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On what planet does Shields slot behind Lester?
Jeff Todd
Possibly this one, where he’s two years younger and 2014 has not yet happened.
John Cate
One where Lester gets to pitch half his games in Tropicana Field and then Kauffman Stadium, and Shields has to pitch half of his in Fenway Park. You’d be amazed at how much that might change the raw numbers of both men.
johnsilver
He was also skipped at fenway park for a time for struggles by Maddon.
rossington
Great piece.
Dawson Carlson
Was the part in the linked article about Halladay having a $20MM vesting option in 2014 wrong or … ? I thought he was a free agent after last year. Yes I know he retired.
Dawson Carlson
nvm I just read “option vests with 225 IP in 2013, 415 IP in 2012-2013 and player not on DL at end of 2013”
AJ Lorrigan
I have a feeling you guys put more research and effort into these deals than GM’s or agents do.
jimfetterolf
Another factor is that teams seem to be be shifting from paying veterans for past performance to paying young stars for the future. For KC, the question is whether to buy Shields for say a 3/60 or extend Hosmer, maybe Ventura, Duffy, Aoki, and or Cain for similar total AAVs?
MooreLongo
35m/3 with Tampa Bay. If Price go; The right to dream 🙂
Mikenmn
Jeff, this is a really interesting and thoughtful piece. The only question I would have about it is whether an emergent need (such as a TJ injury to a top starter on a contending team) could push Price’s value up.
Jeff Todd
Thanks. I assume you mean Shields?
Yeah, any change in demand can have a huge impact. Look at the role of the Victor Martinez injury in changing Prince Fielder’s market. In this case, it’s impossible to predict how things could play out without full context, and there are other considerations (in particular, alternative supply: other fee agents and trade targets … don’t forget, Samardzija and Price are very plausible candidates in the next year, and other guys will potentially become available as well.)
Even then, though, you need to have multiple teams willing to overpay from a value perspective who will bid against one another. On the whole, your scenario would probably fall under the ‘massive jolt to the market’ heading that I mention in the post.
Mikenmn
Thanks for the response (and I meant Shields.) I suppose that a higher AAV shorter term might work for a contending team, and still give Shields, if he retains his effectiveness, a chance to get a Kuroda-like deal afterwards. One factor that could come into play is whether more teams, with the huge TV money coming in, would actually get closer to the luxury tax threshold. For those, they might prefer longer with a lower AAV.
publius varrus
Shields to the Jays for 6/150. While the ink’s drying, AA will say that he’s the pitcher he’s wanted all along and to disregard any prior comments about term and money. lol
Tigers72
You think Sheilds at the age of 34 is worth 25 mil a year for six years?
dc21892
You couldn’t tell he was being sarcastic?
rundmc1981
Lowe was 35 when ATL gave him a 4-year deal…?! Guh!
John Cate
Old, but talented. LIkely to be good for a few more seasons, but not for the entire life of the contract he’s seeking and will likely get. Hmmm…
Welcome to the New York Yankees, Mr. Shields.
Maxxx Depth
a 10 year deal with the Angels.
Rally Weimaraner
The Angels don’t sign pitchers…
Maxxx Depth
I have to admit, That was a good one!
haplito
Sure talk about Dierkes a lot in this.
Jeff Todd
As I wrote, it was his idea and he contributed much of the thinking that went into the post, so I wanted to give credit where due.