The Diamondbacks have officially inked a contract with veteran outfielder Adam Jones. It’ll reportedly come with a $3MM guarantee on a one-year term.
The contract also contains $2MM in incentives. He’ll receive $250K upon reaching 250 plate appearances and every fifty thereafter, maxing out with 600 trips to the plate.
After 13 years with the Orioles, Jones’ first venture into the free agent market was a slow one, at least in terms of public reports. The Mets were known to have interest in Jones’ services, while the Orioles and Indians were involved in Jones’ market to at least some minor extent, albeit on seemingly a much more limited basis. MLB Network’s Jon Heyman (via Twitter) notes that Arizona had interest in Jones in a short-term contract earlier in the offseason, so it’s quite possible that other mystery teams made quiet overtures to Jones’ representatives at CAA Sports. Still, Jones had become something of a poster child for the difficulties faced by many veteran players (even a widely-respected figure like Jones) in the much quieter free agent marketplace of the last two offseasons.
Of course, it has been a while since Jones has exhibited the form that led to five All-Star appearances in his prime. The 33-year-old has only been roughly a league-average offensive player (103 OPS+, 101 wRC+) over the last three seasons, as Jones hit .277/.315/.440 with 70 homers over 1920 plate appearances. Jones’ center field defense also steeply declined — since the start of the 2016 season, Jones was last among all qualified center fielders in UZR/150 (-11.3), and second-last in Defensive Runs Saved (-40).
Interestingly, Jones now moves to a team that could still deploy him in center field on a semi-regular basis. With A.J. Pollock off to the Dodgers in free agency, the D’Backs were working out Ketel Marte as a potential center fielder, with the newly-signed Wilmer Flores available for the bulk of playing time at second base if Marte indeed shifted to the outfield. This could yet end up being Arizona’s preferred scenario, with Marte still seeing most of the center field action, with Jones available to play center on days when Marte is at second base. Jones could also spell left fielder David Peralta against some left-handed starters, given Peralta’s career-long struggles against southpaws. Arizona was in need of more outfield depth, as Jarrod Dyson could potentially miss Opening Day due to an oblique injury.
Fox Sports 1 analyst Dontrelle Willis (Twitter link) reported the signing, with ESPN.com’s Jeff Passan tweeting the money. USA Today’s Bob Nightengale (Twitter link) and Jon Heyman of MLB Network (Twitter link) had incentives details.
Too bad for Cleveland. Missed boat on filler for need.
the Indians mightve just sealed their fate. One MIN player breaking out and an injury or two to the CLE rotation and the Twins could be knocking on the door.
Minnesota does not have the starting pitching to compete with Cleveland. You are counting on a lot of ifs. What if the Indians have an young outfielder (Bauers, Mercado) breaks out to add to their pitching? What if Bradley Zimmer returns from injury and blossoms to match his first round and top 25 prospect promise. The ifs can go both ways making the gap even wider.
I’m really liking this Mercado kid. Quick bat, great speed, and solid defense. He hit another HR today, among his hits.
Mercado can ball. Indians don’t need AJ, not sure he would’ve been the vet for those young pups.
The guy can’t get on base. Unless MLB changes the rules to stealing home to dugout, he’s nothing more than a PR.
Do you mean to tell me that the Cardinals couldn’t afford $3 million for Adam Jones??? The Cardinals still can’t drive in runs. Fowler is awful. For that amount of money for Jones, They could afford to have Fowler sit on the bench. For that matter, Ozuna can sit by him.
Cleveland wants to find a reason to blow it up at the deadline and sell their pitchers. No other reason for their joke of an offseason.
What does the JD in your name stand for? Just Dumb?
Ya I’m actually a burner account for Antonetti and company.
I rest my case.
Keep deleting my posts Mark.
What rule did I break?
Against the rules to be harrassed, bullied, targeted?
Why delete MY posts???
I just lost alot of respect for the trade rumors staff today if that’s true. It just goes to show you they are guilty of cronyism.
They should just delete your account lol
Because, you start fights in the comments?
Xabial, it’s pretty well known you make comments to try and garner attention. Whether it’s because you seekattention, or otherwise, it’s pretty sad. No. It’s pathetic. Do yourself a favor and delete the Xabial account, start a new one, and just focus on the topics. Stop trolling.
Really could have played a good role in Cleveland. City would have loved him too but maybe he will hit bombs out west
Odd move since Marte is supposed to move to CF, so I guess Jones plays vs lefties with Peralta taking a seat against them?
Would’ve been nice to see him play for a contender this season.
And at last season’s trade deadline….
He has 10-5 rights. i think he vetoed a trade at the deadline last year
Yup he vetoed a trade to the Phillies
I am aware he vetoed the trade, thus my comment. Adam Jones has proven he just want to play baseball. Not a winner.
There are a lot more factors in the life of a baseball player than playing for the best team possible. I think Adam Jones probably then and now cared more about having the closest thing to a starting rose
It’s just like when players only go to the team that offers them the most money, even if it it is from a team that is terrible.
Arizona shouldn’t be too bad. They probably wont be better then 3rd, but its better then playing for the Orioles.
They will be bad, not sure why everyone thinks they will finish 3rd. They lost their two best position players and their 1st or 2nd best pitcher. They didn’t replace any of Goldy, Pollack, Corbin.
AZ was one of the best teams in baseball 4 out of 6 months last year and that included horrible seasons from Souza, Lamb and losing Walker to TJ… they are not going to be as bad as people think.
assuming they are healthy, Jones and Lamb will be almost as good as Pollack and Goldy were last year, and that’s not to mention Souza. Taijuan comes back from TJ at some point, Ray should be healthier, and they have other guys to fill some other holes. Yes they havent made many additions to replace the three, but, health wanst exactly on their side last year.
Lamb and Jones will not provide half the value pollock and Goldy did. I’ll guarantee that.
Pollock was cancer
What value did Pollock provide last year? Dude can’t stay healthy
2.5 WAR was his number. Jones offered 1.7 in 170 more Abs. Not to mention Goldy who is an annual 5+ Win player and Lamb can’t hit lefties. I feel pretty comfortable saying Goldy and Pollock are significant upgrades.
Dbacks will finish 3rd why you ask , because they have to be better than the pads and Giants and that not that hard too do
Adam Jones and Jake Lamb will be almost as good as Pollack and Paul Goldschmidt? Jones can’t play center fields at all anymore and is the very definition of a league-average bat. Even moving to the easier league he’s not putting up nearly the value Pollack provides. In Lamb’s best season he hit 248/357/487. In Goldschmidt’s worst season he hit 297/411/489. He’s been a top-5 MVP finisher 4 times. Jake Lamb is like, Justin Smoak without the defense. I don’t think the D-Backs are really counting on those guys to replace what they’ve lost – they’re probably a Greinke trade away from a full rebuild.
Jones healthy will provide more value then Pollack any normal year. (as in him missing half of it) The defensive metrics were abnormally against Jones last year, despite that he was about the same defender as in the past few years yet a had a remarkably lower dWAR. He also will not be playing only CF if Marte can anyway. Its also true that Lamb is not nearly as good as Goldy, but he will be healthier this year, and i believe Flores could be pretty solid in regular action. Im not going as far as saying he can spell Goldy, im saying he can at least partly cover for the loss with the help of the other additions and better health.
eh, he’ll probably be dealt to a contending team at the trade deadline, he’ll be fine
Just like last season, oh wait he vetoed it…contending doesn’t matter to him.
I think he was more worried with playing time than being with a contender. If a team like the Indians reach out at the deadline, and we all know they will need outfield help, I doubt Jones will veto the trade
He no longer has veto rights with his new team, unless they foolishly give him that clause.
Playing time? He stayed in Baltimore and clogged things because they wanted to see what the youngsters could do and he was just in the way.
What does that have to do with what they said? He likely thought he was more likely to continue starting in the OF regularly in Baltimore than on Philly.
Why? He clearly doesn’t care about winning.
source?
Vetoing trades to a contender as opposed to staying on a very bad team.
Oh that’s just silly. Jones liked it in Baltimore; he didn’t want to be a rental. We have this cognitive dissonance with this – we want players to be loyal and then complain when they are loyal.
Your comment is spam. Adam is one of the great competitors and professionals of his era.
Adam Jones cares more about Adam Jones than winning. The last 9 months or so have proven that. Boogaloo’s comment is 100% on-point. Those who disagree are in-denial.
Or he likes being around his family, Philly’s chances of “winning” were slim, maybe he doesn’t like Philadelphia or the National League, maybe he didn’t want to go somewhere for three months only to be a free agent again. Jones is, by all accounts, on of the very nicest guys and best teammates in the game. To imply that he’s a selfish player is pretty beyond the pale. If your job came to you tomorrow and asked to transfer you to a city 1200 miles away would you just do it?
he was smart enough to realize that he was at home in Baltimore and Philly was set to free fall in the second half. I dont think just because he saw through Philly’s wild card bid and wanted to stay where he had been most of his career nessicary defines his sentiments in all situations.
Kirby Puckett was considered a great teammate and one of the best guys in baseball at one point.
Adam Jones has made all the money. If he’s not in this game to win, and he’s proving he’s not, he’s not a winner and cares about himself.
And to answer your question, yes I would transfer. Jones didn’t want to help the O’s organization, he didn’t want to play any meaningful games in August and September and wound up signing in Arizona which is a wee bit further than Philadelphia. Not sure if Arizona’s looking to play meaningful games either. Jones took the best offer. Money over wins.
So any player who ever signs with a losing team or vetoes a trade isn’t “in the game to win.” That’s baffling. Whit Merrifield just signed an extension with the worst team in baseball. Does he just not care about winning? The Puckett thing is an extreme non-sequiter, unless you are implying that Adam Jones is a domestic abuser which, if you are, you’d really better produce some proof.
And no, you would not leave your family and friends and the only city you’ve ever worked in to go somewhere for a couple months. We both know this.
For no extra pay might I add. He just bought Cal Ripken’s old house in Baltimore the prior offseason as well. Very poor choice on his part to buy the house a year before FA was looming but nonetheless I don’t blame him for staying as long as he could.
Funny that’s exactly how bryce Harper feels about his hair. He bases his hair off of White Goodman. He’s an idiot like White Goodman too.
David Starbucks you are a no-nothing. We both know this, and you won’t admit it. The Bregman comment thread along with Cat has proven that much.
I’ve worked in an industry where moving is the norm. I have moved and I will again. You should be ashamed at yourself for what you implied with your last line and for automatically thinking about domestic abuse. Typical socialist mindset; always point toward the lowest common denominator and provide the victim status.
Merrifield is a bad example; this extension was his first real payday. Adam Jones has his money. He opted to think about himself as selfish players do. Winning? Nah, it’s overrated. He has and always will be about the money. Pure and simple. We both should know that but you’re a bit slow in this game.
Well, Jones might just love it in Baltimore. I doubt they wanted him back. There are only 8 AL teams trying to win this year, and only one of them needs an outfielder (Cleveland) and Jones doesn’t really move the needle very much. Houses can, of course, always be sold or moved back into at the end of a season. I doubt Jones had much of a choice in where he was going to sign this offseason, considering he signed this late. He’s a bench player now.
@TR/Samuel: “know-nothing.”
Are you implying Samuel and I are the same person? Wow, you really are a know-nothing. Seeing you can’t help yourself and have a need to have the last word I thought I’d double back to see what ignorance you decided to spew today/last night.
Adam Jones could have been a corner OF on a contender for cheap. A million. A pay cut with a chance to win a ring. A ring is not what Adam Jones is playing for, clearly. He took the best offer. That’s his motivation. He does not play for rings.
Therefore, he does not care about winning. Game over.
What is this “contender” you are referencing? You are all over the place – You praise Kirby Puckett, who stayed with his team forever. You deride Jones, who was forced out of his team.
I do like the Samuel/TrimReaper stuff. It is incredible, to me, to see the lengths people will go to to attack me on what is, essentially, a free site with literally zero controls in place about multiple accounts. It feels like a pathology or worse (I can be found quite easily), but, in the end, I’m just sharing opinions. I don’t search them out.
He had a chance to play for a contender last year. I respect the family angle and all, but now he is 2,000 miles away from his family.
meh
Ketel Marte must not be making great progress on moving to CF
Jones is little more than a corner outfielder and “moral support” at this stage of his career. It’s doubtful he’ll see one inning in centerfield during the regular season.
Not doubtful at all. It’s probably inevitable that he will play at least a fair share of CF unless somebody really comes out of nowhere and can run with the job.
its funny how so many people write off Jones for scrap. Other then power, he was just as good offensively as he has been. hit .280 again, still provided modest power, and actually struck out a noticeable bit less.
Well, he doesn’t get on base, provides no defensive value, hits into a ton of double plays, isn’t much of a baserunner. I have heard he’s a tremendous teammate and a great clubhouse guy, does great stuff in the community, but the on-field production is pretty bad for what is basically a below-average corner outfielder
to say he doesmy get on base is absurd. yeah he doesnt walk, but he also hits for a pretty solid average and was, in my mind, a bit shafted by the defensive metrics last year. Yeah he’s not a great defender, but id argue he probably is not a terrible liability at one of the corners.
A 315 OBP is pretty bad for a regular outfielder. I’m sure he can handle a corner, but his offense grades out even worse if he’s forced into left field; hard to justify playing a leftfielder with a 732 OPS.
The power dip was abnormal. I think he’s closer to the hitter of 2017 but in a corner that’s decent at best at this point. But for 3 million bucks it’s a great add. Good clubhouse guy and a decent ball player. You could do a lot worse at that price.
He is average to a little above average, good player and still a part of a team. Not the focus like he was, but definitely not past his time I’m contribution. I imagine he has a good year.
That Marte looks extremely athletic and solid out there in CF.
it sounded like marte is doing quite well out there actually
Yeah, but Jones is terrible in centerfield these days, which is a shame, because he used to be one of the best at his position defensively. He is more of a corner outfielder these days.
Heyman is shocked that an elite player like Jones had to wait this long for a one year deal from a rebuilding team
He’s not elite
i know that. heyman believes he is. he is a fool
Heyman is ridiculous. Jones wasn’t even elite when he was younger and in his prime. He’s just a big name now, with below average D, terrible on base skills, and mediocre power. It’s amazing a guy like Heyman with his silly thinking can get the inside info he gets. I guess most people think he’s too dumb to do anything with important information.
Heyman is shocked that dontrelle Willis broke the news and not him
I am glad for both Adam Jones and the Diamondbacks.
Diamondbacks are getting a class act as well as clubhouse leader. Good luck Adam !!!
I forgot he was a free agent… man these offseasons are brutal.
Seeing him not play us anymore will be super weird but it was expected after his continued declining performance. He was a great ambassador for the Orioles organization from what I saw.
As for the D backs he can surly help in a part time role
@Yankeepatriot, as an O’s fan who’s watched him play countless hours I appreciate your comment. I’d say I owe you one!
good, now we can stop hearing his number one cheerleader (Jon heyman) complaining about how it’s such a shame this guys still on the market
As an Oriol fan since 1969, sad to see him go, wish him the best, thanks Adam for all the fun you provided to us, on the field, in the clubhouse and the community though I don’t live in Baltimore…
As an oriol fan… you’d think by now you’d know how to spell their name by now
Hey grammar police, read your rebuttal a couple more times. By now your comeback should be intelligent by now.
As an Orioles fan since 1969, sad to see him go, wish him the best, thanks Adam for all the fun you provided to us, on the field, in the clubhouse and in the community even though I don’t live in Baltimore, I am aware of all you did..
Dbacks have been searching for a CF to replace Pollock since last season. They still don’t have one. Marte looked pretty darn good to me at 2b. Hope they don’t derail him with the move to CF. Snakes are trying to shoehorn guys all over the field. Their defense is going to take a hit this season. Jones doesn’t move the needle much for them. Best outcome is he performs well in a limited role and they move him for something at the deadline.
Move him at the deadline? Who is going to want him?
No one really wanted him at the starting line, now someone is going to want him at the finish?
I dunno…..SMH
To say no one is going to want him is a bit of a stretch. I’m sure AJ wanted regular playing, and it’s not like any contending teams were going to offer that. With that said, teams still look for bench pieces, and he’s a great guy who’s roughly league average. If he performs well there is no doubt teams would be interested, especially to supplant their bench. You can’t really price point clubhouse leadership or vet presence nor should you shell out gobs of money for it, but he can still provide some pop and hit whether it’s a spot start here, a ph opportunity, or a DH appearance. Non he’s not going to bring back much, but that’s a different argument.
Jones might not be the player he used to be, but he’d still be the best OF on the Indians. Yeah, the Indians might win their division anyway, but they won’t get far in the playoffs with that OF.
And they would get further by signing Machado and Harper.
Wouldn’t!
horrendous CF. are they really going to play him there?
They shouldn’t, but it’s not like they’re gonna return to the postseason this year, so what does it really matter?
Really was hoping he’d return to the Os. I didn’t think it would happen initially, but thought the later it got the better chance they would sign him. Guess not. I’ll miss him
Lol, Braves are paying more for Adam Duvall. Ridiculous.
Doubt anybody had this pick for the FA contest.
He no longer is an upgrade defensively. His bat has declined and he never could take a walk. Who knows. He may become a good ph. Totally understand why he was still available. I’m surprise he was able to get a ML deal.
I don’t know if his value is that low. He still has a roughly league average bat that could play on almost any teams bench and although you’re correct on his defense, he can give any outfield position a day off which has value. Add in his veteran presence and leadership and I doubt he was never at risk of not getting A major league deal.
His value was never that low. Anyone suggesting Jones deserved a minor league deal is insane. He’s not the same guy he used to be but if players like jones can’t get a guarantee there’s something wrong with baseball. He’s one of the most respected guys around the game and despite his horrible defense he was still a 1.7 fWAR player. The orioles were the least analytical team in baseball and it’s entirely possible that we didn’t put him in the best spots to field balls either which can degrade defensive metrics. His days of being a plus CF are long gone but there could be hope for improvement in a corner and maybe even passable CF defense on a part time basis.
Its not understandable why hes still available if he was willing to take 1/3M a few months ago. Lots of same tier or worse guys got similar or better deals all offseason long
Probably holding out hope an injury in Spring Training opened a spot on a more desirable roster and/or led to a better contract offer.
A rare player, in that nobody (and I mean nobody) doesn’t respect the guy. He’s always been rated “plus” or “plus-plus” in the clubhouse.
That said, the train’s left the station. Jones just doesn’t add that much to a roster. Still, at that price, I would have thought the Indians might jump in.
And no, if Jones is in CF, it better be because your starter and backup both broke their legs during the game…..
I’m just glad the guy finally signed
Why does everyone keep saying Jones was an instant upgrade to Cleveland’s OF?? Martin had a WAR near 2. Bauers, Naquin and Allen still had higher WARs in less playing time. Not sure what Jones was improving when he boasted a .2 WAR???
I agree. Martin has proved he is healthy and is in center but Jones shouldn’t be playing there anymore. Greg Allen in proved a ton in the second half and should be the 4th outfielder at worst. I think Hanley will end up getting the DH spot because of Francona and his love of vets which pushes Bauer to one of the corners. It doesn’t happen often but Mercado might manage to hit his way onto the team. I will take those 3 guys who all have potential over the guy that is declining.
The Indians gave up 2 excellent OF prospects to get Mercado from the Cardinals. Now at age 18, Jhon Torres is regarded as the Cardinals #6 prospect – a big, fast power-hitting RF with a strong arm. Future star.
The Cardinals are stacked with OF’s, so Mercado was not going to play. At 24, he’s ready for the bigs now.
While the uninitiated think the Indians didn’t do anything about their OF, they’re wrong. Mercado will be brought along to be a primary OF. He can play all 3 OF spots, and SS if needed.
Bauers was already on top of the first base depth chart and why would Hanley be the primary Designated Hitter when they have Carlos Santana who is the better hitter these days?
If Hanley makes the team, he will DH and Carlos Santana will play first. Bauers will play left field.
Not a very bold prediction, but I predict an on-base percentage under .300 this year.
That is what has always kept him from being a superstar, in my opinion.
Really happy to see him sign a deal. Good player and a great person. I hope he finds the fountain of youth in the desert and makes all of his incentives. Even as a Red Sox fan, it’s hard not to root for this guy. Go get ‘em Adam!
Get him into camp!!!
paying for past performance is the old standard. players better recognize that, as well long-term contracts could be nonexistent.
These things roll from being a strategic disadvantage to an advantage. I generally laugh at the idiot writers complaining why a player of Jones’ status is unsigned. It’s been a while since Jones has been a player of Jones’ status.
But he shouldn’t be ignored, especially at this price. He is a low 3/high 4. Any rebuilding team should have been interested.
Fun fact, I learned that Brett Gardner has +5 more bWar then Jones, but I always considered Jones to be a much better player. Gardner is starting for a playoff team, and Jones was an afterthought on the market…
Shows how much I know
Well, Gardner is actually bad now, and should probably be a fourth outfielder at this point. But yes; Gardner’s career is underrated – his speed, defense and on-base skills were always superior to Jones’.
Gardy and Jones arent really all that easily comparable. Jones has been much more of a power hitter and has hit for consistently more contact, while Gardy’s game was much more speed-centered. Gardy does walk a lot more, but actually has struck out more then Jones in recent years. Both have had good defensive runs, and while Jones’s peak was probably better, Gardner has had much greater defensive success in the long run. Ultimately, it depends on how much you value each aspect of their games, which would lead me to say you can swing it either way. I would have to agree with Cone (to some extent) and say Jones is probably more of a 3rd OF then Gardy at this point though.
Long time Orioles fan here. Arizona is going to love what Adam Jones brings everyday. Good power, good defense, and great attitude and leadership. Adam is what’s great about baseball.
He’s been a horrible defender three years now. This is not 2014 anymore.
You will see.
2019 Arizona. 70-92
Better than anyone the Giants plan to send out there this season. Guess he couldn’t be had for a minor league deal so Farhan wasnt interested.
Yeah I don’t really get why the Giants didn’t give him $5mil/1yr gaurenteed! And maybe they did try to present an offer to him like that, my thinking or what I think maybe AJ did here, was he weighed all his offers and saw what the best options were for him depending on where he liked to play, the team and their prowess currently and near future, and of course most of all, the amount of money he was offered and over how many years a team was willing to commit him. I assume AJ did not receive any offers of more than one year this go around, or if he did he passed up on it and it bit him, or it was to a team he would never want to play for. So he looked at the teams that offered him the most money for a single season on a major league contract (gaurenteed) but may have even taken less to play for the DBacks on a single year deal for $3Mil, as opposed to if he had received an offer of $5mil for a single year with say the Giants (or possibly even the same annual value for multiple years) instead AJ IS looking at the two teams current state, the dbacks probably in a slightly better position, as well as him “betting on himself” and wanting to play 81 games at Chase field which is an EXTREME hitters park in my eyes as opposed to playing 1 year/81 games and Oracle Park which IS an EXTREME pitchers Park and would limit his offensive output therefore hampering his leverage towards an even better contract for multiple years with a higher average annual value…so I believe that’s what he is doing here as it would be what I would do if I were in his position and what I think would be the best case scenario…though I really wanted MY SF Giants to pick him up!!! Dang, especially at that amount for a single season!?!?!?! He would have been an awesome pick up for the depleted outfield, a great veteran presence for the younger outfielders like Mac and Dugg, AJ being a great compliment/platoon partner for Duggar if the Giants do think he may need some more seasoning and at bats as a full time everyday player batting against righties AND lefties…but anyway, He’s off the board now, on to the next target, if there is one..starting to think Farhan is just an undercover Troll for the Dodgers as I have yet to see what kind of direction or path he’s taking the team and us fans on…But I’m a Diehard since 1988, so I will have to suffer through those low times, but hopefully it will only make those high times even better I’m a few years when the Giants beat Bryce Harper and the Phillies in the NLCS and go on to beat Giancarlo Stanton and the Yankees in the World Series to become the 2024 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!!!
I think he shot himself in the foot with this contract by not going to the Phillies. If he wouldve strung together a nice month he wouldve gotten something way better than 1yr $3-5MM
Most definitely, plus even they way that went down he still may have been dealt to a better contender but nobody wanted to waste their time working out a deal and hope he accepts it.
This is an outstanding move for the D-backs. This moves brings a cheap and quality player (though on the wrong side of 30 and in decline) ready to fill out a thin outfield situation. David Peralta is solid and Marte should be solid but there has to be a question about him defensively with his move from the infield. I have not been sold on Steven Souza staying healthy and providing reliable performance in RF. Having Adam Jones in the stable even in a time-share role among 4 OFs is such an upgrade over Socrates Brito and whatever other unproven option the Snakes were planning on rolling out. $3 million with $2 million in incentives? No brainer deal and I’m surprised Arizona was able to secure him for so little money.
One of the most overrated players of this generation. Career OBP of .318, 900+ more strikeouts than walks, slugged over .500 one time (barely, .505). And for all the cries of how great a defender he is/was, his career Defensive WAR is -0.3, yes, below average. Great person, wonderful in the community, not a great player, at all.
Excellent deal for arizona ,very good player and cheap¨…
This is such a great move! This man is a 280 hitter and 20 home runs. He will hit 25 hrs and bat 290 in Arizona. He will get a 2 year extension in June. I cant believe how underrated this move is. He is still young, on top of being a great defender and clubhouse leader. You got this guy for so cheap. This is a Steal! Marte can play 3 positions. Jones is not a guy who can just hit lefties. He hits righties well. I love it. Dbacks hitting is quietly really good. Flores will have a breakout year playing all the time.
1. 2b/SS Marte 16 hrs 270 avg
2. 3b/ Escobar 22 hrs 280 avg
3. LF Peralta 30 Hrs 290 avg
4. 1b Walker will hit 25 hrs 265 avg if he plays consistently. He rakes in the minors
5. CF Jones 25 hrs 280 avg
6. 2b/SS Flores 23 hrs 285 avg
7 OF Souza 28 hrs 245 avg
8. C Joseph/Kelly 10 Hrs 250 avg ,Avila will be let go. Joseph should play more.
You’ve got 3 orioles castoffs in your starting lineup and you apparently forgot about Jake Lamb. That’s probably the worst defensive team in baseball and that team wouldn’t score enough runs to make up for it. It’s a 3rd place at Best year for AZ.
Dude… they were the best defensive team IN THE LEAGUE last year. but don’t let facts get in the way of your bashing.
Yeah, but they don’t have all of the great defenders they had last year.
You do realize that in the proposed scenario they are significantly downgrading defensively at SS, CF, 2nd and 1st? Defensively you can’t call facts from last year when two of their best defensive players are now gone. Now granted Ahmed and Marte will probably play up the middle, Flores will be relegated to corner (where in all honesty he belongs) more times than not, same with Jones. So defensively their actual lineup isn’t as flawed as the post, but offensively it’s still a downgrade with flaws when you explore beyond average and HRs.
Exactly I wasn’t talking about last year. I could careless what they did last year. Look at that proposed roster. Read through that list of guys and tell me that’s not a bottom 5 defensive team…..
I’m glad somebody said it! Dont get me wrong, I love the deal and wish my team picked up Adam Jones as they severely need the outfield help, offensive and defensively, not to mention AJ is someone who can still play CF in a pinch if not semi regularly, and at the terms of That contract, you really can’t beat it! Buy dude, dial back your numbers a little…ai know it’s Chase field in Arizona where they will play half their games, but they also need to play most their games against the NL west with three total pitcher parks, and all those guys would literally need to all have their career years (or dang close to it) to equal the numbers your projecting for them! Optimistic much? If they all approach those numbers and play a lick of defense, 3-4 guys in the rotation put up 200+ innings of 3.50 Era or better and you’ll have your playoff team, shoot if not one of the 2 wild card teams, it may just take the West, with the Dodgers I’d say downgrading a little, the Rockies getting a little better, the Padres should be a lot better, and the Giants pretty much staying stagnant (though I’d like to say, getting a little better as literally EVERYBODY last year had a bad year, and that juse can’t happen again)
Wilmer Flores at 2b and Adam Jones in center. Hey, Nick Ahmed, congrats on your gold glove. Now cover more ground.
He has not soent 13 years with us
Adam Rattlesnake Jones !!!!
Already adept at crawling around on his belly as an Oriole.
Broken by Willis.
I think Adam Jones will prove to be an upgrade over A.J. Pollock. However, in the end, I think ARI will try to sell off Zack Grienke by July 31.