Rule 5 can have positives but is mostly just a Graveyard full of prospects that didn’t pan out. Good for bad teams with no farm system (I.e. The angels)
Mike McLellan
Except that you can’t put them in your farm system……
tim815
Not until the next season.
mattdsmith
That’s why he said bad teams since they can afford to keep them in the majors and either take a chance for their prospect shine to return somewhat or for the selecting team to gain their rights.
bbgods
Makes more sense for only bottom 50% of teams (by W-L %) to be allowed to pick players and only top 50% of teams to lose players.
Right now, rebuilding teams often end up losing players, which seems to go against the spirit of the rule.
Jeff Todd
The purpose of the rule, mostly, is to push organizations to cycle players through their systems. Along with minor league free agency, limitations on optional assignments, etc, it prevents teams from just stashing guys forever without giving them a chance at the majors. Really, it’s a protection for players.
tim815
Correct.
In some cases, it will help a rebuilding team. Depending on the roster size in the upcoming CBA, which may not be agreed upon by the time 40 Man rosters are submitted before the Rule 5 Draft, some funny stuff might happen.
After all, the AL sides have a much easier time now keeping a Rule 5 choice. If the opportunity to hie a R5Guy on plain sight on the bench in both leagues becomes an option, teams you might not expect might poach talent, sit them for most of the season, then develop them for a season in Triple-A.
Or, maybe I’m wrong.
ducksnort69
The Rays FO kept Steve Geltz and a bunch of other awful relievers over Goeddel and Rickard. Not saying either outfielder is great, but definitely better than a myriad of terrible that filled(fills) their roster. Dumb.
baronbeard
Lets get you a job in the Rays front office! Mahtook had been a consistently better player than Goeddel during both their time in the organization. With a outfield that’s almost blocking anyone else from coming up, they made the decision to let Goeddel go. Which was actually smart considering they were throwing shit at the wall to see what stuck
tim815
Nobody seems to want to link roster size with the Rule 5 Draft.
If the roster size increases to 27, Rule 5 poachings might become far more attractive.
Jeff Todd
I haven’t seen enough clear suggestions that there will be an expansion of rosters to really address that directly, but certainly agree that it would make the R5 a much bigger part of the picture. It would open a lot of doors for underperforming teams to stash guys, and would allow all teams to take guys whose talent they like while using them in limited, specialized roles — fleet-footed runners, glove-first up-the-middle players, unrefined sluggers/power arms.
Of course, their own teams would also have added incentive to keep them, though it would increase the pressure on 40-man rosters and probably lead to more overall player movement. And the R5 element would be much more dynamic.
JFactor
Thanks for this
yankees500
Can you have some sort of post that shows all the players eligible for the rule 5 draft for each team?
crazy Jawa
Now what if they expand roster to 26 but that 26th man has to be a D5. Then the D5 draft would be big. Then if the guy shines he will be on the 25 man roster the next season. It if not then he will have to go back to the minors. Or the team will drop him right before the end of the season.
jd396
Biagini is currently my favorite baseball player’s name
calikid13
Bowman was the best of class with production last year.
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JDSchneck
Rule 5 can have positives but is mostly just a Graveyard full of prospects that didn’t pan out. Good for bad teams with no farm system (I.e. The angels)
Mike McLellan
Except that you can’t put them in your farm system……
tim815
Not until the next season.
mattdsmith
That’s why he said bad teams since they can afford to keep them in the majors and either take a chance for their prospect shine to return somewhat or for the selecting team to gain their rights.
bbgods
Makes more sense for only bottom 50% of teams (by W-L %) to be allowed to pick players and only top 50% of teams to lose players.
Right now, rebuilding teams often end up losing players, which seems to go against the spirit of the rule.
Jeff Todd
The purpose of the rule, mostly, is to push organizations to cycle players through their systems. Along with minor league free agency, limitations on optional assignments, etc, it prevents teams from just stashing guys forever without giving them a chance at the majors. Really, it’s a protection for players.
tim815
Correct.
In some cases, it will help a rebuilding team. Depending on the roster size in the upcoming CBA, which may not be agreed upon by the time 40 Man rosters are submitted before the Rule 5 Draft, some funny stuff might happen.
After all, the AL sides have a much easier time now keeping a Rule 5 choice. If the opportunity to hie a R5Guy on plain sight on the bench in both leagues becomes an option, teams you might not expect might poach talent, sit them for most of the season, then develop them for a season in Triple-A.
Or, maybe I’m wrong.
ducksnort69
The Rays FO kept Steve Geltz and a bunch of other awful relievers over Goeddel and Rickard. Not saying either outfielder is great, but definitely better than a myriad of terrible that filled(fills) their roster. Dumb.
baronbeard
Lets get you a job in the Rays front office! Mahtook had been a consistently better player than Goeddel during both their time in the organization. With a outfield that’s almost blocking anyone else from coming up, they made the decision to let Goeddel go. Which was actually smart considering they were throwing shit at the wall to see what stuck
tim815
Nobody seems to want to link roster size with the Rule 5 Draft.
If the roster size increases to 27, Rule 5 poachings might become far more attractive.
Jeff Todd
I haven’t seen enough clear suggestions that there will be an expansion of rosters to really address that directly, but certainly agree that it would make the R5 a much bigger part of the picture. It would open a lot of doors for underperforming teams to stash guys, and would allow all teams to take guys whose talent they like while using them in limited, specialized roles — fleet-footed runners, glove-first up-the-middle players, unrefined sluggers/power arms.
Of course, their own teams would also have added incentive to keep them, though it would increase the pressure on 40-man rosters and probably lead to more overall player movement. And the R5 element would be much more dynamic.
JFactor
Thanks for this
yankees500
Can you have some sort of post that shows all the players eligible for the rule 5 draft for each team?
crazy Jawa
Now what if they expand roster to 26 but that 26th man has to be a D5. Then the D5 draft would be big. Then if the guy shines he will be on the 25 man roster the next season. It if not then he will have to go back to the minors. Or the team will drop him right before the end of the season.
jd396
Biagini is currently my favorite baseball player’s name
calikid13
Bowman was the best of class with production last year.