Their names showed up on our list of non-tender candidates yesterday, but Angel Pagan and Mike Pelfrey will be tendered contracts by the Mets, reports Jon Heyman of SI.com (via Twitter). The pair of Mets could earn more than $10MM between them in 2012, according to our projected arbitration salaries. Here are some other notes from the NL East:
- The Phillies are indicating Cole Hamels would cost "three small countries and two oceans" in a trade, according to ESPN.com's Buster Olney (Twitter link). Considering what sort of package it would take to land Hamels, the southpaw likely isn't going anywhere.
- The Mets have a similarly high asking price for David Wright. GM Sandy Alderson says he'll only considering moving Wright "if someone blows us away," tweets Heyman. Joel Sherman of the New York Post wrote earlier today that the Mets would definitely listen on Wright, but probably won't get an offer they like.
- Mark Buehrle's representatives and the Marlins are meeting today at the GM meetings in Milwaukee, tweets Jerry Crasnick of ESPN.com.
- Yoenis Cespedes isn't the only Cuban outfielder to grab the Nationals' attention – Adam Kilgore of the Washington Post writes of the club's interest in 19-year-old Jorge Soler.
- Speaking of Cespedes, the Phillies worked out the 26-year-old in the Dominican Republic, with Pat Gillick in attendance, tweets Jim Salisbury of CSNPhilly.com.
- Mark Zuckerman of CSNWashington.com takes a look at which players the Nationals may protect in this year's Rule 5 draft.
Shouldn’t this be titled quick hits? I don’t see what any of the bullets have to do with Pelfrey or Pagan being tendered. Whatever.
MLBTR likes the page hits from the “LOLMets” contingency.
They’ve been doing this recently. Instead of the headline “NL East Rumors” or whatever, they have had the biggest story in the headline and then lead into other rumors. I think I did like the other way better where the headline actually tells you what you’re about to read. Doesn’t really matter to me though.
I agree. Quick hits was more appealing to me and frankly, some days I just scan over some of the stuff and somedays I don’t want to read about the Met’s so I would have missed content that was relevant to other interests of mine at this time. No bid deal, but the quick hits worked so why change it. Plus who wants to miss more idiocy from the Phillies this offseason.
More idiocy, lol. 5 straight division titles, best record in baseball each of the last two years.
While the success of the Phillies is undeniable, you have to give credit where credit is due, and that is to HoF Pat Gillick. Not Amaro.
STUPID METS GO AWAY
A lack of willingness to trade players for good value may cost GM’s in the future. You’re in a pennant race and you now need my reliever- I’ll take your #1 prospect or you can forget it.
I have a feeling the Phillies would trade Hamels only to turn around and sign Jackson. Which in actuality wouldn’t be such a bad idea. He’s 28 and would be much cheaper than Hamels.
I think they would most likely sign CJ Wilson if they were going to trade Hamels. His production is similar and would probably cost a year or two less.
Jackson is much cheaper for a very good reason – he’s not remotely the pitcher Hamels is.
That is a good idea, I mean Oswalt+Hamels are better than Jackson+Blanton but the Phillies farm system is barren right now and restocking it by trading Hamels might be a very wise move. The Rangers, Royals and Yankees look like good partners. Florida would be too (Lomo+Dominguez?) but trading within a division to a rising team like the Marlins ain’t happening. Hamels is an interesting case, on one hand they have to go all-in while he’s there, but moving him makes sense too.
Pelfrey and Pagan suck this team is a joke
They had nasty seasons, but are good players and have trade value. When did Mets fans become so whiny and self-entitled?
When you say Pelfrey is a good player.. Are you implying he’s good at some other sport, because it can’t be baseball you are talking about
Good in the sense that he can give 200+ innings of above-replacement level baseball, as gut wrenching as they may be. He will appear good to teams needing a durable starter.
Let’s see: ever since we, Mets fans, have to deal with Philadelphia (and apparently now the rest of the NL East) winning; our next door neighbors (read Yankees) winning; and the prospect of being the NL East version of the Baltimore Orioles == very whiny. The self-entitlement comes from being a New York team.
With that said, I would rather tender a contract to both Pagan and Pelfrey. Then trade Pelfrey for prospects (he needs a change of scenery, I wanted him to go to Kansas City before Kansas City got Jonathan Sanchez from San Francisco), trade Murphy for prospects and go from there.
The Orioles have been in that hole for over a decade, at least there is a light at the end of the tunnel for the Mets. And I could care less about what the Phillies or Yankees do, it’s not like when the Braves won literally every year.
The Royals are looking for pitching. They also have those countries and oceans. Just saying.
The Phillies won’t be asking that much when they realize they can’t resign Hamels — at least to a deal he may get on the open market.
why wont the phillies be able to resign hamels, please explain your internal phillies knowledge with the rest of us
Simple. Look at the contracts that the Phillies currently have. Assuming they sign Rollins to 3/30 I would assume they will, wouldn’t they not exceed their highest cap historically? That being said, I think Hamels is gone after ’12.
you realize they have 175 million payroll right? they have won 5 straight divisons and have sold out every game for the past 3 seasons? Amaro has already said they are keeping the same payroll as last year. Plus their tv deal is up after this year? they had 45 million come off the books, they are spending the same amount on a closer this year as they last year. granted lee gets a bump from 11 million to 21 million so that is still 23 million left. oh yea by the way blantons 10 million plus polly 7 million come off next year so does the 3 million to jose contreras. there is another 20 million. now please tell me why they cant sell out every game this year, win the divison and keep the 175 million plus maybe their own network. sounds like just wishful thinkin on your part hoping your yankees can get him
No need to get overly defensive.. Like I said, I think they won’t be able to. Why? Because of the contracts they will have tied up already when Hamels could become a free agent(I’m under the assumption they would make more big moves).
I think the idea is to sign him BEFORE he hits the open market, and if he honestly can’t be signed before FA, they’ll get a pretty big package for him.
Thanks for telling what I could have guessed myself. All I said is that once they realize can’t resign Hamels, if they reach that point, they would have ask for less than what they currently are showing, of course unless they go WS or bust.
Only way I can see that happening is if the Phils add another 4-5 guy that is better than Blanton/Kendrick. If they traded Hamels I could see it being a pitcher for pitcher swap with prospects added in, but I don’t see him leaving a Phillies uniform.
Pelfrey looks to me like a decent innings eater, although I can’t say that I know much else about him. Pagan on the other hand I watched him play in the 2nd half of the season and to me he looked pretty good! I can’t say how he did in the first half , but in the second half, to me at least, he played well. Although a lot of NYM fans seem to disagree. I think if the Mets had let him go, there wouldn’t have been a shortage of teams looking at him!
As for the Marlins, Crap or get off the Pot! Stop dipping your toe. Either sign Buehrle, Reyes, and Pujols or “Get On With It”!
I see the Sillies have been very active, what I want to know is what the heck has the Oriole Front Office been up to, come on people lets go! Get a Move On!
I hope they’re not dipping their toe where they’re… well, you know…
Why would a team blow the Mets away with prospects when they could sign Aramis Ramirez for similar money and keep their prospects?
Most likely because Wright is better than Ramirez and is younger. The latter being the more important factor. Ramirez is getting old and who knows how much longer he has to play? Either way I highly doubt anyone will offer anything crazy for Wright. His value has clearly declined the past few years.
How about Wright for Hamels? The cure for two teams with unrealistic asking prices.
The only explanation for this is that you’re a serious Mets homer.
Or being sarcastic.
I wouldn’t go for that. Hamels would pitch badly on purpose just to spite us.
I love Cole, but wouldn’t mind trading him for the right package. preferably a high ceiling middle IF prospect and SP prospect.
I’m going to somehow manage to throw the Tigers into the mix of this. I do that with all big name trade opportunities. Anyways, what about a deal that is based around Jacob Turner and Nick Castellanos. If there were ever a guy that I think would be worthy of both players, it’s Hamels. He would have to sign an extension for it to work though.
1 year of Hamels for Turner, Castellanos and one more solid prospect is pretty fair.
You would need an extension. I was thinking that Daniel Fields could be the other guy in the trade.
“The Phillies are indicating Cole Hamels would cost “three small countries and two oceans”
Cool. No stress, we’ll just sign him next year when he’s a free agent. Dopes.
P.S Not really the best way to create a market. What they just did was the equivalent of throwing a tree stub in the lake filled with fishing boats.
You’re assuming they’re looking to trade him. There’s been absolutely zero indication of that.
You’re absolutely right and there has been and should be no desire to trade him. However from the business end of it, considering he is only under contract for 1 year, considering the Phillies have a lot of big dollar commitments, why fire a cannonball into the crowd when a only a few rifle rounds are needed. Instead of having a team come knocking saying “what’s up with Cole” next week or next June, you already have the answer (we want your entire farm) and from a business perspective, that’s just a dumb way to handle things. You never know in the game of baseball. You always want to have a market for every one of your players (those without contract contingencies or do not cost too much) to understand their value and who you can pick up the phone and call immediately.
Yeah well the Blue Jays said the same thing about Halladay, and they ended up trading him to us for less than they asked for.
Pagan had a bad year. In his extended playing time in the past, he was a very capable player. In 2009-2010 he had an 8.4 WAR in 239 games. He was one of the best defensive center fielders in that time. I like the move to tender him a contract. If he repeats a 2011 type season, you let him go next winter. Simple as that.
As if the phillies won’t sign Hamels lol.
3 small countries and 2 oceans? Really? You can keep him.
I don’t think they’ll have a problem with that. He should bring back more than Greinke, Garza, Jurrjens or Garza. Wren wants a Greinke like deal for JJ. Hamels has made 21 more starts over the last 2 years. He, easily, should bring more than Jurrjens…
plus the fact that he single handly pitched the phils to the 08 world series win
yea because only CC, Lee, Kershaw and than Hamels as the best lefties in baseball. because 27 year old cy young caliber pitchers grow on trees.
I like the move to tender Pagan. Center fielders are fickle. Beltran’s first season with the Mets was bad too, and Matt Kemp’s 2010 was god-awful. He was like -30 runs at CF. Both responded with MVP calibur seasons. The team’s confidence was shook a little when necessary trades of good players were made. They should be alright next year.
Hmmmm… I wonder if the economy or population of a country will factor into which three small countries they choose. Interesting.
I propose Turkey (makes me hungry), Dominican Republic (grow new players), and Madagascar (I like the movie) for Cole Hamels. Maybe throw in the Atlantic. Last resort though.
Give us the Pacific or gulf of Mexico instead of Atlantic and it’s a deal
Replace Turkey with Cyrus and you got the Pacific.
You’re breaking my balls man, but you have a deal
The island of Cyprus or just any dude with the name Cyrus?
And proof2006, the Gulf of Mexico is part of the Atlantic… Your trade just sounded like the work of Omar Minaya, not Ruben Amaro, Jr.
probably get off cheaper if you just threw in the whole island of hispanola rather than breaking into two , plus Haiti is an untapped wealth of potential ball players
Hmm, good idea. I’ll have my people contact your people.
i don’t think the Phils have a problem paying their own players. Brad Lidge 12.5 per Ryan Howard 25 per Cliff Lee 25 per Halladay 20mil per!
utley got paid pretty well too, and dont forget mistakes like overpaying blanton after the 2008 and dare i even mention adam eaton
Plus, they have the contracts staggered pretty well. After 2011 Oswalt, Lidge and Ibanez came off the books. After 2012, Hamels, Blanton and Victorino come off the books. The following year Pence, Utley and Halliday. Blanton, Victorino and Hamels will be ~ $30 mil. Pence, Utley and Halladay will be ~$50 mil. Enough money comes off each year to add another 2 big contracts…
Alright Philly, I’ll give you Latvia, Montenegro, Panama and Fiji along with the Indian and Arctic Oceans in exchange for Hamels and Oswalt. Fiji alone is worth it simply for the retirement options.