Marlins Sign Heath Bell

The Marlins signed free agent closer Heath Bell, reports ESPN's Jayson Stark.  The deal is worth $27MM over three years and it contains a vesting option for a fourth year worth $9MM.  The team officially announced the deal today.  Bell is represented by ACES.

Bell, 34, has been one of the top closers in baseball over the last three seasons, taking over from Trevor Hoffman as the Padres' stopper and recording a 2.36 ERA with 132 saves and 216 strikeouts in 202 1/3 innings.  Bell did record a career-low 7.3 K/9 last season, however, so this deal (like any multiyear deal to a closer in his 30's) certainly carries some risk for Miami, especially since we don't know if their new stadium will be hitter- or pitcher-friendly.

The Padres had an interest in re-signing Bell but only to a two-year contract.  Dan Mennella of Closer News projects Ernesto Frieri and Luke Gregerson as San Diego's eighth- and ninth-inning options for the time being, though the Padres could bring in another reliever who has more closing experience.

Bell was a Type A free agent heading into the offseason, and under the old collective bargaining agreement, the Padres would've been entitled to a first-round compensation pick and the Marlins' second round pick (their first-rounder is protected).  Under the new CBA, however, the Padres still get that first round compensation pick but the Marlins don't have to give up a draft pick for Bell.  Instead, San Diego will receive the pick in the slot directly in front of the Marlins' second-round selection, so this means the Padres are slated to pick ninth overall in the second round.  Miami retains its second round pick and just gets bumped down to the tenth selection of the second round.

Bell could be the first of several big signings by the Marlins, who have linked to such major free agents as Albert Pujols, Jose Reyes, C.J. Wilson and Mark Buehrle this offseason as the club looks to contend in its first season in its new stadium. MLBTR's Howard Megdal correctly predicted the Bell-Marlins pairing in MLBTR's free agent prediction contest.

It was first reported by Jim Bowden of MLB Network Radio that Bell was close to a deal with an unknown team.  The Marlins were known to be Bell's most ardent suitors with the Blue Jays, Angels and Red Sox also mentioned as possible candidates.  Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports had the details on the amount of the vesting option (Twitter link).


313 Responses to Marlins Sign Heath Bell Leave a Reply

  1. OptimisticMarlinsFan 4 years ago

    1 down, 2 or 3 to go!

    • NickinIthaca 4 years ago

      I like it because your name says it all.

    • The_BiRDS 4 years ago

      Alright, Marlins actually signed someone.. and a pretty legit closer. Now they just have to figure out how to get the lead in a ballgame before they close it out.

      • Jimmy Jackson 4 years ago

        …and the closer has a real name this time!

  2. diesel2410 4 years ago

    Damn! Marlins aren’t messing around! Screw the Phillies, I hope the Fish are at the top soon.

    • nm344 4 years ago

      How? By signing an overrated reliever?

      • diesel2410 4 years ago

        Overrated? Explain

        • nepp 4 years ago

          Well, in a way, all closers are overrated…at least if we go by their salaries. 

          • diesel2410 4 years ago

            Well yeah, salary wise…but he’s one of the best. Just look at the Phillies’ deal for Papelbon. Pathetic

          • nepp 4 years ago

            As a Phillies fan, I completely agree. Hell, if his option vests, they’ll end up giving him 5 years, $63 million…brutal deal for a reliever.

          • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

            If the option vests, hopefully it means he’s pitching well.

            I think if any reliever is worth it, it’s Jonathan Papelbon…

            I think Ruben should have waited a little bit longer. It’s not my money though so I could care less as long as they sign a bat of somesort.

          • diesel2410 4 years ago

            Phillies will keep him if he’s under 3.50. Not good enough

          • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

            Money wise, I think Papelbon got a fair deal given the fact he’s the best closer not named Mariano Rivera (arguably) I think he gets $12-$13 million dollars regardless. I don’t like the fourth guaranteed year.

            Like I said, hopefully it means he’s pitching well, not neccesarily means he will, but I hope that’s the case. I’d rather pay him into his age 35 season than Bell into his 36.

          • diesel2410 4 years ago

            I just wanna see how skinny this gets. So keep replying at will. 

          • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

            I think it cuts off the screen at some point… at least that’s how it used to go.

          • athensmatt 4 years ago

            You think?  I wonder if we can get to the point that it will be one word per line.  

          • diesel2410 4 years ago

            Idon’tknowlet’stryit

          • Dylan 4 years ago

            I said this as soon as I saw the deal, I would take Papelbon, contract and all, over this deal with Bell. I do not think he will be the same pitcher without Petco.

            I really like him too, seems like a standup guy and does things for the right reasons, but in order for him to keep up his pace and numbers, he will have to learn to strike out more hitters, and I don’t see that happening.

          • sports33 4 years ago

            I beg your pardon?

          • Tko11 4 years ago

            Disqus fails

        • OverWEIGHTED*** 

          Sorry about the misunderstanding. 

          Oh btw.. He’s also overrated. 

        • Dylan 4 years ago

          From Fangraphs:

          However, before any team ponies up for Bell’s services, I’d hope that they’d ask themselves just how much of Bell’s success will follow him if he leaves San Diego.

          It’s no secret that Petco Park is the best place in baseball to pitch, and specifically, that it is almost impossible for left-handed batters to hit home runs there. After all, park effects aren’t a new or controversial subject, and there’s not much subjectivity in the data – pitchers who ply their trade in San Diego post numbers that they simply can’t post in other cities. Their numbers – especially in the area of home run prevention – are artificially deflated by the environment in which they pitch half of their games.

          Bell is one of the signature beneficiares of how the park plays. In his career, he’s faced 791 batters in San Diego – 10 of them have managed to hit the ball over the wall, one for every 79.1 batters he faced. Away from the friendly confines, he has faced 1,182 batters and allowed 20 home runs, one for every 59.1 batters that have come up to bat against him. His home run prevention has been 34 percent better in San Diego than in all other ballparks, which of course makes perfect sense, given that he’s a right-handed pitcher and fly balls to right field in Petco have almost no chance of reaching the seats.

          The park hasn’t just deflated his home run rate either – his career BABIP in San Diego is just .269, but his combined average against on balls in play in all other parks is .334. His BABIP away from San Diego is likely higher than his true talent level, and I wouldn’t suggest that teams should expect Bell to become eminently hittable upon signing with a new team, but the evidence shows that Bell has never been able to perform well on balls in play in any stadium besides Petco Park. At the minimum, that has to be concerning.

          If Bell had been able to maintain his peak walk and strikeout rates in 2011, perhaps these tidbits would just be footnotes, but his K% fell from 30.0% in 2010 to 19.9% in 2011. It wasn’t just that Bell decided to throw more strikes, either – his contact rate jumped from 73.6% to 81.8%. Relievers are prone to variance in all status due to the small quantity of innings that they throw, so Bell’s regression may prove to be more outlier than sign of drastic decline, but it can’t be considered a good sign for his future that the one skill that should travel best took a big step in the wrong direction last year.

          Bell’s never been a great command guy, but his combination of high strikeout rates and minuscule home run rates have more than made up for his propensity to issue a few walks. Unless a team also figures out how to sign Petco Park simultaneously, his home run prowess almost certainly won’t follow him to a new city, and so the strikeout rate would have to return to elite levels for Bell to maintain his status as a top-notch closer. It’s possible that his downturn in strikeout rate last year was a fluke, but is it really a good idea to bet a three year deal on a 34-year-old reliever hoping that his most recent K% isn’t a sign that he might be on the downside of his career?

          • wadecounty561 4 years ago

            tl;dr, we’ll see if the new ballpark is a hitters or pitchers park and if Bells talents transition to south beach.

          • From an upcoming article on Websoulsurfer

            Heath Bell: Park Independent
            Stats & HR/9- 2007-2011 & 2009-2011

            Receivers with minimum of 60 games per season

            ERA +
            2007-2011 – 150
            Rank among relievers over period – 7th 
            2009-2011 – 157
            Rank among closers – 3rd

            xFIP
            2007-2011 – 3.20
            Rank among relievers over period – 7th

            2009-2011
            – 3.19 – Rank among closers – 2nd

            HR/9 Overall
            2007-2011 – .40
            Rank among relievers – 6th
            2009-2011 – .36
            Rank amongst closers – 2nd

            HR/9 Away
            2007-2011 – .306
            Rank among relievers – #1
            2009-2011 – .306 
            Rank among closers – #1

            Fangraphs should do more research before they post that garbage.

        • Karkat 4 years ago

          Bell’s peripherals/saber stats and his road splits make him out to be pretty mediocre in my mind.

      • johnsilver 4 years ago

        Even if some are correct and his saves are the product of Petco… If the new stadium plays anything like Land Shark did.. He shouldn’t miss a beat… That stadium falls into old Comisky/Petco/The Ravine etc.. as horrible hitters parks…

  3. Chipper_is_GOD 4 years ago

    OMG

    They weren’t joking this offseason

    • LA 4 years ago

      Its one signing and they are pretty much like the Jays. They are rumored to be interested…and that’s about it!!!

  4. OH COME ON

    – jays fan

    • Chris Whitby 4 years ago

      Did you really want to pay Bell $9MM a year through his age 36 season

      • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

        I think Ryan Madson would be a great fit for the Blue Jays if they can work it out monetarily.

        • Lunchbox45 4 years ago

          madsons going to get 4-5 years..

          i like him… but bj ryan still stings

          • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

            I don’t see that deal out there for him. I think he’s going to have to either accept arbitration (which I’m fine with… not my money and that bullpen would be sick) or settle for three years.

            He’s down to Toronto, Boston, and LAA that might be able to afford him money wise. I don’t see any of those teams giving him beyond 3 years.

            Accepting arbitration might get him a better deal next year with a team like New York (Scott Boras thought he was a young Rivera), or maybe LA has some more money to spend, etc.

          • Lunchbox45 4 years ago

            theres probably still some times off that list, but I cant see him not getting 4 years atleast..

            orioles, mets could all be in play too and might be more inclined for a bit of an overpay

        • eyedessert 4 years ago

          I get the feeling that Madson would be FAR more overpaid than Bell. Madson will most likely demand almost as much as Papelbon.

    • sports33 4 years ago

      You’re sad about this?

  5. OMG if this doesnt prove the Marlins are serious what will? So happy being a marlins fan right now 😀

    • Lastings 4 years ago

      Savor the moment…

    • catch21_2 4 years ago

      I don’t know.  Sign a guy that will play more than sixty innings, perhaps?

    • eyedessert 4 years ago

      They could acquire Pujols, Reyes, Verlander, Cliff Lee, and Halladay and people would STILL whine about the Marlins “not being serious enough.”

    • JST1331 4 years ago

      Its good to hear there are some passionate Marlins fans out there. Not to bash you or anything but please go to your new stadium!

  6. nm344 4 years ago

    Nice payday for Bell. 

  7. woooooooooow. One of the only people they haven’t publicly be all over

  8. Encarnacion's Parrot 4 years ago

    As a Jays fan: THANK YOU!

  9. Awesome~! Marlins are going to be a force this coming season.

    • bravesdude 4 years ago

      Yeah , that #3 spot in the division is looking like its almost a lock for you guys .

      • Chipper_is_GOD 4 years ago

        I lol’d

      • NL_East_Rivalry 4 years ago

        Hey, they can still make it into the play-offs. One game decider with the Phils.

        • Chipper_is_GOD 4 years ago

          Yep, that’s what I was thinking too 😀

        • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

          *Braves :)

          I’m still waiting for the Nationals before I decide who’s the third best team in the Division, arguably the league. I thought the Braves were a heck of a team last year. (minus the collapse obviously).

          • Chipper_is_GOD 4 years ago

            Phillies and Braves will be in the 2012 NLCS. Book it. It won’t matter who the Marlins or Nats get, we’ll still have better teams.

          • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

            No problem with that prediction. I think that would be a great match up. I think it would add a lot to whatever rivalry exists between the two teams.

            I’m excited to see how this offseason pans out in the NL East.

          • NYBravosFan10 4 years ago

            Much agreed. Despite hating each other teams, me and you tend to agree on a lot don’t we? Unless I’m getting you confused with someone else. All The Philly fans on here have the word “aces” in their name…for obvious reasons

          • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

            It was “Four_Aces.” I hope not a lot of Phillies fans use that in their title, I try to be original.

          • MB923 4 years ago

            I could be wrong, but wasn’t there a rule in the new CBA that Division winners can now play the Wild Card winner in the opening round? (Assuming the division winner has the best record in the league)?

            Or was that only in discussions?

          • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

            Yes that’s possible now. If not in the NLCS they’ll meet in the NLDS.

            Completely forgot about that.

          • MB923 4 years ago

            As I said I could be wrong. I don’t think that rule was put in place yet. I looked at the new CBA rules and it doesn’t say that, or at least I can’t really find it, but I do recall that being in discussion.

          • bravesdude 4 years ago

            Phillie fans , I’m not trying to be mean . Honestly I’m not .

            But whats so great about the Braves , and the Nats(seeing how you brought them up) is the fact that both teams are really young and will be getting even younger next year . At least the Braves for sure will with Chipper leaving . Both farm systems are fairly well stocked with talent . Both of these teams are going to be good for years .

            The downside is , the Philies are fetting older , the mets have a team who may end up losing their best player , and the Marlins (who just got a little better by adding Heath bell) have some good young players but only have one great pitcher . And teams like the Braves , Giants , Cardinals , and Phillies have all proved to be competitive you have to have good pitching and defense . Offense alone won’t get you to the playoffs anymore .

            Don’t get mad at me Marlins fans . You have some really good young talents . But after Josh Johnson and Heath Bell , you don’t really have much left for pitching after that .

          • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

            My comment wasn’t serious at all, which I tried to make obvious with the “:)” so don’t take what I said too seriously.

            I think the Braves, if they stay healthy, could win the division as soon as next year. They should have in 2010.

            I don’t see the Phillies missing the playoffs anytime soon though. Even though they are getting older, as long as they can field an 88 win team, they’ll be in contention for a playoff spot.

          • bravesdude 4 years ago

            No biggie . I agree as long as the Phillies , like the Braves can stay healthy , they’ll both be fine .

      • wadecounty561 4 years ago

        we’ll see about that. can’t wait to see freeman fall off like heyward did :)

        • Chipper_is_GOD 4 years ago

          Can’t wait to see the Marlins rotation totally fall to pieces either. Oh wait, that already happened in 2011

          • Yeah you guys did great in the playoffs this year.

          • Chipper_is_GOD 4 years ago

            And so were the Red Sox.

            Serioulsy, the playoff jokes don’t hurt us. tbh a lot of us are happy we lost out. Because it pissed off our front office and their fixing problems now.

          • What exactly has been fixed so far? Not trying to be rude, genuinely curious. 

          • Chipper_is_GOD 4 years ago

            D.Lowe is gone, A-Gon is gone, Scott Proctor, Linebrink, and Sherril are gone. And then we fired our hitting coach.

          • MB923 4 years ago

            Sherrill had a pretty good year. And Proctor was gone midway during the season.

          • imachainsaw 4 years ago

            so you’re left with more holes to fill? that’s not exactly ‘fixing’ anything.

          • Chipper_is_GOD 4 years ago

            More holes to fill?

            We have a never ending list of top prospect pitchers. All our holes were already filled the second we let all the pitchers go. All we need is a SS

          • ZZZZZIPPP 4 years ago

            WHERE IS THIS LIST THAT DEFIES THE LAWS OF PHYSICS?

          • vtadave 4 years ago

            Yeah I always enjoy when my team misses out on the playoffs.

          • NL_East_Rivalry 4 years ago

            If Braves got in the play-offs Phils would be celebrating another WS win.

          • bravesdude 4 years ago

            Much better than not having to have to worry about the playoffs even before the All Star break .

          • bravesdude 4 years ago

            All it’s gonna take is for Johnson to get hurt again . He is their rotation .

          • wadecounty561 4 years ago

            Javier did pretty damn well at the end of the season, Ricky and Anibal can be pretty hit and miss but when they’re in a groove they do some serious work. so no, Johnson is not our rotation, he’s our heart of our rotation but not when he’s on the DL.

        • bravesdude 4 years ago

          Freddie and Jason’s approach on the ball are different form each others . I honestly think that Freddie’s career could be better than Jason’s .

          • NL_East_Rivalry 4 years ago

            more consistent yes. If Heyward doesn’t fix his problems, he wont be the wonder boy, but he has a lot more potential. Maybe not far more or way more, but a lot more.

      • So the Red Sox will finish 4th?

      • Amish_willy 4 years ago

        Did you know that the 641 runs the Braves scored in 2011 was their fewest since 1994?

        I get the Marlins jabs, if my team finished in first place two seasons and won 101 games each of those years, only to have another team in the division win the wild card and go on to win the World Series, I’d be bitter too. Some grudges never heal.  

        It’s crazy, the Marlins have been to the playoffs twice and won the World Series each time. The Braves on the otherhand have advanced to the post-season 17 times and only won the whole thing once. Or possibly better put, despite the Marlins NEVER winning the division they have twice as many rings as a team that has lead the division 16 times.
        I don’t want to look too deep into the well, but the Braves don’t need any bad Karma sent their way. They end the year in 4th or 5th place it’s on your hands, dude.

        • MB923 4 years ago

          1994 was the strike year though. When was the last time they scored that low of an amount in a full season?

      • wait_HOWmanyrings 4 years ago

        NL east is going to be absolutely sick. Mets are the only team i expect to finish under .500

    • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

      Kudos to the Marlins and stepping up to the plate and showing pl they are serious.

  10. Ferrariman 4 years ago

    totally saw that coming

  11. Tony 4 years ago

    Whew!  I was doubtful AA would be this stupid, but am glad temptation is off the table.

  12. greengrove 4 years ago

    As a Padre fan, I am extraordinarily glad we did not match that offer.

    • greengrove 4 years ago

      Also, incredibly happy it was the Marlins who ended up signing him. 9th overall pick as compensation for a lost free agent? Thank goodness for the new CBA.

      • Seriously, just phenomenal. Looks like we’ll have two top ten picks to add to an already strong farm system.

        • nats2012 4 years ago

          Marlins dont lose that pick. And you guys do have a loaded system.

          • Ohhhplease 4 years ago

            Pads have the #7 and now #9…wonder if their cap increases with the number of picks.

          • sports33 4 years ago

            They don’t get that pick.

          • Article says they get the pick in front of Miami’s. Miami didn’t have to give up a pick.

            Edit: Article was updated, Padres will get the pick in front of the Marlins’ second rounder

          • sports33 4 years ago

            They get the pick in front of Miami’s second rounder. I believe the article clarified this now, but I think it was wrong to start with.

          • Polishuk blew it. No more protected picks under new CBA, Padres pick in front of Marlins for modified type A free agent.

          • vtadave 4 years ago

            9th pick of the SECOND round bud…

  13. alot of money for a closer

    • mmwatkin 4 years ago

      Rivera: $15M
      Rodriguez: $12.3M
      Papelbon: $11M
      Valverde: $9M

      Hell, even Joe Nathan got $14.5M over two years. Welcome to the new market for late inning guys

      • Plus look at what the Yankees gave Soriano to be a set up man.

        • cacavolante 4 years ago

          what the yankees do in any situation doesnt really apply to a discussion involving any other team…

  14. WasianCU 4 years ago

    Seems like the Marlins got a pretty deal for Bell.  I thought he might get a little bit more with the solid seasons he has had.  Of course, if his declining peripherals the last couple seasons continue, this may turn into a lemon.

    • bravesdude 4 years ago

      I hear lemonade is HUGE in Florida .

      • eyedessert 4 years ago

        I hear Kool-Aid is HUGE in Atlanta.

        • bravesdude 4 years ago

          As well as winning . Not so much in Florida though , unless you are a Rays fan .

          • Omar Infante off Craig Kimbrell…best win of the season.

          • bravesdude 4 years ago

            That one win must seem like alot for a team that didn’t have as many as everyone else . Good for the Marlins for getting at least that one win .

            Meanwhile , keep looking up in this division to see the rest of the NL east .

  15. OaklandFan22 4 years ago

    First big move

  16. This doesn’t sound right. Meh at least they kept it under 30, these closers are getting way too much money.

  17. vonhayesdays 4 years ago

    splash , their goes the big winter signing, its a good one though 

  18. nepp 4 years ago

    Kinda puts the Papelbon deal into perspective, eh?  Major overpay by the Phillies.

    • jdt96 4 years ago

      Huh, not a huge fan of the Papelebon deal but he’s younger, better and put up his numbers in much less pitcher friendly environment (park and division) than Bell. Actually makes the Papelbon deal look good

    • nm344 4 years ago

      No.. No it doesnt.  Papelbon is way better

    • cacavolante 4 years ago

      both contracts are dumb

    • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

      Years? Yes. Dollars? No. Papelbon was making $12 million dollars last year.

      I’m never a big fan of a four year deal for any pitcher, reliever or starter… but it’s not that much of an overpay for arguably the 2nd best or 3rd best closer in the game.

  19. ty fish.

    signed,
    all jays fans

    • LA 4 years ago

      How? 3 years for 9 million a year is not bad for a good closer. This is the type of deal AA should have done to improve our closer situation.

      • sports33 4 years ago

        How sure are you that he’s a good closer?

        • nats2012 4 years ago

          Bell is a good closer.

          • sports33 4 years ago

            You make many good points. I’m not sure how to respond to them all.

          • nats2012 4 years ago

            I rather have Bell over Madson, Bell throws 95 – 97 mph and has a plus curve ball.

          • sports33 4 years ago

            I could be wrong, but I think FanGraphs had him at around 93 or 94 last year, right in line with his career average.

          • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

            Madson has one of the best right handed change ups in the game. He’s 93-94 but he also induces a lot of ground balls to go along with a solid k-rate.

            What you said about Bell is true though. He’s got great stuff.

          • Then why’d the Phils let him go for Pap for double?

  20. AirmanSD 4 years ago

    9 million per doesn’t seem that bad, almost wish the Padres had paid that. But in the end that still would have been close to 20% of payroll given the projected numbers.

  21. Onetimeaccount 4 years ago

    I’d like to see what he could have done in the ALEast.

  22. JacksTigers 4 years ago

    Finally some results. I was getting sick of all talk with them. Good for Miami.

  23. nm344 4 years ago

    Wonder what the vesting option is.  And for how much.

  24. if you think about it if they would have signed leo nunez it would have been for 6 million so its only 3 million more for bell not that bad.

  25. notsureifsrs 4 years ago

    great news

    -most non-marlins fans

    • Karkat 4 years ago

      I’m just happy the Sox didn’t make that sort of commitment to a mediocre closer.

      • Amish_willy 4 years ago

        Mediocre? Only 2 relievers have more strikeouts then Heath Bell over the last 5 years. NO closers have saved more games then Bell’s 132 over the past three years (when he became a closer).

        • Karkat 4 years ago

          I find it hard to believe he can carry that level of eliteness with him outside of San Diego.  His ERA is far below his SIERA and xFIP values, which is not surprising, really, since PETCO is, well, PETCO.  I’m not expecting him to be BAD (as you noted, his K numbers have been good, despite this past season’s dip), but I’d hold off on calling him an elite closer until he proves he can manage to do what he does outside of San Diego.  Over the past four seasons, his road ERA has been, on average, .78 higher than his home ERA (and that’s counting 2010, when he did better on the road), so there’s reason to be pessimistic.

          All that aside, he WILL be better than Nunez, and without the issues. I’m still calling it an overpay, though.

  26. LA 4 years ago

    The question is..will Marlin Fans actually show up to games?

    • Encarnacion's Parrot 4 years ago

      Only for the 9th inning I guess.

      • LA 4 years ago

        isn’t that Miami Heat fans? who show up late into the second quarter of every game. haha

        • Karkat 4 years ago

          I hear the Heat are going to be sharing Bell with the Marlins to offset the cost, since LeBron can’t close to save his life.

    • Chipper_is_GOD 4 years ago

      They always show up to the games. But only about 12 a night.

      • tacko 4 years ago

        There’s been a spike of Marlin-affiliated accounts on this sites lately. That number might graze the triple digits next season.

        • vonhayesdays 4 years ago

          their are alot of marlins fans on this site , one of them told me they just a got a baseball team down there after the other one left in 2003 

        • bravesdude 4 years ago

          LOL . They may actually have to hire more than one janitor to clean up the other section of seats that was use that night .

          • Chipper_is_GOD 4 years ago

            hahaha

            I remember mainly this season, during games on TV it was so quite in the stadium you could hear peoples conversations and babies crying. So funny.

  27. Wow the Padres couldn’t offer that? 

    • giantsfan4life 4 years ago

      The Padres payroll for the entire 25 man roster was barely $50M last year. Giving nearly $10M per year to one player is something they just don’t do.

      • True, but the new CBA is going to force small market teams to spend. Plus, I thought he said he would do a hometown discount. 

    • AirmanSD 4 years ago

      The bigger question for Padres fans is not if they could have matched it, but what does the compensation look like? Two supplemental picks?

      I could see 3 years from the Padres, but the 4th vesting would have been too much for the Padres and rightfully so considering the situation in SD.

  28. Jose_Bautista 4 years ago

    Haha nice,

    I definitely didnt want Jays to get him. Good for Marlins, they have cash and he will definitely prosper in NL-East.

    Good Luck, decent deal. Probably 2 best closers in same division.

    Now Jays, time to bring in your secret weapon to do the closing job.

    “NESTOR MOLINA”

    • Chipper_is_GOD 4 years ago

      “Probably 2 best closers in same division”

      3

      Kimbrel
      Paps
      Bell

      • JacksTigers 4 years ago

        I’d put Bell ahead of Paps.

        • nepp 4 years ago

          I wouldn’t…and neither would reality.  Not at this point in their respective careers anyway.

          • Yea because bell has blown playoff games and blew game 162 last year. oh wait that was paps? umm well paps ummm ummm is taller?

          • nepp 4 years ago

            Tough to blow playoff games when you never play in them.

        • John DiRienzo 4 years ago

          you’re likely alone

        • Ohhhplease 4 years ago

          Only you and his mom would do that, and she in on the fence.

      • nats2012 4 years ago

        How about Drew Storen?

        • NYBravosFan10 4 years ago

          The four teams in the NL East have phenomenal closers. Def one of of the better bullpen divisions

        • bravesdude 4 years ago

          He would be second best if you ask me .

          Kimbrel , Storen , Paps(may take him a month to adjust to NL hitters) , and then Bell(doesn’t fair near as well according to his history to the NL east as he does to the rest of the NL) .

          • I actually think it’s the other way around. It will take more than a month for NL hitter to adjust to Paps.

          • bravesdude 4 years ago

            You may be right . Time will tell how well he transitions over .

      • Tko11 4 years ago

        and then you have the Mets closer…

    • grownice 4 years ago

       “TAKE A CHANCE WITH JANSSEN.”

      – BLEACHER CREATURE

  29. Holidayjesus 4 years ago

    inb4 Ozzie calls him fat. 

  30. nats2012 4 years ago

    Thats a good sign by the Marlins.

  31. Solid sign for the Marlins! To a fairly reasonable deal…

  32. Madman2TX 4 years ago

    I kind of hope by now that Bell heard from his agent, since he just said nothing was happening in terms of any deals.

  33. nepp 4 years ago

    How do you figure?  Is it his road ERA that’s a full run higher outside of Petco?  Is it his poor splits against the Braves, Phillies and even the Nats?

    Somewhat confused on why a move from the weakest division in the NL to the strongest along with a move out of a pitcher’s paradise will help Heath out.

    • vonhayesdays 4 years ago

      i think mr z just likes to type the word rape 

    • bravesdude 4 years ago

      I was gonna reply to that guy who said Bell was gonna sexually molest the our division , but they removed his comment . So I had to put it your reply nepp . Sorry guy .

      He’ll do ok . But he won’t be the same closer in this division as he was in that west division .

      Career ERA’s against NL east:

      Braves=4.85 in 26 innnings
      Phillies=2.93 in 30.2 innings (which wasn’t too bad)
      Nationals=3.42 in 26.1 innings
      Mets=3.02 in 17.2 innings

      But last year he faired ok against the Braves blowing one save with an ERA of 2.25 , did great against the Phillies not allowing a run in 2.0 innings .

      But against the Nats he had an era of 6.00 in 3.0 innings and against the Mets his ERA was 8.10 in 3.1 innings .

      So he will definitely not be near as dominate as you may think in our division .

  34. thekoshow 4 years ago

    The Marlins FINALLY sign someone. Thank God.

  35. ehsank24 4 years ago

    I am pissed off as a Marlin fan. WTF!

    • wadecounty561 4 years ago

      …why? this solves a huge problem of ours. 

    • Amish_willy 4 years ago

      Well, out of the three former padre relievers that will be in the Marlins pen next year, Bell is by far the best. Only two relievers in the game (Marmol & Paps) have struck out more batters over the last 5 years. He’ll scare the crap out of you from time to time by putting on a baserunner or two in a one run game, but very rarily will he not pull it off.

      Since becoming a closer three years ago, Bell has 10 more saves then any other closer in the game, and two of those seasons were with teams that loss 87 & 91 games.

      • johnnycomelately9 4 years ago

        You hit a point that so many foolish posters miss.  “Only two relievers in the game have struck out more batters over the last 5 years.”  Bells numbers are of such quality that anyone that argues against them will lose.  Thus they point to his declining strike out rate.  Geez people, the dude has only been the 3rd best rp at k’ing ppl over the last decade.  Are you really going to get mad at him for not improving in that area in 2011?

  36. So the Marlins signed a closer! Um dont they have to actually be winning in the 9th for this guy to do any work? haha!!! Unless theyre changing the entire rest of the team, this signing means absolutely nothing. Oh and as a Yankees fan, 2 words……MARIANO RIVERA! Now that is a CLOSER!!!

    • tacko 4 years ago

      You’re right. Teams below .500 shouldn’t be allowed to sign any free agents. Ever. There’s just no point. Good players should just be mandated to sign with the Yankees for the good of baseball.

    • LA 4 years ago

      You mean he is “closer” to retirement

    • InLeylandWeTrust 4 years ago

      Nice ending for your first post. Stick around….

    • NOOOO ANOTHER PAUL!

      And a yankees fan? Ugghghhghghghghghghgh

  37. Thank god it wasn’t the jays

  38. ryankeelan 4 years ago

    The marlins have a good shot to win the division this year depending on who else they sign!

  39. As a marlins fan I feel safe in saying “Damnit”
    fairly reasonable sign as compared to other closers on the market….but still too much spent on him. Money better served at SP/Reyes/CF

    • Just because they spent money on Bell doesn’t mean they still won’t go after Reyes and a SP

      • yea.
        I was hoping for a 2-3 starter (Buehrle/trade) and Reyes
        But also signing a RP 1y/4M (potential closer) and a 5 Starter (Francis?)

        none of that is ruled out…I just think this deal lowers the chances of it happening and 9M/y is overpaying a closer imo. 

  40. NYBravosFan10 4 years ago

    Something I saw today…has anyone ever seen BASEketball? The Miami Marlins “MIAMI” words look strangely similar to the Miami jerseys from that movie. If that’s where the organization got the idea then…wow…

  41. MetsEventually 4 years ago

    Probably have less money now then the Mets do. 

  42. baybombers 4 years ago

    what they’ll probably get reyes and bell?

  43. LA 4 years ago

    Jays fan who are happy we did not sign Bell should really wake up. Marlins signed him to a bargain and just to let you know….We need a Closer!

    • OaklandFan22 4 years ago

      you guys’ll probably get bailey

    • grownice 4 years ago

       3 years plus a vestiing option for 4th year for  a closer whos 34… not a bargain. AA was wise to pass.

      • LA 4 years ago

        How likely will the vesting option happen anyways? About if brings in 2 Good quality years and the last so so.

      •   Billy Wagner says hi

        • grownice 4 years ago

           So does Mariano Rivera.. whats your point? To point out the exceptions? Thanks…

      • johnnycomelately9 4 years ago

        Wrong!  Whatever option he goes with, they’ll perform worse than Bell over the next 3 years.  That’s a confident prediction.

        He’s so busy trying to be smart that he was too dumb to get a shut down closer for 9 mill a year.  

        • grownice 4 years ago

           I would wager that Janssen would have had a better stat line then Bell would if he were in the AL East. But i guess we’ll never know, 4 possible years for a closer who’s park helped his stats significantly? AA is better off signing K-Rod or letting Janssen try out the closer spot.

          • slider32 4 years ago

            That’s smart, have tryouts on the major league team.

          • grownice 4 years ago

             Try outs? Do you follow the Jays? Janssen had a solid year. Id rather give Janssen the role and not waste 30 + mm on a closer who’s stats away from petco will be significantly worse once he came to the AL East pitching in the Rogers Centre… If he does sign anyone its a much better option to try n get K-Rod or Cordero for something like 2 years with a club option instead of committing 3 years( possibly 4 if it vests)  to a guy in his mid 30’s.

      • slider32 4 years ago

        The Jays have all the money, but wouldn’t pull the trigger!

        • grownice 4 years ago

           Just because you can afford something doesn’t mean its always wise to , you have lots to learn grasshoppa.

  44. ryankeelan 4 years ago

    If the marlins get reyes they will make the playoffs easily

  45. Sd_brain 4 years ago

    But what if the Marlins sign Reyes, what pick would the Padres get?

    • AirmanSD 4 years ago

      I am not sure if I am reading the CBA right, but according to what I can tell, the Marlins would still have to give up a pick to get Reyes, and they can not give up a top 10 pick. I am not really sure how that would work. It seems unfair that the Padres get a top 10 pick for Bell but the Mets get a 2nd rounder for Reyes. I would assume that the Mets and Padres get picks ahead of the Marlins, though I have no idea on the order.

      • Sd_brain 4 years ago

        yeah its confusing, hopefully we get to keep the pick and just have the mets choose ahead of us.

      • The Padres DON’T get a top 10 pick.  This post is wrong.  They will get the supplemental pick and the pick in front of the Marlins 2nd rounder.

        • Sd_brain 4 years ago

          Ahh now that makes more sense, more the reason i wanted the jays to pick him up. Oh well

        • slider32 4 years ago

          With those picks you could do just as well in the 3rd and 4th round.

      • The Marlins pick is protected

  46. Kinda figured they were serious about this one.  Bell’s good enough to want but not high profile enough for feigning interest as a publicity stunt.

  47. AirmanSD 4 years ago

    From what I am hearing the Padres will not get the 9th pick in the draft. The top 10 are protected. The Padres apparently will get a supplemental pick along with a pick right in front of the Marlins 2nd round pick. (Please tell me that isn’t true)

    • Yes, that’s true.  The rule for the modified As is that they get the pick in front of the one they would have gotten under the old system, which in this case would be the Marlins 2nd rounder.

      • Actually no protected picks under the new CBA. Padres get pick in front of 1st round pick for modified type A free agent.

    • daveypinstripes 4 years ago

      Seems to be some confusion on this.

      • Only confusion because Mark Polishuk got it wrong.  The Padres get the 9th pick (assuming no other movement ahead in the round) of the 2nd round.

  48. MShowerhead 4 years ago

    It makes sense.  I think Heath Bell excels in the warmer climates, as he’s a high energy guy and he can channel his energy on his performance, not staying warm.  They still have some work to do, as you gotta be ahead at the end of the game to get those saves!

    • InLeylandWeTrust 4 years ago

      “I think Heath Bell excels in the warmer climates, as he’s a high energy guy and he can channel his energy on his performance, not staying warm.”

      We’re really grasping for straws here, aren’t we?

      • grownice 4 years ago

         I was thinking the same, like is there players that thrive more in the cold? Like don’t all athletes prefer warmth…you know like with the rest of humanity?

      • MShowerhead 4 years ago

        Not really.  Bell wasn’t very good in NY and he found his niche in San Diego.  If you watch the way he plays, he plays with high energy and if you’ve been to Sand Diego, you’d know that the weather is basically perfect there.  My initial thought when it came down to Toronto and Miami was that he’d go to Miami because of the weather.  I mean… think about it, it’s not because they’re a good team!

    • Cavman_Boland 4 years ago

      I hope thats a joke…

  49. rsanchez1 4 years ago

    FINALLY.  Hopefully the first of many for the Fish. They promised more, at least.

  50. sports33 4 years ago

    And to think, he put up his Christmas lights yesterday…

  51. Darmintak 4 years ago

    At least he’s out of the NL West.

  52. His velocity is down.

  53. MacK Korris 4 years ago

    $9M annually is not bad at all.

  54. So if they sign Albert, do the Cards get the 10th overall pick and Marlins to eleven or do we get a second rounder?

    • tacko 4 years ago

      Second rounder. Marlins have a protected first-round pick and the “jump-pick” only refers to modified type-A free agents.

      I know. It’s BS. The Phillies are likely to get a better pick losing Madson than the Cardinals would losing Pujols.

    • Cards would get supplemental pick and the pick in front of Fish in 2nd round. Pads 2nd pick would move to in front of Marlins 3rd round pick due to Pujols higher ranking under Elias. Old rules still apply this year except signing team does not give up pick. Marlins first pick was protected so neither team would pick ahead of Marlins in first round. Could be wrong but that is how I see it.

  55. “Wait someone accepted one of our contracts?!?!?!?!”-Marlins. 

  56. cecil_fielder 4 years ago

    I’m still unclear, will the padres get the 9th pick in the 1st or 2nd round?

    • sports33 4 years ago

      The second.

    • The Padres get a 1st round pick in front of the Marlins and a sandwich pick between the 1st and 2nd round. Polishuk got it wrong. New CBA is confusing.

  57. Ferrariman 4 years ago

    This makes me glad that my team is paying Jason Motte 3mil or so to be just as good with several other power arms to replace him when he gets too expensive.  Paying high prices for relievers=fail.

  58. padreshobo 4 years ago

    He has been great for us, and he is a great guy. I am sad to see him go, but good for him to get paid. 

    I am glad that the Padres didn’t pay that though. Way too much for a team with so many needs. 

  59. Well, there are other closers that are making that or more. Rivera, Valverde, Papelbon, Marmol(in 2013). Kimbrel, Baily, Storen, Axford, Chris Perez, and Madson could all get near or more than 9 mil eventually.

    • bravesdude 4 years ago

      They also could have better careers than Bell also . Although he was pretty good at Petco for years .

  60. as an angels fan, I am glad DiPoto did not pay the 9 mill annually for Bell, considering Arte’s $20 million budget for the offseason. better plan for the angels to sign a pitcher with most of that money and a serviceable closer with the rest.

  61. cookmeister 4 years ago

    I know they will get the picks for him, but Padres are regretting not trading him at the deadline.

    • nats2012 4 years ago

      I agree, you have to make those trades and get impact back.

      • Except the Padres, apparently, were offered what amounted to garbage for Jed Hoyer. 2 picks > prospects offered for Bell at trade deadline. 

        • I’m iffy on the whole draft pick thing anyway. The Padres might be the worst drafting team of all time. Remember when they had six first round picks in 1999? Do the names Vince Faison, Gerik Baxter, Omar Ortiz, Casey Burns, Mike Bynum, and Nick Trzesniak ring a bell? (Uh…no pun intended.)

          • johnnycomelately9 4 years ago

            Haha the pads had the best draft in 2011 and the best draft in 2009.  2008 was pretty good and 2010 was above average.  There is a reason why they won two minor league championships in 2011 and why they have deepest pool of legitimate prospects in baseball.  It’s because they are very good at amateur scouting, one of the best.

            They’ve been very good at amateur signings and willing to spend money since Sandy Alderson came in during 2005

          • Beersy 4 years ago

            It will be intereting to see if there success in the draft will continue with Hoyer and McLeod leaving.  Those two really knew what they were doing when it came to the draft.  I know Moorad has shown a pension for pouring money into the draft, but with the new CBA I’m not sure if that will be as big a bonus as it was in the past.  Byrnes had made some pretty good picks while in Arizona and I now hope he and Madsion can continue the success the Padres have had as of late.  I really hope the Marlins don’t sign any other type A’s, the Padres really need to get the 9th pick of the second, not the third round. 

          • johnnycomelately9 4 years ago

            Randy Smith, who was the padres GM before Towers was the Head of international scouting.  Under Sandy they built an 8 million dollar Dominican facility where all their international signings can develop.  The great thing about the facility is it can host and house up to 60 players, and 16 year old’s can spend time their learning English and basic skills for adapting to America.  Many of the padres top prospects (like their #1 Liriano) spent time there.  Also international prospects clocks don’t start until they come over to the states.  This gives the team longer control, and overall is a huge asset and avenue that can be pursued outside the draft.  In 2008 when the facility opened, the padres signed 4 of the top 10 ranked international prospects for that year.  At the same time, they reloaded the system with 1 and 2 tool prospects with solid floors under Fuson.  But in 2009 they began going after higher reward players like Tate and Sampson.  Hoyer and McLeod then came in and had everything in place from a front office perspective, a lot of people rave about San Diego’s front office staff, and thus Jed and co had a great transition.  For the first year Depodesta was still around (until he opted to join Sandy in New York) and he carried out the same role.  While he was still with the pads (under Jed) he blogged about how the vision really hadn’t changed, and on his site he rolled out their plan for having talent at each level, and waves and waves of prospects.   In the 2011 draft they got the #1 ranked CC player; 2 1st round pitchers (Ross looks dominant);   Hedges who already rates as an elite defensive catcher by major league standards; and Jace Peterson who had a fantastic debut at shortstop.  They didn’t have the impact top 10 picks equal to Arizona or Washington, but I really like what they did in the 2011 draft.  With that said, it sucks losing McLeod but moving forward, Randy Smith is heading the scouting department(next year or down the line he’ll probably get a GM job again); and Brynes has a better track record than what people give him credit for in the draft.  So far he’s impressed me.  I like Jed but I think Josh is better for the pads.  

          • padresfuture 4 years ago

            And now, apparantly Drew Cumberland may be coming back.

          • Rabbitov 4 years ago

            Deepest outside of the Braves and Rays.

  62. NL east closers are elite so far….Bell, Papelbon, Kimbrel, Storen (or who ever they are gonna get) and same with the mets

    • bravesdude 4 years ago

      Parnell throws extremely hard . Maybe he becomes a good closer this year . He looked pretty good last year .

  63. $4555515 4 years ago

    this makes the papelbon deal look even more stupid

    • nm344 4 years ago

      Actually makes it look better.  He’s a way better closer at 3.5 mil/more year.

    • You do realize by the time Papelbon’s contract expires he’ll be the same age Bell is right now?  I’m not of a fan of Papelbon’s deal but this is really not much better.

  64. Tko11 4 years ago

    So thats where he was putting up his Christmas lights…

  65. FriedCalamari 4 years ago

    The contract seems pretty fair. Less than I thougt

    • I predicted 3-years, 26M. I honestly expected him to take a while to sign.

      • FriedCalamari 4 years ago

        Pretty snazzy guess. Won’t kill the bank. Nice way to show the fans they “they mean business”

  66. Where Heath Bell REALLY ranks amongst relievers

    From an upcoming article on Websoulsurfer

    Heath Bell: Park Independent
    Stats & HR/9- 2007-2011 & 2009-2011

    Receivers with minimum of 60 games per season

    ERA +
    2007-2011 – 150
    Rank among relievers over period – 7th 
    2009-2011 – 157
    Rank among closers – 3rd

    xFIP
    2007-2011 – 3.20
    Rank among relievers over period – 7th
    2009-2011
    – 3.19 – Rank among closers – 2nd

    HR/9 Overall
    2007-2011 – .40
    Rank among relievers – 6th
    2009-2011 – .36
    Rank amongst closers – 2nd

    HR/9 Away
    2007-2011 – .306
    Rank among relievers – #1
    2009-2011 – .306 
    Rank among closers – #1

  67. Triple Hawpes Brewed 4 years ago

    Kimbrel is better and cheaper than (insert your team’s closer here).

    • bravesdude 4 years ago

      Every other teams closer .

    • slider32 4 years ago

      It’s not what you have that counts, it’s what you don’t have!

    • Jack Merlino 4 years ago

      Didn’t he choke it up to the Phils when it mattered most?

    • Pujols is better that Kimbrel. And looks like Pujols may be going to Miami too. YIKES!

  68. slider32 4 years ago

    Know the market is set for closers Papalbon gets 50, Bell gets 3/27. Finally the Marlins land someone.

  69. MB923 4 years ago

    lol good one

  70. MB923 4 years ago

    I think I herad the Phils still might get Madson back

  71. MB923 4 years ago

    And I think it would be best for them to leave before the 4th quarter

  72. MB923 4 years ago

    I know the 2 teams are in 2 different situations with money, but 1/5th of the Marlins payroll at the moment is Heath Bell. 

  73. MB923 4 years ago

    You’re going based on 2 games?

    Rivera lost the 2001 WS, I guess he sucks too.

  74. MB923 4 years ago

    Sorry all it appears Disqus reply isn’t working for me.

  75. Nice pickup to bolster up the bullpen..

  76. NYPOTENCE 4 years ago

    I guess the Miami movement is legit. I think they’ll add Reyes before all is said and done 

    • slider32 4 years ago

      The Marlins are for real, this is only the first step. Players are going to want to play in that new stadium.

  77. johnnycomelately9 4 years ago

    I think Reyes is the wrong way to go.  Bonofacio had a break out season, and Hanley sounds like he doesn’t want to play 3B.  Leave Bono in the lead off role and at 3B.  The Fish will be much better served with Prince or King Albert.  They should trade Morrison and/or Sanchez for the best SP they can get.

  78. Lars Chunks 4 years ago

    This makes Papelbon’s deal look like a steal.  

    • renegadeisback 4 years ago

      I agree, Papelbon is vastly superior to Bell.

  79. TheReturnOfMrBlanks 4 years ago

    So the Padres did’nt trade him because of? Ballocks 

  80. Wrek305 4 years ago

    Heath Bell isn’t that good,  at least he wasn’t good for the Mets. Now he has to wear the ugliest uniforms of all time and those Padres Unis were right up there with the Brown and yellow.

  81. slider32 4 years ago

    Madson’s price just went up!

  82. mattinglyfan 4 years ago

    Haha, someone took the Marlins’ bait! Get it…because Marlins are fish…ah screw it. 

  83. dshires4 4 years ago

    Does pitcher or hitter friendly park really matter for a guy who strikes out batters at a high rate, and only pitches an inning at a time?

  84. miamiroc 4 years ago

    …a whale that saves games.

  85. vonhayesdays 4 years ago

    is he a big gambler ?

  86. Chipper_is_GOD 4 years ago

    Imagine how the Mets would feel though. 5th place would be a lock for them.

  87. bravesdude 4 years ago

    The Nats are gonna be good even without those guys . I think that they could give the Braves and the Phillies a run the next few years .

    As far as them signing either one of those guys , I don’t think they will get both . They probably are more likely to get Buerhle than Fileder . And I see Buerhle maybe going to a team like the Tigers , Rangers or Angels (if they don’t sign Wilson) . Fielders a toss up . But he may just sign back with the Brewers .

  88. sports33 4 years ago

    Saves! The pinnacle of importance!

  89. tacko 4 years ago

    Number of saves is positively correlated to the number of wins a team has. 

    It’s science.

  90. Tom McCoy 4 years ago

    How many saves did the World Series Champions have last year? Oh yeah, that’s right. They didn’t have a legitimate closer till the All Star Break. 

  91. sports33 4 years ago

    I got the email notification, and wasn’t sure if this was gonna be one of those “wins are the greatest thing ever” arguments.

    Thanks for proving me wrong.

  92. nats2012 4 years ago

    Chipper I really like the Braves so Im not gonna slam them but I dont think your giving the Nationals enough credit. We have a good team.

  93. The Mets will finish 6th.

  94. bravesdude 4 years ago

    Mets or Marlins ? That would be my guess . But either one would probably be the best last place team in the NL . My guess on next year , barring any major injuries:

    1)Braves or Phillies (all according to who can stay the healthiest and if the ENTIRE Braves offense can play to their potential)
    2)same as above
    3)Nationals
    4)Marlins (good offensive young talents , just not enough pitching to support J. Johnson and H. Bell)
    5)Mets

  95. Chipper_is_GOD 4 years ago

    Oh no, I like the Nats.

    Think you guys have a very good looking team. I wouldn’t mind at all if you won it all.

  96. sports33 4 years ago

    People need to learn what jokes are.

  97. nats2012 4 years ago

    Thanks, because just like you guys we have alot of young talent on the field and coming in our system. We both have very similar teams. We just need a year when Strasburg and Jordan Zimmermann pitch every 5th day.

  98. mistermonkey 4 years ago

    Fat chance.

  99. nats2012 4 years ago

    I think your right about Fielder because our future will be with Morse at first, Rendon at second, Espinosa at short, Zimmerman at 3rd, Ramos at catcher, Harper and Werth in the corner outfield spots and we still need a centerfielder.

  100. NYBravosFan10 4 years ago

    is the word “cynical” the official word of the Blue Jays organization?

  101. He has a home in Florida.

  102. BluMule 4 years ago

    Clearly he doesn’t know what some of us wanted.

  103. lol. you seriously comparing Hanley’s resume’ to  Freeman’s? You joking right?

  104. You do realize that this argument against the Marlins is totally off. You do realize that their main priority this offseason is to solidify their SP staff, right?

    I’m curious to see your prediction when the Fish Sign 2 SP’s and how and “if” you modify it. You seem to have a Lot of hate towards the fish.

    Sorry, I said it. 

  105. wadecounty561 4 years ago

    no way the gNats are finishing above us if we get aramis or jose, and CJ. absolutely no way.

  106. padresfuture 4 years ago

    “But he told us he was going to accept arbitration.” Bahhhhh!! What happened is exactly what many of us said, a chance at a 3 year contract would persuade him to not accept arbitration. His home in FL may have helped him decide what team to sign with, but was not the reason he did not accept arbitration. Common sense is the reason a mid 30’s relief pitcher took a 3-4 year deal over 1 year of arb.

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