 10 months ago

it’s sarcasm

mmwatkin
3 years 10 months ago

I think Dombrowski earned his salary this year. 

Afam
3 years 10 months ago

Anyone hearing what the compensation is going to be

start_wearing_purple
start_wearing_purple
3 years 10 months ago

If you believe Gammons, it’s Brett Jackson. If you believe reality then it’s only speculation at this point.

godzillacub
3 years 10 months ago

Gammons doesn’t know who Brett Jackson is. For Gammons, he’s a right-handed hitting right fielder . . . for the rest of us he’s a left-handed hitting center-fielder who doesn’t have the arm for right.

gradylittle
3 years 10 months ago

I’m hearing it will most likely be some cash.

Afam
3 years 10 months ago

i think the cash is to pay for theo last contract

NomarGarciaparra
3 years 10 months ago

Whaddup Grady? Remember me…the all-star on your 2003 team?

Afam
3 years 10 months ago

everyone this is afam.just wanted to create an actually account instead

corey23
3 years 10 months ago

such pressure in new york for cashman…. here brian, spend as much as you want.  pitching? drafting and trades? oh don’t worry about those, those are for poor people.

start_wearing_purple
start_wearing_purple
3 years 10 months ago

I think it’s more along the lines of “You didn’t win the World Series, you failed!”

corey23
3 years 10 months ago

definitely… lucky for him big george is gone… or else he’d probably be gone too.

MB923
3 years 10 months ago

And how do you figure that? Because he’s on an oh so small 2 year drought? You know before that he was on a 9 year drought.

corey23
3 years 10 months ago

I obviously don’t, and don’t really care… about the AL East. At all. 

ubercubsfan
3 years 10 months ago

You should watch “Too Much Moneyball” on youtube. 😀

gradylittle
3 years 10 months ago

I just want this to be over with already, and have the Sox hire a damn manager.

3 years 10 months ago

Yeah forget process of interviews! Just throw names in a hat and pick one out!

NorthSideIrish
3 years 10 months ago

I’ve seen Jay Jackson mentioned a couple places…he was one of the Cubs top 3 SP prospects in 2010, but had a bad 2011 season and a drop in velocity. Once Epstein told the Sox he was leaving when his contract was up, they lost a lot of leverage.

MaineSox
3 years 10 months ago

Aside from the fact that he never said that, you are absolutely correct…

NorthSideIrish
3 years 10 months ago

Joelsherman1 Joel Sherman Heard #Redsox wanted keep Theo, but Epstein made clear leaving when contract up after ’12 . So OK’d #Cubs: Didn’t want expensive lameduck

MaineSox
3 years 10 months ago

Sherman’s a hack, and everyone else was reporting that it took over a day to be finalized because Theo wasn’t sure he actually wanted to leave.

3 years 10 months ago

 The Sox don’t need money from Chicago, they need players.

parkdav
3 years 10 months ago

The Cubs and Theo have no leverage at all. He Sox can say thanks but no thanks. We want more. Theo, get back to work.

bacboris
3 years 10 months ago

Cool story Bro. And when your team has a GM that everyone knows is gone after this year?

The end story is this, if hes getting a bump in title (i.e president of baseball operations) there’s almost nothing that the Red Sox can/will do to stop it. If you don’t believe me, I recommend looking up any situation where an MLB team offered a vertical position jump to another team’s employee and it didn’t end up going through.

woadude
3 years 10 months ago

Yeah that would work, sure worked well when the Mariners said that to Randy Johnson in 1999, and all he did was lob batting practice to the opposing team, probably the only time some of those guys hit one off of him, and the M’s were forced to trade him to Houston, when someone wants to go, they will go, if you force them to stay, you get what you paid for.

parkdav
3 years 10 months ago

I guess all I am saying is the sox still have some say in it. Am I just dead wrong on this?

cubs223425
3 years 10 months ago

They have some say, but is it really a good idea to keep a GM who doesn’t care/want to be there? Maybe in his last season, he decides to trade for Soriano or Zambrano so they aren’t his problem when he jumps to Chicago for 2013, haha!

MaineSox
3 years 10 months ago

If Chicago doesn’t sign Theo they’ll sign someone else, so Theo wouldn’t be going to the Cubs in 2013.

imachainsaw
3 years 10 months ago

ever heard of a one year deal? or an ‘Interim’ tag? the cubs signed a 1b to a 1-year deal last offseason for a reason.

MaineSox
3 years 10 months ago

1st basemen and GMs are a little bit different.  Teams don’t like to go through complete seasons/off-seasons with interim General Managers, and it is quite uncommon; in all likelihood they would not wait a year to sign a long-term GM.

bmoneyy20
3 years 10 months ago

theo doesnt want to be there, leverage gone

MaineSox
3 years 10 months ago

There’s no way that happens, if the Sox decide they aren’t getting enough compensation and nix the deal Theo will get back to work just as he did before.  There would surely be problems between him and ownership, but there is no way he intentionally screws things up; nobody would hire him if he pulled that crap, plus he’s been discontented before and still done a fine job as GM.

HVega
3 years 10 months ago

I would love to see Ryno managing the Cubs!  If Epstein does this, he will have won the hearts of many in Chi-town right off the bat!  Hey at this point- I would even take a ‘pill- popping’ Francona over Quade! Make it happen THEO!!!

Radatz64
3 years 10 months ago

Red Sox asking for cash which they will send to San Diego with John Lackey’s contract.  His contract will come off the books and then they will hesitantly look at another free agent starting pitcher (e.g. CJ Wilson) but may not go there, having been burnt by Lackey signing.

Radatz64
3 years 10 months ago

May also receive a high-ceiling 18-year old or 2 to appease the fans.

start_wearing_purple
start_wearing_purple
3 years 10 months ago

“…assistant GMs Ben Cherington and Randy Bush will do most of the negotiating…”

I’m hoping that considering this as well as since he’s been in all the high level decisions so far that this means Cherrington is pretty much waiting to be named to the GM position.

johnsilver
3 years 10 months ago

Joel Sherman should just go to the NYT since they have all the rest of the dolt reporters in NY. What a bunch of rubbish. That guy is out of his mond.

0bsessions
3 years 10 months ago

The problem is that getting cash back doesn’t offset Lackey’s contract where it matters: luxury tax eligible payroll.

The Sox already spend an absolute truckload on payroll, player development, scouting, drafting overslot. There’s really no area in operations where Henry has ever been prone to skimp on cash, so getting money back doesn’t benefit the team in any way outside of profitability.

0bsessions
3 years 10 months ago

I see that perspective, yes. I’ve said elsewhere, but it’s basically about the worst possible team to have to deal with on this. Money does the fanbase absolutely no good since it doesn’t improve the team at all. Meanwhile, I can understand the Cubs not wanting to part with a top three organizational prospect (Especially when the entire reason they want Theo is to turn that ship around), but they’re pretty much filled with garbage past that point.

John DiRienzo
3 years 10 months ago

im sorry, i could have sworn i was approached by a prophet who told me that he saw Theo to the cubs for no compensation in the constellations. maybe he was just standing too close to the track and was inhaling too much exhaust. my bad

imachainsaw
3 years 10 months ago

I think if the Sox are getting a good prospect, he’d have to be playing in A+ or lower, because the Cubs definitely need their high-level prospects to do a quick turn around for this franchise. Feel free to take McNutt however.

0bsessions
3 years 10 months ago

Agreed on this. If we’re getting anything in regards to a prospect, it’s a high upside low minors prospect or two and I’m perfectly fine with that.