Dodgers, Astros Discussing Trade

10:11pm: The Dodgers asked about Lowrie, but he's not in the current talks, tweets Buster Olney of ESPN.com.  A source says that there's a 50-50 shot that Carlos Lee accepts a deal to Los Angeles for pitching prospects.

9:57pm: Dodgers‬' talks with ‪Astros‬ involve Carlos Lee, not Jed Lowrie, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (via Twitter).  Lee would need to a approve deal and has the right to block a deal to the Dodgers.

9:02pm: The Dodgers are talking to the Astros about a trade that would send Jed Lowrie to the Dodgers with minor-leaguers Zach Lee and Garrett Gould headed to Houston, according to Buster Olney of ESPN.com (via Twitter).  One source place the odds of the deal taking place at about 50-50 right now, Olney tweets.

Sources also say that others could be involved in the talks, according to Olney (via Twitter).  Lowrie would provide the Dodgers with options at shortstop and third base to go along with a power bat.  The 28-year-old has a .262/.350/.492 slash line with 14 homers in 68 games this year.

Lee, 20, was the Dodgers' first-round pick in 2010 and signed with the club over attending LSU on a football scholarship.  The right-hander was promoted to Double-A Chattanooga earlier this week after turning in a 4.55 ERA with 8.5 K/9 and 1.6 BB/9 in 12 California League starts in 2012.

Gould, also a right-hander, was the club's second-round pick in '09 out of Wichita, Kansas.  The soon-to-be 21-year-old has made 12 starts and three relief appearances in the California League this year, posting a 5.12 ERA with 9.0 K/9 and 3.0 BB/9.


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141 Comments on "Dodgers, Astros Discussing Trade"


unvme7
3 years 2 months ago

Astros should just keep him…

Joey E
3 years 2 months ago

as a dodger fan, SMH

ateam043
3 years 2 months ago

Wait…what? Someone lock Colleti before he does something stupid…again.

3 years 2 months ago

Wait. Isn’t Zach Lee like… good?

cubs223425
3 years 2 months ago

Ehh, he’s not doing that well right now, 4.03 FIP at high-A.

3 years 2 months ago

Not that minor league numbers mean much, but a 4 FIP in that league is just fine.

cubs223425
3 years 2 months ago

Fair enough, but I’d still like to see him do more against low-end minors competition before I truly call him good. His first AA start was a good…start.

bigpat
3 years 2 months ago

 Lowrie is also good, and cheap. Not like they are just picking up a vet who’s an impending FA. They will have to give up something quality because the Astros can just keep him affordably for the next few years.

melonis_rex
3 years 2 months ago

If Luhnow can pull this off, he’s automatically one of my favorite GMs in the game.

go_jays_go
3 years 2 months ago

I’m not too familiar with the Dodger’s farm system. Are Lee and Gould considered to be B-type prospects or are the stats just lower than what their potential indicates?

sdsuphilip
3 years 2 months ago

Yeah Zach Lee is consider a B/B+ type prospect while Gould is a solid B, Gould may have the highest upside of anyone in the system but is  risky with inconsistent mechanics.

3 years 2 months ago

If you know anything about the California leagues, you would know that anything in the 4’s is good.  They are big time hitters parks.

thegrayrace
3 years 2 months ago

Zach Lee is probably considered the Dodger’s top prospect. He’s a recent first round draft pick so he’s not as far along as guys like De La Rosa, Eovaldi, Webster, etc… but he has plenty of upside. Probably not an ace, but a solid #2/#3 starter.
Gould would be in the lower top 10 of Dodger prospects, but still young with plenty of upside.
As a Dodger fan I’m not happy about giving either of them up. But we have pretty solid pitching depth in the minors. Bats are needed.

Andrew Lujan
3 years 2 months ago

Lee is considered an A-, gold at best a C right now. its a fair trade

TheLoLgen
3 years 2 months ago

As a Cardinal fan who has seen the draft picks that Luhnow was a key part in selecting in St. Louis, and the fantastic draft that the Astros just had, I’m glad that the Astros are moving to the AL West.  If a few of those guys pan out, they’re going to be a good team again, and soon

3 years 2 months ago

Hard to part with a young shortstop who hits, but given how hard a time Lowrie has had staying healthy, and how far the Astros are from winning, it makes some sense to flip him. Regardless, they get a sweet return for Melancon.

3 years 2 months ago

 Since when is Jed Lowrie a premier shortstop?

3 years 2 months ago

Since Bryan LaHair is a premiere 1B

Andrew Lujan
3 years 2 months ago

Since he is in the top five in the league in OPS, WAR, Home Runs, and RBI’s?

3 years 2 months ago

Half of one season means a lot.

notsureifsrs
3 years 2 months ago

“since like 2 months ago”

Casor_Greener
3 years 2 months ago

Funny, when he was a member of the Red Sox, everyone said Lowrie had great potential.  Now he’s an Astro, he is over rated.  funny how these boards work.

EvilAbed
3 years 2 months ago

no one said he sucks. but he was traded for mark freaking melancon.

3 years 2 months ago

 Which really says something about him because, like, the Red Sox ONLY make really intelligent moves and signings, right…?

vtadave
3 years 2 months ago

…and Jeff Bagwell was traded for Larry freaking Anderson

withpower
3 years 2 months ago

He’s 8th in the NL in HR this year and in his earlier career he was league average with the bat.

Outside of Tulowitzki, Cabrera, and Hardy.. are there really any legit 20 HR bats at SS?

dylanp5030
3 years 2 months ago

Jimmy Rollins, Ian Desmond, and if you’re going to include Lowrie, you have to include Aviles.

withpower
3 years 2 months ago

 Well Jimmy, sure, I forgot about him but he’s turned it on a bit now that I’m looking up his stats.  Either way, he’s making like 10MM per year, so it’s not quite the same thing.

Desmond I like, I didn’t realize he had that many on the year so far.  Him and Hardy are having pretty similar seasons.  I like Aviles, too, but there’s a gap there in BB%, but Aviles does in fact end up in the same place Lowrie was prior to this year: a .732 OPS, so yeah, point to you.

cubs223425
3 years 2 months ago

So 20 HR is the ultimate tool for gauging a SS’s value?

tmengd
3 years 2 months ago

 he is on a pace to hit 35 Hr at the moment not 20. Only a couple of SS in the Majors could do that. If he stay healthy, this would give the Dodgers a huge offensive present between Either and Kemp

cubs223425
3 years 2 months ago

I’m not saying he can’t just that the guy I replied to pointed out 20HR power as a legitimate measuring stick for value, while ignoring the rest of his skills.

3 years 2 months ago

 The rest of his skills like the well-above-average plate discipline and plus defense at 2B, 3B AND SS? Those the other skills you mean?

withpower
3 years 2 months ago

Huh?  The guy can legitimately play the position, BB rate approaching 12% and has power.

He is a legitimate middle of the order hitter who is a clear upgrade for the Dodgers at potentially three infield positions.

cubs223425
3 years 2 months ago

You’re the one who only decided to point out his power, not me. Also, he’s sitting slgihtly below-average on defense right now, at a 0.1 UZR.

withpower
3 years 2 months ago

 There’s this guy in New York who put up worse defensive numbers than that.  It worked out okay.

cubs223425
3 years 2 months ago

You’re making the silly assumption that I think Derek Jeter shouldn’t have been kicked off of SS when Rodriguez arrived, if not before. That he’s won 5 Gold Gloves is one of the most pathetic things in sports.

withpower
3 years 2 months ago

As a Yankee fan who’s watched a lot of games over the period A-Rod has been here, I doubt he would have been better than Jeter outside of his first couple of years here.

cubs223425
3 years 2 months ago

Umm…he’s never been a SS there. He was a good defensive SS with Texas. Maybe letting stick there would have been better for him. If anything, he certainly couldn’t have been worse.

withpower
3 years 2 months ago

 Right.. I know.  Outside of a few games, he hasn’t played much SS for us.  I’m just informing you that his defense over at 3B has been kind of up and down during his tenure with us, and he had gotten a little bigger, so I’m not sure how well he would have handled SS in the long run.

Also, not for nothing, but Jeter did post several of his strongest defensive seasons at SS during this period so it’s not like it was the end of the world.

3 years 2 months ago

 +1.5 UZR at SS in 2012, what are you looking at…?

3 years 2 months ago

He’s probably not looking at half of a season worth of defensive metric data, for starters.

3 years 2 months ago

Good trade for the Astros if it goes down. They’d replenish a very thin farm from the top in the past year if you add Lee to McMullers, Correa, Singleton and Cosart.

sdsuphilip
3 years 2 months ago

Springer, Santana, and Ruiz are significant prospects as well. Gould is a good high upside arm that would make their top 20 easy too.

Mike C.
3 years 2 months ago

Astros would have done the unthinkable in the span of a few months…

Bought Lowrie dirt cheap and sold him way too high… 

These are not your father’s Astros… 

3 years 2 months ago

My father’s Astros were the Colt .45’s. My father’s really old.

Roy Baker
3 years 2 months ago

This would be a steal for us. Do it, Dodgers so us Astro fans can build Luhnow’s statue…

dbreer23
3 years 2 months ago

 don’t you mean shrine?

3 years 2 months ago

More like the damn Kremlin shipped over from Russia if he actually gets a good prospect for Carlos Lee.

Guest1985
3 years 2 months ago

Jesus, just a couple months ago all the Red Sox got for Lowrie was Melancon. I know he’s having a solid year, but that’s a little much Ned

3 years 2 months ago

Dodger fans, how does Ned Colleti still have a job?

thegrayrace
3 years 2 months ago

Many of us wonder that everyday…

ThinkBlue10
3 years 2 months ago

This better not be true, dammit! Ned get out of here already!

3 years 2 months ago

Carlos Santana for Casey Blake. Smh

theophilus166
3 years 2 months ago

Zach Lee was our #1 pick.  Why would we trade him for a shortstop who’s career high in home runs is the 14 he’s had this year, and is a career .255 hitter?  If he trades Lee for Lowrie, he needs to go. 

3 years 2 months ago

Yes, THIS would be the last straw.  He doesn’t need to go now, because throwing together the most expensive replacement-level team in history wasn’t bad enough.  But I’ll be gosh darned if this trade goes through and Coletti doesn’t get sacked.

3 years 2 months ago

PLease tell me that at least Carlos Lee is coming to the dodgers too…otherwise this is just classic Ned.

IdontknowwhyIpostonforums
3 years 2 months ago

May have something to do with the team being in first place for almost the entire season.

3 years 2 months ago

Swap Zach Lee for Uribe and ya got yerself a deal!

3 years 2 months ago

This better not be true…i’m about to flip my lid.

3 years 2 months ago

Carlos Lee and Lawrie for Lee and Gould ? others involved

richardb21
3 years 2 months ago

I wonder how Luhnow does it. If he pulls this off I would have loved to see what he could have gotten for Pence and Bourn last year. This could make it look like melancon for lee gould and weiland.