7:22am: The sides are expected to announce an agreement Wednesday, Scott Miller of CBSSports.com reports (on Twitter). The Phillies have had a six-year offer worth $135MM-plus on the table since the weekend, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports (on Twitter).
12:25am: The Phillies and Cole Hamels are close to completing a six-year contract extension worth more than $137.5MM according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. It will be the second largest contract ever given to a pitcher behind C.C. Sabathia's seven-year, $161MM pact with the Yankees.
This post was first published on Wednesday, July 25th.
That’s what I’m talking about
Me too
Good to know my Hamels jersey will maintain relevance for another 6 years
About time
Hmmm.. Glad for Philly/Hamels, or so some of the NYY “fans” won’t be all over this place in the off season going wild with all sorts of off the wall, 30m kinds of contracts they should be offering? yeah.. probably a few Sox homers as well
For the record? I am glad he is staying, but the just have to find a way to unload some of those boat anchor deals currently on the books.
I’m glad for the Phillies, and the Yankees do not (technically I should say Did not) need Hamels all that badly. I was hoping for him to stay in Philly.
Agree the NYY didn’t need him, but you just knew the call would have come out here for them to sign him. Same as from Boston fans and it didn’t matter if the cost was going to be the looks like 23-25mAAV over 6 seasons.
If their goal really is to get the payroll under $189 million, then there’s no chance of doing that. They already have 4 starters set for next year even if/when Kuroda goes. The Yankees….Currently…are not weak in SP.
Heck Philly, I hope ya’ll think he’s worth it. Potential happiest man in the world: Initials ZG.
Are you kidding me? How can the Phillies field a decent team while staying below the 200m mark?
Is this deal a precursor to another huge trade…like Lee?
I like Hamels, he’s obviously a good pitcher, but I feel 23 per is still an overpayment, sorry.
Greinke although actually a better pitcher won’t get that kind of money because the big market teams are going to stay away. I personally thought he was ridiculous for turning down 5/100 from the brewers to play at a place where he was happy at.
Greinke will get below market value and will be better than hamels going forward
Because his market’s limited.
Greinke will get close to Matt Cain money. We’ll see what the market is for him when he’s finally a FA. No one thought there’d be much of a market for Prince Fielder, but he seems to have made out ok.
speak for yourself. I thought he would be a better buy than Pujols. I know pujols is better, but fielder is 4 years younger and was predicted that could be had for fewer years. The tigers only have him until 36, should be able to get good production out of him.
Hahahaha greinke is not a better pitcher the hamels…. Get real buddy
zach galifinakis?
Dude. Classic!
It actually says more than $137.5 million in the article and in his tweet (maybe not by a whole lot, just pointing it out though)
Where do they get the money for these moves?
They were included in someone not named stimulus grant..
Edit:
before Philly fans take this wrong.. Philly sells out many games and is strongly supported locally. Have a decent TV deal to boot. The only issue now is probably moving 1-2 of the contracts they have on the books to keep the team competitive and allowing most of the others now to lapse that are coming up.
Now they just need to hand Victorino $20M a year and they’re set.
horrible deal. Hamels isn’t worth that kind of money. Philidelphia isn’t going to be able to compete with the rest of the East unless they get some offense, and they won’t be able to afford any offense when they pay their number 3 pitcher 24 million a year.
You’re not the first person to mention this in the thread…and i just don’t see where you all are finding this. Despite mass injuries the Phils are 9th in the NL in OPS…The Mets and Braves are 7 and 8, .011 and .012 ahead of the Phils.
You really think 11 one-thousandths of OPS makes that big of a difference? The Phils are where they are because their bullpen has come up small in too many situations, and their rotation has had injury issues. The one solid starter they’ve had all year is…COLE HAMELS.
The Phillies are an old team and they don’t get younger with this move. I’m not just speaking of where there offense is now but where it’s going. Utley and Howard are only going to decline more, there aren’t big offensive prospects coming up for the phillies. And they just tied up 25 million in their number 3 pitcher, how are they going to get better on offense?
Hamels is a 28 year old left handed ace? How much younger does he need to be? But I really wanted to get some nice prospects for him from the Rangers
I honestly see Hamels more of a number 2 pitcher than an ace, but that wasn’t my point. The pitching is great. It’s the hitting that’s getting old very quickly.
a single tear rolls down nolan ryan’s cheek.
He can have Cliff…
He might jump off that very cliff.
I read your comments on here alot as I think you are a Phillies fan that makes a lot of sense. However why are you so set on moving Lee? The phillies have the means to compete with him in the fold, IMO. Not only that, I still think he is close to an elite pitcher with this year really being a blip
I absolutely agree this year’s a blip (mainly because he’s only had 4-5 really bad starts). I’m not sure I’m set on moving Cliff Lee. If they got blown away for Cliff I wouldn’t mind trading him. I’m more adamant about trading Victorino and Pence if we get value back.
I think the team needs to add some young players to the puzzle. Cliff would be an excellent chip to do so.
In the MLB, if you don’t do good, you get traded. Cliff Lee should get traded. I like him though.
He is a Dodger fan? ;…) We are officially the sorriest franchise in the last quarter century and beyond.
Damn ;..(
You get Dempster though…….
Damn ;…(
Haha
If it happens, I won’t be too thrilled about continuing to see him pitch against the Braves multiple times every season. But good for Hamels for getting paid royally and good for the Phillies fans for not having to lose one of their favorites.
Sounds like the Brewers really benefit from this. Olt will be a good fit for the Brewers, and batting behind Braun, especially if they can trade Rameriz.
Marlins could still jump in since demand will be so high
Very true as a cards fan I wouldn’t trade Shelby Miller for Greinke but I definitely would for Johnson.
Really glad to see he’s going to continue to pitch in Phillies pinstripes. Been saying all along he wasn’t going anywhere.
Could never picture him pitching in another uniform. Philadelphia is his home. Not LA.
Congratulations, you win the contest
I’m just glad he wouldnt be moving to the AL east. Could have seen the sox, toronto, or balt making a decent run at him.
Good for the Phillies. At least the fans have that to be happy about.
So who trades for Doc?
SInce the Dodgers seem to be in on overpaid players these days, its safe to say they would be in contention.
I just shake my head when I read people’s posts asking how the phillies can afford to pay these pitchers 20 million plus, in addition to everything else. And how they have to move players like Lee to make this fit. The fact is, no one here, myself included, have any idea what the phillies front office can do and the means they have.
what I do know, is that the phillies sell out close to every game, have a very very strong local and now national following and will be closing a massive TV deal in the next 2 years. What I am getting at is, if the Yankees or Red Sox were to make moves like this, no one would bat an eye because folks are used to these very large market teams buying what they want. I am realizing that the Phillies are entering this top large market team echelon. They can have 3, 20 million dollar pitchers because they can.
Well, they’re currently in last place in their division a year after winning a franchise record 102 games. Sell out all you want, they need offense and they’re limiting that by handing out enormous contracts to pitchers(Lee, Halladay, Hamels, Papelbon(lol))
My point is, who says they are limited? You? Me? Other commenters on this site?
Whether they are limited are not, it is not smart to have that much money tied up in a pitching staff.
It’s not smart to have money tied up to 3 of the best pitchers in baseball? Damn then what is smart?
While keeping the best pitchers in the game may be brilliant it is not so when a team has as many question marks as the Phillies. Tell me the last time a team won a world series with 3 20 million dollar pitchers not to mention a closer that makes 10 million?
I agree since now when they have holes it seems they just throw their prospects who truly aren’t ready up to the MLB and it doesn’t usually go well. Though if Halladay, Lee, and Hamels pitch to their ability that should be a solid 6 or 7 innigs every time and then Papelbon should shut the door in the 9th.
Im more of the thinking that with 100 million tied up in 5 players; Hamels, Lee, Halladay, Howard, Pap the Phils are assuming these guys stay healthy the majority of the season. There is little to no room for improvement if these guys get injured.
That’s true but the only question mark is really Howard, the other four guys are considered to be on the elite level of their position, that’s why the Phillies and everyone else have expectations as high as their AAV.
Their offense is actually pretty good. Better then most trams in the nl. Get your facts straighg. What has let them down this year is halladat n lee having off years and one of the worst hullpens in the league. Its so funny that everyone just jumps on the phillies offense before even looking at the facts…
Did anyone really think that Hamels was going anywhere? It was really fun to speculate and discuss but in the back of my mind I knew he was staying in Philly.
I really thought the Phillies might actually use common sense and realize that they need to acquire some young talent. They have too many question marks and already have 5 ridiculous contracts.
other contracts aside, Hamels is young talent. only 28.
They could be a decent team if not for the left side of their infield. Polanco has got to be one of the worst offensive 3B on any team. Rollins may be ok, but I still feel he shouldn’t be leading off. Maybe if you stash him at the bottom, but he doesn’t get on base enough. .313 obp from your leadoff man does not cut it.
The odds of us acquiring franchise talent for Cole Hamels is slim. Trades for Aces mid season (Cliff Lee, CC Sabathia, etc) haven’t panned out.
I would have taken a chance on Mike Olt.
Yay Guys! (also if this falls through and rosenthal got my hopes up, I am leading the angry torch and pitchfork mob to his house.) YAYY!!!
I guess big market teams don’t rebuild!
Even when they’re in last place…….apparently. I think this comes back and bites them in the long run though, regardless of how many sellouts they have.
Are you just mad because you wanted your team to get Hamels? At the end of the season lets see if their still in last place since they’re finally healthy
at least hamels will be making bank when he’s on a team full of overpaid old players
So who wants Pence?
Mets own Hamels so uh…Yeah…Good job Phils thanks for the free win the next 6 years!
Meet the Philadelphia Phillies, Yankees of Pennsylvania. Halladay, Howard, Lee, now Hamels? Boy I still remember the salary dumping Abreu and Lidle for a bag of balls and a couple of batting practice pitchers.
Probably wouldn’t happen but hope the Yankees pick him up and put him as their No.2 starter in their rotation
rangers have to go after zack greinke now
This is step one of the (small) rebuild hopefully. I would like to see Polanco get moved at the deadline and/or Shane Victorino. Both of these guys aren’t getting the job done. Although Polanco won’t bring back anything exciting, Victorino could get a good return if he goes to a team that is needy of an experienced outfielder with postseason experience. I can see him going to the Indians or White Sox.
He’s basically getting the same contract Johan Santana got when he signed with the Mets.
I can’t believe this! I thought Hamels would want 7 years! Holy cow this would be a ‘nice’ deal for the Phils…? Well, not the kind of best deal for Amaro I know that. But we can keep Cole in Philly, that’s the one thing.
Halladay might only be there 1 more year.
Halladay’s only signed for one more year…
Phillies are gonna start looking like the Yankees very soon in regards to age and money being spent while the rest of the division continues to go young and will be competing in the years to come.
He hasnt had a dominant stretch like in years past.
I think he can manage 415 IP before the end of 2013. Then again, the Phillies might just shut him down since they’re not really competing……
Oh, he needs just 215 IP next year for his 2014 option to vest?
Why would I be mad as a Tigers fan?
He’d need to throw around 260 innings next year for his option to vest if he throws the max innings possible this year.
…with a vesting option for 2014.
The Rangers has been rumored to reattain Lee for another postseason run or should I say runs.
That isn’t going to vest.
What leads you to believe such.
Roy Halladay has to pitch about 331.2 innings between now and the end of the 2013 season….
If you think that’s going to happen I’m wasting my time arguing with you.
So if he throws 225 or more innings next season, it doesn’t vest?
No it doesn’t.
From B-R…..
“option vests with 225 IP in 2013, 415 IP in 2012-2013 and player not on DL at end of 2013”
All 3 of those things have to happen in order for it to vest?
Yes.
I’m genuinely curious about this…..
Correct. If he misses any one of those three, he’s a free agent after next season.
Then I apologize if you know this for a fact. However, that’s a pretty odd clause to have in the contract and shame on B-R for not specifying.
Cliff lee will most likely be traded in the offseason imo… now with only greinke being on the market as an elitr pitcher phillies will have a bunch of teams callin the phils for lee. They shoyld be able to aquire atleast one top prospect and another lower level with good potential. That would free up money to upgrade the offense n add another solid arm. I would love to see them go all in for hamilton. I also would like to see them take a chance on brabdon mccarthy, kid is a stud when he is actually able to pitch…
Dodgers got Hanley now …