Dodgers Awarded Claim On Adrian Gonzalez

4:22pm: The Dodgers are "very serious" about trading for Gonzalez and have lots of options, Yahoo's Jeff Passan reports (on Twitter).

2:51pm: There’s a growing possibility that the Red Sox will trade Gonzalez to the Dodgers, Gordon Edes of ESPNBoston.com reports. However, Red Sox officials told Edes they “love Adrian” and are simply exploring all ways of improving their team.

2:12pm: The Red Sox are listening to the Dodgers' trade pitch for Gonzalez, but the chances of a deal being completed are slim, Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe reports (on Twitter).

12:52pm: The Dodgers have erased any lingering doubts about their willingness to spend big on impact MLB players. They were awarded the waiver claim on Adrian Gonzalez, the latest in a series of aggressive moves by the team's new ownership group, Bill Shaikin of the LA Times reports (on Twitter). The Dodgers and Red Sox now have until Sunday to discuss a possible trade, but August waivers are revocable, so the Red Sox can elect to hold onto Gonzalez.

Alternatively, Boston GM Ben Cherington could work out a trade involving Gonzalez or assign the San Diego native and the $130MM-plus remaining on his contract to the Dodgers. The Dodgers couldn't have won the claiming rights unless every American League team passed on Gonzalez, as well as every National League team with a worse record than Los Angeles.

Gonzalez can’t block a move to the Dodgers, Dylan Hernandez of the Los Angeles Times reported yesterday. However, the Red Sox would only move Gonzalez in a transformative or franchise-changing move, Ken Rosenthal reported. Boston wouldn't let him go for nothing, Jon Heyman added. Jim Bowden of MLB Network Radio and ESPN.com asked a Red Sox official if Boston will trade Gonzalez to Los Angeles in the next two days and the person replied 'no' (Twitter link). If the Red Sox are willing to consider trading Gonzalez, they could wait until the offseason and engage more teams.

Gonzalez, the first overall pick in the 2000 draft, will earn $21MM per season through 2016 and obtain a raise to $21.5MM for 2017-18. The total exceeds $130MM when accounting for the remainder of Gonzalez's 2012 salary. The 30-year-old has a .300/.343/.469 batting line with 15 home runs and 37 doubles in 527 plate appearances this year. He would represent a considerable upgrade over James Loney for the Dodgers.

Since taking over at the beginning of the 2012 season team president Stan Kasten and chairman Mark Walter have made it clear that they're willing to spend aggressively. The Dodgers claimed Cliff Lee on waivers earlier this month after trading for Shane Victorino, Hanley Ramirez, Joe Blanton and Brandon League.


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167 Comments on "Dodgers Awarded Claim On Adrian Gonzalez"


Gumby65
3 years 4 days ago

This changes everything….
Didn’t expect him to slip through.

Karkat
3 years 4 days ago

No it doesn’t. 😛

Gumby65
3 years 4 days ago

Actually it does.

Karkat
3 years 3 days ago

Well played, sir.

Lunchbox45
3 years 4 days ago

k not that he’s actually going to get traded, but how does he make it all the way to the dodgers anyways?

Karkat
3 years 4 days ago

That’s a pretty good question o.o

sdsuphilip
3 years 4 days ago

he isn’t worth his contract

Lunchbox45
3 years 4 days ago

that’s a ridiculous statement. the market suggests its a bargain

sdsuphilip
3 years 4 days ago

No it doesn’t a player making a excess of 21 million+ over the next 5 years that is showing power decline already and aging is not a “bargain”

Lunchbox45
3 years 4 days ago

wow

swa0807
3 years 4 days ago

I don’t think it is a power decline. I think it’s that even though fenway may be more hitter friendly than PETCO, it may not be suited to his power and the rest of the parks in the A.L. may not suit him as well as N.L. parks. Or he just changed his approach in Boston.

sdsuphilip
3 years 4 days ago

That’s a cop out of a answer, he plays about 70% of his games in Fenway, Camden, Yankee Stadium, and Rogers center all extreme hitters parks and it looks like he won’t slug 500 for the first time since his Rangers days, also it looks like he will ISO under 200 for first time since he was 24, he is aging and already 30, and I haven’t even meantioned his walk rate

Tommy Ngo
3 years 4 days ago

I’m a Padres fan and I love Adrian but this is not a bargain.. How is the 8th highest paid player in the league a bargain?

He is one of the best hitters in the league though but a bargain would be Giancarlo Stanton for 480k or Mike Trout.

Lunchbox45
3 years 4 days ago

and one day statnton and trout will get paid well, you can’t compare 1st and 2nd year players to a veteran who could have already reached Free Agency

reality is, that Gonzalez is in the class of Fielder, Votto, Pujols, Teixera, Howard

and is getting paid the least of all of them. The bargain lies in his extension, had he reached free agency he would havent gotten paid much more.

Tommy Ngo
3 years 4 days ago

Well I was just defining a true “bargain”. Adrian’s contract is not one. I guess if you want to take that route, Josh Willingham 3 years 21 million is a better bargain.

Lunchbox45
3 years 4 days ago

no sorry, there can only be one bargain.

Odawg8
3 years 4 days ago

and he is easily having the worst year out of all of them (except for the injured Howard, who doesn’t really belong in this tier anyway IMO), and therefore should be earning way less than them, which he is not.

and a minor correction, i get the point but Pujols is actually only getting paid about $12MM this year, his deal is severely backloaded.

Karkat
3 years 4 days ago

Among other issues, this is implying that there was ever a remote chance of the Red Sox just dumping him on another team. That was NEVER going to happen, so that “risk” should not have factored into any team’s claim decision.

ultimate913
3 years 4 days ago

Dat contract.

jfretless
3 years 4 days ago

Must be nice to be able put fires out by throwing money on them.

BVHjays
3 years 4 days ago

The Marlins agree.

The Bad Guy 78
3 years 4 days ago

Trade him!

Devern Hansack
3 years 4 days ago

Any chance that the Dodgers have the prospects and are willing to get a deal done?

sdsuphilip
3 years 4 days ago

no

Lunchbox45
3 years 4 days ago

hanley +

BlueSkyLA
BlueSkyLA
3 years 4 days ago

Yeah, that makes tons of sense.

johnsilver
3 years 4 days ago

Boston wasn’t “in” really on Hanley before, agreed. I realy don’t see any chance of Gonzalez getting to LAD Bluesky, since a sensible LAD fan has posted here. Still think Morneau is the Dodgers best fit for a both St/LT solution at that problem.

Only way can see Boston moving Gonzo is if1)

Somehow the Sox go into a rare rebuild mode

LAD takes on a huge contract, besides Gonzalez and gives up multiple decent prospects and honestly? going after Mauer during the winter is a FAR bett idea, saving $$$ ST and LT, not to mention probably even fewer prospects.

It’s just not a fit at all and going to give a lot of people here a reason to post.

BlueSkyLA
BlueSkyLA
3 years 4 days ago

Getting right down to basics it also would make no sense for the Dodgers to take one step forward and one step backwards. The odds that Gonzales goes anywhere are long, but to put it another way, nobody else but the Dodgers is both in a position to inherit his contract and motivated enough to do the deal. We can only guess what it would take, but swallowing his massive contract should be a large part of the price of making it happen, and my guess is the new ownership is wiling to pay that price.

MaineSox
3 years 4 days ago

His contract should be a positive (to any team who can afford large contracts), not a negative, simply because he has the best contract of any of the other comparable players. They couldn’t go out and get another player as good as Gonzalez on as good a contract as Gonzalez.

Paying $80k for a Veyron doesn’t work for me because I can’t afford it, but it’s a screaming deal to anyone who can.

BlueSkyLA
BlueSkyLA
3 years 4 days ago

So here’s a point of view we could discuss sensibly. My feeling is that the contract is on the bubble. Some teams could not take it on, just as you say, simply because they can’t afford it. This limits the market considerably. The other question in play is how the player would fit into any given team’s lineup. He’d slot right in for the Dodgers, probably not so much for another team at this particular moment. Both factors weigh towards the Dodgers valuing Gonzales more highly than other teams, and Boston has to know that. I think they’d have to offer one or two decent prospects, but not empty the farm system. So much depends on whether the BoSox are motivated, and I don’t we know anything about that.

MaineSox
3 years 4 days ago

I don’t see any reason why the Red Sox would be motivated to move Gonzalez. To a team who can afford him (like Boston) he really is a relative bargain, and they aren’t going to get that kind of production for anything close to what they owe him (and there’s no one available to give anything like that kind of production anyway), so I really think, unless they can significantly improve positions of greater need (and live with less production out of 1B), they would prefer just to keep him.

BlueSkyLA
BlueSkyLA
3 years 4 days ago

Could be, but the teams do seem to be talking, which means the BoSox have some motivation or are at least interested enough to hear what the Dodgers have to offer. We aren’t hearing the instant “he’s going nowhere” response the Dodgers got from the Phillies when they claimed Cliff Lee, so that says something.

MaineSox
3 years 4 days ago

Sure, I think Boston would be willing to listen on anyone at this point (after missing the playoffs for three straight years in a market like Boston, you have to be willing to look at all possible options), but I still think they would have to be pretty blown away by the return to move a guy like Gonzalez.

Boston’s biggest need is pitching, and LA has a lot of pitching, so I don’t think a deal is impossible (and as much as I really like Gonzalez, I wouldn’t mind moving him in the right deal), but I think it would have to be in the offseason (too many guys Boston would want are on the 40 man roster), and I think LA would probably balk at the asking price.

BlueSkyLA
BlueSkyLA
3 years 4 days ago

Willingness to talk is step one, but step two is a long way from step one!

IdontknowwhyIpostonforums
3 years 4 days ago

I agree with you on the lack of motivation for the Red Sox to move him. I mean, I don’t live in Boston, so I am not sure how hated he really is, but from the games I have seen, he is still one of the best 1B in the game.

Additionally, I don’t see a match-up with the Dodgers. Who would the Sox want that the Dodgers would be willing to part with? All players must clear waivers so chances are there is very little that could change hands.

Personally, I am ok with LA not getting AGon just because I would rather take a shorter deal for a guy like Morneau and spend that money on pursuing a top outfielder.

EDIT: All players on the 40-man must clear.

MaineSox
3 years 4 days ago

I know, that’s why I think a deal would have to be in the offseason, if it were to happen at all.

soxfan0928
3 years 4 days ago

Here’s the conversation:

Colletti: Hey, what do you want for Adrian Gonzalez?
Cherrington: Clayton Kershaw.
Colletti: *click*
Cherrington: *Revokes Gonzalez*

sdsuphilip
3 years 4 days ago

Really it is a non story, Dodgers don’t have the prospects and Red Sox aren’t a money strapped team that will give his contract up without anything in return, they will pull him back.

Gumby65
3 years 4 days ago

Which is exactly why they put him on waivers in the first place no doubt, just so they can be Lucy pulling the football back before Chuck can kick it.

Devern Hansack
3 years 4 days ago

What if they agreed to absorb a good chunk of Crawford’s contract? He and Punto have already cleared waivers.

BVHjays
3 years 4 days ago

I mean, you’re probably right.

But with a team that reportedly is trying to cut back on mega-money contracts, this is a chance to rid themselves of an $130M commitment.

Here’s a thought: Give them Gonzalez if they’ll take Crawford too. (Okay, that might be getting a bit crazy. It’s Friday. I’m tired.)

3 years 4 days ago

Crawford would have to clear waivers, someone would claim him just to destroy that deal. Edit: Guess he did clear. Nice research on my part

Jorden
3 years 4 days ago

crawford already cleared waivers and can be dealt to anyone.

Ry.the_Stunner
3 years 4 days ago

The Dodgers have NO need for Crawford. They have an outfield of Kemp, Ethier, and Victorino.

3 years 4 days ago

Victorino is a free agent after the season

belarde26
3 years 4 days ago

Victorino already said he is going to talk about an extension soon or after the season. He wants to stay in LA.

Klaus D.
3 years 4 days ago

Of course he did. He’s trying to make a good impression on his new team, city, etc. How often do players get traded to a new city and when asked if they want to stay by local media, say, “man, this place sucks. I’m outta here as soon as the season’s over”.

3 years 4 days ago

And CC is out until next year anyhow, so it would not crowd the outfield this year.

Lunchbox45
3 years 4 days ago

no he’s not, the recovery for position players is not as long

YanksFanSince78
3 years 4 days ago

He said he is OUT until next year, not out for all of next year. Unless he edited his post then he assumes he will start 2013 in shape, ready to go.

Lunchbox45
3 years 4 days ago

he edited

3 years 4 days ago

No i did not.

MaineSox
3 years 4 days ago

Edit: pretty much exactly what YFS78 said.

Lunchbox45
3 years 4 days ago

original post was CC is gone for all of next year

Paul
3 years 4 days ago

Yes he is. Read it again. He is out “until” net year, when Vicotino will (or could) be gone. So no overcrowding.

Jarrod Mitchell
3 years 4 days ago

Crawford is out until at least the begging of next season as well. No thanks.

matthew07
3 years 4 days ago

Yeah, he might be “begging” to play next season. LOL

GasLampGuru
3 years 4 days ago

Crawford is having TJ surgery, which means he wont be able to throw a ball from the outfield at all for at least 12 months. Crawford would essentially need to DH in order to play at all next season.

Jason_F
3 years 4 days ago

Incorrect. Pretty much everywhere you look, it mentions a six month recovery time frame from TJ surgery for position players. That puts him in line to be back in time for Spring Training.

MaineSox
3 years 4 days ago

Position players generally start throwing programs at 5 months after TJ surgery, and can throw in game action after 6-7 months. It generally takes about a year for their arm strength to be back to 100%, but they can start throwing in half that time.

go_jays_go
3 years 4 days ago

I wouldn’t call it a non-story. If Gonzalez is pulled back from the waivers, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Dodgers and Red Sox explore a deal in the off-season.

Claiming someone on waivers is more of a precursor for the off-season.

sdsuphilip
3 years 4 days ago

Actually it is not at all, the dodgers don’t have the players to get adrian whether it be in offseason or in season, nothing changes that.

MaineSox
3 years 4 days ago

Well, in the offseason they could move players off of their major league roster to trade for him, but I don’t think they would trade the major leaguers it would take to get him, and I don’t think they have the prospects to do it, so it’s pretty much a moot point.

ThinkBlue10
3 years 4 days ago

Do you know the Dodgers farm system well enough to say that? I think the Dodgers have the money and enough prospects to land him. Lee, Webster, and Pederson would be a good core of players to send to Boston.

sdsuphilip
3 years 4 days ago

They can easily get more in the open market during the offseason.

3 years 4 days ago

Chances of this are slim to none, and slim just left town.

redlake
3 years 4 days ago

Well put, I agree……but thinking that he would look nice in our line-up…dream on.
IF he came over I’ll bet he would catch fire, Boston is a horrible place to be right now.

johnsilver
3 years 4 days ago

There is a old saying that fits well as to the chances.. better than all of my other posts and probably better than all the 2-300 that will end up being posted here:

When pigs can fly.. That is the likelihood Gonzalez ends up in LA, or at least before the season ends…

Edit:

Maybe the Pig is being towed out to the landing strip??

Edit #2
Warming up engines now….

bigpat
3 years 4 days ago

Getting sick of the Red Sox waiver players the only ones making news, 99.99999999999% odds that he stays in Boston.

johnsilver
3 years 4 days ago

You are? i am tired of the dolts here who think Boston should give away every person (Gonzalez here) just because they get the press and are on waivers.

sometimes it IS better to be in a press starved town where the biggest thing going on is actual the normal folks going to work, struggles of reality etc.. Like Pittsburgh and KC, unlike in places like Boston, NY, LA, where they seem to have 5 writers for every real working ‘stiff” and the ones who cannot find a real story take mind altering materials and lay back..Then type away….

BVHjays
3 years 4 days ago

Yeah! I don’t understand why more people don’t argue that the Rays need to shed all those huge contracts!

Odawg8
3 years 4 days ago

…they should give Gonzalez away, his contract is going to be an albatross soon (if it isn’t already) and now a team is offering to take it off their hands and help them get under the luxury tax. I don’t think that they will do it, mostly because Cherington is scared to give off any impression of a rebuild whatsoever, but I think it would most likely be a good idea for them.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 4 days ago

Well to be fair, this post is about who won the claim. About 4 or 5 other posts of claims were listed in the last day or two as well.

jeffmaz
3 years 4 days ago

So you’re telling me there’s a chance?

johnsilver
3 years 4 days ago

Now it gets interesting..**IF** Boston decides they even want to move him.. LAD 1st off takes Beckett and pays him, then does LA have enough prospects to make it worthwhile for Boston to go into full blown rebuild mode?

Heck.. Give ’em Salty also while they are at it….

Jorden
3 years 4 days ago

beckett would most like veto a trade to LA.

Ben_Cherington
3 years 4 days ago

Any evidence? He doesnt seem happy in Boston. He isnt going to the playoffs this year.

cp6208
3 years 4 days ago

He cant block a trade to LA

Karkat
3 years 4 days ago

Uhhh, 10-5 rights?

jwsox
3 years 4 days ago

10-5 literally means 10 years in the MLB and 5 years on the same team. He does not have these rights.

Karkat
3 years 4 days ago

I am well aware of what 10-5 right are. And Josh Beckett has about 10.5 years of MLB service time (over parts of 12 seasons) and has been with the Red Sox since 2006 (putting him in his 7th season). Unless I’m missing something, that gives him 10-5 rights.

cp6208
3 years 4 days ago

Sorry i thought you were talking about a gon

Karkat
3 years 4 days ago

I mean, the post you responded to was about Beckett so I assumed we were on the same page.

cp6208
3 years 4 days ago

And that is why i apologized you see how that works?

jwsox
3 years 4 days ago

Oh my bad I thought you were talking about Adrian.

Jamie Sayer
3 years 4 days ago

That actually makes the most sense to me, if they could get LA to also take Beckett it could be worthwhile depending on the offer.

$6101468
3 years 4 days ago

A win-win situation for Boston. Maybe squeeze a prospect or two and shed a boat load of money.

Jason_F
3 years 4 days ago

I think you’re ignoring a significant loss in that equation…the fact that you would be subtracting one of the best first baseman in the game from the on-field product.

3 years 4 days ago

Agreed, why would the Sox want to do this for anything less than a franchise pitcher?

zonis
3 years 4 days ago

Maybe the Dodgers can try to find the corpse of Adam Eaton in return for Gonzalez!

bob-a-louie
3 years 4 days ago

Gonzalez for Ethier?

MaineSox
3 years 4 days ago

No

Odawg8
3 years 4 days ago

on the dodgers side

3 years 4 days ago

Do the Dodgers even have anything ‘franchise-changing’ to offer? Honestly, I’d rather keep him. He’s not the ‘dirt-dog’ everyone in Boston wants, but the guy can hit, he’s an above average defender, and hasn’t even reached his full potential. Arguably one of the top 5 all around hitters since the All-Star break.

Hoss
3 years 4 days ago

Unless the red sox need pitching the dodgers don’t have anything to offer. They have pitching in abundance though. Zach Lee would be franchise altering.

3 years 4 days ago

Pitching is exactly what the Red Sox need. Starting pitching is their biggest issue, among many others.

stl_cards16
3 years 4 days ago

Pretty much every system has a Zach Lee. Nice pitcher, not anywhere close to franchise altering.

johnsilver
3 years 4 days ago

Boston has Barnes, Owens ranked above Lee and if you want to check out top SP prospects already at AA? Boston already has Workman + Britton, doing better than Lee and closer to helping the team.

Barnes is a year, maybe a year and a half away. owens maybe 2-3. Britton and Workman 1-2 and they even have Hernandez at AAA who could be a back end SP and is just 23 and help out.

Lee isn’t going to be any kind of core piece to any deal that would make any deal when Boston has more numerous SP prospects that have had better results and a couple are even ranked higher in various charts/polls coming out.

it isn’t even beyond the realm to see Boston ask for a proven SP from the LAD current rotation and not one of the rubbish throwers either and just forget about the LAD prospects, plus take on Beckett as well.

Boston still has the key here.. One of the highest $$$ per WAR producers over the last 3 years as Over the monster site said and this site linked to a couple of articles previously. No need at all to move him.

ultimate913
3 years 4 days ago

Tell them you’ll let them have A-Gon + contract for free as long as they also win claim to one of Beckett, Lackey or Crawford.

Earl Gendron
3 years 4 days ago

How long was Lackey’s arm a problem…. the Sox put the “if the arm gets damaged, add another year at league minimum” into his contract for a reason. Who knows what he’ll be worth when he gets back, but that also drops his value luxury tax wise enough that its worth keeping him as a #3 vs how much we’d have to pay of his next two years