Cubs, Diamondbacks Interested In Stewart

SUNDAY: The Orioles, Mariners, Pirates, and Angels have also inquired on Ian Stewart, a source tells Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports (via Twitter).

6:13pm: In addition to the Cubs, the Diamondbacks are also interested in Stewart, tweets Jon Heyman of SI.  The 26-year-old is very likely to go somewhere, according to Heyman.

FRIDAY: The Rockies think highly enough of Stewart that they would not consider trading him for DeWitt, according to Renck.

11:39am: The Rockies have already moved Ty Wigginton and Chris Iannetta this offseason, and they're reportedly open to dealing Ian Stewart and Huston Street as well. Troy Renck of The Denver Post reports that Colorado has asked the Cubs for Blake DeWitt in exchange for Stewart, but talks between the two clubs have since cooled.

DeWitt, 26, is a left-handed bat with experience at second, third, and in left field. He's hit .258/.309/.396 with nine homers in 447 plate appearances for the Cubbies after coming over in the deal that sent Ted Lilly to the Dodgers at the 2010 trade deadline. Renck says the Rockies would prefer to get a pitcher in any deal involving Stewart as well.


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109 Comments on "Cubs, Diamondbacks Interested In Stewart"


Guest
3 years 7 months ago

seems like everyone would lose there

Guest
3 years 7 months ago

Really, I like Blake DeWitt.
Street & Marmol in the same bullpen! Ha!
I would pay to see that. I really would.

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imachainsaw
3 years 7 months ago

i’d rather the cubs have stewart at third than dewitt, but that’s not really saying much. it’s like choosing between a pile of feces and pile of puke.

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EarlyMorningBoxscore
3 years 7 months ago

I’d like to see if the Sox can get in on Huston Street to close. 

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Cosmo3
3 years 7 months ago

Practically a lateral move, but if I’m the Cubs I probably do it. Stewart’s got a lower  BA, but higher slugging and OPS. With a full season, he could hit 20 dingers. Passable place filler for a rebuilding team that currently has no one at 3B.

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cubs223425
3 years 7 months ago

There’s also the matter of Stewart could improve. DeWitt is what he is, and it’s pretty bad. With Baker, Barney, and LeMahieu around, DeWitt isn’t worth crap to the Cubs unless he starts juicing or something.

Stewart could at least get better and surpass DeWitt in value, and he’ll be a bit cheaper.

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azdsnd
3 years 7 months ago

1) People seem to forget that even before Stewart completely collapsed in 2011, he was never good in any year before that.  He’s always been a fringe-regular, and this whole “upside” thing is pretty confusing.

2) I’d rather have DeWitt than Barney or LeMahieu in general, although I guess it’s true that Castro’s less-than-stellar range at SS and slowing lateral quickness make Barney’s range at second a bit more valuable to Chicago.  For Colorado, since they have Tulo, DeWitt >>> Barney.

3) Stewart is more expensive.  He made over $2MM last year in his first of four arbitration years as a Super Two, whereas DeWitt still made minimum salary last year, and is hitting arbitration for the first time.  They both have the same number of team years of control left, but DeWitt will almost certainly be cheaper in each of them.

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Thomas W
3 years 7 months ago

.246/.334/.454 was his line from 08-10 is better the .257/.317/.387 line NL 3B posted last year especially since he is above average defensively

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azdsnd
3 years 7 months ago

You do happen to be aware of the fact that Ian Stewart plays at Coors Field, right?  League-average wRC+ last year for third basemen was 92, which Stewart is much closer to because of his park adjustment.  That league-average wRC+ mark, when adjusted per 600 plate appearances, is worth about 1.6 fWAR.  That’s not very good.

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Thomas W
3 years 7 months ago

You do realise that Stewart had an OPS of .802 on the road in 2010(his last heathy year) to go with a .757 home OPS and of course he is not very good, if he was they wouldn’t be dumping him.

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SwingtimeInTheRockies
3 years 7 months ago

 Yeah, come on, Tommy, park adjustments only ever apply to Rockies hitters!  Yikes, Coors!  Aaarrrrgggg!

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Tommy Meyers
3 years 7 months ago

You must not watch the Cubs often.  Castro has great range at short, he just can’t throw, and how is his lateral quickness slowing, he is 21 years old??  Barney has very little range at 2nd and Lemahieu is a very good defender

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imachainsaw
3 years 7 months ago

while you’re very much right about Castro’s great range but inaccurate arm, you’re assessment of Barney is faulty. Barney has nice range at 2nd, and is a pretty solid defender. It’s his bat that’s nothing to write home about.

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Tommy Meyers
3 years 7 months ago

Trust me, I like Barney.  The guy is a winner and has heart, but if a guy can’t hit, he better be a hell of a defender, and he is not.  Lemahieu is the much better player of the two and has much more of an upside given that Barney is 26

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imachainsaw
3 years 7 months ago

I can definetly agree on LeMahieu’s upside. I think as he fills out a bit more, he can combine his high AVG bat with some power and be a really good 2B. But if he’s not ready yet, I’d say it’s in our best interest to just keep 2B as is with Barney.

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cubs223425
3 years 7 months ago

I agree they should let LeMahieu get a shot, but that might be over at 3B, because DeWitt’s not worth a damn with the bat OR glove; Barney can at least field well (+5.1 UZR at 2B).

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azdsnd
3 years 7 months ago

His great range at short must be why he had a RngR of -0.7 last year at the position.  As players go from being wiry, thin athletes in their teenage years and early 20’s to being muscle-bound, thicker athletes in their “physical peak” years, they lost mobility because they carry so much more weight.  Their strength increases significantly, which is why hitting ability typically improves and which is why this is considered their “prime,” as hitting ability is the most significant part of player value, far more significant than a step or two’s worth of range.  But make no mistake, Castro’s range is far from “great” for shortstops.  He may look fine to someone watching him more than any other SS in the league, but most shortstops around the league have stellar mobility, and someone has to be substandard.  The fact that Castro is that someone is no crime, and he is an elite baseball player even in spite of it, but it is true.

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Richdanna
3 years 7 months ago

“Castro’s less-than-stellar range and slowing lateral quickness”? 

He’s already losing a step at age 21???

LMAO!  This post is priceless.  You couldn’t be more off base…

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azdsnd
3 years 7 months ago

He should be expected to lose a step going into his mid-20s.  That is pretty on-base, actually.  It’s hard to find a professional analyst who doesn’t express a concern that Castro’s lower half will fill out and move him off the position.

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Richdanna
3 years 7 months ago

Lmfao!! Not at 21 years old, they’re not expressing concern! Who the hell do you think Castro is, the Hulk? Is he suddenly going to explode overnight? Please stop trying to prove this point. You sound so ridiculous. Especially when the “experts” say that the biggest dip in speed is at age 32, not the mid-20’s which constitute their peak years.

When I get back to my home computer, I’ll post you about 20 links backing that up.

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azdsnd
3 years 7 months ago

Speed =/= Quickness.

Also, please do not.  Disagreeing or debating is one thing, but being a prick and trolling with links is another.  Further, consider Hanley Ramirez, and look at his year-to-year UZR and TZ totals.  His defensive peak was was in ’08 at 24, he was solid in ’09 at 25, and he’s been horrible there the last two years, necessitating the Reyes signing.

It’d be great if you find some simple, quick-to-understand data of players with similar builds to Castro (like Ramirez), but trolling with links will prove nothing.

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cubs223425
3 years 7 months ago

1. He’s never been all that good, no, but he at least has some power. The Cubs have enough slap-hitting infielders with little or no power, like Barney, DeWitt, and Castro (as good as he is, he lacks power). Stewart might be a lesser fielder, but if he can go back to popping 20-25 HR, it’s worth giving u pa mediocre player in DeWitt. Stewart COULD become a useful player, but DeWitt is pretty much past that. He’s a bench guy and nothing more, and that will never change.

2. I would DEFINITELY rather have Barney over DeWitt. DeWitt’s a little better with the bat, but Barney was rated as a better baserunner by FanGraphs (+5.0 to DeWitt’s -0.1), and he’s a MUCH better fielder (+5.1 UZR at 2B to DeWitt’s -0.7 UZR at 2B and career mark at second of -9.0). DeWitt actually managed to be below-average in the field at 2B, 3B, AND LF last season. MAYBE if DeWitt could become a full-time 3B he could also become a respectable fielder (had a +7.4 UZR as a full-time 3B in 2008, -3.6 2009-2011). However, to get that, you have to take a TERRIBLE hitter from that position, and the Cubs can’t afford to do that unless they sign Pujols/Fielder, IMO.

3. That’s true. He costs more, but it’s not like he costs a lot. Also, if DeWitt outplays Stewart by a decent margin, he could end up costing more (not that the Cubs would want that, haha).  I’d rather spend an extra million dollars or so and take the chance on Stewart.

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azdsnd
3 years 7 months ago

1. This idea that Stewart can get back to that plateau when he did it once in his career – at Coors – after leaving for a less-hitter-friendly park is a bit confusing to me.  Even when he did hit those HRs, he wasn’t particularly valuable as an everyday player.  Isn’t that a red flag to people proclaiming that he has so much potential because of the homers he’s capable of hitting?  Also, the “DeWitt is a bench guy and nothing more” argument is strange when his value keeps getting overshadowed by being jerked from position to position where he doesn’t belong.  I’m not saying there’s an obvious call of who’s better, but there’s an argument to be made that DeWitt at second everyday is more valuable than Stewart at third everyday, and the attitude that there are obvious differences that cannot be disputed is pretty flawed.

2. Barney is so much riskier going forward than is being given credit for.  You’re relying on a guy with one year of data to continue being the seventh-best baserunner in the league, to continue posting a 23% line drive rate without any sort of power, and to continue to BABIP .310.  Each of those things is pretty unlikely.  Without those things, Barney turns from capable everyday guy to utterly useless.  I’ll take the hitter that DeWitt has shown himself to be over that immensely risky player in Barney.

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cubs223425
3 years 7 months ago

You should join the forums. It’s a lot easier to have these long discussion on there (for some reason, this site struggles if I type something lengthy).

It’s under the TOOLS section of the MLBTR site if you’re interested.

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RanceMulliniks
3 years 7 months ago

A later Denver Post article says that the Rockies don’t think that DeWitt is enough return for Stewart, but may instead be targeting Tyler Colvin or a minor league pitching prospect. 

Guest
3 years 7 months ago

That would make more sense. Stewart has to be worth more than that. He’s only two seasons removed from hitting 25 HR. And his splits tell you his power is legit.

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cubs223425
3 years 7 months ago

DeWitt and Colvin is too much, but Colvin alone? I’m not sure. The Cubs have Barney, Baker, DeWitt, and LeMahieu at the 2B/3B slot. Adding Stewart without moving one of them leads to a logjam of 5 players, 4 if you send LeMahieu down.

I’d say it would have to be DeWitt and a pretty low-end pitching prospect.

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catch21_2
3 years 7 months ago

Keep in mind Tyler Colvin was literally the worst player in the league last year…

And that move does not help the Rockies in the least.

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cubs223425
3 years 7 months ago

That’s not necessarily a true or fair assessment, because he didn’t play a full season. Stewart was pretty much on-pace to be as bad as Colvin (I compared them, and I want to say Colvin was going to be -.01 worse than Stewart, but I forget). Stewart was also making $2,287,500 last season. DeWitt and Colvin COMBINED made $900,000, about 2.5 times less than Stewart.

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TartanElk
3 years 7 months ago

Why would the Rockies want Colvin when they have Blackmon, Garner, et. al.?

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cubs223425
3 years 7 months ago

Good question. Someone else suggested it, and I was just commenting on the suggestion.

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cubs223425
3 years 7 months ago

Good question. Someone else suggested it, and I was just commenting on the suggestion.

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jwsox
3 years 7 months ago

how is colvin(fell completely out of favor with the cubs) who is not even going to be their 4th OF next season baring some sort of soriano “we ate 75% of his contract”  trade. And DeWitt who is more than likely not even the back up middle infielder due to baker being there. To much for Stewart. Colvin has had 1 good season and been horrible sense. He may be a change of scenery guy or he simply may be bad. But DeWitt and Colvin for stweart might be a good deal for both teams. Colvin might find his power again playing in coors and Stewart wont have to worry about being sent back down AGIN because the cubs really have nothing in terms of 3rd base prospects

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cubs223425
3 years 7 months ago

I’m going to go wit the fact that Stewart was worse than BOTH last season. Stewart had an OPS+ of TWENTY-ONE. If you don’t know OPS+, he had an OPS under .500. That’s just unacceptable.

I don’t even know why you’re defensind Stewart so vehemently. You say Colvin has been horrible SINCE his one good season, but that was ONE SEASON ago. He posted an OPS of .816 last year, better than Stewart’s ever done.

Stewart as he stands right now is pretty much just a redundant piece for the Cubs–a 2B/3B with hitting issues. They can cover 2B and 3B with enough players who aren’t great hitters, like Barney, LeMahieu, and Baker.

Stewart was just a pitiful player last season, even worse than Adam Dunn. Even the season he his 25 HR, he couldn’t hit over .230. He basically does like Carlos Pena, except he can’t hit 30-40 HR like Pena…at COORS.

I don’t care to give up a player of similar value (Colvin) for him, then add DeWitt, just because the Cubs have enough anemic hitters to cover second and third without him.

Also, it’s funny how you rag on Colvin for not being able to be a 4th OF when he outhit Stewart by a decent margin while being so bad he was sent to the minors, as Stwart also was.

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azdsnd
3 years 7 months ago

I find that extremely confusing, considering the fact that Tyler Colvin is atrocious.  I guess there are some worthwhile arms the Rox could target, though.

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bigpat
3 years 7 months ago

Not a bad deal for Chicago. Get a cheap, live body to play third to get you through this season. I’m not a believer in him breaking out, but there’s always some chance.