Jose Iglesias Expected To Miss Most Of 2014

MONDAY: Iglesias tells reporters, including MLB.com's Jason Beck, that he has been diagnosed with stress fractures in each shin, but he believes he can play at some point this season (Twitter links). Beck tweets that Iglesias will see a specialist tomorrow, which will give Detroit a better idea on his timeframe for a return.

MLB Network Radio's Jim Duquette first reported (via Twitter) that Iglesias' injury had worsened from shin spints to stress fractures earlier this morning.

SUNDAY, 1:09pm: Iglesias will need "extended rehab" for months and possibly the entire season, a source with knowledge of the injury tells the Boston Globe's Nick Cafardo (via Twitter). Meanwhile, Red Sox manager John Farrell told reporters, including Sean McAdam of CSNNE.com, he feels for Iglesias, who played for him last year, but was "aware (the shins were an issue) to the extent we had to monitor. We had to get him off his feet because he felt some pain and soreness there."

11:22am: The Tigers are sending Iglesias for a third opinion, but GM Dave Dombrowski says that the shortstop will definitely start the year on the DL, reports Tom Gage of the Detroit News (Twitter links). Initially, at least, the team will look to fill in for Iglesias internally, said Dombrowski.

SATURDAY: Tigers shortstop Jose Iglesias will miss most of the 2014 season with a shin injury, Jim Bowden of ESPN tweets, citing a player close to Iglesias. The injury has fueled speculation that the Tigers will now pursue Stephen Drew, Bowden notes.

Iglesias hit just .259/.306/.348 for the Tigers in 46 games after arriving in a trade with Boston in 2013, but is widely regarded as one of the game's top defensive shortstops. The Tigers were relying on Iglesias to serve as the cog in a more defense-oriented infield, so replacing him at this point in the offseason will be a challenge. Drew likely represents the simplest option for doing so.

Drew, 31, hit .253/.333/.443 with typically strong defense at short for the World Champion Red Sox in 2013, but his 124 games played was his highest total since 2010. The Scott Boras client managed just 79 games in 2012 and 86 games in 2011. That fragility is likely one major factor in his continued availability. Another, of course, is the draft pick compensation Drew is tied to after declining a qualifying offer from the Red Sox. If the Tigers do sign him, they'll lose what is currently the 23rd pick in the 2014 draft. Forfeiting that pick could be a tough pill for Detroit to swallow. GM Dave Dombrowski has managed to avoid doing so thus far this offseason, with his major acquisition, second baseman Ian Kinsler, coming via trade rather than free agency.

However, Detroit ultimately has few alternatives if the goal is replacing Iglesias with an impact player. Indeed, this situation — team with playoff aspirations loses middle infielder to injury late in Spring Training — seems to be precisely what Boras has waited for.

Mariners infielder Nick Franklin is another possibility. The 23-year-old's name has appeared frequently in trade rumors since the Robinson Cano signing, and as the owner of less than a year of service time, he'd pair with third baseman Nick Castellanos to give the Tigers two talented, cost-controlled infielders. On the other hand, Dombrowski may be hesistant to hand two starting infield jobs to unproven players in a season in which the Tigers expect to contend for a championship.


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297 Comments on "Jose Iglesias Expected To Miss Most Of 2014"


Adam Bomb
1 year 5 months ago

Finally this whole Drew dilemma will be over with.

Puig Power
1 year 5 months ago

Baseball is the real loser here. Going to miss watching him.

Adam Bomb
1 year 5 months ago

You’re right, Iglesias is a tremendous defensive shortstop.

Adam Bomb
1 year 5 months ago

I’m still kinda bummed Boston got rid of him.

BoSoXaddict
1 year 5 months ago

Tough to quantify Peavy’s impact vs. the loss of Iglesias, but when you win a championship (and have Xander Bogaerts) those quantifications tend to not matter as much..

Bob Bunker
1 year 5 months ago

The way I look at it, the Red Sox would have won the division with or without doing that trade and Peavy wasn’t a difference maker in the playoffs so I think the championship could have been won without the trade. However, there is no way of knowing.

What we do know is it would be much better to have a defensive stud long term at SS and Bogaerts at 3B on cheap contracts than Bogaerts moving around SS/3B and Middlebrooks hacking away and playing poor D.

BoSoXaddict
1 year 5 months ago

“What we do know is it would be much better to have a defensive stud long term at SS and Bogaerts at 3B on cheap contracts than Bogaerts moving around SS/3B and Middlebrooks hacking away and playing poor D.”

Well, that’s obviously a heavily subjective opinion that makes assumptions I don’t necessarily agree with about both Middlebrooks and XB. Coming on the heels of losing Drew, the lack of proven defense on the left side of the infield is bound to look extra glaring..but it all remains to be seen. You’re also forgetting about Marerro who could very well end up as a long-term defensive stud at SS should XB be moved to 3B and Middlebrooks traded/benched/moved to 1st sometime in the future..

jordan
1 year 5 months ago

and it will ramp right back up again (if drew is signed for two+ years) with the drew vs Iggy debate (see sox)

EightMileCats
1 year 5 months ago

I don’t think Detroit signs him. They weren’t expecting much offense from Iggy anyway. Defensive minded ss can be found in system from Suarez or Perez

JacksTigers
1 year 5 months ago

Iggy can hit .250. Perez will struggle to hit .200 and Suarez May not hit that much. I fully expect Drew to be a Tiger.

Hugh Langin
1 year 5 months ago

Drew will give you defense and offense.

Haewon Kim
1 year 5 months ago

hitting .250 and 13HRs hitting from the left side in Fenway is offense? Ummmm

Metsfan93
1 year 5 months ago

They were expecting an average-or-better overall player, which Suarez and Perez are not. Stephen Drew on a two- or one- year term could be a good fit. This is like V-Mart/Prince all over again.

Karkat
1 year 5 months ago

Stephen Drew is also a really good defensive shortstop.

kcstengelSr
1 year 5 months ago

I think Detroit passes on Drew and saves money for some Scherzer extension. The Tigers will watch the waiver wire over the next couple of weeks.

Michael
1 year 5 months ago

If Boras doesn’t want Drew signing for one year, how’s he going to feel about Drew signing for one year and playing half of it? Once Iggy comes back, Drew would sit. I don’t see it.

Adam Bomb
1 year 5 months ago

I just don’t want him back in Boston, so it’s mostly wishful thinking ha.

Metsfan93
1 year 5 months ago

When Iglesias comes back, Drew could be traded- and thus avoid a qualifying offer- or, if Castellanos stumbles, which I’m sure Boras would pitch as a distinct possibility, then Detroit can play Iggy at third sometimes like Boston did last year.. Worst case scenario, Boras would pitch Castellanos, who has already been groomed for leftfield pre-Fielder trade, could split time with Dirks there and split time with Iggy at third as Iglesias rehabs from injury and is eased back onto the field, and Iglesias can also spot start Drew when Drew needs rest. I’m not saying these are realistic things, for the record, just trying to pitch the idea from Boras’ point of view. He can work around playing time. Stephen Drew improves the Detroit Tigers and the Detroit Tigers now have a need and, presumably, the financial flexibility to fill this need. They are a team in an advantageous position on the win curve that kind of squandered some of their promise as a team via the Fister trade. They need every win possible and this gives them an opening- worry about good problems when they arise later on.

On the flip side, freeing up that 20~ MM in their Fister salary dump makes me seriously question if Detroit *does* have the financial flexibility to make this trade happen.

Vegandork
1 year 5 months ago

I don’t know. Drew only makes sense from the standpoint that Detroit needs someone for this year, possibly only part of the season. Nowhere has Drew indicated a desire to not (crazily) proclaim 3 years minimum for a contract. Detroit doesn’t need an aging defense only stopgap shortstop for 3 years. If Drew would be willing to go on a one year deal, this would be a no brainer. But given comments from his camp, I think a trade is more likely for Detroit.

Booker Smith
1 year 5 months ago

Terrible news for Detroit. Wonder if they’ll be able to get Drew on a one year deal, or they’ll fall victim to Boras. Drew on a one year deal has value, but anything more than that would be unadvised.

Adam Bomb
1 year 5 months ago

Boras would test the market on a chewed up pencil.

EightMileCats
1 year 5 months ago

From shin splints?
I realize it’s a stress reaction, but all the talk has been that he’d only mmiss a couple weeks of April. What happened?

pft2
1 year 5 months ago

Its a stress fracture which can take as long to heal as a complete fracture. Playing on it risks a complete fracture, like Jeter did when he broke his ankle.
SS is a physically demanding position, you can’t play on it and expect it heals on its own. He will be on the DL for at least 2 months and then it will take a month to get in playing shape

pft2
1 year 5 months ago

Its a stress fracture which can take as long to heal as a complete fracture. Playing on it risks a complete fracture, like Jeter did when he broke his ankle.
SS is a physically demanding position, you can’t play on it and expect it heals on its own. He will be on the DL for at least 2 months and then it will take a month to get in playing shape

jammin502
1 year 5 months ago

Darwin Barney and Nate Schierholtz to the Tigers for?

EightMileCats
1 year 5 months ago

No thanks….
Barney doesn’t provide anything we can’t get from one of our glove first prospects. Schierholtz only helps til the end of May when Dirks should be back. Even the time without Dirks only projects the team to lose about 1 win.

jammin502
1 year 5 months ago

Barney is one of the best gloves out there and can easily move to second or a utility role when Iggy comes back.

EightMileCats
1 year 5 months ago

We have Ian Kinsler to play 2b for the next 3-4 years and we just traded away one of the top 25 pitchers in the MLB(according to stats over the past 3 years) for a prospect, a reliever, and an INFIELD UTILITY player.

We have no need for Darwin Barney

jammin502
1 year 5 months ago

Depends how much offense they want from the shortstop position. If they want a great glove and someone that can be that be a very nice utility player, a leader, and a reasonable salary, then that is Barney.

EightMileCats
1 year 5 months ago

We already have most of that covered in our internal options. (Glove, Utility player, reasonable salary). Leadership comes from other areas on this team, but it’s already provided.
No reason to part with prospects for a non upgrade

MLB416
1 year 5 months ago

Munenori Kawasaki

Danny
1 year 5 months ago

Ruben Tejada for Miguel Cabrera. Who says no?

DieHardMsFan
1 year 5 months ago

Wilpon’s deem Cabrera too expensive. Hang up phone.

Danny
1 year 5 months ago

Haha!

paqza
1 year 5 months ago

Wilpon’s what deems Cabrera too expensive? Apostrophe usage ftl…

johnsilver
1 year 5 months ago

I agree on Barney. He barely is worth his 2.3m salary for the glove since he doesn’t hit at all. Career .628OPS player. They should be able to get him for little to nothing.

Many had him as a non tender candidate this past winter and he will be a non tender this next off season due a raise. Just offer the Cubs the slightest of marginal prospects.

Alex
1 year 5 months ago

If the Tigers sign Drew, more proof that all it takes is an injury. (Braves, Santana)

Troy
1 year 5 months ago

I really hope Det does not sign Drew.

David Galvan
1 year 5 months ago

he is not worth the draft pick

David Galvan
1 year 5 months ago

he is not worth the draft pick

EightMileCats
1 year 5 months ago

Any sane person and likely 75% of insane people.

EightMileCats
1 year 5 months ago

I just don’t want to lose that draft pick… our farm is bad enough as is.

Not to mention, Drew is no Iggy with a glove. Sure, he may hit .270ish… but I just gotta believe there are better options out there

Techster64
1 year 5 months ago

What would those options be for a team expecting to be in a World Series?

EightMileCats
1 year 5 months ago

Perez can handle fielding as well as needed and should hit somewhere in the .230-.250 range. Close enough in my opinion

JacksTigers
1 year 5 months ago

Believing that Hernan Perez can hit .230-.250 throughout most of a season is unveils ably optimistic.
.200 is closer to reality in the majors.

bobbleheadguru
1 year 5 months ago

That is terrible news!

Boras will be asking too much for Drew. Keep the draft pick and try to stay afloat with the young guys…. and there is always someone cut that you do not expect.

Drew fits only if there is a one year deal. I don’t think that is happening with Boras.

Hugh Langin
1 year 5 months ago

Considering where Drew was to begin with, he may a one year deal as long as it is guaranteed he won’t get a Q.O. next year, which I believe if he signs after opening day will happen. And opening day is technically March 22nd in Australia.

BoSoXaddict
1 year 5 months ago

No, he would be need to be signed after June 1st to be guaranteed of not being attached to draft-pick compensation..not opening day.

Metsfan93
1 year 5 months ago

That’s not what Hugh said. He said getting a QO, not ridding his existing draft pick compensation tag. You need to be on the team for the entire season to get a qualifying offer so, supposedly, once opening day hits, Drew is safe to sign a one-year deal and not find himself in this exact same QO-mess next offseason.

BoSoXaddict
1 year 5 months ago

Ahh. So, in other words, if a team signs him after opening day but before June 1st they will still forfeit a draft pick but will be unable to offer him a QO? If that is the case, then it doesn’t seem like there’s a chance of that happening.

Metsfan93
1 year 5 months ago

That’s what, I think, Ken Rosenthal was reporting, yeah. After June 1st a one year deal (which would be pointless at that point, IMO due to loss of salary for missing a third of the season) would both not require the signing team to surrender a draft pick (since the draft is done) and not allow them to offer a QO.

Metsfan93
1 year 5 months ago

I hope Drew signs in Detroit somehow. I like Stephen Drew and think he’d do well there. Everyone’s a winner in this case, except Iglesias obviously. It does stink that Iggy is gonna miss most of the season, but hopefully this heals and doesn’t affect his long-term outlook much.

TorturedMetsFan
1 year 5 months ago

Boras is going to win again and get drew a multi year deal or at least 1-14 from detroit

pft2
1 year 5 months ago

Boras is smart and patient. It remains to be seen if the Tigers sign Drew, but it seems to be a match made for both at 1/14

Jerry Mandering
1 year 5 months ago

Drew’s actually an upgrade both offensively and defensively. Will cost the close to 10 mil and the 23rd pick but the Tigers can afford it and they’re built to win now.

Metsfan93
1 year 5 months ago

If Drew were willing to accept one year and less than what he turned down with Boston, he’d be signed by now.

Jerry Mandering
1 year 5 months ago

You’re right, forgot the QO was so high. Could still see a 1 yr/14 mil type deal. Just because it’s the Tigers.

Jerry Mandering
1 year 5 months ago

You’re right, forgot the QO was so high. Could still see a 1 yr/14 mil type deal. Just because it’s the Tigers.

pft2
1 year 5 months ago

He is reluctant to take 1 year to play a position other than SS, or play SS for a losing team like the Mets. In Boston he had Boegarts waiting to take his spot so would be in danger of being a bench player. However, he could take a Santana like deal for 1 year to play SS with a playoff contender. Even when Iglesias came back, the Tigers likely make the same choice as Boston did last year and keep Drew at SS.

As a LH bat who crushes RHP’ers, Drew complements the Tigers lineup quite well.

Metsfan93
1 year 5 months ago

He has Scott Boras as an agent. I doubt he settles for less than 14.1 MM guaranteed money unless it’s really his wish and he overrules Boras. Boras himself wouldn’t concede defeat.

bobbleheadguru
1 year 5 months ago

Drew is not an upgrade defensively.

Tigers72
1 year 5 months ago

Perez should be able to hit 250 with plenty of speed. That’s all were getting with Iggy and we have Lombo who should hit 270 with a little power and speed and if he gets a full season 260 12 Hr and 20 SB is not out of range. There is also Saurez but we shouldn’t bring him up already. We don’t need Drew.

1 year 5 months ago

Having watched Lombo a good bit with the Nats, I have to say that sounds quite optimistic. Line drives, smart baserunning, solid d at second and third, sure. In my opinion, he lacks the power for 12 bombs, the wheels for 20 sb (uncles you’re willing to live with 12 cs), and the range/hands/arm to play an avg short.

I could be wrong – a scout I am not – but I’d be surprised if he did any of those things if given a full year at short.

More importantly, it really is disappointing we will miss out on Iglesias, whose play on that barehand play up the middle last year was the most mesmerizing I’ve ever seen.

As for the possibility of signing Drew, I wonder if he wouldn’t slide over to third (or second, with Kinsker going to third) upon Iglesias’s return, with Castellanos shifting to left. Long-term, with Hunter set for FA, could make sense to have Drew for more than one year for the same scenario.

EightMileCats
1 year 5 months ago

The LF experiment didn’t go to well from what I understand. Truth be told, he’s not going to be great defensively anywhere… 3b might be the best spot for him.

Metsfan93
1 year 5 months ago

You’re talking about Castellanos?

EightMileCats
1 year 5 months ago

Correct. He’s a subpar defender.

1 year 5 months ago

He just isn’t that athletic (relatively speaking). Night and day between him and Espinosa at second, I thought. I did find him easier on the eyes in left field than Morse and Moore, for what that’s worth (not much). I think he’s at least passable and maybe could be avg out there defensively.

But even if he can play average corner OF defense, you don’t want him to spend a lot of time there b/c the bat just doesn’t play. His value is in his versatility and theoretically solid consistency. He is pretty reliably okay, in large part for the same reasons he made the bigs with limited tools – he seems to work hard, pay attention to details, and hustle.

I like and appreciate him, but I’m not surprised Rizzo was willing to deal him. Even the Nats fans who wanted him to get a chance at the the everyday 2B job – the wonderfully nicknamed ‘Lombo Lobby’ – probably didn’t expect 12 HR/20 SB.

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start_wearing_purple
1 year 5 months ago

Disappointing. He’s got one of the best gloves I’ve seen and makes the toughest plays look routine.

But if the Tigers want a replacement then Drew is a great one. He’s what a shortstop should be, a solid defender.

Riaaaaaa
1 year 5 months ago

I wonder if the Mets will stop pretending they don’t want Drew when they find out another team might be vying for his services. I think they were hesitant because they wanted to get him for as cheap as possible.

Cobby_Box
1 year 5 months ago

I legitimately don’t think they want him. 1 year plugins aren’t super enticing to drop a pick and a chunk of cash on for a team with no designs on contending. With or without Drew they’re in 4th or 5th place, without him they have another pick and their 14 million cash.

So I guess you’ve gotta ask, is he worth ~22million (valuing that pick + the salary) in ticket and merchandise sales? Probably not. Good player, maybe not so good investment unless they can get him on a discount at multiple years.

Maybe the balance changes if they had Harvey this year, that guy really is special.

Riaaaaaa
1 year 5 months ago

Yes, Harvey isn’t going to be playing this year for the Mets but they have Colon. I don’t see why the Mets feel as though they should just throw away the season just because their ace isn’t going to be there. Colon in the NL (or in that division, specifically) can be an ace or #2 pitcher and IMO the Mets rotation is pretty strong. The Mets are only a few pieces away from contending which is why I’m a bit confused on why they haven’t fixed the holes on their team this offseason. They are a SS, and a few bullpen pieces away from contending.

Teufelshunde4
1 year 5 months ago

Outside of Wright the Mets position players are not good. Mets are more than just a few pieces away from contending. they got some great young pitching nearly there. Mets should stay away from Drew..

If I was Drew I would wait until Opening Day to sign to prevent another QO. Drew would have a team IF Boras wasnt his agent IMO.. Boras is so intent on getting his early to mid 30’s good but not great players long term high AAV deals. I can appreciate the dedication by Boras to his clients. But the landscape has shifted and Boras must adapt.. I dont see teams giving up the QO system so easily.. It saves them from overspending on FA.. Every owner loves that..

Riaaaaaa
1 year 5 months ago

Wright and Lagares are both all-star type players. They have a bunch of average-above average guys on their team but they can still be competitive if they add a shortstop and a few bullpen pieces. Boras probably did play a role in the decision-making process but it all comes down to what the client wants. Drew had a QO and he also had a multi-year deal from the Yankees. He turned them both down. He will probably take anything he can get at this point

Metsfan93
1 year 5 months ago

Calling Lagares an “all-star type player” after one small sample size season is a bit of a stretch. He has a lot of work to do offensively and while the stats and eye test line up that he’s a good fielder, I’m curious to see how he does when the league adjusts to his status as a predator for runners on the basepaths. They’ll stop running. While that might sound optimal, Lagares isn’t letting them advance anyway. Surefire first-to-thirds, first-to-homes, second-to-homes, and sacrifice-flies are still going to happen, but in the cases where last year Lagares was gunning them down, it’s likely those runners won’t be turned into outs, severely bringing down his value. Fangraphs rated his arm as the best arm of their 2002-present era, and once that’s regressed significantly (from, say, +16 or whatever it was at, to +6) and you factor in any defensive regression from position, etc. he’s really going to need an offensive improvement to remain a 4-win talent. I don’t see it happening. I think he’ll be above-average, somewhere around 2.5 wins.

Metsfan93
1 year 5 months ago

There is no way the Mets’ third rounder is worth ~8 million in value… they have a protected first and surrendered their second for Grandy.

kungfucampby
1 year 5 months ago

Man, the Tigers will never have a draft pick, will they?

pft2
1 year 5 months ago

They can give Drew a QO and get one if he does not accept it.

Mike1L
1 year 5 months ago

They shouldn’t because he may take them up on it, after this year’s experience. $30M for two years of Drew is an enormous amount of money to pay, plus sitting Iglesias when he’s healthy.

pft2
1 year 5 months ago

They can give Drew a QO and get one if he does not accept it.

EightMileCats
1 year 5 months ago

Wonder what it’d take to pry Nick Franklin and Charlie Furbush from the Ms… Would rather do that than take Drew.
Tigers could use more bp help anyway

Guest
1 year 5 months ago

Would Austin Jackson be on the table?

EightMileCats
1 year 5 months ago

No… He’s a Tigers regular and they plan to compete. Be looking at pitching prospects (guys like Robbie Ray and Jake Thompson) and OF prospects (Like Moya, Fields, Collins)

Guest
1 year 5 months ago

M’s want help now, right handed bats, outfielders. Be surprised to see them take prospects at this point

Metsfan93
1 year 5 months ago

If Austin Jackson were on the table, I would guess it’d take more. I don’t see Franklin as *that* good of a value going forward.

Evan
1 year 5 months ago

Yeah, that is exactly what I would do. I would think it would take something like a pitching prospect(Drew Verhagen?) and a catching prospect(James Mccann?)

EightMileCats
1 year 5 months ago

I think it takes more than that. Probably quite a bit more

Seamaholic
1 year 5 months ago

Not even in the vicinity of being in the neighborhood of being close. Tigers have no one in the minors the M’s would take for Franklin alone, let alone him and Furbush.

Guest
1 year 5 months ago

And why would the Tigers want Franklin who’s greatest selling point is that he’s under team contract for yeeeears…. Tigers need a short-medium term fix, not a long term solution. Drew is probably the only option.

The_Unnatural
1 year 5 months ago

Ask the guy who suggested it.

The_Unnatural
1 year 5 months ago

If there’s two things the M’s have plenty of, it’s pitching and catching prospects. They want to contend ASAP, prospect don’t help in that regard.

Haewon Kim
1 year 5 months ago

The alternative is Drew while losing a first round pick and 10M+ per year so we’ll take couple of those top prospects for the 2 F’s.

Haewon Kim
1 year 5 months ago

The alternative is Drew while losing a first round pick and 10M+ per year so we’ll take couple of those top prospects for the 2 F’s.

bobbleheadguru
1 year 5 months ago

Hopefully, they do not panic. Put Perez in there and see if he can handle it. Lombardozzi might be able to be serviceable there. At least we know that the #9 position in the batting order is locked up.

David Galvan
1 year 5 months ago

Maybe they can trade with Padres for Alexi Amarista.It would save Detriot millions and would only cost them a prospect.

EightMileCats
1 year 5 months ago

He doesn’t really seem like he’d be much(if any)of an upgrade over Perez or Lombardozzi. OBP under .300

David Galvan
1 year 5 months ago

He is decent.Wont get to play much in SD.

Zachary Eick
1 year 5 months ago

time to suit up… OMAR VIZQUEL!