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Johnny Shoe
If not for Harper the Nationals would be unwatchable.
This off season will be an interesting one for them. If they want any shot of keeping Harper they have to let him be involved in choosing the next manager.
Mark 21
That is just crazy to even say that. You act like Harper is the gob of baseball and it centers around him. Got news for you. There are 39 other players on the team and other coaches that also matter. You need to leave the GM job up to the GM and owners as it is there money and expertise that you dont have.
thecoffinnail
Harper has gone on record praising Williams.. So, if they want to keep Harper happy why not just keep Williams? I am sure the Mets would appreciate it quite a bit..
homeparkdc
Yes, Harper praised Williams, but the praise was more descriptive of a personal batting coach than a team manager. Harper’s young, he’ll get over it.
willi
Sure let a 22 Year with and ego the Size of Grand Canyon choose the Manager, The Kid’s a Player not an evaluator of potential Managers , The Nat’s are Still going to lose him 2018 , Yankees are circling like Vultures.
Out of place Met fan
would not discount the Dodgers from that equation
johnsilver
Interesting offseason for the Nationls FA. None had a good season to speak of. Desmond, Fister may find prospects shocking.
Zimmerman will be interesting. I still see some team paying 5 and 100-120m for him.
National Anthem
That would be Zimmermann the pitcher you refer to, correct?
johnsilver
Since Ryan isn’t a FA and was talking about 2015 FA it’s kind of obvious, unless the Nat’s FO can find a way to get out of that deal they gave Ryan with 4/64m left and seen him on the field 150 games total the last 2y and not much production either in those games.
Maybe another guy the FO wants outta’ town?
jkunkle
The Nationals…we have (had) the players. We just didnt (dont) have the FO to match it.
Out of place Met fan
Didn’t the FO get those players?
jkunkle
Yeah, but also hired Matt Williams, traded for Papelbon. Gave a Scherzer a ridiculously stupid contract. Thats just a few examples.
start_wearing_purple
Except Scherzer lived up to his contract, in some ways he was actually better than his Cy Young year. He just got some of the worst run support of regular starters.
tuner49
When Scherzer left Detroit many were saying he was going to be in for a shock when the very good run support he got with the Tigers would disappear. He was a very good pitcher but won many games or got no decision,(rather than a loss) because of the run support.
jkunkle
I never said Scherzer wasnt great this year…but paying him absurd amounts long after his playing days are done will bite them
thecoffinnail
Ownership signed Scherzer.. They negotiated with Boras directly.. Rizzo had nothing to do with his signing..
jkunkle
I never said Rizzo did. Front office, I was including everyone
willi
Rizzo is a Water carrier for the Tribe owners , that’s all !
homeparkdc
Tribe?
National Anthem
Private joke (which none of us gets)?
chophoopla
as a brave fan, I am going to have to say “lawl, no” we have this guy, I think his name is shleby biller, he seemed to be pretty good this year but got zero runs of support
Out of place Met fan
We often hear “the sum is better then the parts” when teams out perform expectations (2014 Royals, 2015 Mets, every Giants team) maybe this is a case of the parts being better then the sum
gamemusic3 2
People who say the sum is better than the parts are just making excuses to explain why their judgment of a team was wrong.
Same as ‘chemistry’ and those who excessively use the ‘luck’ excuse.
wahoomaniac
Who fills out the 2016 rotation then? A free agent to go along with Scherzer, Strasburg, Gonzalez and Joe Ross?
homeparkdc
Maybe Tanner Roark. He won 15 games in 2014 and then moved to the bullpen when Scherzer was signed.
thecoffinnail
Agreed.. Roark deserves the first shot.. Cole should get a look as well and Giolito could be ready some time next year too.. Voth and Lopez aren’t too far away either.. The Nationals are pretty deep in pitching prospects..
Out of place Met fan
Roark, maybe a veteran on a minor league deal to bridge the gap until Gioloto forces his way up. Voth is another who will be ready sooner then later
Mr Pike
It should be Robbie Ray, but that ship sailed in the terrible trade for Fister.
stymeedone
The Tiger’s think it was a terrible trade also. At least the Nats got one great year out of Fister.
Mr Pike
When you say the Tigers you must mean you. The Tigers stood by the trade from the beginning. The bad Tiger Robbie Ray trade was giving 6 years of him up for Greene.
But,like all trade involving young players, I think we should reserve judgment for a few years.
One great year of Fister for $20M when they could have had Ray for 6 more years. They won the division and got bounced in the first round. They would have done that without Fister.
bobbleheadguru
Correct, Robbie Ray (and others) for Doug Fister was a deal that saved the Tigers at least $50MM, coming on the heels of giving up $30MM to Rangers in the Kinsler for Fielder trade.
Was it the best possible deal they could have made? None of us know how good Robbie Ray will be.
However, $50MM for Doug Fister (over a few years), even with NO PLAYERS back would still be a good deal for the Tigers because it made the Fielder/Kinsler deal palatable.