Cardinals Nearing Extension With Matt Carpenter

11:50am: Carpenter's deal will be worth $50-55MM if completed, Rosenthal tweets.

11:40am: Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports that the extension, if completed, would buy out two free agent seasons (Twitter links). The two sides are "very close," says Rosenthal.

11:17am: The Cardinals and Carpenter are closing in on an extension of "significant length," sources tell Jon Heyman of CBS Sports. The deal is believed to buy out all three of his arbitration seasons and at least one free agent season, "and probably more than that," according to Heyman. 

12:06am: The Cardinals are talking with Matt Carpenter about a long-term contract extension, Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports.  Cards GM John Mozeliak confirmed that he had been in contact with Carpenter's agents at SSG, and though the general manager gave no hint as to whether or not a deal was close, Goold said that Carpenter left the club's Spring Training facility in the middle of Wednesday's game, "presumably to have a physical."

2013 was Carpenter's first full season as a Major Leaguer and he delivered in style, hitting .318/.392/.481 with 11 homers and leading the league in runs (126), doubles (55) and hits (199) while producing 7.0 fWAR and 6.6 rWAR.  He did all of this while playing primarily as a second baseman, a position Carpenter had never played as a professional before last year (he'll move back to third base this season).  This spectacular campaign earned Carpenter his first All-Star appearance, an NL Silver Slugger Award and a fourth-place finish in NL MVP voting.

Carpenter was also one of baseball's top bargains, as he did all that while still playing for around the league minimum.  He isn't eligible for arbitration until next winter and the Cards have him under team control through the 2017 season, and an extension would give St. Louis some cost-certainty through those three arb years.  Since Carpenter isn't eligible for free agency until his age-31 season is over, a multiyear pact would give him security now rather than risk missing his chance at a big contract if he's already seen as being on the decline once he hits the open market.  This isn't to say that Carpenter will be at a negotiating disadvantage, of course, as he's still coming off an elite season.


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81 Comments on "Cardinals Nearing Extension With Matt Carpenter"


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Dave
1 year 4 months ago

5 years, 40 million, with team option.

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Brian
1 year 4 months ago

Probably a good guess. Craig got 5/31 but he didn’t finish 4th in the MVP the year before he signed his.

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SocraticGadfly
1 year 4 months ago

Per my comment above, Carp’s a plus defender, and at a defensively more important position. 6/$55 isn’t unreasonable for either side.

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Tim
1 year 4 months ago

Watching this guy develop even further is going to be a treat. I wonder if those doubles are going to translate into round-trippers eventually? Either way, what a bat!

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Ferrariman
1 year 4 months ago

i doubt it. I love carpenter but development isn’t really going to happen. He cracked the majors late and was considered a finish product when he got here. He’s like 27 already. We should expect an average of .290/.380/.475 throughout the life of this deal. Very good deal.

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Comfy_Wastelander
1 year 4 months ago

I agree. Expecting a 28 year old to improve isn’t fair. What did Billy Beane say? Something like “By the time you’re 27, you are what you are.”

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Lionel Bossman Craft
1 year 4 months ago

As Cliff Lee rolls his eyes.

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Comfy_Wastelander
1 year 4 months ago

Personally, I’d have gone with Jose Batista – hitters to hitters and apples to apples.

There’s always the chance that a player will defy the odds. Nothing is impossible and I believe I can fly and all that. It’s just very very unlikely that Matt Carpenter is going to have a eureka moment and outperform last season over and over again. The odds are much better that he is at his best right now and that he will steadily decline through his thirties like most every hitter ever.

Unless he starts taking magic pills, but they test for most of those now.

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burnboll
1 year 4 months ago

In some areas, like walks, carpenter might actually improve.

But I totally agrees with your assessment of him already peaking.

The total value of him will be in some regression.

Although, I think his defensive value will improve slightly from moving to third.

Not disagreeing with you, just pointing out that some aspects are likely to improve a little.

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burnboll
1 year 4 months ago

That sounds like Ruben amaro wishful thinking, no offense. I think a realistic expectation would be to see carp regress into a 3-4 war player. That’s still very very good. And any team would be fine with that production.

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Jeffy25
1 year 4 months ago

Buy out his prime, get an option, and he’ll be able to maintain his production somewhat (those that complain of his babip, look at his contact rates and plate coverage)

This is the next market efficiency. College guys that can be developed, and never get expensive because their first six years and first couple years of free agency are their peaks.

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Teufelshunde4
1 year 4 months ago

Id say 5/25 or 5/30 for Carp… I just keep hoping the Cards stay ahead of the curve in drafting and developing late round talents.. It has really helped propel the current run of contending.

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Jeffy25
1 year 4 months ago

Buy out his prime, get an option, and he’ll be able to maintain his production somewhat (those that complain of his babip, look at his contact rates and plate coverage)

This is the next market efficiency. College guys that can be developed, and never get expensive because their first six years and first couple years of free agency are their peaks.

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Homeruntrot
1 year 4 months ago

Pay that man his money……….