Free Agents Can Sign With New Teams

Let the bidding begin!  Free agents are now allowed to sign with new teams.

Activity may still be limited this month, however.  55 Type A or B free agents are eligible to be offered arbitration at the November 23rd deadline, based on the Elias rankings.  In many cases, teams will wait to see whether an arbitration offer is made before signing a free agent.  Say the Pirates want to sign Type A free agent Ramon Hernandez.  If they sign him before November 23rd, an arbitration offer becomes assumed, and the Pirates have to give the Reds their second-round pick in the June 2012 draft.  They'll want to see whether the Reds actually offer arbitration, because if not there will be no draft pick compensation. 

This concept matters less for Type B free agents, because the new team doesn't directly give a draft pick to the old one.  Teams still may not want to guarantee their competitors draft picks, though.  If the Red Sox want to sign Type B free agent Freddy Garcia, doing so before November 23rd guarantees the Yankees a supplemental draft pick.

Certain star players will be obviously be offered arbitration, for example Albert Pujols, Prince Fielder, and Jose Reyes.  With these players the November 23rd deadline is not important, but stars usually don't sign in November anyway because they prefer to let the market develop into December or January.

Last year free agents were free to sign with new teams as of November 7th, and the arbitration offer deadline was November 23rd.  Victor Martinez was the only Type A free agent to sign with a new team during that period, while Joaquin Benoit and John Buck were the only Bs.  All three were locks for arbitration offers, so there was no harm in signing them early.  There were several re-signings during that period, including Aubrey Huff, Jake Westbrook, Ramon Hernandez, and Jhonny Peralta.


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wickedkevin
3 years 9 months ago

ITS THE MOST WONDERFUL TIME OF THE YEAR!

3 years 9 months ago

Ding! Dong! Ding! Dong! The kid’s jingle-belling and everyone telling you be of good cheer.

wickedkevin
3 years 9 months ago

It’s the hap-happiest off-season of all

With those holiday greetings and gay happy winter meetings

When agents come to call

It’s the hap- happiest off-season of all!

EdinsonPickle
3 years 9 months ago

What about summer? You know, when the actual baseball season is in full swing.

diesel2410
3 years 9 months ago

Must be a Sox fan

chico65
3 years 9 months ago

Must be a yankee fan

not_brooks
3 years 9 months ago

By summer, half of the teams are already out of the races. In November, everyone has hope. Except for Oriole fans. It’s tough to have hope when you don’t have a GM.

diesel2410
3 years 9 months ago

It’s music to Boston’s ear!

3 years 9 months ago

Any on the phils?

jordan
3 years 9 months ago

Only issue is we dont know if the new CBA has different FA (type A/B) comp.. rumor is it will be a comp round pick for both

MetsFanXXIII
3 years 9 months ago

I doubt any changes take effect for this particular offseason. The current CBA doesn’t expire until December 11.

3 years 9 months ago

Agreed, I’ve heard that free agent compensation is likely to remain the same for this offseason and the 2012 draft.  Would not be fair otherwise, dating back to July trades.

55saveslives
3 years 9 months ago

Beltran, Rollins, Pierre and call it an off season!

Pierre LF
Sanchez 2B
Beltran RF
Sandoval 3B
Posey C
Schierholtz CF
Huff 1B
Rollins SS

hscphillyboy
3 years 9 months ago

Got news for ya slick: Jimmy ain’t battin’ 8th……Jimmy don’t bat 8th……GOOD LUCK with that one !

3 years 9 months ago

Homie don’t play dat

3 years 9 months ago

Y’all really want Pierre?

55saveslives
3 years 9 months ago

He’s a solid leadoff hitter.  Prob the best available not named Jose Reyes.

3 years 9 months ago

True, I was thinking about Alex Rios for a second…my bad.

55saveslives
3 years 9 months ago

No we missed out on that one….all we would have had to give up is a major first round bust named Tim Lincesomething!

baseball52
3 years 9 months ago

Who the hell is that? Could it be this weirdo in my avatar? I hear he plays baseball…

3 years 9 months ago

I hear he smokes alot of gonja too

legaryd
3 years 9 months ago

Nah, that kid just looks like a stoner

mmiller54
3 years 9 months ago

Dejesus can be. Pierre’s lack of obp makes him a bad leadoff hitter. Over the past few years I would bet Dejesus is better in obp.

55saveslives
3 years 9 months ago

I like Dejesus too.  He had a down year, so probably could be had cheaper.  Funny thing is, if he didn’t break his wrist in 2010 we would have had him instead of Cody Ross  O.O

setupunchtag
3 years 9 months ago

You’re right about DDJ. He can play all outfield positions (he led the AL in UZR in RF, and was pretty good in LF in ’09), hits righties better than left, if you want to platoon him. I would much rather have him leading off than Pierre…and unlike Juan, his arm actually can throw a baseball more than 100 ft without a 45 degree arc. I think much of his bad year can be explained by him still recovering from his wrist injury and Oakland’s stadium. WAY better choice than Pierre.

3 years 9 months ago

Yeah. Hit it toward the outfield, one or all will miss it.

monkeydung
3 years 9 months ago

it might  be hard for the giants to overpay/sign pierre w/ colleti not in the SF front office anymore. if you want, you can have velez back!

inleylandwetrust
3 years 9 months ago

Can’t wait! Let’s get some deals poppin! Can’t wait to see who the Tigers are “in hard on” this year!

wickedkevin
3 years 9 months ago

You must be looking for the Chien-Ming Wang thread.

3 years 9 months ago

I actually teared-up while laughing about that comment for some reason haha

inleylandwetrust
3 years 9 months ago

You stole all my possible jokes for that thread

wickedkevin
3 years 9 months ago

I just went Wang crazy I guess.

Guest
3 years 9 months ago

judging from your picture, i’d say there’s going to be a lot of excited free agents just waiting to get down to business with you guys.

Guest
3 years 9 months ago

why do teams need almost a month to decide about arbitration? Move the date up lets get on with it!

Phillies_Aces35
3 years 9 months ago

I agree, when I’m playing MLB: The Show, it’s the first thing I do with my free agents (I’m jokingly saying that people). I’ve got to think they know who they’re going to offer it to at this point.

Ian_Smell
3 years 9 months ago

I’d actually really like to see the Pirates sign Hernandez.

Jakmagic
3 years 9 months ago

Ramon Hernandez is prolly going to be one of the best pickups for a team this year. As a Brewers fan I wish the Crew would take an interest in him. We already have J. Lucroy but Ramon would be a nice compliment to him. I really like Ramon’s offensive potential. The Pirates would be getting a very good player. I don’t know how many games you would get from him behind the plate. I really liked what the Brewers did this year by making G. Kottarus Randy Wolf’s personal catcher. That gave Lucroy the rest that he needed. I wonder if a situation like that would be good for Hernandez? Hernandez would be a great fit with the Pirates. I also wonder what the Pirates are going to do with their first base position? I know someone else had mentioned Pena. I wouldn’t mind if the Brewers pursued Pena too. My offseason wishes for the Brewers are A. Ramirez, C. Pena(only if Fielder is gone), Furcal, and Sizemore. I would move C. Hart to 1st base if G. Sizemore was aquired. Of course those aree just my position player wishes. I am not even going to start rambling on about my pitching wishes.

My lineup
RF- C. Hart
CF- G. Sizemore/N. Morgan/C. Gomez
LF- R. Braun
3B- A. Ramirez
2B- R. Weeks
1B- C. Pena
C- Lucroy
SS- Furcal
Pitcher

3 years 9 months ago

if their payroll somehow doubled this could work

3 years 9 months ago

I know the A’s won’t resign WIllingham, but maybe they can land some decent cheap guys.

MarlinsFaninPA
3 years 9 months ago

For years, the Dolphins have gotten the money for parking, concession stands, and luxury booths; now there is money to spend and no more firesales… This is the first offseason since just prior to ’97 that I actually care about Free Agency signings… GO FISH!!!

Lunchbox45
3 years 9 months ago

i have a feeling the marlins are going to pull a ‘werth’ this offseason

3 years 9 months ago

Can we trade you for Josh Johnson? :)

MarlinsFaninPA
3 years 9 months ago

You can have Chris Vol-Suck, hell, I’ll even throw in Ricky “Mr. Inconsistent” Nolasco… I just want a big name bat to protect Stanton in the line-up, imagine if pitchers actually had to pitch to that kid and not junk him all the time

3 years 9 months ago

Alright, but only if you throw in that one guy that had that one name that turned out to not be his real name.

3 years 9 months ago

NYBravosFan10
3 years 9 months ago

yyyyyeeeeaaaaaahhhhhh BUDDY!!! Let’s get this party started!!!

wickedkevin
3 years 9 months ago

Website needs a new countdown, Tim!  Make it to when the Cubs win the WS 😉

3 years 9 months ago

That clock would explode

FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
3 years 9 months ago

whoop

55saveslives
3 years 9 months ago

WTH??  54 min in and NOBODY signed yet??

3 years 9 months ago

Reyes is re-signing with the Mets…just throwing that out there

MetsMagic
3 years 9 months ago

Ryan Braun said he’s going to the Brewers, so he’s going to the Brewers. Ryan Brawn said so. 

coolstorybro222
3 years 9 months ago

I JUST HEARD KING FELIX GOT TRADED TO THE YANKEES FOR JESUS MONTERO!

3 years 9 months ago

LOL straight-up right? Are you Gordon Thompson’s assistant GM?

sam_lammert
3 years 9 months ago

cool story bro

sports33
3 years 9 months ago

Ladies and gentlemen, Bleacher Creature’s other Disqus account.

3 years 9 months ago

This is my first time following the whole free agent signing, so I just want to ask one question. Do signings usually occur pretty quickly (like right now) or are they kind of spread throughout the day?

3 years 9 months ago

They’re kind of spread out through late January, and occasionally later.

-C

dodgers1994
3 years 9 months ago

signings will occur within the next week but expect big named guys like prince or pujols to hold out maybe a week or two. In 2009 I waited like 4 months for Manny to sign back with the dodgers so you really never know !

sports33
3 years 9 months ago

Like mentioned in the post, I wouldn’t expect any signings of real significance until later, probably around the Winter Meetings. There will be some signings, but that’s when the magic happens.

Hope that helps.

CAD_Monkey
3 years 9 months ago

Does anyone know about a “posting schedule” (if it exists)?

For example, is there a deadline that Darvish has to submit his name to be posted?  And then how long do teams have to bid, then sign, etc.

D.j. Wilson
3 years 9 months ago

Edwin Jackson come to KC and I won’t ask for anything else for Christmas!!

icedrake523
3 years 9 months ago

This was always my favorite part of playing MVP Baseball. Even more fun than going 162-0 and sweeping the playoffs.

Ian_Smell
3 years 9 months ago

I love that game so much. That’s the only game I still played on my XBox, but they just got the red rings, so I’m going to have to get a new one. Totally worth it for that game.

icedrake523
3 years 9 months ago

Back in 2007 or 2008, I paid like $80 for the PC version from a third party seller on Amazon. Totally worth it for the mods. Too bad the mod community for it has kind of died down.

3 years 9 months ago

You are right. I totally agree with you, Ian_Smell.