Pirates Acquire Ike Davis From Mets

SATURDAY: The PTBNL in the deal is likely to be a 2013 draft pick, Heyman tweets. He also notes that that player, and not Thornton, is the "key piece." 2013 picks will not be eligible to be traded until the summer.

FRIDAY 6:22pm: The PTBNL is "fairly significant," tweets Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com. It is worth bearing in mind, as Adam Rubin of ESPNNewYork.com points out on Twitter, that 2013 draft picks still cannot technically be included in a deal.

5:45pm: A long-awaited deal has finally been struck, as the Mets officially dealt first baseman Ike Davis to the Pirates in exchange for minor league righty Zack Thornton and a player to be named later. A deal involving the struggling Davis has long been rumored, with the Pirates long said to be a likely trade partner. 

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For New York, the departure of Davis means that the club will move ahead with Lucas Duda as its regular first baseman, a role that he had taken on early in 2014. It also marks the end to an ultimately disappointing tenure in New York for the 27-year-old, left-handed hitting slugger. 

Meanwhile, the Pirates will take on the $3.14MM left on Davis's 2014 salary, and will control his rights via arbitration through 2016. Davis will presumably work in some form of platoon with the right-handed hitting Gaby Sanchez, who the club picked up after he too took steps backward after a promising early career.

Once a top-100 prospect, Davis raised expectations with a strong rookie campaign in 2010, in which he hit .264/.351/.440 with 19 home runs over 601 plate appearances at age 23. He was off to a hot start the next year, hitting .302/.383/.543, before he was sidelined with ankle issues. Before the 2012 season, Davis reportedly contracted valley fever, but nevertheless managed to hit 32 long balls in 584 trips to the dish. But his OBP dropped to .308 that year, and he has not returned to form since. Over 407 MLB plate appearances in 2013-14, Davis has just a .205/.329/.337 line with 10 home runs and a rising strikeout problem (he reached a career-high 26.8% K% last year.)

Thornton is a 25-year-old reliever who was working in Triple-A this season after reaching that level late last year for the first time. He did not appear on Baseball America's list of the Bucs' top prospects this year or last year. Pittsburgh acquired Thornton in exchange for Chris Resop in May of last year. According to Thornton's profile on PiratesProspects.com, he has been much more effective against same-handed hitters in his minor league career.

As the profile also notes, Thornton was left unprotected in this year's Rule 5 draft but was not selected even after a good showing in the Arizona Fall League. While he should provide depth to a struggling Mets pen, he seems a disappointing return for a player of Davis's former promise. It remains to be seen, of course, whether the PTBNL can bring additional value to the Mets.

Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com first tweeted that a deal was in the works. Chris Cotillo of MLBDailyDish.com (Twitter links) first reported that the deal was done, and that one or two prospects would head back to New York.


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137 Comments on "Pirates Acquire Ike Davis From Mets"


citizen
1 year 4 months ago

finally this trade has happened.

Dave Plavi
1 year 4 months ago

Wondering what 25 man move will be made

murph180
1 year 4 months ago

Chris Young being activated…

Tko11
Tko11
1 year 4 months ago

So basically an Ike Davis clone with less offensive upside and he plays the outfield…

Nigel
1 year 4 months ago

So basically Lucas Duda

oleosmirf
1 year 4 months ago

Hopefully, the Mets got something good.

JacobyWanKenobi
1 year 4 months ago

Now he’ll probably hit 30 hrs/yr, hit .275, and get traded to the Yankees in a few years and go back to being bad. It’s the circle of life.

Hurdled Again
1 year 4 months ago

I’ll take that. Big payday for my client and then we laugh our way to the sunset.

Tko11
Tko11
1 year 4 months ago

Ohh you’re quick.

Teufelshunde4
1 year 4 months ago

Not likely with the pitching staffs of Reds and Cards in same division. Thanks Mets for putting another hole in. Bucs lineup.

JW
1 year 4 months ago

Are those two pitching staffs really much deeper than the Nats and the Braves? I have my doubts.

jjs91
1 year 4 months ago

Passover truly is a time for freedom.

UK Tiger
UK Tiger
1 year 4 months ago

Fresh start, change of scenery, potential winning ballclub, maybe this will be the catalyst that gets Davis back to the form he showed when he first hit the majors.

He definately has enough talent to come back and rise again, most of it is mental with him i suspect.

If the Metsies got something good back it could be a good move all around.

mrsjohnmiltonrocks
1 year 4 months ago

Agreed. In fact, I read some comments where the Pirates coaching staff thought they could get him back on track, and that PNC Park was better suited to left handed bats.

There’s no guarantee though. He could just be the same old Ike Davis he’s been the last few years.

SteveF
1 year 4 months ago

Zach Thornton to Mets

JM
1 year 4 months ago

I hope the Mets just robbed the Pirates. Watch Davis breakout and hit 30 HR for the Bucs. Seems like every player that goes to Pitt that has had trouble being consistent, they fix. AJ Burnett 2 years ago, Liriano last year and Volquez in 2014. Ike will most likely platoon with Sanchez. IMHO, good deal for the Bucs.

$3513744
1 year 4 months ago

and this would be robbing the pirates?

PileOfSandwich
1 year 4 months ago

He said he hopes they robbed them.

$3513744
1 year 4 months ago

yes he did. now feel free to read the rest of it and see how that fits in context.

Todd Smith
1 year 4 months ago

He hopes the Mets got something really good for Davis, because he thinks Davis will break out with the Pirates. I’m confused by your confusion.

Bobo Johnstone
1 year 4 months ago

Reading isn’t for everybody.

Hurdled Again
1 year 4 months ago

And he’s going to be disappointed. Any deal involving my client is bound to hurt he who traded my client away. Watch: the Mets will slowly undergo curses leading to their imminent demise as a franchise because of this. And Ike will hit .400 with 74 homers and 197 RBI for the Pirates next season, with a Gold Glove. He is in the best shape of his life and ready to launch dingers over that Clemente Wall!

formerdraftpick
1 year 4 months ago

The Mets do not support any illegal activity like robbery, just ask Madoff.

slasher016
1 year 4 months ago

It’s worked for pitchers, but not hitters. Morneau and Ludwick to name a couple.

1 year 4 months ago

Pirates have a idifferent hitting coach. Ludwik was unhealthy here and morneau hit really well just not a lot of power.

1 year 4 months ago

Pirates have a idifferent hitting coach. Ludwik was unhealthy here and morneau hit really well just not a lot of power.

anon_coward
1 year 4 months ago

didn’t the pirates tell their pitchers to pitch almost all sinkers to get ground balls and rely on their shifts to get the outs?

looking at davis hit, i think he’s got a lot more problems than going to a new team can fix.

Tko11
Tko11
1 year 4 months ago

Jose Bautista was not fixed.

ColoredPaper
1 year 4 months ago

Jose Bautista was also from a different regime.

Wooosh.

ColoredPaper
1 year 4 months ago

And before anyone else decides to refute that, I am aware that Huntington was about a year into his tenure in Pittsburgh, but the coaching staff was different.

oleosmirf
1 year 4 months ago

Have to think the PTBNL is someone promising. Can’t imagine a 26 year old fringe-prospect reliever is the best piece coming back.

Tko11
Tko11
1 year 4 months ago

I would hope so but for now this looks like a great deal for Pittsburgh.

calamityfrancis
1 year 4 months ago

you all realize ike davis has been absolutely terrible for a couple years now, right? pittsburgh trading little to get him, but there’s a good reason for that.

Tko11
Tko11
1 year 4 months ago

Career .256/.357/.828 vs right handed pitching. Gaby Sanchez .300/.399/.900 vs left handed pitching. Quite the platoon. He was still valued highly by the Mets so they either gave in and gave him up for less than they wanted to or the Pirates actually gave someone of interest to the Mets (I doubt that guy is Thornton but who knows).

arthur3
1 year 4 months ago

I have to hope so. The Mets could have obtained Thornton in December during the Rule 5 draft for nothing (except for the $50000 acquisition cost)

oleosmirf
1 year 4 months ago

except they’d have to keep him on the 25 man roster all season in order to keep him when he probably needed more time in the minors.

AceRuby
1 year 4 months ago

Apparently the PTBNL is a 2013 draft pick so it looks like it will be a solid prospect coming back to the Mets.

DerekJeterDan
1 year 4 months ago

If Ike Davis finds his power swing in Pittsburgh, watch out.
Change of scenery move… excellent deal for the Pirates.

Mike
1 year 4 months ago

He still had his power swing in NY. He is capable of hitting the ball 475 feet. He is not capable of consistently hitting major league offspeed pitching.

Lee Foo Young
1 year 4 months ago

Mets could’ve had Thornton in the Rule V draft. Surprise Wang was taken and Thornton wasn’t. Gotta wonder who that PTBNL is.

Lefty_Orioles_Fan
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
1 year 4 months ago

From the looks of things, the Pirates didn’t give up all that much.
Yet, the Mets wanted Rodriguez from the O’s for him.
Hmm…
Hopefully, everyone got something and it works out for both teams.
How’s that for straddling the fence? =P

Lee Foo Young
1 year 4 months ago

well we don’t know who the PTBNL is, so, there’s that. Maybe it is someone on the 40 who needs to clear waivers, like Stolmy?

disgruntledreader
1 year 4 months ago

Nobody needs to clear waivers for a trade until after July 31.

JasonBoy
1 year 4 months ago

pretty low return for Ike Davis especially considering it’s someone who the pirates didn’t even protect

BeatEmBucs
1 year 4 months ago

Thornton and….Irwin/Cumpton?

DerekJeterDan
1 year 4 months ago

This is good for the Mets since it opens up 1st Base for Duda, Satin, Flores, and Murphy which at the same time opens up 2nd Base for Eric Young Jr which adds flexibility to the Outfield so that Chris Young, Granderson, and Lagares can also play. I like that one move opens the door for so much. That’s a strong way to utilize depth.

Tko11
Tko11
1 year 4 months ago

Young+Granderson+Lagares will hit for a combined average of? ~.235?

Rob Lucci
1 year 4 months ago

Where do you buy your crystal ball? Sears?

Tko11
Tko11
1 year 4 months ago

Nope, baseball reference actually.

davbee
1 year 4 months ago

Yes, maybe if you added Young, Granderson and Lagares’ averages they might total .260.

Tko11
Tko11
1 year 4 months ago

Average their averages if they hit around their career averages.

1 year 4 months ago

I think you’re putting in a little too much faith in Lagares. He has a career BA of .251 and I don’t believe his hot start of .314 this year. Personally I don’t count on any real production from the bat of someone with an OBP below .300

murph180
1 year 4 months ago

More like .260-.270 but yeah

FOmeOLS
1 year 4 months ago

I don’t know why the Orioles were so hot for this guy.
And now I feel for Ishikawa, who is homeless again.

letsgogiants
1 year 4 months ago

Even as a platoon partner, he still is below average. Growing up I watched him develop at the major league level. Honestly, his best role is being a good pinch hitter late in the game and late inning defensive replacement. I think he led the majors in 2010 with pinch hits. He can drive the count deep at times and is pretty solid defensively.

xxlive9xx
1 year 4 months ago

Typical Met’s move to trade for a guy they could of had in rule 5. Ugh…

brachialplexus
1 year 4 months ago

This is the same team that got a very promising bullpen arm (Vic Black) and a highly regarded SS prospect (Dilson Herrera) for 2 months of Marlon Byrd and John Buck. Btw, Herrera was a PTBNL in that deal

Paulie Corleone
1 year 4 months ago

Dilson Herrera has played exactly 4 career games at SS.

“Highly regarded SS prospect” is a pretty big stretch

brachialplexus
1 year 4 months ago

My fault: 2B prospect. Still highly regarded

Robb Birdman
1 year 4 months ago

and black was the PTBNL

calamityfrancis
1 year 4 months ago

except under more favourable terms

Ruben_Tomorrow
1 year 4 months ago

And somehow they see him as a better option than Mazzaro.

AceRuby
1 year 4 months ago

The second player in the deal is rumored to be a 2013 draft pick from the Pirates so this deal could actually look good for the Mets if its a solid prospect.

Mike Adamson
1 year 4 months ago

I’m guessing the second guy is nothing special either. The Mets just wanted to wash their hands of Davis. The Pirates will release Ishikawa and that will be that.

Larry Winer
1 year 4 months ago

A salary dump- Duda- 500k. Ike 3.1M. Now our payroll is 6M less than last year- gotta love our owners

Destry
1 year 4 months ago

Duda makes $1.9 Davis makes $3.5 and Duda has been the far superior player for a number of years now. Its not a salary dump, its a smart baseball move.

Dave Harrison
1 year 4 months ago

My guess is the PTBNL will be based on Davis’s production.