Blue Jays, Mariners Swap Thames For Delabar

The Mariners have acquired outfielder Eric Thames from the Blue Jays for reliever Steve Delabar, the team announced. Just yesterday we learned that Seattle was looking to acquire young, cost-controlled hitters.

Thames, 25, hit .243/.288/.365 in 160 big league plate appearances and .335/.412/.536 in 228 Triple-A plate appearances this season. The left-handed swinger has played primarily left field in the show. The 29-year-old Delabar is a hard-throwing right-handed reliever with a 3.92 ERA and 10.9 K/9 with 3.1 BB/9 in 43 2/3 career innings with Seattle. Both players are under team control through 2017.


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150 Comments on "Blue Jays, Mariners Swap Thames For Delabar"


Ben_Cherington
3 years 1 month ago

Delabar is a great pick up for the jays. I think he will be very good. Plus I know him personally!!! Go stevie!

Also, check out his movie on youtube, he is a real life “the Rookie”. Gym teacher from KY turned MLB pitcher!

rikersbeard
3 years 1 month ago

At least he’s not replacing Lunchbox (RIP).

JacksTigers
3 years 1 month ago

What happened to Lunchbox?

JacksTigers
3 years 1 month ago

Missed that trade.

WrigleyTerror37
3 years 1 month ago

So whos in Lf for the Jays now of days? R.Davis?

rikersbeard
3 years 1 month ago

that sucks, but probably yes.

Ben_Cherington
3 years 1 month ago

NO! Who is on first.

3 years 1 month ago

Probably Davis until Bautista gets back. Then depending on how committed they are to Gose being up here, Gose might take over LF and push Davis back to the bench.

Lunchbox45
3 years 1 month ago

what have you seen so far that would lead you to believe gose over davis?

3 years 1 month ago

Nothing. Nor did I say I saw anything. I said depending on how committed the Jays are to keeping Gose up here. They may look at the situation as Bautista coming back in the middle of August, so why send Gose down for a couple weeks only to bring him back for a September call-up? And if you’re keeping Gose up here, why would you nail a potential future star to the bench and let an upcoming free agent get all the playing time? None of that depends on performance, but everything to do with gaining experience and developing.

Matthew Mueller
3 years 1 month ago

Gose will be fine. He was hitting in the 100s his first month in Vegas as well

Lunchbox45
3 years 1 month ago

I’m not writing him off.. but this makes the team worse in 2012.

notsureifsrs
3 years 1 month ago

have to give him about 200 PAs, then demote him. give him another 200 next year and the year after, but never more than that. eventually you will end up with the reliever you always wanted

Lunchbox45
3 years 1 month ago

i was hoping you would come here and give me a worthwhile justification . but no one has as of yet

notsureifsrs
3 years 1 month ago

i tried on the happ deal, but these last two are a bit beyond me – especially since nothing’s happened since

Lunchbox45
3 years 1 month ago

I really don’t understand it… fine you wanted relievers, but are you seriously telling me you couldn’t acquire relievers with out giving up musgrove and snider? that scares me

now i know how mariner and cards fans have felt, the other side feels pretty craptastic. the team is worse after the deadline

3 years 1 month ago

Which matters because….?

Lunchbox45
3 years 1 month ago

because they should have tried to get better

3 years 1 month ago

You might consider googling the phrase “circular reasoning”.

Lunchbox45
3 years 1 month ago

right after you google blind apologist.

3 years 1 month ago

Wow. The difference? Your reasoning is undoubtedly circular, whereas my intentions are not as obvious to discern.

Karkat
3 years 1 month ago

“We don’t need no stinking outfielders!”

rikersbeard
3 years 1 month ago

Hey, we have a completely overmatched 21 year old!

Jamie Sayer
3 years 1 month ago

Makes me think maybe AA is going for an OF.

Karkat
3 years 1 month ago

I was just thinking that. Like… Pence? Are they hoping to get Choo?

rikersbeard
3 years 1 month ago

Some nice peripheral stats on Delabar

rikersbeard
3 years 1 month ago

at least with Ks and the K/BB

Haewon Kim
3 years 1 month ago

whip

3 years 1 month ago

Wow. Jays are really working hard to piece together a good bullpen…

Rick Yu
3 years 1 month ago

What is going on with the Jays?

Lunchbox45
3 years 1 month ago

if anyone’s counting out there, AA has now traded 3 prospects, Snider & Thames for 5 relievers..

you know, relievers, those things you can get every off season. yeah.

rikersbeard
3 years 1 month ago

and that is why most jays fans haven’t liked any of these deals. (though I like this one).

oseebhai
3 years 1 month ago

And yet our Bullpen every year sucks, maybe buying scraps off the FA market isn’t the way to go?

Dev0
3 years 1 month ago

what are you talking about, the Jays pen is generally really very good most years.

rikersbeard
3 years 1 month ago

wasn’t it close to the tops in the league a couple of years ago. Downs was always lights out.

Jaysfan724
3 years 1 month ago

The fact we got a living breathing human being for Thames already makes that trade a win.

rikersbeard
3 years 1 month ago

hahha, and a human being that can miss bats.

3 years 1 month ago

Really? I guess the 10.9k/9 inn fooled you into thinking that?

3 years 1 month ago

Really? I guess the 10.9k/9 inn tricked you into thinking that

Dev0
3 years 1 month ago

I think were going for Morneau and we’ll see Lind in LF again.

rikersbeard
3 years 1 month ago

oh please no! What happened to having improved flyball defense.

Daniel Han
3 years 1 month ago

What are outfielders?

Chuck Norris
3 years 1 month ago

Fielders that play in the outfield.

Lunchbox45
3 years 1 month ago

if justin upton isn’t starting in RF tomorrow for the jays I’m going on strike

Jose_Bautista
3 years 1 month ago

Hopefully theres a bigger picture but Jays have pretty much lost all LF options.
Rajai Davis is not a LF option.
I hope AA didn’t fall out of his bed with a cuncussion this morning.

mozelpuffski
3 years 1 month ago

ya there is this guy named Gose that needs more MLB at bats and will get them now.

MaineSox
3 years 1 month ago

Think there’s a chance they have just decided to commit to Gose in the OF? He doesn’t appear to be even remotely ready for it.

Lunchbox45
3 years 1 month ago

that’s an understatement and a half.

I like Gose as a prospect,could be a good CF one day, but he’s no where near ready. He’s literally hit 1 ball hard since coming up

for 2012, I’d rather have davis there than gose.

MaineSox
3 years 1 month ago

Yeah, completely agreed. Maybe something else is coming before the deadline, but if it doesn’t I truly don’t get what AA was thinking (even if something else does happen, I still don’t like the trades he’s made in the last week+).

Lunchbox45
3 years 1 month ago

agreed.

whole bunch of pointless trades, the team isn’t even better

MaineSox
3 years 1 month ago

Pointless at best – giving away excess value and making the team worse at worst.

Lunchbox45
3 years 1 month ago

high risk low reward.

mozelpuffski
3 years 1 month ago

we are better today then when we were last week. hands down. there are no ifs ands or buts about it. All for some low level prospects (which we have a ton of) and snider who although never got a full shot at an everyday role, but is absolete when considering Gose is almost ready, Marisnick is not far behind, and a few other o/f prospects. The pen is our strongest need and AA has sorted that out for the most part.

MaineSox
3 years 1 month ago

Three mediocre middle relievers did not make that team better.

malna
3 years 1 month ago

There is just no way you can say the current team is worse as hardly anything from the 2012 team was traded away. At least nothing that has contributed much to the power house offense. You might be able to argue excess value (in your eyes) was given up, but these trades were far from pointless. Even still, it seems pretty clear that the market for relievers this trading season was two minor league prospects or one major league bat.

mozelpuffski
3 years 1 month ago

are you for real with this comment? we get a young controllable pitcher struggling from morrow like issues (lincoln was drafted 4th that year morrow 5th) at worst steps in and is as good as anyone else in our pen right now, we get delabar who again is virtually as good as anyone in our pen, carpenter (the one who can hit 97-98 on his FB that is struggling with command) Happ is a throw in that at worst is a 5th starter, and Lyon who as well is an upgrade to most people in our pen. Jays issues this year and past couple has been bullpen and starters, well AA may have actually gave us something other then comp picks.

Lunchbox45
3 years 1 month ago

great so now our team wont blow as many leads in late innings… at the cost of not having as many leads to blow.

malna
3 years 1 month ago

The players we traded did not contribute much to the Jays being one of the top run producers in the league. They will have just as many leads to blow, while you are seriously not giving enough credit to the pitchers they brought in.

malna
3 years 1 month ago

How were these pointless? Of course the team is better; it didn’t sacrifice anything off of the regular 25 man roster.

jacks100
3 years 1 month ago

100% agree.

The phrase “he can’t hit” is always tossed around loosely. But Anthony Gose literally cannot hit.

I’m fine with Thames being sent out of town. Trading Snider just doesn’t add up though unless something else is in the works.

mozelpuffski
3 years 1 month ago

if you are referencing his hit in the 16-0 thumping from the A’s last wednesday that was a line drive single to centre left that he turned into a double. 99% of MLB players could not pull that off. His defence is supperior to lunchbox, has a stronger arm, faster wheels. I know it must suck (esp with the moniker you have going on) gose has more value to us then lunchbox.

mozelpuffski
3 years 1 month ago

Thats why some Jays fans are ecstatic – Gose will be staying up when Bautista is back. Personally Gose upside trumps snider and thames together. Yeah he is struggling at the dish, but how many 21 year olds don’t? Kind of reminds me of ellssbury (not sure if spelt right to lazy to look up).

Lunchbox45
3 years 1 month ago

guess you dont remember snider’s .757 ops as a 20 year old

mozelpuffski
3 years 1 month ago

i do sadly – i just think Gose will bring more to the table at the end of the day. My best lunchbox moment was in Minny when he smoked the shot upper deck down the hallway… that was a beauty. Worst was him and Cito disputes. Dont mess with senial Cito.

3 years 1 month ago

what about jose bautista

grant77
3 years 1 month ago

It’s strange to see Seattle get the worst defensive outfielder I have ever seen

Paul Andrew Mawdsley
3 years 1 month ago

He’ll be better then the platoon of peguero and robinson!

Lunchbox45
3 years 1 month ago

I’ve seen way worse

nepp
3 years 1 month ago

So you’ve seen Domonic Brown play then?

bigbird24
3 years 1 month ago

.. but.. but.. ESPN said he’s the best player ever last season!

bigbird24
3 years 1 month ago

Thames will be a solid DH/pinch hitter type for a while I think

rikersbeard
3 years 1 month ago

ya…pretty sure his bat doesn’t play at DH.

alxn
3 years 1 month ago

it does for the Mariners

ice_hawk10
3 years 1 month ago

realistically i think he eventually settles into a 4th OF, bench bat type with some pop. the bat is not good enough to DH fulltime, unless you can afford to lose value at the position compared to other teams.

suhiscrazierthanyou
3 years 1 month ago

isn’t Montero the DH of the future?

jacks100
3 years 1 month ago

Eric Thames was scraping the wall at Rogers Center with his HRs.

He maybe hits 10 HRs playing at Safeco for a full season… and 9 of them come on the road.

Jamie Sayer
3 years 1 month ago

He sure won’t be catching those over the wall HR’s like Ichiro could.

Alex Nelson
3 years 1 month ago

Where did you guys here Morneau with the Mariners? I like that rumor because hes a dead pull power hitter.. would work for safeco!

BluMule
3 years 1 month ago

GUYS, Hey guys, what if, Guys what if, he is getting these pieces for a bigger trade?

*please let that be the case*

Lunchbox45
3 years 1 month ago

either he’s bringing in an outfielder or he’s planning to sell off janssen, and oliver

rikersbeard
3 years 1 month ago

maybe, but you can still think they sold low on Snider.

BluMule
3 years 1 month ago

Oh thats for sure, here to hoping Lincoln can be the new Janssen and be a silent killer for us.

mozelpuffski
3 years 1 month ago

or the next morrow?

baseballz
3 years 1 month ago

Watch Lincoln pitch, new Janssen if were lucky. Im thinking this is AA hedging his bets on Sergio Santos coming back healthy and effective

MaineSox
3 years 1 month ago

How are the three relievers he got going to be worth more than Snider, Thames, and the prospects he got rid of?

BluMule
3 years 1 month ago

The GM he is dealing with said we dont want OF we want bullpen pieces. *IM PULLING AT STRAWS GIVE ME A BREAK*

MaineSox
3 years 1 month ago

Boston doesn’t really need outfielders, but as long as AA is giving away everyday players for middling relievers he can send some Boston’s way.

Lunchbox45
3 years 1 month ago

Breaking! Jays send Yunel Escobar to boston for a guy with an arm who says he has a curveball

MaineSox
3 years 1 month ago

The Sox must have picked Darnell McDonald back up, he relieved for them once and threw something that registered as a curve.

malna
3 years 1 month ago

Everyday players? Snider will not be a full time starter in Pitt, and Thames is a terrible starting fielding option.

mozelpuffski
3 years 1 month ago

i think he was referrng to cordero and francisco haha

malna
3 years 1 month ago

Ummm no. He was saying that AA has given up everyday players for relievers and will likely continue to do so. Those everyday players would have to be Snider or Thames since neither of the Fransiscos were everyday players, and one of them was not even a position player.

Disqus is a relatively easy format to follow, you should try it some time.

Edit: not to mention, @MaineSox clearly mentioned Snider and Thames in his post, hence why I addressed those two players.

3 years 1 month ago

Which every day players has Toronto traded? I didn’t notice any. Francisco, nope. Snider, nope. Thames, nope.

suhiscrazierthanyou
3 years 1 month ago

Thames is useless. Snider has never shown any consistency hitting

Jeremy Weaver
3 years 1 month ago

Great! Now the Jays can unload some of their new pitchers to my Cubs for Garza AND Soriano or even Lahair. What do you think Jays fan? Would AA do that? lol…

BluMule
3 years 1 month ago

deal but throw in like 10 dollars for a beer please

cyberboo
3 years 1 month ago

If the Jays traded anything more than a Chad Jenkins and filler, it would be a massive overpay. Garza isn’t worth anything of value. Garza, the guy with the 5.43 ERA and 12 – 27 record against the Red Sox, Yankees, Tigers, Rangers, and Angels. Just an FYI, but those are the teams the Jays have to beat to reach the playoffs and you don’t do it with a pitcher that gets blown off the mound in hitters parks.

skiingallday
3 years 1 month ago

AA is a man with a plan… Just sit back and watch, the Jays will likely make another move

MaineSox
3 years 1 month ago

For a reliever…

skiingallday
3 years 1 month ago

Who knew that either of these trades were coming? Nobody. AA keeps things quiet, and I bet he’ll surprise a few of us in the next few hours

3 years 1 month ago

And I think AA is So overrated.

notsureifsrs
3 years 1 month ago

so was ricciardi. it’s not enough to have a plan

skiingallday
3 years 1 month ago

The difference is that so far AA’s plan is actually working, unlike JP where we just treaded watre

ice_hawk10
3 years 1 month ago

this deal i’m fine with from the jays perspective. i think we’ve seen the best of thames in toronto, and most are pretty sure that he will never hit well enough to either a) DH or b) overcome his awful outfield defense enough to play full time.

delabar seems like a pretty interesting piece.

Jaysfan724
3 years 1 month ago

“Snider traded?…oh yeah I’m going to Seattle to start again…it’s my time baby!”
– Eric Thames

“haha…that’s cute.”
– AA

Wes Whitenack
3 years 1 month ago

Good deal for Seattle. Get a nice younger bat and didn’t give up anything real useful. (Delabar has a homer problem, and leaving Safeco won’t help him.)

rikersbeard
3 years 1 month ago

Thames has a sucking problem. Real nice guy, but leaving Canada that won’t help him.

Jaysfan724
3 years 1 month ago

“Seattle has the best fielding percentage in the majors”

…is what they said before they traded for Eric Thames.

Wes Whitenack
3 years 1 month ago

Good luck with Delabar giving up dingers left and right in Toronto with his 2.2 HR/9 rate. He was very much a fringe reliever, we aren’t going to miss him. Thames can work at DH as well here, and being a lefty should help slightly in Safeco.

And P.S. we lead the league in UZR and we already had a verison of him earlier in the year with Mike Carp.

rikersbeard
3 years 1 month ago

haha, good luck getting that bat to play at DH. Pretty sure Seattle doesn’t need more fringe bats in that lineup

Wes Whitenack
3 years 1 month ago

Delabar is a fringe AAAA pitcher. He just got called up because of injury in the pen. I’d take a chance on a LHH with some pop over a medicore homer prone reliever every day of the week.

ice_hawk10
3 years 1 month ago

yes the fringe AAAA pitcher with 11.29K/9 and 2.7BB/9 in the majors this year.

Wes Whitenack
3 years 1 month ago

This time last year he was a teacher. He’s barely worthy to be in our bullpen, so there’s nothing special here.

ice_hawk10
3 years 1 month ago

what he was doing last year is irrelevant. what is relevant is that he has demonstrated (in a limited sample) that he can be highly effective against mlb hitting. you are right that the homers are a red flag, but there is a considerable amount of luck involved in having a 27%HR/FB rate, especially playing at safeco.

look, this is not an earth shattering trade by any means. delabar is a flawed but interesting reliever, and thames is likely no more than a 4th OF who cant play defense and doesnt hit well enough to DH.

Wes Whitenack
3 years 1 month ago

If you take middle relievers like Lueke, Delabar and League and turn them into Good young hitters like Jaso and now Thames to go along with the prospects from LA, you’re doing it right. Even if it’s hit and miss, it better to try to get a good bat on the low then just keep an average reliever for a team that’s not going anywhere.

Jaysfan724
3 years 1 month ago

This really wasn’t meant to be a groundbreaking trade. Thames has absolutely zero value and was never going to see Toronto again. It’s not like the Jays have been blessed with great relief pitching this year barring a select few. AA probably just picked one out of hat and said this will do.

Wes Whitenack
3 years 1 month ago

But the most important part is Peguero is gone. It amazes me what anyone sees in him. He was give only 42 PA’s and had 22K and only 1 walk. Good Riddance to him.

Also Guti should return in the middle of August sometime so he’ll get a couple week tryout for our major league team.

3 years 1 month ago

Wow, there goes that ridiculous OF depth the Jays used to have.

Hate to break it to Toronto, but at least one of Thames or Snider is bound to develop to their potential.

oseebhai
3 years 1 month ago

I don’t think Thames has much potential bud.

malna
3 years 1 month ago

Seems like there is still a lot of depth with Bautista/Rasmus/R.Davis/Gose/Sierra/Marisnick/Pillar/DJDavis in terms of potential and readiness. Not to mention Gomes and Encarnacion can spell a breath in LF as well.

Runtime
3 years 1 month ago

I cringe everytime I see a Catcher try and play LF…

malna
3 years 1 month ago

Gomes is a very useful and athletic utility player that can probably field every corner spot on the diamond at an average level, including catcher. I cringe more when I see Davis out there / saw Thames.

Runtime
3 years 1 month ago

It wasn’t meant to be a stab at Gomes… just a joke

malna
3 years 1 month ago

I see. The generalization did not come through very well as humour on this here interwebs. Apologies.