Marlins’ Offer To Pujols Is Under $200MM

The Marlins' offer to Albert Pujols is for less than $200MM, according to Joe Capozzi of the Palm Beach Post.  Yesterday, it was reported that the Marlins' offer is believed to be for nine years, but Capozzi isn't sure of the length of the offer.

Capozzi also adds that the Marlins reported offer of $90MM over six years to Jose Reyes is not accurate, but close.  Reyes is said to be intrigued by the idea of playing in warm weather and for Ozzie Guillen.

This afternoon, the Cardinals re-engaged in contract talks with Pujols' agent Dan Lozano for the first time since February.


72 Responses to Marlins’ Offer To Pujols Is Under $200MM Leave a Reply

  1. InLeylandWeTrust 4 years ago

    Cheap bast@rds!

    • kstewskisAZ 4 years ago

      LOL have to agree, I went to HS with the president. Nuff said!

    • The_BiRDS 4 years ago

      Hopefully this has some truth to it.. Pujols you better take STLs offer before they bring it down.

  2. Andy_B 4 years ago

    I wonder how insulted Pujols was upon learning that the Marlins brought him to Miami to offer him less than St Louis did.

    • Triteon 4 years ago

      There is a matter of perspective at play:  Florida has no state income tax.  On a $22MM yearly contract ($200MM/9yrs), $11MM of his contract is non-taxed, roughly a half-million per year, or $4.5MM total.  In the grand scheme is it much?  Not really, but it’s there.

      Doesn’t really matter…who wants to be baseball’s Lebron James?

  3. $17857693 4 years ago

    It will take atleast 9/225 to pry him away from St. Louis, but i think he returns to the Cards for 9/210

  4. The_BiRDS 4 years ago

    Sorry Miami… YOU’RE OUT!

    That wont even get ya Fielder…

  5. LUWahooNatFan 4 years ago

    I’ll find it pretty funny if after all this talk about going after every top agent the Marlins end up with something like Rafael Furcal and Edwin Jackson

    • OptimisticMarlinsFan 4 years ago

      Reyes is the only SS the Marlins would sign. They could find a better 3B or CF and keep Hanley at SS. Furcal makes no sense at all.

    • Ry.the_Stunner 4 years ago

      Why would they sign Furcal?  They have Hanley.  They’d move Hanley to a different position for Reyes, but definitely not for Furcal.

      • The_BiRDS 4 years ago

        Hanely already said he refuses to switch positions.  

        • Lunchbox45 4 years ago

          actually no, Hanley has stated sereral times publicly that he would move positions for reyes.

          • Andy_B 4 years ago

            Jim Bowden has been repeatedly saying on MLB that Hanley is not on board with switching positions.

          • Lunchbox45 4 years ago

             probably not for another player, but from what i hear he’s the godfather to reyes’ daughter, so if he wants him on board, I’m sure he wont have an issue with it. 

  6. The_BiRDS 4 years ago

    “Capozzi also adds that the Marlins reported offer of $90MM over six years to Jose Reyes is not accurate, but close.” 

    50MM over eight years

  7. Lunchbox45 4 years ago

    lol

  8. Duke15 4 years ago

    Shocker.

  9. miamiroc 4 years ago

    Who knows who to believe anymore. All these guys just tweet out a bunch of numbers and then they or one of their buddy’s retweet a correction a few hours later. Its quite a racket these guys have got going on. 

  10. Dude they would be dumb to tie down 200 million dollars of resources on a guy who will begin to decline in two or three years, if not already.

    • Matt Talken 4 years ago

      He may have had a down year, but I hardly think he’s in decline.  I’d imagine it’s more likely that the contract talk and a slow start got on his mind.

      Post All-Star game, he put up an OPS of .959 with a .319 Batting Average.

      A .959 OPS line would’ve still been one of his lowest seasons, but it’s enough in line with his career averages that we certainly wouldn’t be talking about him being in decline.  (It’s roughly equal to his 2002 sophomore season with an OPS of .955)

      You might be right, but I think he’s likely to bounce back next season when his mind is back on baseball instead of contract talk.

      Of course, I do think that for whoever signs up, Cardinals or not, they’re not going to get the returns they’d probably like to get at least in years 7-9 of a 9 year contract.

    • Timothy Howell 4 years ago

      Yes! Finally. Someone makes some sense around here.  He is on a decline.  Yeah, sure, Pujols in a decline is better than most players ascending, but still. 9 years is absolutely ridiculous for a guy that’ll be 32!

  11. Vossome93 4 years ago

    Under 200 mil to play for that team in that uniform? #slapintheface

  12. The_BiRDS 4 years ago

    Publicity stunt maybe? It has to be… unless they are really bad negotiators.

  13. Why would he take less money to play for a lesser team than the one he just won a WS with?  Why would the Marlins even bother if that’s the extent of their offer?

    • The_BiRDS 4 years ago

      The only reason I thought he may want to sign in Miami is that its like a 1-2hour plane ride to the Dominican

  14. Being in on every free agent doesn’t seem to actually mean “being in” on every free agent in the Marlins case.

  15. OptimisticMarlinsFan 4 years ago

    If it’s certain that the Cards won’t up their offer at all then I do think it will take at least $225M over 9 years to pry him away from the Cards. I ultimately don’t see anyone making that kind of offer, though.

    • Cheeseballs 4 years ago

      It’s being reported that the Cardinals have already modified the last offer made.

      • jhfdssdaf 4 years ago

        Modify doesn’t necessarily mean increase.  They could have added a no-trade clause, in case the new CBA eliminates 10/5 vesting rights.

  16. I think they just wanted to make some sort of a statement by inviting him down. If by some miracle they signed him for under 200 mill, they just made the deal of a lifetime, but otherwise, it was just a way for Miami to say that they’re willing to spend the big bucks, even if it’s not on Pujols.

  17. What if it was for 1 year 199 mil!??!!?!??!!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!

    SEE NOW THE OFFER DOESNT LOOK SO STUPID FOR BEING UNDER 200!

    • Lunchbox45 4 years ago

      the fact that it was 9 years was out before it was known the full amount

      • thus the what if 😛

        Im just bored in class and made that previous post. 

  18. I thought the 9 years/225 million was a bit ludicrous

  19. neurogame 4 years ago

    Whatever happens, Fat Albert will have money coming out of his poo-hole.  

  20. SunsetStripper 4 years ago

    Why even bother if your going to come in with a bid that was lower than the Cardinal’s original offer.  You are going to have to overpay to get Poop’s to leave, not underpay.

  21. I thought Cowherd made a pretty convincing argument this am about how STL
    doesn’t need Albert. And Albert going to Miami I find to be similar to Beckham
    coming to LA for big $$ to try and spring it to life. It didn’t work, and it’s not
    going to work. You must build thru the draft, and create your own Pujolseses.
    Should be a pretty good example for Miami upstate from them. No, there will be
    no immediate impact for a new stadium, it’s true. What kind of impact has Werth
    given to D.C.?

    • Cheeseballs 4 years ago

      You don’t create your own pujols. You get lucky in the draft.

      • Lanidrac 4 years ago

        They already did with Miguel Cabrera, but then they couldn’t keep him.  Even a new stadium isn’t going to boost their attendance from the bottom rung all the way to the top half like they seem to think it will, or at least not for more than 1 year.

    • wadecounty561 4 years ago

      Mike Stanton.

  22. bayareabeast 4 years ago

    ya were in on all the big name players..for 200k a year

  23. Andy_B 4 years ago

    Why waste Pujols’ time if you’re not going to top STL’s offer?

  24. The_BiRDS 4 years ago

    Ha ha ha annnnnnnnnnd here we go Miami… bring on the denial

  25. No they need Pujols… they already have a shortstop.

  26. tacko 4 years ago

    I’m guessing they don’t want any of the three. The Orioles have been playing the same game the past few years. Aside from Teixeira, they’ve only given out low-ball offers to free agents to excite their fans in hopes of raising season tickets sales.

  27. OptimisticMarlinsFan 4 years ago

    How do you know the Marlins know what the Cards offer to him was? If I was Albert, I’m not sure I would just tell the Marlins what they offered. I think he loses leverage that way.

  28. They were probably hoping that he would come and love it there and sign a cheaper contract in the heat of the moment. They put pictures up around the stadium of Albert playing… In a Marlins uniform.

  29. Andy_B 4 years ago

    Well it’s been fairly well reported that the deal was somewhere in the neighborhood of 200 Million for 9 years.  And you would think that the Marlins would do their homework before offering such a large amount of money to find out what the offer was.

  30. The_BiRDS 4 years ago

    No they didnt.

  31. Andy_B 4 years ago

    Loria should not get to own an MLB team.

  32. wadecounty561 4 years ago

    Yeah I bet, where is the source?

  33. Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

    They don’t have a shortstop, just somebody playing the position.

  34. Todd Smith 4 years ago

    “Past reports have indicated St. Louis made Pujols an offer of nine years and $210MM before the season, but Crasnick hears that the Cardinals never topped $200MM.”

    The Marlins may actually have the better offer on the table right now.

  35. Andy_B 4 years ago

    Even if the Marlins offer was higher it would be by the smallest of margins, and it would have no chance of luring Pujols away.

  36. Matt Talken 4 years ago

    Not that I think this would be the difference, but consider that Florida has no state income tax.  Offering the same exact contract as St. Louis would involve a decent increase in what he pockets due to that aspect.

    However, I do agree with you.  I don’t think you uproot your life unless either the offer is substantially better or the team is substantially better, and obviously the 2nd part is hard to come by since the Cards just brought home the ‘ship.

  37. Andy_B 4 years ago

    I think to any degree that that matters it’s canceled out by the cost of living in Miami versus St Louis.  Keep in mind the income tax in Missouri isn’t that high, I think that would make a bigger deal in New York or Chicago.

  38. I’m not familiar with St. Louis but the cost of living in Florida is actually very low.

  39. Andy_B 4 years ago

    Might have changed due to the mortgage crisis but when I was picking a new city to live in back in like 2006 a dollar in miami was worth 150 in St Louis.   By comparison a dollar in St louis is worth $3.20 in Manhattan.

  40. Lanidrac 4 years ago

    Maybe so, but St. Louis is one of the cheapest (if not the cheapest) housing markets for a major metro area in the country.

  41. Florida might be low but Miami is 14% higher than the national average.  St. Louis is 10% lower.  That means the Marlins have to offer significantly more just to be on equal footing.

  42. STL Post Dispatch. Go to the website and read the article called,”Should the Cardinals Woo Pujols?”

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