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Acuña Matata
and this is why you drink Brandy for colds
BoldyMinnesota
This is very unfortunate for him, but they have to suspend him. I’ve seen people saying he shouldn’t be suspended since its pretty obvious he didn’t do it to cheat, but he was still negligent and therefore deserved a suspension.
No Soup For Yu!
Never thought I’d see the day where the excuse “I have no idea how that got into my body” actually held up.
Justin Broja
Wasn’t that the same excuse collabello used
petrie000
yeah, he just refused to explain it in any detail
this may be the first time a player’s ever been willing to tell us by name what the ‘tainted substance’ was, instead of just nebulous ‘i dunno’ denials
BoldyMinnesota
I’m pretty sure mondesi just had to show that the substance was in the medicine, he didn’t have to prove that’s how it got into him. I’m not saying he took peds intentionally, but he technically didn’t prove how they entered his system
brandons-3
They probably match it up to other substances that were found in both the system and his body. Who knows, he could’ve taken it and taken the medication as a cover up. No need to speculate. He’s gone for 50 and won’t have the PED label on him, from the looks of it.
mrnatewalter
“No need to speculate. He’s gone for 50 and won’t have the PED label on him”
And if he used it to mask the PEDs, he could serve 80 and have a PED label. Thus the need to speculate, or at least beg the question.
Ray Ray
He’ll have the PED label on him no matter what. I think it foolish to have a reduced suspension, especially if he proved that it was in the medicine he took and it was his first offense. I get that people could take advantage of that, but it it better for 10 guilty parties to get off than one innocent party be punished. That is basically the motto of the US judicial system and it should be adhered to in all aspects of punishment in America.
Jeff Todd
Different incentive structures work for different situations. It’s worth delineating between 1) elements needed to support a punitive measure; and 2) the standard of proof as to those elements. As to the first, look into the concept of strict liability. As for the second, basically anything outside of the criminal realm requires far less than “beyond a reasonable doubt.”
marco1968
It WAS the motto of the US justice system. Not anymore
mrnatewalter
I’m not suggesting that Mondesi did this by any means, but couldn’t almost any Dominican player who gets dinged for PEDs just grab a bottle of Subrox-C and say, “see, it has clenbuterol in it, give me 50 games instead of 80!”?
Or perhaps the process of showing proof that he took that medication (although I’m curious as to how one could prove that).
Just a thought.
johnsilver
Basically just a rehashed excuse of anyone guilty of any crime performed, just a different flavor here.. Dude’s guilty, get over it.
mrnatewalter
I have no ties to the Royals, in fact, I actually can’t stand them or their fans.
I just asked a question. You can drop the hostility.
Ray Ray
You must have had relatives that lived in Salem in the 1600s.
McGlynn
Why would anyone take clen to play better. If anything, he’d play worse while on it than off of it.
petrie000
it’s a steroid that improves breathing performance
improved breathing efficiency means more oxygen to the blood during competition, which, long sciency story short, significantly improves endurance. It’s not a steroid commonly seen in team sports, but ‘endurance’ athletes have been known to take cough medication before competition for this very reason, which is why they wind up on PED lists
i buy Mondesi’s story and all, but yeah, it’s a banned substance for a reason
McGlynn
I did not know that. I had only known it as the weight loss drug that Brittany Spears took.
cxcx
A friend of mine orders clem from Moldova to help him cut basically as a hobbyist bodybuilder. If anything I would guess it and the other stuff he is doing would reduce his athletic performance if he still played sports, it just makes him look more cut, not performance enhancing at all.
marco1968
yeah the whole concept of what a “performance enhancing drug” is has gotten rather complicated. Anabolic Steroids are clearly “performance enhancing” ..in the mid term. A stimulant drug such as Ritalin , will only “enhance performance” over a few hours, and only if you have a condition that it treats (ADD)..Otherwise it is simply a recreational drug, an drug of abuse and THOSE kinds of drugs DO NOT “enhance performance” , they inhibit performance. There are also non scheduled, non regulated “supplements” on the list of “performance enhancing substances’ for which there is no medical, scientific data at all showing they do much of anything, especially to enhance performance
jimttu
Mlb is too strict
jd396
No it’s not
hozie007
Interesting article from a few years ago. Apparently, steroids are readily available and legal in the DR…….even if you don’t have a cold.
newsday.com/sports/baseball/in-dominican-you-buy-s…
TwinsVet
Lifetime ban for anyone who violates a strict paleo diet!
pghburgher
This seems a bit heavy handed. I would imagine that the get a sample show ppm levels. They should be able to extrapolate the dosage if its a cold level result come on MLB give the guy a break slap him on the wrist 10 games or a season long testing to see he doesn’t repeat it but 50 games for what you seem to have accepted was an accident your starting to act t like Roger Goodell is the Commissioner of MLB too.
mrnatewalter
Perhaps that’s what they did?
These guys are professionals and should be cautious about everything going into their body. What’s more, at least in Mondesi’s case, is that his dad had a lengthy MLB career. Jr should know better.
I am close to a couple of MLB players (both from Nebraska, so that narrows it down, somewhat) who have stated that they won’t even take a simple over-the-counter drug without consulting a team doctor first. While that might be excessive, it also helps to prevent anything from happening down the road.