Rangers Moving Toward Deal With J.P. Arencibia

Catcher J.P. Arencibia and the Rangers are moving in the direction of striking a deal, FOX Sports' Ken Rosenthal writes (on Twitter). The Rangers reportedly were close to trading for Arencibia before the Blue Jays non-tendered him. Earlier this week, MLB.com's T.R. Sullivan reported that the Rangers would have been willing to make the trade if Arencibia had agreed to a contract that would have avoided arbitration. MLBTR estimated that Arencibia would have made $2.8MM in the arbitration process, so his deal with the Rangers, assuming it happens, will likely be for less than that.

Arencibia will presumably back up Geovany Soto in Texas. Arencibia hit just .194/.227/.365 in 2013 and is unlikely to ever hit for much of an average, but with his power, he can be effective if he bats above .215 or so, as he did in 2011 and 2012. He has 62 home runs in the past three seasons, and hitting in Arlington should help him add to that total.


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89 Comments on "Rangers Moving Toward Deal With J.P. Arencibia"


DerekJeterDan
1 year 8 months ago

On the bright side, Arrencibia and Fielder add a lot of power to the Rangers lineup.

malna
1 year 8 months ago

it is always good to take a positive out of something…

Jaysfan724
1 year 8 months ago

But see here’s the way he beats the system: He just doesn’t swing…at all…not one recorded swing. Sure he’ll have about 300 strikeouts (that’s nothing new), but his 300 walks will be untouched. Sure he’ll have an AVG of .000 but that K/BB ratio will be significantly improved.

malna
1 year 8 months ago

ah i see….

ye ole durability factor should definitely help make my gamble a sound investment

John LeClair
1 year 8 months ago

if he didn’t swing at all, wouldn’t teams pick up on that and just constantly strike him out?

Jaysfan724
1 year 8 months ago

The pressure to throw a strike knowing he won’t swing will be too overwhelming for some pitchers.

John LeClair
1 year 8 months ago

if thats the case, than if the opposing team ever needs to use a reliever they should just give the bat boy a try

malna
1 year 8 months ago

no way a stray batboy stands up to the pressure of facing strike3bia bases loaded, bottom of the ninth, Rangers up by 12 runs, knowing the guy is not gonna swing the bat….

the batboy will literally crumble on the mound

youre dreaming man

John LeClair
1 year 8 months ago

Hahaha yeah cause this whole senerio is just soo realistic

malna
1 year 8 months ago

obviously; jesse litsch, former batboy, probably used to light jpa up back in the days when they were just youngsters in extended spring training

malna
1 year 8 months ago

it is the threat of the swing which keeps the lions at bay

shysox
1 year 8 months ago

Very low career BABIP (.250) as a flyball hitter with a move to a tiny park might do him some good. Going from the best to the worst division with a change of scenery, who knows.

He can’t be much worse than both of their incumbents, which is why I was hoping they would at least take a chance.

JaysFan1996
1 year 8 months ago

well, in 43 at bat he has 7 Home runs at Rangers Ballpark with an OPS of 1.040 so you got that

Kyle
1 year 8 months ago

Confirming: I was at the Ballpark for all 7 of those home runs. Each one more depressing than the last coming from a .215 hitter.

malna
1 year 8 months ago

On the flip side, next year you will be depressed every time he strikes out, so, roughly, 30% of his PAs

Kyle
1 year 8 months ago

I’m really looking forward to having 2012 second-half Josh Hamilton back though.

malna
1 year 8 months ago

One could also say JPA’s low BABIP is a product of his terrible ability (if I dare call it that) to make contact, if any, with the ball.

JaysFan1996
1 year 8 months ago

Most of the last 3 season he was the “starter” but how can you give this guy 550 at bats with his performance. he’s not even good defensively

malna
1 year 8 months ago

Literally. He is just not good enough to get the requisite number of PA’s to hit 30 HR. Not very good defensively either…. in fact, about as bad as it gets…

Dave Andres
1 year 8 months ago

Infact he is terrible defensively

Rollie Fingerbangers
1 year 8 months ago

This is Jon Daniels first depth move taking care of the backup catcher. Now they need a guy who can play LF, 3B, DH to fill out the bench. I’m not against this move. Arencibia will be better than last year. He has to just like BJ Upton. They gotta do better.

malna
1 year 8 months ago

Well, BJ Upton has proven himself capable at the MLB level before, whereas Strike3bia has not.

Rollie Fingerbangers
1 year 8 months ago

Rangers are not getting Arencibia to be the regular catcher. He will play 30-35% of the time while Geovany Soto will play 65-70% of the catching duties. Arencibia won’t have to catch the great Yu Darvish. That will be Soto who catches Yu’s 2 no-hitters he will throw next year. (one against the Blue Jays)

Tko11
Tko11
1 year 8 months ago

100$ says they will both be nearly as bad as last year.

Pike Parker
1 year 8 months ago

As bad as he is at the plate, Arencibia might actually do less damage to the team as a DH.

Morley C
1 year 8 months ago

As long as no Rangers pitcher starts throwing a knuckleball, it might work.
And if he’s the backup and plays one game in Toronto next summer, Jays fans still get to see him strike out at least 3 times!

malna
1 year 8 months ago

edit… double post

malna
1 year 8 months ago

I think my other reply to this was removed as i used RAD’s real last name. Anyways…. Strike3bia is one of the worst defensive catchers in the MLB, something teams typically look for in a backup catcher. Last year, for some odd reason, we let JPA catch RAD in the game 1 home opener. Things did not turn out well and JPA never caught the knuckleball again. It was actually painful to watch.

Pike Parker
1 year 8 months ago

According to Arencibia’s cleat chasers on Twitter, Dickey caused Arencibia’s historically awful season by refusing to pitch to him after that game. I guess Arencibia can resume his “productive” ways in 2014 now that he doesn’t have a starting pitcher’s comments ruining his entire season.

malna
1 year 8 months ago

I liked this because the sarcasm was ambiguous….

Pike Parker
1 year 8 months ago

It depends on whether Snoochies is a Rangers fan or not. I’m betting not.

Twisted86
1 year 8 months ago

I’m glad the Sox are staying away from him!

toddcoffeytime
1 year 8 months ago

I don’t necessarily see it that way, he’s (probably) cheap and the backup catcher market is pretty thin as it is.. He’s also nice late game PH option when you’re looking for a HR or bust (which is JPA’s only skillset).

Tyler Koller
1 year 8 months ago

Ranger fans saw how terrible Chris Davis was before they traded him to Baltimore, maybe a change of scenery for Arencibia will be a good thing.

malna
1 year 8 months ago

Change of scenery is exactly what one must be banking on.

Tyler Koller
1 year 8 months ago

Not saying i’m hoping he hits 50 home runs like Davis but if he can bat above .220 with 20+ home runs, ill take it!

Erik Wofford
1 year 8 months ago

When are the writers/commentators get it that the “Jetstream is gone” Do some research for Pete’s sake.

Runtime
1 year 8 months ago

I’m guessing something like 1/1.5 or 2/2.5?

He really doesn’t so much aside from hitting homeruns, strike out, and allow passed balls. It’s a shame, he was a great “team player” in Toronto.

Pike Parker
1 year 8 months ago

He also has terrible judgment in throwing out runners. He’ll try to throw out guys with whom he has no realistic chance to catch stealing, only to airmail the ball into center field or into the seats along the 3rd base line. In that way he’ll make the Rangers pitchers look better, erasing baserunners by turning them into unearned runs.

Shauntell
1 year 8 months ago

I think the safer move would have been to sign John Buck, he will actually take a walk or two whereas J.P. has already decided he won’t do that anymore at all in 2014:

link to fangraphs.com

This has the makings of a bad catching duo for a team that wants to contend…

Runtime
1 year 8 months ago

That’s what we wanted from him in Toronto

Stuart Brown
1 year 8 months ago

That’s what he will do, if you give him enough plate appearances. But he’ll have an OBP of .250 and be not good defensively behind the plate, so it’s not really worth it. He’s basically Yuniesky Betancourt, the catcher. Except Betancourt doesn’t strikeout 30% of the time and he doesn’t have as much power…and well, fine. It’s not a great comparison.

Tyler Koller
1 year 8 months ago

I think you mean Carlos Peña.

Stuart Brown
1 year 8 months ago

At this point in his career, that’s a pretty fair comparison. Pena always had the ability to walk, though, something Arencibia does not have. Maybe Miguel Olivo without the defense? Olivo himself isn’t that great, but he could throw people out at least.

Pike Parker
1 year 8 months ago

Nah, Pena draws walks. Arencibia is more like a poor man’s Jeff Francoeur the catcher, only terrible on defense.

JaysFan1996
1 year 8 months ago

blue jays fan only defense for his bad defense is ” he” one of the best catchers that frame balls into strikes” the counter argument is that he’s one of the best catchers who can also ” turn strikes into balls” so yes he is terrible defensively

Pike Parker
1 year 8 months ago

Sounds like you’re implying that Arencibia isn’t actually a guy. :)

Runtime
1 year 8 months ago

oh boy. If JPA was still a .215 hitter, he’d probably still be a Blue Jay.

Andy Todd
1 year 8 months ago

Saw this coming and honestly I’m really happy as a Rangers fan.

Rollie Fingerbangers
1 year 8 months ago

Nice backup depth piece. I think Jon Daniels needs to get one more.

Runtime
1 year 8 months ago

The JPA that exists, right now, this second… is a terrible terrible baseball player. He was at the bottom of the league (qualified hitters) in too many stats.

That being said, if he turns it around next year… great! He’ll be a great addition to the team.

Andy Todd
1 year 8 months ago

He’ll get the opportunity to work with Ivan Rodriguez at the Rangers Spring Training hopefully, I couldn’t think of any better catcher except for maybe Varitek to learn from

rangersfan23
1 year 8 months ago

Still a great ballpark for hitters

ChrisV
1 year 8 months ago

What if Arencibia can reproduce what he did in 2010 at AAA with the Jays after switching teams, much like Davis has done after being traded to Baltimore? If J.P. works out, it would be an genius move. If he doesn’t, the Rangers lose a relatively small amount of money and that is it. This is one of those low risk/high reward sort of signs. Gives catching depth at a low cost leaving more money on the table to sign a big FA like Choo. Smart move by the Rangers. Now there just needs to be an agreement.

Runtime
1 year 8 months ago

AAA in the PCL…

Ted
1 year 8 months ago

And in Las Vegas too… home of the Mike McCoy .881 OPS season amongst other absurdities.

Runtime
1 year 8 months ago

Bahahahahahaha

I wish that was a joke.

Ted
1 year 8 months ago

And in Las Vegas too… home of the Mike McCoy .881 OPS season amongst other absurdities.