We’ve heard many indications this winter that the Padres won’t be in the market for the very top free agents. While the biggest fish have landed elsewhere, there are still a few major players left for the bidding. And Jon Heyman of MLB Network suggests on Twitter that the Friars may still be involved.
Specifically, Heyman says, the San Diego organization is “taking close looks” at two of the top left-handed hurlers still available: Madison Bumgarner and Dallas Keuchel. Part of the reasoning, it seems, is to take advantage of the strong defenders installed on the left side of the San Diego infield.
The Friars have also been involved to some extent on trade candidate David Price. The outfit hasn’t been connected to Hyun-Jin Ryu, the other major remaining southpaw starting pitcher, but perhaps he can’t be ruled out.
There are surely barriers here, beginning with the widespread interest these pitchers — Bumgarner, especially — have garnered. The rotation market has been buzzing with activity all winter long and several teams are still in obvious need of new arms.
The Padres entered the winter with questions about how much more they could spend, given the team’s already hefty commitments to Manny Machado, Eric Hosmer, and Wil Myers. The club already made a big outlay for Drew Pomeranz. GM A.J. Preller has reportedly endeavored to deal Myers (and as much of his salary as possible), but hasn’t yet found a match.
It’s arguable that the San Diego organization isn’t in desperate need of adding a rotation piece. Having picked up Zach Davies in a trade, the team has a solid-looking five-man unit on hand that mixes stability and upside. You can never have enough depth, and it’d be awfully nice to add a higher-end veteran on the staff, but it would also be difficult to move any of the team’s top five rotation candidates to the bullpen or Triple-A. In the event of a signing, it’d be fair to wonder whether the club might plan to spin another pitcher off to address another need.
Ryu at the moment may be the best of the lot, but it would be great to see Padres get one or two of these guys to make a serious run at LA.
Best? Dude cannot stay healthy. Imo he is trash unless he proven to pitch an entire season.
Lol if hes trash then so is a good chunk of the league
He finished 2nd in Cy Young but sure “trash”.
Looked pretty healthy and ace like last year. Far from trash
It’s going to take more than that for the Padres to compete with the Dodgers.
Is that you, Buster Olney?
Hey dummy22leo, Bumgarner & Ryu would make San Diego better than your Bridesmaids.
One step at a time I don’t think were in the position to compete with the Doyers, maybe in 2021 but only if we get two good SP’s to fill the void and get Myers out of here and eat 1/2 his salary.
How about the Padres finish a season over .500 before we start talking about winning the division
Don’t say that to Padre fans that’s way too deep
Its very obvious the Friars need two more SP’s if they expect to reach .500 possibly second or third place in 2020. One day AJ is going to find a trading partner for Myers and eat 1./2 his salary and AJ will need to throw in a top 75 prospect.. There’s a lot of pressure from the FO to get rid on Myers. Even before an OF or 2B we need SP, SP you can throw out all the names the Friars have for possible starters and not two of them would W 14 games each in 2020.
“Some day over the rainbow some team will take loser owed 60 mil” Keep the Faith! Lol
I believe in McKenzie Gore, Chris Paddack and Luis Patino. Bumgarner and/or Ryu would be in the starting 5 for me. Lucchesi & Quantrill are my next tier.
I don’t have a problem with Dallas K either unless he’s injury prone.
Did someone make these two accounts to have a conversation with himself?
“ I believe” that unknown pitchers aside from Paddack will lead us to promise land. I believe all prospects turn into players. Wise up
With padreforlife, there’s no “wise up”, just up—as in the Orange Orangutan’s keister at the new KKK rallies. Is that a peanut in your ear?
Ryu is a bad choice for a team like the Padres,. He has had 17 games pitched and 99 IP on average the past 4 years. He is also going to be 33 in March. One good year does not change that injury history or his age.
Padres not a pitcher away from competing with doyers. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Just a couple top tier pitchers, a few outfielders that can hit and play defense, a good defensive catcher who can hit more than his weight, and a 2nd baseman. Their shortstop’s ol.
And your Doyers weren’t a Cole or Strasburg away from competing with the big boys in the postseason. Glad they keep popping that petutti.
Dallas K. three yrs $35M is the projected deal for this guy, Padres could do this and at least get a veteran SP who could possibly W 14 games in 2020 if the team scores some runs, No. 3 SP in the rotation.
Just don’t feel comfortable with a guy like Dallas K. who throws mid-80s. Already had one LeBlanc.
Why can’t a team just use six starters? In an age when teams pay higher and higher salaries for fewer and fewer innings, a sixth starter seems like a way to keep those expensive arms fresh and to soak up the innings that pitchers used to throw.
Why can’t a team use 4? Why can’t they pitch an entire 9 inning game ?
Sometimes the ignorant comments on here are as bad as on a Yahoo comment section. You’ve already made 2 idiotic statements, that Ryu is trash and that pitchers could routinely complete 9 innings in an environment where pitchers are throwing harder and with more max-effort than ever before.
You are correct, but it’s pretty fun to go on baseball reference and check out the stats for teams in the 1800’s. Came across a page of a team that only used 2 pitchers for a whole season. Not 162 game season obviously, but both dudes threw like 800 innings or something.
That little nugget just made my night!
Agree with you lowtalker—use 4 Padre starters like Baltimore did with Cuellar, McNally, Flanagan and Palmer. They’ll easily do a minimum of 7 innings simply by pitching INSIDE with authority like they did back when starting pitchers were MEN. Don’t like platehuggers like Bellinger? Knock them off the plate often enough and they’ll start twirling their bats just like the batons they spun in high school. Pretty hard to hit HRs when you’re on your heels. OWN the inside of the plate, Padres!!! Follow the Drysdale/Koufax example.
In my days of playing baseball( was a pull hitter and I’m only 26 now so I’m not talking to far back) it’s easier to drive wherever you want or even down the line cause that’s what you’re trained to do. However to each their own
@Padreshave32
Want me to get off your lawn too grandpa?
I think it was Dobson, not Flanagan. Flanagan was in the next generation of BALTIMORE Pitchers.
Can’t do that anymore. You’ll get tossed / fined / suspended if the umpire thinks you’re intentionally trying to miss up a hitters’ hair.
Exactly
It was McNally, Dopson, Palmer, and Cuellar.
Get it right. They won 20 in 1 year. Palmer won 20 games 7 times in 70’s don’t bring these guys up as comparisons to Padre pitchers at this time
Yeah, they all won 20 and then lost to the Pirates in the ‘71 series. Like the idea of throwing inside but in this era of multi millionaires and Joe Maddon, aggressive pitching gets the non stop critique
You’re probably right. Thanks.
Sure would be swell to have Marines filling up the stretch between 3B and home plate with a gauntlet of SAW lead anytime the Doyers were trying to score at Petco. I’d accept that as an alternative to mowing the varmints down with high and tight or rib crunching heaters.
Is it okay, your imperial heinie (padreforlife), that I bring up you were a boy cheerleader (who became a notch on the belts of 7 JV baseball players 21 times each) in 1973?
The name is Dobson, not Dopson, dummy padreforlife.
Teams need at least 7-8 starters to get through the season.
About 12-15 years ago the Indians 5 rotation guys started all 162 games. It was the first time that had been done in many decades. (Used to be 4 rotation guys.) Don’t think it’s been done since.
This part of MLB’s 24/7/365 year is Silly Season. 5 starters do not start all games – guys get injured and/or are pulled from the rotation. 8 position players do not start all games – more players have to play multiple positions as managers make moves during the game; and guys get injured, benched, or traded during the year. 1/3’rd of the back of bullpens change by the All-Star break, and more after the trading deadline.
FO’s look to build depth around a small group of their teams core players. They make changes to their rosters 2-5 times a week during the season. Those free agents that are instant core players get the big bucks. The tier behind them qualify as “nice to have”. Behind them are the value guys.
Someone who gets it, thanks Vandals.
Well put sir
Now there’s a 26 man roster, they can!
The limit on the 26 man roster is 13 pitchers, that would mean 6 potential SP’s and 4 middle, 2 set up guys and 1 closer.
Or 7 starters and 6 closers.
with you’re rhetoricaliness @AllinTX
More than likely they’d have 5/6 starters with 1/2 swing men( the extra starter acting as the swing maybe even more depending the flexibility on the bench and league al or nl) with 4-5 middle relief/set up and one closer
As well if you can be like the Yankees Red Sox or dodges and afford to pay your bullpen to have 6 legit closers there should be no reason you couldn’t win the World Series cause you have 6 different people capable to close a game out which would mean more scouting reports etc etc
Padres aren’t gonna swim in this pool
They’d need to commit 4 yrs/$100M to get one of the guys Heyman is referencing
In what universe is DK gonna get $100m w/ out it being 10 years?
This one? He was great last year and has a Cy Young ceiling. He deserves 5/100, easily.
Optimistic about a 31 year old’s ceiling
That 4.72 FIP isn’t getting $100M
That is quite the loose definition of great. I mean he had a decent ERA, average rate stats, didn’t pitch deep into games at all, just because he won a Cy Young a few years ago doesn’t mean he’s the same guy.
I agree with holecamels35. If he’s so great he wouldn’t have been on the open market last off-season into the regular season just cause he had a QO attached cause he has such a high ceiling the immediate Impact would have out weighed the draft pick. Even just to today’s date he would have been signed before the likes of lyles mikolas porcello Pineda and or Brett Anderson. Like i agree he’s a commodity but only cause he’s a lefty and his peripherals last year don’t really him a hot hot pitcher, just a veteran pitcher with a known body of work with the possibility to break expectations. I do feel however that if DK started with a team in spring training and or during AS break he could have done better. Idk though I’m just a 26 year old sous chef obsessed with baseball and statistics.
@strikefour
You just love being wrong don’t you. Cy Young ceiling! That’s a laugher.
@seattlesuperfan
“Idk though I’m just a 26 year old sous chef obsessed with baseball and statistics’
Thank you for the honesty describing all of us on here & the laugh.
47 year old paint salesman (wow, it dries) also obsessed with baseball less with statistics…There are just too many numbers running around making a mess and acting irresponsibly.
It’s your Doyers who don’t swim in the $100M pool.
Ooh, will it be? A Padres thread without bizarre trade proposals?
Wil Myers for Mookie Betts plus cash
Hosmer and Myers for Gincarlo Stanton
Wil Myers for a 3-lb container of Twizzers and chocolate considerations.
Maybe I should pray that he voluntarily retire instead of hoping for a non-baseball injury.
Will myers for Acuna and Albies
Lol im a braves fan btw
Here you go, sufferingfool—Padres jockstraps to the Dodgers in trade for racing-stripe Dodger silk chonies that will be issued to Petco-visiting Doyer fans like bobbleheads next season.
This Indian fan has a serious problem with the Padres lol.
How bout will Myers and a SP prospect to the Indians for Kluber maybe add baurs on the Indians end and the Padres add someone from their surpluss of outfield depth
Lol Will Myer proposals are plastered everywhere! You SD fans sure are funny.
The move most easily achieved for them might be a trade for Price. Swap bad contracts by including Myers (saves Boston a few million annually on the luxury tax) and then haggle over complementary pieces. The Padres get a pitcher who would be their number 1 while the Red Sox get a new first baseman and lower their tax burden a few million. It’s a win-win
Why not they trade price and pay the padres some of the difference
And there it is.
Can you ‘mell it, sufferingfool? Buy a bag of peanuts and you’re set.
Exactly. Myers back at first base/DH makes too much sense. But never put him in the outfield. He gets hurt out there and has said he hates it there. The one year he had at first for the Padres was very productive. Send Myers and a handful of prospects for Price.
Sorry but the Myers for Price swap is not going to get it done dollar wise for Boston… just that simple
They’d more than likely add one of their high priced ARB players to facilitate it but at the same time if that was the case I feel the deal would have already been done.
Anyone that wants to contend should be considering Bum, Ryu, Keuchel they are the only guys left.
And if Padres want to shed Myers, Phillies will take him stick him in CF for 60-75 games and split with Clutch, Hasley, Quinn. If they take back Odubel and Robertson’s contract it still saves 35.3M for the Padres and allows the Phillies to remain under the luxury tax and add another arm.
Please not a 25-30 mil contract for a SP. We still can get decent SP like Price for mabye half or so via trade and payoffs. Besides, although better than nothing, I still think we need at least 2 SP for the rotation to be viable. It would be nice to have Paddick pitching every third 3 rd day for a 123 punch.
FYI or Baum but please not Keuchel. And no long term deals. 3 years tops
Ryu or Baum but please not Keuchel. And no long term deals. 3 years tops
Price-Bumgarner-Paddack-Davies-Richards would make SD an actual threat
Baseball fans will still find a way to hate on it.
i am hearing rumblings of AJP taking Lindor away from LAD.. lindor for Patino + Hunt + Ashbeck and Baez is what a little bird is whispering in my ear
That’s such a terrible return it makes your bad post so much worse.
You should stop listening to birds.
More like falling turds from above Henry! Preller is all smoke and no fire….one of the most over-rated GM’s in the business….
Agreed, along with dipito. I’m happy we have a GM willing to trade but just because you trade a ton doesn’t make every trade worth it. My biggest example is (mostly cause I would pay 12$ to see him play in Tacoma) was the Chris Taylor for Zach lee trade
Might be taking to just be raising Lindor’s price tag.
And that would never get lindor haha
If you’re hearing birds talk, then you might want to seek medical attention.
That is a huge return for Lindor.
This year is genius, and the prices will keep going up. The game of musical chairs has begun for the 2nd tier pitchers. Teams would be smart to grab one quick or lose out.
The prices shot up for pitchers but fell for the top position player. Rendon only got 7 years. Unlikely prices for pitching will go up much more over the next several years
unless the luxury tax is lifted a great deal.
All over paid what is Willie Mays, Eddie Mathews or Bob Gibson worth in today’s market $40M+ a year. Anyway just going to the past with some great players.
back in the day… my dad was offered a contract to play for the reds… plumbing paid more so dad gave up the dream
Sox and Padres put together money and send Price and Myers plus Kinsler to the moon and not back.
Another day another Padres rumor.
For a team with a Rock Star GM, and a farm system chock full of A love prospects so they say, never saw the non-stop amount of trades and acquisitions that they might, but never seem to make!
They’ve made many trades this offseason and too many bad free agent signings in prior offseasons.
If it bothers you so much why are you clicking on a Padre story?
The Padres have been building this farm up for years. Why grab a free agent when they can start doing some trades? Go get an ace and give up some prospects. It’s now or never for their GM. He should go all in.
I say Dallas K. for three years and $45M, that would be the tops for the guy. Unless he’s injury prone then less.
Maybe you should check his history before commenting. If you don’t know, then just shut up until you do.
I know you know everything, NOT
I’m considering a $100 million yacht, but I’m not going to get it either. I’m not even going to get a $45 million yacht. Neither are the Padres. They are done except for low budget signings or trades.
You’re one of three or four pathetic posters always trolling on Padre stories. I wonder if they are all you?
Well he has previously been outed for using multiple accounts. Even on the same thread…
I see Koarmal as mentioned above on many other sites, good bye troll.
My Padres have bought a $300M yacht. Make sure you wax it next time you wash it or you’re fired..
Padres problem is they want to get rid of meyers contract but don’t want to trade gore to do it. pretty any team is requiring gore to take meyers
If that’s what teams are requiring, then they’re hanging up the phone. Gore is a consensus top 5 prospect is all of baseball, arguably the top pitching prospect in all of baseball. He’s also, barring injury, potentially ready to play in the majors this year.
The surplus value from Gore is more valuable than the amount they could clear in a Myers trade. Especially when you consider a Myers trade would need to be a bad contract swap, meaning essentially dead money would have to come back to SD in the deal.
This is how smart many of you are on this board: “Angels problem is they want to get rid of la stella contract but don’t want to trade/include Trout to do it. Pretty much any team is requiring Trout to take la stella.” Are you guys stupid or what?
Why not Dallas K for 3/45? if they are serious about making at least a wild card push. They just paid Pomeranz… If you disagree I’m ok with it
Sure – Dont do it now if you can off load Myers for Price somehow but that deal is going to take some real creativity I’d just like to see one true veteran pitcher ( besides Richards on his TJ comeback) to be a presence on that staff
Guybird I totally agree, need at least one other veteran SP, even Dallas K. for the three years as mentioned
Myers to Toronto make so much sense, especially if SD is willing to attach a pitching prospect with the deal (Morejon, Baez, Patino..)
Patiño is miles ahead of the other two
Source of mine in the Padres front office tells me that they are currently in talks with another team about acquiring a player. Not clear how far along talks are but Padres have enough prospects to get a deal done.
Again—what’s up with your picture? Getting slipped?
Padres best option to get rid of Myers is angels. They need first baseman, he would be surrounded by alpha males which he needs to be motivated to produce consistently and just take back international bonus money.
Why would the Angels want Myers? Even Albert Pujols at age 43 or whatever age he really is had a better year than Myers.
They wouldn’t. They’d want whatever prospects the Padres would be attaching to him. At least in theory. I don’t see them making that move because they just did the exact opposite in attaching their most recent first rounder in order to dump a bad contract of their own.
I concur!
The only bad contract that the Angels might take is David Price’s and only if the Red Sox pay it down.
Why aren’t the Blue Jays in on Wil Myers to play 1B, where they have a gaping defensive hole? He’d also be an upgrade on their dismal team OBP of .305 at .327 for his career. If Preller throws in Quantrill and Weathers (two sons of former Jay greats) and half of Myers’ salary, what would the Jays need to send to San Diego?
I’m not sure what the Jays FO’s individual evaluations of Quantrill and Weathers are. But I do know that they do not put a premium on them being sons of guys who played for the Jays or on Quantrill being Canadian.
doesn’t Bumgarner hit for more avg than hedges? sgn em up but why aren’t we talking machado trades teams need 3b hello
who is fastest pitcher on padres?
More importantly, Don Knotts is the Fastest Gun the West. He’s being signed to do 2 between-innings appearances each F/S/Sun home game.
That’s all, folks! Gotta go mimi.