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Looking For A Match In A Marcus Stroman Trade

By Connor Byrne | June 6, 2019 at 7:14pm CDT

Even with Giants left-hander Madison Bumgarner factored in, Blue Jays righty Marcus Stroman may end up as the most valuable starter on the move before the July 31 trade deadline. Like Bumgarner, Stroman has established himself as a legitimate major league starter. But while Bumgarner’s set to become a free agent after the season, the 28-year-old Stroman’s under wraps through 2020. Furthermore, on a $6.3MM salary this season and a to-be-determined arbitration salary next year, Stroman doesn’t come at a prohibitive price tag.

Since he debuted in 2014 with the Jays, who selected him 22nd overall in the 2012 draft, Stroman has pitched to a 3.80 ERA/3.61 FIP with 7.23 K/9 and 2.57 BB/9 in 127 appearances (121 starts) and 741 innings. Those numbers aren’t going to blow anyone away, but Stroman’s a two-time 200-inning pitcher whose groundball percentage (59.8) ranks second among starters over the course of his career. And Stroman’s now amid a season in which he has recorded a terrific 2.84 ERA/3.48 FIP with 6.99 K/9, 3.08 BB/9 and a 58.1 percent grounder mark across 13 starts and 76 frames.

The fact that Stroman’s on pace for another 200-inning season is key considering he amassed a mere 102 1/3 during an injury-shortened 2018. Stroman’s also just a few years removed from missing nearly all of 2015 with a torn ACL in his left knee, but the good news is that he hasn’t battled any significant arm problems in his time in the bigs.

With Toronto near the bottom of the league right now and unlikely to contend in 2020, Stroman stands out as its most logical trade chip. Stroman’s time up north may conclude this summer as a result. With that being the case, we’ll take a look at a slew of potential suitors (listed alphabetically). Based on the latest farm system rankings from Kiley McDaniel and Eric Longenhagen of FanGraphs, some of these teams are in better position than others to win a possible Stroman sweepstakes…

  • Angels: The 2020 Angels should get back injured starter Shohei Ohtani, who’d be a massive upgrade over what they have now, but they can’t count on him to eat up a lot of innings in his return from Tommy John surgery. Meanwhile, Tyler Skaggs and Andrew Heaney haven’t been the most durable starters either, and Griffin Canning, Jose Suarez and Jaime Barria are largely unproven in the majors. Based on all of that, Stroman would fit in the Angels’ starting staff next year. He’d also aid in their push for a playoff spot this season.
  • Athletics: Injuries have sapped the Athletics of starters dating back to last year, but they still made the playoffs in 2018 and are within striking distance of wild-card position at the moment. The A’s are scheduled to get some rotation reinforcements back in the coming months, which could dampen interest in Stroman, though he’d likely better their postseason chances this year while taking care of one-fifth of their starting staff for 2020. By then, free agents-to-be Brett Anderson and Marco Estrada could be out of the organization.
  • Astros: Despite its resounding success in the standings, Houston hasn’t been able to find a capable fifth starter to slot in with Justin Verlander, Gerrit Cole, Wade Miley and Brad Peacock this year. Looking forward to 2020, Cole, Miley and Collin McHugh could leave in free agency. Lance McCullers Jr. should be back from 2018 Tommy John surgery by then, but there would still be a place for Stroman.
  • Braves: The good news is that the Braves aren’t at risk of losing any starters in free agency during the winter. The bad news is that their current starting mix hasn’t been all that effective outside of Mike Soroka. Even Max Fried, who burst out of the gates this year, has come to Earth of late. It’s no wonder they’re going after free-agent lefty Dallas Keuchel. Signing him may make a Stroman trade unnecessary in the estimation of Atlanta’s front office.
  • Brewers: Even though their rotation has been less than stellar this year, the reigning NL Central champion Brewers have a realistic shot to win their division again. Stroman would help Milwaukee’s cause for this season, and he’d take care of a rotation spot for the small-market club in 2020.
  • Cardinals: The Redbirds’ rotation has been a disappointment this year, which explains their interest in Keuchel. Let’s say the Cards do land Keuchel on a multiyear contract. Their rotation still wouldn’t be set for this year or next season. No one from their starting quintet has been particularly good this season, and Adam Wainwright and Michael Wacha are each set to become free agents.
  • Cubs: Chicago wouldn’t be in the driver’s seat to acquire Stroman this summer because there’s no clear opening in its rotation right now. Kyle Hendricks, Jon Lester, Cole Hamels, Jose Quintana and Yu Darvish are either locks or strong bets to retain their spots. But the Cubs may need to replace Hamels, an impending by free agent, by 2020. Stroman would offer comparable production for a much lower price. That’s important for the luxury tax-minded Cubs.
  • Diamondbacks: Considering they probably won’t make the playoffs, it’s up in the air whether the Diamondbacks will buy this summer; if they do, though, a Stroman acquisition would make sense going into next year. He’d occupy a place in an impressive-looking 2020 staff with Zack Greinke, Robbie Ray and, if they return to health, Luke Weaver and Taijuan Walker. Otherwise, Merrill Kelly could continue in place of Weaver or Walker.
  • Dodgers: Considering the Dodgers are oozing with quality starters, don’t count on a Stroman acquisition. Hyun-Jin Ryu and Rich Hill could leave as free agents thereafter, though, so let’s not fully rule out LA.
  • Mets: Team management has stuck by much-maligned fifth starter Jason Vargas, who has been outstanding of late, so it may not feel the need to part with prospects for Stroman or any other rotation piece. Starting depth is lacking in New York right now, however, and both Vargas and Zack Wheeler might be gone by next season.
  • Nationals: Max Scherzer and Patrick Corbin are guaranteed to return in 2019, which locks in an elite one-two punch. And Stephen Strasburg will probably be back, though there’s a chance he’ll opt out of his contract. Even if Strasburg sticks around, there would be room for Stroman now and next season to slot in ahead of Anibal Sanchez at the back of the Nats’ rotation.
  • Phillies: If the Phillies are going to maintain their lead in the NL East this season, they’ll likely need more from their starting staff. Aaron Nola hasn’t followed up on his exemplary 2018 performance, Jake Arrieta’s not what he used to be, and nobody from the Zach Eflin–Nick Pivetta–Jerad Eickhoff trio inspires a ton of confidence.
  • Pirates: The Buccos have been active in the trade market for starters in recent years, evidenced by their Cole deal with the Astros and their acquisition of Chris Archer from the Rays. The low-budget team was able to swing a trade for Archer because of his affordability. Stroman would give the Pirates another reasonably priced option next year along with Archer, Jameson Taillon, Trevor Williams and perhaps Mitch Keller. However, whether it would be logical for a middling Pittsburgh team to rob from its farm system for just over a year of control over Stroman is highly debatable.
  • Rangers: As noted on Wednesday, the wild-card contending Rangers are getting by with a relatively untrustworthy rotation this season. Even if Texas isn’t a real contender at the moment, it’ll aim for a playoff berth in 2020. Stroman would contribute to its cause.
  • Rays: No one would accuse opener-loving Tampa Bay of having enough traditional starters, and even the low-budget Rays would likely be able to afford Stroman. If everyone’s healthy, a rotation led by Blake Snell, Tyler Glasnow, Charlie Morton and Stroman could be a force.
  • Reds: Although Cincinnati can probably forget about a playoff spot for this year, Stroman would help replace impending free agents Tanner Roark and Alex Wood (who hasn’t even pitched this season) in 2020. That said, Stroman to Cincy seems like a long shot because playoff-caliber teams need him more right now and would likely outbid the Reds.
  • Red Sox: Boston’s rotation hasn’t been great in 2019, nor is its starting five etched in stone for next year. Chris Sale, David Price, Nathan Eovaldi and Eduardo Rodriguez will return, but Rick Porcello’s slated to reach free agency.
  • Rockies: Colorado’s rotation has taken enormous steps backward since 2018, thanks in part to former Cy Young contender’s Kyle Freeland’s fall from grace. Even if the Rox expect the demoted Freeland to rebound by next year, there would still be a place for Stroman in their rotation. As of now, German Marquez and Jon Gray look like the only sure bets for 2020.
  • Padres: Not only has San Diego been connected to Stroman on the rumor mill dating back to the winter, but its rotation certainly hasn’t been flawless since then. Considering those factors, the Padres may be the favorites to acquire Stroman.
  • Twins: Minnesota has sprinted to one of the league’s best records this year thanks in part to righties Jake Odorizzi and Kyle Gibson, but they’re headed toward free agency in the offseason. Stroman would replace one of them in 2020; in the meantime, he’d give the Twins another legit starter alongside Odorizzi, Gibson, Jose Berrios and Martin Perez. Michael Pineda hasn’t really answered the bell in his return from Tommy John surgery, and he’s yet another Twins starter who’s not under control beyond this season.
  • White Sox: At 29-32, Chicago has been a surprisingly respectable team relative to expectations. The franchise’s long-running playoff drought’s still likely to continue, though it may push for contention next year. Enter Stroman? He’d offer a nice complement to Lucas Giolito, which has been sorely lacking this season. Free agent-to-be Ivan Nova may not return in 2020, while Reynaldo Lopez has failed to build on a promising 2018. Other than that, the White Sox are waiting for Carlos Rodon and Michael Kopech to recover from Tommy John surgery and for high-end prospect Dylan Cease to work his way to the majors.
  • Yankees: New York could use an upgrade in its rotation now, which Stroman might be able to provide, and its starting five may not be set for next year. Luis Severino, James Paxton, Masahiro Tanaka, J.A. Happ and Domingo German are on track to return. On paper, that’s enough, but it would require general manager Brian Cashman to regard Happ and German as locks for 2020. Meanwhile, the retiring CC Sabathia won’t be back.

Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.

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  1. jeb39999

    6 years ago

    Twins would have plenty of prospects to make this happen, and they should.

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  2. TradeAcuna

    6 years ago

    Name me one recent Blue Jay that left Toronto and ended up being the same or better player? Donaldson is not one!

    Reply
    • Oilcan

      6 years ago

      Dwight Smith

      4
      Reply
    • jimmertee

      6 years ago

      Recent and not so recent: JA Happ, Kevin Pillar, Dwight Smith, Mike Napoli, Michael Young, Jeff Kent, Roy Halliday, Yan Gomes and Mike Aviles, David Wells, Syndergaard.

      Need I go on?

      2
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      • jorge78

        6 years ago

        So many good players good somewhere else!

        Reply
      • its_happening

        6 years ago

        Does Harold Ramirez count?

        Reply
        • SuperSinker

          6 years ago

          Definitely

          Reply
      • SuperSinker

        6 years ago

        Marisnick, Graveman, DeSclafani, Matt Boyd

        Reply
        • athleticsnchill

          6 years ago

          Wouldn’t say Graveman was good… he was looking to break out after a good second half of 2017, then had TJS. He was replacement level.

          Reply
      • Jbigz12

        6 years ago

        Dwight Smith hit even better in a limited sample for the Jays. They just never gave him a real shot to play.

        Reply
      • Iron Mike

        6 years ago

        Aviles or Napoli never actually played for the Jays.

        Reply
    • brewsingblue82

      6 years ago

      April 2011-July 2011 Shaun Marcum. August 2011 and thereafter Shaun Marcum, I’ll give you, was definitely less than stellar.

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    • Phanatic 2022

      6 years ago

      Roy Halliday

      Reply
  3. athleticsnchill

    6 years ago

    Lord I hope the A’s don’t trade for Stroman. If we’re looking at just statistics he’s okay, but his attitude is terrible. We don’t need that kind of player in Oakland where the media criticizes a player for the kind of dressing they put on their salad.

    Reply
    • jorge78

      6 years ago

      The great ranch dressing controversy AGAIN!!??

      Reply
      • athleticsnchill

        6 years ago

        “Well a Giants player would have ordered thousand island dressing, obviously the better choice.”

        Reply
    • jdgoat

      6 years ago

      You’re greatly exaggerating his “attitude” as if it’s a problem.

      Reply
      • athleticsnchill

        6 years ago

        Am I? He blew up at his manager after getting taken out when he was walking guys and giving up hard contact.

        He also likes to get on twitter and make unnecessary and unwanted statements on things that don’t concern him, and that don’t actually have anything to do with the issue at hand.

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    • troll

      6 years ago

      carlos martinez for stroman. head case a attitude problem

      Reply
      • SuperSinker

        6 years ago

        Staying on brand I see

        Reply
  4. Thomas Bliss

    6 years ago

    I want the White Sox to make a move for him.

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  5. darkangel

    6 years ago

    Stroman to the Angels? go ahead and get his TJ surgery scheduled in advance.

    1
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    • jorge78

      6 years ago

      Sarcasm? I hope?

      Reply
    • neo

      6 years ago

      Okay, we have Marcus booked for his SoCal TJ on September 7. Thank you for choosing Moreno ExpressTJs and as always, don’t forget to complete your contract extension at least two weeks prior to your appointment.

      We look forward to your brief contribution of hope to the Angels organization. Please enjoy watching the Mike Trout.

      Reply
  6. jimmertee

    6 years ago

    I hear St Louis is working hard on a Stroman deal.

    1
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    • Dustin Michels

      6 years ago

      Stroman for Carlson and Knizer?

      1
      Reply
    • jorge78

      6 years ago

      Stop eavesdropping!!!!!

      Reply
    • getright11

      6 years ago

      #scoutsears

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    • Goku the Knowledgable One

      6 years ago

      Pirates would be interesting too.

      Jays could easily rip off Huntington too.

      Say Mitch Keller, Hayes and Elias Diaz gets it done.

      Reply
  7. Dustin Michels

    6 years ago

    Houston- Stroman for C Martin and Nova
    Minn- Stroman for Graterol and Rooker
    NYY- Stroman for D Garcia and Loaisiga
    Milw- Stroman for Turang,Lutz and Dubon
    Atl- Stroman for Waters and Muller
    Philly- Stroman for Bohm and Howard

    Trade thoughts?

    Reply
    • astrosfan4life

      6 years ago

      I don’t think the Astros are willing to include Nova as he’s the SS in waiting if Correa doesn’t get resigned in Houston. I could see Martin and one or two other prospects in the 8-20 range from the Astros farm.

      Maybe C Martin, Dawson and Abraham Toro since he’s blocked at 3B?

      Reply
      • Dustin Michels

        6 years ago

        Good counter…I counter back C Martin/Abreu/L Santana for Stroman?

        Reply
        • astrosfan4life

          6 years ago

          I think that may be a fair trade. Let’s do it.

          Reply
      • clrrogers 2

        6 years ago

        You don’t think he’d be blocked at third base in Toronto with Vladimir Guerrero, Jr.?

        Reply
        • athleticsnchill

          6 years ago

          Infielders don’t always stick at the positions they’ve played most in the minors.

          Reply
        • astrosfan4life

          6 years ago

          He’d also be blocked at 2B, SS, and all OF positions in Houston.

          Reply
      • lacjrjd

        6 years ago

        Bregman would just move over to SS if Correa goes. Yuli could go back to 3B, or maybe Toro makes it in a year or two. Astros would be well advised to go for Stroman if there’s a reasonable deal.

        Reply
        • astrosfan4life

          6 years ago

          I love Bregman, but I don’t think he has the range to be an elite level SS. He plays more true to 3B, and probably 2B in 5-7 years.

          Reply
        • athleticsnchill

          6 years ago

          If Semien can do it, Bregman can do it.

          Reply
        • Troutmagnet

          6 years ago

          Yeah, but we don’t want a reasonable deal. Can’t we send him to the dumbest clubs in baseball? “Who’s prepared to be REALLY crazy?”

          Reply
    • flyerzfan12

      6 years ago

      Pass from this Phillies fan.

      Reply
    • jorge78

      6 years ago

      Buts what behind door
      #3?

      Reply
    • its_happening

      6 years ago

      To clarify Jays positions of need, in priority:

      Starting Pitching
      Starting Pitching
      CF
      Outfield
      SS

      Reply
      • SuperSinker

        6 years ago

        The Jays have a team OBP of like .288 lol they need hitters dude

        Reply
        • its_happening

          6 years ago

          They have no pitching in the minors.

          At least, in theory, Bichette is supposed to be in the majors in less than a year. The expectation is the hitting will be bad. But they have no pitching. That is an unquestionable fact.

          Reply
    • DTD

      6 years ago

      Atlanta says no and tells you not to call again until you’re ready to apologize and have a legitimate proposal.

      Reply
    • Johhos

      6 years ago

      No.. too much give by the Phillies here….

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      Reply
    • aamatho18

      6 years ago

      How about Duran/Rooker for Stroman instead of Graterol. I think Graterol would be used for a higher tier pitcher honestly

      Reply
      • Dustin Michels

        6 years ago

        Both those prospects are nice but not enough for Toronto to trade Stroman imo

        Reply
        • aamatho18

          6 years ago

          You can add another lower prospect, but I don’t think more than that is going to get it done. I’d rather run out Graterol this year to see what he has rather than giving him up for Stroman. I think Duran has the potential to be a very good #3/low end #2 which is Storman’s best case scenario

          Reply
    • fighterflea

      6 years ago

      from Philly, not Bohm or Howard who would be offered only for a true #1 starter which Stroman wouldn’t be. But consider a deal of Stroman and Ken Giles for SS Luis Garcia, P Adonis Medina, C Devi Grullon and CF Mickey Moniak.

      Reply
      • SuperSinker

        6 years ago

        Haha jays don’t need spare parts. Next

        Reply
    • itsallgood013

      6 years ago

      For the Twins, I’d hope they could get Giles too, which would mean adding a Gordon/Javier/Wade type or more.

      Reply
    • aerainier

      6 years ago

      Gonna take Kyle Tucker from Houston and i think they’ll be open to move him because Houston will also get some unknown single A pitcher thrown in and in 3 years he’ll be a top 50 spec.
      But Tucker, Toro, Fisher and Martin make sense.

      Reply
  8. Nolan88

    6 years ago

    As a Phillies fan #1 want right here.

    Reply
  9. zimerust

    6 years ago

    More valuable than Bumgarner? I dunno. Teams making the trades are wanting a guy to go deep in the playoffs, not just have 1 more year of control after a season of an ERA north of 5.00

    Reply
    • athleticsnchill

      6 years ago

      The last time Bumgarner pitched in the postseason he didn’t get out of the 4th and gave up a 3-run homer to a pitcher. One historic postseason run does not a reliable postseason performer make.

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      • Gobbysteiner

        6 years ago

        And the game before that he threw a complete game shutout. Are you seriously implying that Bumgarner, the man with the lowest World Series ERA in baseball history, is not a reliable postseason performer?

        Reply
  10. loach

    6 years ago

    Another pointless, insightless list of teams who need pitching. Way to fill space, Connor.

    Reply
    • Cat Mando

      6 years ago

      loach
      Feel better? You could always ask for your subscription money back. /s

      Reply
      • jorge78

        6 years ago

        Right?
        He should get double!

        Reply
  11. Polish Hammer

    6 years ago

    Always thought he was overrated just like Archer.

    Reply
  12. bleacherbum

    6 years ago

    Padres:

    SP- Marcus Stroman to San Diego

    RHP- Cal Quantrill, LHP- Logan Allen and OF- Tirso Ornelas.

    That’s numbers 6,11 and 13 in the Padres top 30 going back to Toronto.

    Both arms are Big League rotation ready now, while Ornelas is about a year away.

    Reply
    • Dustin Michels

      6 years ago

      Ornelas is more than a year away. If all goes right he is 2-3 years away but overall a solid strong offer imo.

      Reply
    • bigdaddyt

      6 years ago

      Pretty sure jays do that in a heartbeat, don’t see the Padres doing that though

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  13. ericl

    6 years ago

    The Blue Jays will want pitching back in a Stroman deal & that pitching will need to be close to major league ready. Most of the teams mentioned in this article lack that. That will eliminate many of those potential trade partners.

    Reply
    • athleticsnchill

      6 years ago

      Which for the A’s would be one of Puk or Luzardo. Big no thanks.

      Reply
  14. Begamin

    6 years ago

    I’d like Stroman on the Yanks, please

    Reply
    • Steven Chinwood

      6 years ago

      Today it’s Stroman, tomorrow Archer.

      Reply
  15. its_happening

    6 years ago

    Was I the only one that laughed at the Angels suggestion?

    Must get pitching back. Must must must.

    Reply
  16. Rich Hill’s Elbow

    6 years ago

    I know the Padres could easily outbid the Twins, but what if the Padres really have their eyes set on either Bauer or Syndergaard? Would this be the next best offer?

    Twins get: Marcus Stroman

    Jays get: Blayne Enlow, Gilberto Celestino, Lewis Thorpe, Adalberto Mejia

    Reply
    • SuperSinker

      6 years ago

      Awful

      Reply
    • Lightning

      6 years ago

      Stroganoff is not Cy Young.

      Reply
    • itsallgood013

      6 years ago

      Yeah, I think there would have to be a higher profile guy in there. I wouldn’t do a 4 for 1 anyway. 3 at the most.

      Reply
  17. reds fan 913

    6 years ago

    REDS

    Reply
  18. wv17

    6 years ago

    A shorter article would be “here’s why 7 teams don’t need Stroman.”

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  19. HaloShane

    6 years ago

    This guy has Stroman possibly going to the Angels…. The Angels organization has no idea who Stroman is.

    Reply
    • Costandreward

      6 years ago

      1.35 ERA in 3 games against LAA. I’m sure they know who he is. haha

      Reply
  20. MiltonMan 2

    6 years ago

    Why don’t the Jays try to resign him. They really don’t have a lot of pitchers coming. He’s durable and he’s become a face of the team. He’s also very likeable.

    Reply
    • jdgoat

      6 years ago

      Agreed. When they’re going to contend they’re just going to turn around and trade for a pitcher just like him.

      Reply
    • its_happening

      6 years ago

      If the Jays trade some INF prospects for pitching prospects, sure. If the Jays had signed Kuechel to a 3-year deal and followed up with a Stroman extension, sure.

      Here’s the big problem with a Stroman extension; aside from Nate Pearson, the future of the Jays rotation is in serious trouble if they really want to contend by 2022 (not 2021 like some Jays fans believe). How do they receive more pitching? By trading Stroman, Smoak and Giles.

      Because Atkins didn’t receive a single pitcher in the Happ deal they will need to bring back an arm or two to compliment Pearson, potentially Sanchez and maybe Borucki or Thornton. Blue Jays pitching depth can only improve by trades, otherwise that 2022 will be pushed to 2024.

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