It’s reunion season in Chicago. The Cubs on Wednesday announced that they’ve signed right-hander Jake Arrieta to a one-year contract with a mutual option for a second season. Arrieta, a Boras Corporation client, is reportedly guaranteed $6MM, which will be paid out in the form of a $4MM salary in 2021 and a $2MM buyout on next year’s $10MM option. He can also earn a $250K bonus for reaching each of 150, 160, 170 and 180 innings.
Arrieta, who struggled at the beginning of his career as an Oriole, joined the Cubs alongside Pedro Strop in a franchise-altering trade in 2013 and was an enormous success with the team through 2017. He earned a Cy Young (2015) and a World Series title (2016) as a Cub, and he also recorded a sterling 2.73 ERA/3.49 SIERA across 803 regular-season innings with the team.
The Cubs were in touch with Arrieta throughout his free agency, but they moved in a different direction, signing right-hander Yu Darvish to a six-year contract while Arrieta was still looking for a new team. Arrieta’s return to the Cubs, somewhat coincidentally, comes as the team is looking to make up some of the innings lost when dumping the remainder of Darvish’s salary in a trade with the Padres.
The Phillies may not have been expecting another Cy Young out of Arrieta when they signed him to a three-year, $75MM deal with a multi-season option, but they surely hoped to be getting an above-average starter. That, of course, did not prove to be the case.
While Arrieta had a respectable debut campaign with the Phils, his 2019 and 2020 seasons were marred by injuries, resulting in his worst performance since breaking out with the Cubs in the first place. Overall, Arrieta threw 352 2/3 innings with the Phillies in that three-year term, logging a disappointing 4.36 ERA/4.57 SIERA that was more indicative of a back-of-the-rotation arm than a difference-maker at the top of the staff.
Because of his mediocre performance and health issues in Philadelphia, Arrieta had no chance to rake in another high-paying contract this offseason. But the soon-to-be 35-year-old should earn plenty of starts now that he is back with the Cubs, who have just two proven options ahead of him in Kyle Hendricks and Zach Davies. Alec Mills, Trevor Williams and Adbert Alzolay look like the most realistic candidates to pitch out of the Cubs’ rotation, and they’ll probably all get their share of innings. Like most teams, the Cubs will likely cycle through a wide array of starting pitching options as they look to ease their staff’s transition from last year’s shortened 60-game slate back to a full 162-game workload.
Arrieta becomes the latest modestly priced free-agent addition of a 2020-21 offseason that has seen the Cubs add several new players without concretely improving. Ownership clearly wanted to scale back the payroll, hence the trades of Darvish and Victor Caratini and the non-tenders of Kyle Schwarber and Albert Almora. The front office, under newly promoted president of baseball ops Jed Hoyer, has signed Arrieta, Joc Pederson, Andrew Chafin, Williams and Jake Marisnick since a report that owner Tom Ricketts gave the green light for a “slight” payroll increase.
In addition to that group, the Cubs also picked up Davies in return for Darvish. They’ve certainly created the possibility that this wider base of talent could outperform the players they’re more or less replacing, and if it works out that way, Hoyer & Co. will receive plenty of praise for threading the needle between creating future flexibility and fielding a winning product.
That said, it’s also a risk-laden group with several players in need of bounceback campaigns. The Cubs aren’t clearly better than they were with Darvish, Schwarber, Caratini and a higher payroll and are arguably quite a bit worse. If this group struggles, the 2020-21 offseason will be widely viewed as a missed opportunity, given that only one team (the Cardinals) made any clear upgrades in what should’ve been a wide-open race for the division title.
MLB Network’s Jon Heyman first reported the two sides were close to a deal. The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal added that it’d be a one-year term. Robert Murray of Fansided tweeted that a deal was in place, and USA Today’s Bob Nightengale provided financial details (Twitter links).
ICanSeeTheFuture
I know he’s a mere shell of his former self, but I’m happy about this.
Dunk Dunkington
Same here, I know is is way past his prime but it is always awesome to see fan favorites return.
PeteWard8
Hahahahahaha Cub fans follow like sheep even tho there is nowhere to go hahahahahaha
Ryanemery8
You’re shot…at least be clever, or even just funny would work
PeteWard8
We want a hit. We want a hit. We want a hit. Hey Hey lets play two.
Awesom-O
Ooooookay. Glad you’re so entertained by a low risk signing. Yet the cards sign yadi for 3m more…
PeteWard8
That’s the Cardinals problem. You should be worried about the direction the Flubs are heading. Holy mackerel good kid!!!
richdanna
They have $40M in contracts penciled in for 2022. They’re going to be just fine.
Ryanemery8
Weird
Nuggethoarder
That is not true. They are paying Arenado 35 million that year and Goldschmidt 26 million. Rockies aren’t covering any of Arenado in 2022, just 2021 and then the final year of the contract. I think Dejong and a few others also are on the books, plus all the Arb players. But yes, they have a ton of flexibility coming up…
teufelshunde4
Wont be a fan favorite when he bombs out…
Staurt Sylvia
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Kayrall
No matter how he fairs, I can’t wait to go to Wrigley and cheer him on.
Aaron Sapoznik
For the money the ‘cash-stricken’ Cubs are paying him, Jake Arrieta might be a bit more than a “shell of his former self”. I’ve been following his progress this offseason as a potential FA addition for the Cubs or White Sox. He claims his physical condition is the best in years after leaving the Cubs as free agent following the 2017 season. Clearly he showed the Cubs enough in his showcase to warrant this latest guaranteed contract.
mactruck
As a Cubs fan, I hope you are right. He always seemed to be in great shape with the Cubs but his command is what I am interested in.
Aaron Sapoznik
Yes. Jake Arrieta’s “great shape” was good enough to land him in the 2016 ESPN The Magazine’s Body Issue when he was a Cubs ace. Chicago will now have two former ‘Body’ hurlers in town with the White Sox Dallas Keuchel also posing for the 2018 issue when he was an Astro.
Mjshof
Get a room
Dumpster Divin Theo
Whoa there. Don’t get too excited there. This is a family channel. Think you want MLB trade rumors after dark.
pt57
Can you get any more cliched than “I’m in the best shape of my career”?
DodgerOK
What else would he say?
bleeding_blue_138
I don’t mind the contract at all. It could be worse. I mean, the Cubs did pay Chatwood $13M a season for 3 seasons… Now that was a bad contract.
mlb9229
REUNION
shanefalco50
He’s a loser……..$6M down the tubes.
bigjonliljon
Me too. He’s not what he was but it’s kind of cool getting him back. Who knows what could happen
ChiSox_Fan
Dumpster divin’!!
Dumpster Divin Theo
You rang?
thebare54
Me too easy to catch fire when you a ex loved Cub- he was that and Ross can deal better than the nutty professor if he has success then get the big head again .
Deadguy
Jake always belong in a Cubs uniform. IMO trading Darvish then signing Arrieta doesn’t make up the ground. Nobody trades a runner up cy young as a playoff team especially with pockets as deep as the Cubs Owners. Guess they were getting what they could since they can’t/won’t trade Bryant?
htbnm57
Yes he is a shell of his former self who has steadily declined for 5 years. I don’t see that trajectory changing.
Francys01
Arrieta is back with the Cubs. I thought he had a high chance to play in New York with the Mets. I thought Cohen was going to get the best players from the free agency like Realmuto, Springer, Bauer, among others.
MetsFan22
Why is a cardinals fan talking about signings? Over the next 50 years you might get 5 years Total were you spend more than us.
pinstripes17
Nolan Arenado is far better than any Mets acquisition in recent memory, plus the Cardinals are perennial playoff contenders. IDK why a Mets fan is trying to talk trash here.
Sideline Redwine
Lol right? I dont even like StL but a mets fan talking smack about the cards…classic.
Chief Two Hands
Because that’s what MetsFan22 does…posts ridiculous comments. It was pretty funny seeing him gloating about the Mets signing Bauer before he went to the Dodgers. He even said said he was going to talk a lot of trash next season because of that anticipated signing, which he felt was a given.
bestno5
Lindor equals Arenado but other than that you are correct
baseballpun
Because the Mets have already won the next 3 World Series. A new modern dynasty. We should do what we can to break them up because they’re just TOO successful.
MetsFan22
Arenado is about to have a 750 ops without Coors field..
MetsFan22
This guy gets it.
Francys01
Pinstripes17- Well said.
stan lee the manly
That’s not at all how the Coors effect works lol. His home stats will drop while his away stats will go up, and he will continue to be a high-caliber player. You don’t just forget how to put the bat on the ball when you leave the high altitude. This whole thread is just a disaster for you my friend.
Metsfan42632
I think you could flip a coin on who is better between Lindor and Arenado. They are both 2 of the best at their positions. To say Arenado is far better than Lindor is a little crazy. I would even lean more towards Lindor. He’s younger and you aren’t worried if his numbers will dip by going to another team. As for who’s team is better. It’s not even close. Haha. Mets have a lot of catching up to do to be in the conversation with the Cardinals.
Eatdust666
Which would still be better than the steaming pile of garbage that the Cardinals got at 3rd base in the last two seasons.
SalaryCapMyth
Good thing you have that home/away split myth working for you. Most players have splits that favor production at home.
Just remember you made that prediction about Arenado. It’ll be one of the many things posters throw in your face when he produces a better OPS than 750.
Aaron Sapoznik
@pinstripes17
Frankie and Cookie both say hola!
desertbull
The Cards will be begging Nolan to opt out by the end of 2022
fannclub6
Pond scum
IronBallsMcGinty
Give me Lindor over Arenado any day.
Excillon
I think the Mets landing Syndergaard counts. Not a Mets fan but still, do your homework and show some respect.
Mjshof
Lindor >> Bryant
NYM > St Louis
KCJ
Pinstriptes17 –
Apparently you haven’t heard of Francisco Lindor. Where have all these children come from that litter these post boards with their arrogant, uninformed posts. Come back in 10 years when you’ve matured a bit and can leave a decent post in which you don’t sound like such a punk
andremets
If you are referring to which team is better right now, it’s a tossup. Cardinals are in a terrible division and probably looking at best, 85 wins. Mets are likely similar (they won 85 games in 2019).
andremets
Sucked for so long? The Mets went to the World Series in 15, wildcard in 16 and won 85 games in 19. That hardly puts them in the same category as the Tigers and Orioles. Have the Cardinals been to World Series since the Mets last got there?
Dumpster Divin Theo
Retracting critiques of this move. If Jeds primary motivation at throwing 6 mill at oldie but goodie Jakey was to instigate a Cardinal- Met barroom beatdown consider it money well spent.
thebare54
I bet the Cubs and Brewers have a better season than those Cardinals who got 3 players since Fowler is in The Angels organization.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Ha. Great story. On an unrelated note, I attended Thad Bosley’s mortgage closing as an intern the morning before a game with the Mets. I asked him if he was prepping for Gooden. He said he was most worried about Rob Darling.
looiebelongsinthehall
Typical Yankee fan trash talking in February. Sorry but your last ring in 09 is beginning to rust. They have a fine team but until a flag is again raised, please keep quiet.
Francys01
MetsFans22-Lol. It’s not about spending, what matters is winning. What your team has done in the last 20 years my friend? By the way, no disrespect to the Mets franchise because I have a bit of respect for that organization. I have liked a lot of players that have played for the Mets David Wright, Daniel Murphy, Johan Santana, Pedro Martinez to name a few. So, please before you talk about the Cardinals take a look what they have done at least the last decade. By the way, Chris Mazza is available he can go back to the Mets.
MetsFan22
Ok do you really think the cardinals roster is better than the Mets one rn? If so, you’re biased.
baseballpun
I’m getting to the point that I will be legitimately concerned about your mental health when the Mets Mets and finish 3rd this year.
MetsFan22
There is like a 20% chance of that happening.
VonPurpleHayes
While I like the Mets for 1st or 2nd, there is definitely a chance of them finishing 3rd or lower, and I’d say it’s higher than 20%. No one in the division should be sleeping on the other teams.
MetsFan22
If healthy Mets won’t get 3rd. Obviously teams have injuries and any team can then win division. But Braves and Mets is a coin flip rn and Phillies and Nats are very good but one tier below. In my eyes.
3Rivers
Oh but it is. You need good players to win, and they cost a lot of money, hence why spending money is important.
Besides, isn’t it easy for you to say. You’re a fan of team that isn’t in a small market. Payroll is not an issue for you, it never is. But it sure is for a handful of teams in the league that are essentially handicapped.
That part of MLB sucks. Unfortunately, it won’t change because the owners are plenty happy.
But not for you, not for the Met guy, deeeeeefinitely not for the Yankee guy or Red Sox or Dodger guy.
Smh
VonPurpleHayes
@MetsFan22 I agree. I’m just saying strange things happen throughout the season.
nik
“What your team has done in the last 20 years?” is poetry written by people who have nothing relevant to say. Clearly a team with totally different ownership, front office & players would be impacted by acquisitions made years ago.
I also love how people already hate Steve Cohen for buying a championship when he took on one solitary salary dump trade. Meanwhile, the Cardinals did the exact same thing this off-season and a team like the Dodgers has tried to purchase titles for years and is hailed as smart.
Very Barry
The Cardinals are not even going to win the NL Central. Even though the NL Central will be the worst division in baseball.
CardsFan77
So you know that for a fact… Before a game is played.. that’s AMAZING!
CardsFan77
Who’s your pick for the Central Very Barry? Please enlighten me on who is the absolute favorite?
Very Barry
I am going with the Milwaukee Brewers. The best of a bad bunch. I will take their starting pitching along with Hader and Devin Williams and put that with Yelich and Cain. I still don’t think St. Louis has enough offense. The outfield features no hitters whatsoever. Keep their pitchers healthy???? Paul Goldschmidt scares nobody!
Mjshof
The Amazings > Cards
andremets
Phillies could be decent. They have a great manager so if Nola and Wheeler pitch at elite levels, they could be very good. You figure their bullpen can’t be any worse.
Natalie could be good if Stas, Corbin, and Scherzer all click at the same time. They still have Turner and Soto
I still like my Mets to sneak by the Braves with like 92 wins but I do admit the Mets/Phil’s/Nats are all about the same. An Arrenado or Spinger was really needed…
andremets
Brewers. Solid rotation, great bullpen. I expect their hitters to rebound. After that, Cubs
Deadguy
Metsfan22, you are confrontational, what’s the point in arguing who’s line up is better? Everyone could end up injured come season time, then what? Let em play the game, then come back and talk like your team is the best? Guy even said no disrespect to the Mets, what do you want from him? His 11 WS championships? You have to earn those!
Baseball 1600
Cardinals are a historically consistent team. Hard to say that about the Mets.. lol
iverbure
This is how delusional fans are these days. They think signing free agents is somehow more important than winning now. Who cares how much a team spends, what’s more important is how much did each win cost.
MetsFan22
Bc they didn’t have the wilpons running their team. I doubt the cards do much better over the next 10 years.
MetsFan22
Yes spending money on good players usually makes you win unless you had horrible contracts and they flopped.
baseballpun
I got news for you buddy. Consistent success needs consistent drafting and playing development, not just paying for free agents. Maybe Cohen will hire people who can do that but his money isn’t going to fix a bad draft or a poor farm system.
MetsFan22
Have you seen how well we have drafted under Sandy?
nik
They’re just trolls man. We have more home grown All Star quality players than most teams. .
bigjonliljon
I agree with you as far as sustained success. But with the state of the Mets….. signing big names in FA puts a decent team on the field. Has a chance to compete and livens up the fan base. Buys them time for the farm to kick in. And I’m not a Mets fan
Dad
No , the Mets consistently suck
Deadguy
Metsfan22 cause Cardinals fans pay attention, and know. Don’t worry the Mets might win a championship with Lindor. He didn’t bring one to Cleveland though so keep that in mind. Baseball is about winning championships, not who spends the most Money, just ask the Yankees?
Far Beyond Driven
I’m sorry did you just call Arrieta one of “the best players?” Wow clearly you know so much about this game lol. Mets improved way more than the Cards did this offseason and we aren’t done yet.
Metsfan42632
Yeah the Mets didn’t get any of top 3 free agents. But they made a huge trade that was just as good or even better then getting any of the big 3. I think Lindor and Carrasco will make more of an impact then any one of Bauer,Realmuto,or Springer. Getting one of those 3 and the Lindor trade would have been great. They pushed hard for Bauer and made a solid effort for Springer. But I think they were better off spreading the money around. They had many areas that needed upgrades and have addressed most of them. They still have a few holes. But I think they have taken a huge step in the right direction.
Loling @ you
It’s funny hearing 2 irrelevant franchises scream at each other when neither has had success recently. Cards last ring was when pujols was on the squad Mets last ring was when gooden was on the team. Prior to 06’ 11’ cardinals were irrelevant for nearly 30 years. This just in cardinals are still irrelevant.
Dad
@taysumaki , Pennants, second in Rings, being in it every year, ya it sucks to be a Cardinals Fan!
baseballpun
“Prior to 06′ 11′ cardinals were irrelevant for nearly 30 years”
Let’s see…30 years before 2006 was 1976. Between 1976 and 2006 the Cards won the WS in ’82, and won pennants in ’85, ’87 and ’04. They made the playoffs several times between those pennants. Since 2011 they also won the pennant in 2013 and were in the NLCS as recently as 2019, so, you’re dumb.
Loling @ you
The object is to win a chip, who cares about division titles. We have 8 in the last 8 years. 3 pennants too Lol! It’s like the pot calling the kettle black between the Mets and cards. Ha! Also cards play Pittsburg, reds, Cubs, Brewers all bottom feeders for a long time. Anyone have how many rings all 4 have won over the last 25-40 years?
WillieMaysHayes24
The object is to win a chip you say….anyone know how many WS the dodgers have won over the past 32 years?
**2020 Covid Champions
CardsFan77
Doesn’t matter who you play.. it matters who you play in the playoffs…. Anybody can get there dummy it’s all about who’s left at the end
andremets
That’s silly. Cardinals have been very well run for the past 10-20 years and have several titles. It helps that they have only small market teams in their division, but they have won with mostly modest payrolls. Maybe other Cardinals fan can correct me but I feel like the last time they were bad was during the Torre years in the early 90s.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Details…
Larry David's Joe Pepitone Jersey
I think you’re conflating the expectations a lot of Mets fans had for the offseason with what the team’s actual plans were. The Mets said they would be “in on everybody” and that they would be focusing on building a deeper, more competitive roster. As far as I’m concerned, they easily met their promises for this offseason, despite missing out on Springer and Bauer. I”ll admit that I’m surprised that things worked out that way, but I don’t think you can chalk that up to Cohen making false promises or cheaping out.
nik
Why is a Cards fan obsessed with the Mets on a post about the Cubs signing a player from their glory days who’s close to retirement?
philliesphan77
Dude, right??
BuJoBi
Yeah mets fans should slow down on talking trash about the cards. The mets are a running joke and I mean no offense to anyone it’s just how its seen in my circles. Where the Cards are one of the most respected teams in baseball with a winning culture. The mets just throw money around and hope it works out
Dumpster Divin Theo
Mets fans might be delusional but at least the experience of going to a Mets game is pretty cool- the Jackie Robinson pavilion, good eats, lively diverse crowd. Have you been to a Cardinals game? Creepy as all get out. Lot of aging rednecks all chanting in unison about the “Cardinal” way. Like walking on to the set of Children of the Corn.
VonPurpleHayes
Lol. That was not my experience in St. Louis, but still a funny post.
Dumpster Divin Theo
By “in your circles” are you envisioning a barn, the lighting of torches, the donning of medieval robes and Tim McCarver leading the faithful in the chanting of the “cardinal way”?
neubs 2
Hope it’s incentive ladened!
chicagofan1978
Wow
Buckner
Now that’s hilarious.
cubs2016
Why’s that hilarious?
Very Barry
As a White Sox fan I am going to truly enjoy watching Arrieta getting rocked again! It was great watching him get rocked in Philly, but now, to see him get lit up wearing that Cubs jersey again …. this is a great day!
chicagofan1978
I know right. Now the Sox can really be in first place this year… oh wait they’re not even in the same league. So it literally has nothing to do with the White Sox
Sideline Redwine
Shocker, white sox fan talking smack! Y’all have not really been relevant for fifteen years (oh sorry, you guys were so good for sixty games last year!). Yet you always talk. Your roster is stacked this year, which will make the rest of us enjoy watching your team fail even more.
chicagofan1978
They won’t fail
mike127
At least you don’t care about Carlos Rodon….speaking of getting rocked. Silly me…thinking a Sox fan would care more about the Sox than any Cubs news.
coolhandneil
They can’t help themselves. It’s truly mind blowing.
Very Barry
Rodon chose the White Sox over the Cubs in free agency. He wants a ring! He would have been the #2 starter in the Cubs rotation behind Hendricks. Not even guaranteed a rotation slot with the Sox.
Ryanemery8
Ah boy, another uneducated comment
northsidecrossrifles
No, the Sox offered Rodon more cash. Carlos would be competing with Alec Mills, Trevor Williams, Adbert Alozay, Corey Abbott and a slew of other starters for the rotation spots after Hendricks and Davies. Davies has around a 3.3 ERA over his last 2 seasons and 220 IP while Rodon has been plagued by injuries and inconsistency and has only posted an ERA below 4 once in his career with that coming in 2015.
classicmixup
You are a joke! Rodon #2 starter?? Please
Dumpster Divin Theo
Except the Sox signed Rodon for $3 mill to maybe be their #7 starter, after trading for Cy Young contender Lance Lynn. The Cubs gave twice as much to Jake to be their #3 starter, after giving away their Cy Young finalist for peanuts. Hey, but don’t let the facts get in the way of a nice little temper tantrum
northsidecrossrifles
Rodon could be an interesting multi inning reliever. If he’s only going to throw 20-40 pitches, his velocity could play up. A lot of mediocre starters have had sucess in relief.
Regarding Arrieta, 6 mil isn’t a lot in this market. Drew Smyly got 11 mil for 20 something good innings. The way the cubs utilize Arrieta’s stuff (sinkers up in the zone) has worked wonders for Hendricks, and has even made a AAAA starter like Mills useable and occasionally great. I wouldn’t be surprised if Arrieta performs better in 2021 than he did with the Phillies. Like most things baseball, health will be key
Dumpster Divin Theo
Hey as long as you keep your expectations in check, nothing wrong with that. I liked Jake and think it’s great when Chicago brings back local legends. Like the Scottie Pippin, Fergie, Bobby Hull one last shift tributes. Or the 3 or 4 times Kenny Williams brought Bobby Alomar back to the South Side
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
You’ll be eating those words when he throw a no hitter vs the white sox at Comiskey Park.
Hammerin' Hank
I don’t know, Jake always has that smug look on his face. Might be a bad clubhouse guy.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Maybe not a smug look on poor Jakey. Just irregular. Could use more fiber.
rememberthecoop
Sox fans care more about hating on the Cubs than cheering on their own team.
Pathetic.
chicagofan1978
Not me
The Natural
There’s a fair share of truth to that statement.
Bryzzo4417!
It’s actually really sad. When the Cubs were making their 3 straight LCS appearances, I couldn’t have cared less about what the Sox were doing. But they are obsessed. I am convinced they would take more pleasure in the Cubs not making the playoffs than the Sox winning their division. They have a great young team, go enjoy that success instead of spending your energy hating a team that has NOTHING to with yours.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Bryzzo. Wow did you become a Cub fan in 2016? What steadfast dedication. Bet you bought a pink hat and forgot to remove the price tag
Bryzzo4417!
My whole life champ. But that was a really good one, peak comedy, 10/10
Catuli Carl
100%. It’s the Napoleon/little brother complex. Their organization is unimpressive and insignificant comparatively and all they can do is talk trash at the Cubs for attention. #PECOTA
Catuli Carl
#PECOTA
Very Barry
#WrongEveryYear
Dumpster Divin Theo
Rock rock. Rockaway Beach. This summer at Wrigley.
jdan74
Barry had to roll off his sister in some 80 square foot mold-ridden apartment in Canaryville to make this comment.
Rsox
The prodigal son returns
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
That line reminds me of a skit from Key and Peele. One of their best ones if you’re familiar with their show.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Liam Neesy?
C-Daddy
Does this qualify as dumpster diving?
junkyard
Recycling
chitown311
Not really, more of a nostalgia signing
rememberthecoop
You mean like Eaton? lmao
chicagofan1978
Yes
Eatdust666
And like Archer lmao
Dumpster Divin Theo
You rang sir?
rememberthecoop
He hasn’t been good since the steroid rumors started.
chitown311
They were vitamins!!!!
rememberthecoop
You must have him confused with Sammy lol.
Ryanemery8
Uneducated comment
jawinks
Boras is gonna milk >$5MM out for the nostalgia
paindonthurt
Archer got $6.5. Tell me his pedigree has been better than Arrieta? $5-6 mil is nothing for a veteran starter.
Misterants
I read somewhere it was $6.85m (arietta)
Dunk Dunkington
As a cubs fan, I am ok with that.
paindonthurt
The potential is greater than Lester at this point in their careers.
PutPeteinthehall
100 percent correct. Lester is a 500,000 mile vehicle. He has great success everywhere he’s been but is worn out.
Jake has less mileage and has a history of changing into Superman when putting on the Cubs uniform. From the time he put on the Cubs uniform until when he took it off for the last time he was the best they had. His agent screwed him out of the Cubs offer. He was offered the “Darvish” contract before Yu was. Jake killed himself by telling the Cubs he wasn’t going to give them a hometown discount. Boras had Jake believing he was worth a Gerrit Cole contract. He cost Jake over 50 million.
If Jake is in shape this is an excellent signing. He would have been better off dumping Boras and representing himself.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Jake might be in shape. Ask the dude with the muscle magazines.
User 355748524
I don’t know about that. Former pitcher Tim Lincecum had stated and even shared images of himself in a very fit state before the 2016 season started.
The four seasons leading up to that point were terrible, decent, and somewhere in between; a far cry from his peak years (2008-2011).
He ended up starting 9 games (2016) and providing a 9.16 ERA over those games.
That’s not to say results of one player are absolute for another, but being fit and actually having it come into play on the mound/in-the field is a 50/50 toss up.
“Best shape of my life” or “good shape” regardless, it should be interesting to see what side of the coin he lands on.
RedKing22
Trash-heapin’ Hoyer back at it again!
Sideline Redwine
A for originality.
Oops, sorry, F.
Catuli Carl
Do you consider all players who aren’t elite all stars as trash?
Dumpster Divin Theo
Bit prickly this morning?
Cubs Kev
I guess Rick Sutcliffe and Dennis Lamp were unavailable?
mets1536
Oddvark
I love lamp.
chicagofan1978
Loud noises
Catuli Carl
Brick, where did you get a hand grenade?
Dumpster Divin Theo
The portly Rick Reuschel says hi.
Hammerin' Hank
I always got Dennis Lamp and Dick Tidrow confused. They seemed like the same guy.
Dumpster Divin Theo
And then there’s Paul Reuschel. Everyone should be forced to wear a nametag. This is hard.
junkyard
Bring back Miggy, too!
VonPurpleHayes
As a Phillies fan, Arrieta looked like he had nothing left for the last 3 seasons. But he was always battling through injuries, and really gained my respect with some gritty performances. I hope he can somehow bounce back as a decent backend starter for the team he spent his glory days on.
chriscala
Your respect ?? Lol.
What a clown ! Phillies will suck for another 20 years. Troll
VonPurpleHayes
@chriscala What am I trolling about?? Geez louise. Some commenters are ridiculous. I’m talking about a pitcher who seriously declined, but still puts in some solid performances while clearly injured. I respect that. Not trolling anything. Relax.
cards04
Yeah idk what that was about. A valid statement, not like you said he was an ace or anything.
Very Barry
Injured after getting off roids
Bart Harley Jarvis
Thanks for your sh!tpost, chris. Much obliged.
Catuli Carl
Lol wtf? How was that a troll and why did that comment upset you? Like at all?
davidk1979
Thank god was afraid the Mets would sign him he’s done
MikeJ838
It’s better than nothing for the Cubs, at least they are doing something.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Actually pretty savvy move. The pink hatted Cubs contingent, of which there are quite a few, never realized Jake was gone in the first place and will go back to chanting without missing a beat.
Rangers29
This feels so satisfying. I like it.
Cubsforever22
I do too was really hoping to get him or archer and we get who I wanted. If healthy I think he has way more in the tank than some think but he will have to prove it. Nice to see us spend the 6-7.
mets1536
He was DONE LAST YEAR with a PHILLIES TEAM THAT DESPERATELY NEEDED PITCHING
rememberthecoop
Why are you shouting?
Dumpster Divin Theo
People from Philly LIKE TO SHOUT. Just before they throw snowballs at Santa and head to the airport to boo takeoffs and landings.
The Natural
Jake got blown up in ne outing last year vs the Braves. Take that out and he had a decent year. Check the game logs
VonPurpleHayes
@cubfever unfortunately it was the best stint of his tenure in Philly.
User 355748524
I don’t know…he might have BEEN INJURED WHICH COULD HAVE AFFECTED HIS PERFORMANCE ON THE MOUND
DarkSide830
they’re trying to cut payroll and then do this?
chicagofan1978
They were given the green light to add some salary
cubs2016
Exactly. Not sure of what people expect them to do? They can sneak into the playoffs. Not saying they have a chance. Just saying.
rememberthecoop
I don’t know what they are trying to do. Trying to remain competitive while cutting payroll (and not like most teams due to the pandemic, this started 2 years before) is not a good combo.
northsidecrossrifles
It appears they’re trying to retool on the fly like the yankees did in 2016. Improve the farm, remain competitive, and then see how the market is in 2022 with the epic FA class and tons of payroll flexibility. Some would call it threading the needle, but I actually don’t mind the approach. No one will run away with the central this yr, so they’ll see how the team performs in the first couple of months, and go from there. No sense in going all in with the dodgers and pads looking like powerhouses, and the braves and mets being better than them as well. Hell, the phillies, nats, and marlins are decent too.
raisinsss
Pax to Mets then?
slidepiece
That’d be a better signing that what the cubbies just did.
tom brunanskys black sock
Burgers and brats without avocados????
Baseball boy
Amazing deal. Arrieta has a 2.73 Era with teh Cubs isn’t that insane
VonPurpleHayes
Yea. That ERA is about to skyrocket. That man isn’t what he used to be, but I’m still a fan. Good clubhouse presence.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Skyrocket in flight. Afternoon delight.
bobtillman
The Mets and Blue Jays were “in on” Arrieta.
windycitykid89
Welcome back home, Jake!
BigDaddyB
If he can bottle the good starts he had with the Phillies, and somehow forget to just leave his pitches right down the middle, he may be okay… But he really did look bad with the Phillies except for a once in every 5 starts pitching okay.
Dumpster Divin Theo
If he can record all the times the batter attemps to swing and then misses, and somehow allow the official score keeper to delete any incidence of the bat making connection with the ball and said connection being hard contact, he may be okay
Cohens_Wallet
Hope this means the Mets have a nice trick up Cohen’s sleeve. Would love to see one more big move while understanding how unrealistic it is to get EVERY player we want.
Nice pickup by the Cubs, they know what he is and what he brings. He’s not great anymore but he doesn’t have to be.
raisinsss
Hoping walker but probably Paxton
Cohens_Wallet
I’m hoping for a bigger trade where we take on money for the better player but I’m with you, definitely hope it isn’t Paxton.
Larry David's Joe Pepitone Jersey
I feel like I’m missing something with Walker, I don’t see much upside there.
citizen
No!
lindle368
How does this man keep stealing money from mlb clubs he is garbage
Ryanemery8
Your comment and opinions are garbage…..jus sayin
Catuli Carl
Yes the Cy Young, World Series winning all star with two no-hitters and a career ERA in the 3s is garbage. Right.
Dumpster Divin Theo
I liked Fergie Jenkins as a kid too. Good times!
Pete'sView
Watch that HR/9 number jump.
Dumpster Divin Theo
When you say jump, Jake asks “how high?”
PhilliesBob1980
CBP got into his head. Glad he’s gone. Middleton should ask for his $75M back.
brian214
I knew it wasn’t going to happen, but thank God almighty he won’t be back in Philly.
Dumpster Divin Theo
After the way they treated his college buddy Santa, imaging God almighty would be grateful not to have to go back to Philly.
99 Captain Judge
Shucks, I was hoping he was going to sign with Dunedin’s Finest.
Cardinal
Wish Cards obtained Arrieta. Great 4th or 5th starter, innings eater (should be) and a veteran in the club house.
Moneyballer
I think you’re better off going against him.
cubfanforever
Would have preferred Cubs pursue Paxton if he’s healthy. The Jake ship has sailed.
Dumpster Divin Theo
A reckless waste of money after crying poor and giving away Yu. If the Cubs wanted to do a teardown rebuild, fine, then go all in. Seems like a cynical attempt to curry fan favor by bringing in a fa)n favorite. Hoyer surely can’t believe that Cub fans are that stupid, can he?
northsidecrossrifles
Its more of selling an injury prone starter whose contract was under water at this time last yr while he’s still owed 60 plus million and is about to turn 35 for 4 young 1st-2nd round rated prospects while shedding long term payroll commitments; thus putting the team in a better position to see how their players on expiring deals perform, as well as allowing them to allocate more resources toward the epic 2022 FA class while remaining competitive in what should be the weakest division in baseball.
There are at least 4 teams in the NL (and possibily more) who are clearly better than the cubs. Even with Darvish, the chances they make any noise in the playoffs was slim. Arrieta is just another low risk roll of dice that doesn’t kill them long term. If they had a better roster with future control ala the white sox, then I’e hate what they’re doing. But this “retool” seems to make the most sense given the variables influencing their situation
Dumpster Divin Theo
If that’s the case northside I see your point. Then go all in and don’t expend 6 mill on a 1 yr nostalgia trip. Get something for KB, bunker down and try to finish 5th, collect a nice draft pick, then resurface a la the Golden st Warriors. Its not like they’ll suffer too much at the gate anyways: no ones going, at least initially, and the pink hatred fans won’t notice anyways when crowds eventually (hopefully) return.
northsidecrossrifles
To be honest, I’m hoping the cards run away with the division and the reds and brewers outperform expectations with the cub’s core hitters all having good years so several of them can be moved at the deadline for a nice haul of prospects. If Davies, Arrieta, Kimbrel, and any of their hurlers on one year deals perform well, they should net a few decent prospects as well. I just don’t see this cubs team as they’re currently constructed being able to do damage in the playoffs. The last 3 years has proven this. There is definitely talent, but a retool is necessary.
Though I appreciate Theo for his work in bringing home the 2016 world series, there were some questionable trades made during his tenure. That, along with the cub’s general risk aversion in the draft has hurt them. I was pushing for them to draft Nate Pearson, Mike Soroka, and other high risk/high reward arms, but instead they drafted passively. I personally appreciate Hoyer’s current strategy of pursuing talented, albeit super young players. Its certainly risky, but over the last decade and a half the cubs have contributed to pumping out so many useful position players across baseball that I have some faith they can mold the position players they obtained in the Darvish deal. They had access to SD data sharing as part of the MLB minor league data opt in due to covid and hand selected these kids. The reports at fangraphs were also much more positive, seeing as their head prospect guy scouted 3/4 during the covid instructs and he had great things to say.
I think the sox should pursue KB at the deadline. With the Dh and KB’s positional flexibility (corner OF and corner IF), even with injuries and resting players the sox would roll out an absolute murderers row on a daily basis (as constructed now its still an envious lineup even with Andrew Vaughn still in the minors). The level of insanely quality depth that would give them for a deep playoff run push could put them over the top.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Agree with this. Still think the Cubs could still eke out the NL central even with suspect pitching. But better in the long run if they improve draft position while they reload. Would be nice if the Cubs hit on one or more of the lotto tickets since the Pods made out like bandits with Tatis. Agree that a KB trade to the South Side would be a significant win/win, especially if the Sox reup KB. Then Bryzzo would have to become a Sox fan ha!
mr. g
Reuniting with Rich Hill would have been a better deal. Maybe Paxton is still in the cards.
northsidecrossrifles
Possibly. Hill hasn’t really been durable. When healthy, he’s provided quality innings. But at 41 when the season starts, there’s ton of risk. Though at roughly half the price, there could be merit to that move. Its just hard to trust a guy whose only crossed the 130 inning threshold twice since returning to the Majors. Paxton is definitely the signing I wanted, though I don’t hate the Arrieta deal at 6 mil. When Chris Archer and Drew Smyly are getting more cash, there isn’t a lot of downside to this
Moneyballer
That’s a lot of cheddar for someone who kinda failed his last few years.
chicagofan1978
See Chris Archer
paindonthurt
^
iml12
I think drew smyly killed any chance of getting value on sp. Thanks Atlanta
Dumpster Divin Theo
Thinking the Cubs bid against themselves on this one.
chicagofan1978
It was reported he was offered more money elsewhere and he chose the Cubs
iml12
Multiple higher offers per Heyman
classicmixup
Typical post from this guy — no facts
Bryzzo4417!
People are acting like they are bringing him in to be the ace of the staff. They aren’t. Hendricks holds that role, they need Jake to be a 4-5 starter, eat innings, and keep games winnable. He’s posted numbers that suggest he can still do that. Does it hurt he’s a fan favorite? No, it doesn’t. People on here just seriously love being miserable.
Black Ace57
I’m glad Arrieta is gone. Dude didn’t perform in Philly and was quick to blame everyone but himself for the lack of success.
wright1970
Lol Metsfan22 lives rent free in a lot of posters heads these days!! Priceless
Franco27
Despite the constant negativity in the comments, as a cubs fan, i’m looking forward to the season. Unless they have a ton of injuries, they will absolutely be competitive in their division.
Mjshof
UCLA would be competitive in that division
Dumpster Divin Theo
Given the mental gymnastics on display by management and fans in that division , by Jeeves, yes- UCLA would be quite competitive. Gymnastics powerhouse they are.
mike127
For all of you not in Chicago——there are suppose to be record low temperatures this weekend in the city. The Cubs keenly timed this signing just so White Sox fans would have something to do tonight and over the weekend instead of being outside licking and getting their tongues stuck to light poles. And, in all honestly, it didn’t have to be a Jake Arrieta story—-a minor league reunion deal with Bryan LaHair would have served the same purpose.
chicagofan1978
Ok that’s funny. And I am a Sox fan. I’m sure as heck not going outside
Dumpster Divin Theo
More like they did this to bottle up Mets and Cards fans. Have you seen that? Like cats and dogs
Curveball1984
Ehh… not horrible, but it’s an overpay. $4.5M MAX is what he should’ve gotten paid. He only really deserved a minor league deal.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Cubs had to pony up. Afraid of getting outbid by Ryan Pace.
CardsFan77
Since this became a Mets/Cards debate lol I’ll offer this… The Mets absolutely are headed in the right direction. They can finally spend their loads of money in a positive way based on being a big market team. Good for them. Now about the Cards… Whatever about the splits, the Cards stole the best 3rd baseman of his generation and maybe ever from the Rox and the got a ton of $ to boot. For a small market team to pull that off is kind of amazing considering there is literally no big market or small market team that wouldn’t love to see Arenado occupying their 3rd base position. So STFU. Also Mr. MET… I remember a certain curve ball from a certain pitcher that ended your certain season… Anything can happen that’s the glory of it
Dumpster Divin Theo
Cue the Deliverance music.
TomL
“I’m BACK!”
CardsFan77
On a side note lol alot of cubbie fans laughed when the Cards resigned Waino… I get it, over the hill, done, toast… But somehow this arietta signing makes sense?
PutPeteinthehall
Both signings make sense. Wainwright is a very effective pitcher. Even at 39. Cubs had two holes in rotation. If Jake is healthy there is no reason to not believe he can’t be a decent 4th starter for them. He”s sucked everywhere else he’s pitched. I’d expect a rebound and a 13-10 season out of him. Expect an average of 5 2/3 per start.
Android Dawesome
I dont really remember a lot of Cubs fans laughing about the Wainwright signing. But I’ll go with your premise. I dont speak for all Cubs fans but the reason I found it telling was because we have heard about the Cardinals depth for years. To me it says they don’t have much confidence in it.
609Collectibles
Klentak whiffed on just about every free agent pitcher they shelled out money to.
CardsFan77
You can absolutely take Lindor over Arenado. We won’t mention the last 8 gold gloves or the 4 platinum gloves or the offense. The point is, Arenado has done it better for longer… He may fail. He might be better. None of us know. I’ll guarantee you this. Arenado is a CARDINAL! Lindor to this point is a pricey rental
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Not a bad signing.
YourDreamGM
Hoyer doing a fantastic job.
Chitown7
As a 69 year life long Cubs fan all I can say is: Brutal! This organization has sold out its fan base…
Franco27
You’re apparently a clueless cubs fan, or more like a trolling Sox fan.
paindonthurt
Say what?
Dumpster Divin Theo
Seriously. Makes no baseball sense. Dump Darvish for almost nothing while crying poor, and then throw money at a retread. Are the Cubs intentionally trying to end up a 78-81 win, middle market team ? Pick a lane already.
CFS77
Ricketts loosened his pockets and Jed spent what he has to work with. I believe this is a precursor to a Mets trade. Mets will need a SP and the Cubs have Hendricks and Davies that they can deal now.
Darvish was about selling high. You never know what he will do this year. Cubs got system depth out of it. Davies could also be flipped but if Jed wants a bigger return then pack Hendricks and Bryant together for J.C. Davis Ronny Mauricio and Cano’s final 2 years. Mets might do this to free up cash to resign Bryant and Lindor. Cubs need cheaper options at 3B and SS. Cano could move to 1B if they let Rizzo walk also.
Marty McRae
Wishing all the fine fans who love to use the word “overpay” when describing players salaries a fine evening tonight.
It’s always really cool to see how deep down, the game is about how you care more about a billionaire saving money, than a pro athlete who’s career definitely ends at 40 and therefore is trying to scrape every last penny he can from the game, a game he made 1000x more value to the monolith of MLB than he ever got paid. You -want- the billionaire to win that battle, just great! You hate pro baseball players, yet you love the game—why?
But I’m so glad your front office wins its owner the gold medal at the billionaire olympics every year, so cool. Way better than a bat flip, oh and by the way, Jed Lowrie deserved every last cent the Mets paid him. Why do so many fans think that 1 year = 1 = season = 1 money? These are cumulative efforts on both player and owner, but owner can own forever, and every time he gets to pay minimum wage over anything more than that, he saves money.
This is what we’ve been reduced to as fans, caring about this. We can’t even identify most of the owners faces, but their control goes so deep into the fan’s psyche, now fans think “what salary is on baseball-reference = what he has in his bank account” never talking about taxes, agent fees, divorces etc. Actually that “40M” on baseball-reference can also mean $3M in real life, for the rest of their families lives, which means basically one big accident away from being broke. MLB never markets its players anymore like it used to do in the 90s, and combined with the blackouts on tv, no one knows who Mike Trout even is or what he looks like, when in any other decade he’d have been on every tv show by now and every kid would be worshipping him. It feels like the games soul has regressed. Remember the “turn forward the clock” days in the 90s? Where’s the future of the game? There’s been absolutely no innovation and nothing done to make the players look cool, or like celebrities like they used to. Instead most players are hated more than beloved these days, thanks to brutal social media, a hugely-misused tool. Why are fans so hateful of players, by the way? I would love to see any every player get $100M, why don’t you? Figure that out for me, k?
Have a good evening, everyone.
Dumpster Divin Theo
This post is long in the tooth. But right on
Hammerin' Hank
Yeah, well said. A lot of fans are simply jealous of the money the players make. But you don’t hear nearly as many people complaining about actors, comedians, and musicians making all their millions.
1984wasntamanual
Probably because this is a baseball website.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Yeah. What’s the deal with Sinbad. I don’t get him. At all.
Curveball1984
You get what you earn pal. Jake Arrieta is NOT worth $6M. Frankly none of them are, but I understand market value and am very pro player when it comes to that. I don’t tune in to watch billionaires. But Arrieta is a minor leaguer at the point in his career. Period. Good for him he got a major league deal. Very happy for him and his family — BUT IT IS AN OVERPAY. He knows it, I know it, Boras knows it. That doesn’t make me jelly. I could care less. But stating the obvious that he’s making MORE than he’s worth isn’t jealously or billionaire loyalty — it’s a fact of life. If they paid Maddog that in 2004 to comeback for a farewell tour, I would’ve said the same thing. And I LOVE Greg Maddux. One of my favorite Cubs ever.
babybears
In pervious years and this one, 6 million is mid reliever money. And at 1 year? what does it hurt to bring him in for 1 year?
Mikel Grady
Please refer to him as World Series champion Jake Arrieta. Go Cubs
Dumpster Divin Theo
And so is Joe Carter
Curveball1984
huh?
Ry.the.Stunner
OUt of all the examples you could’ve used, you used Joe Carter, who had a pretty decent career?
CardsFan77
Seriously… How are the cubs poor? Huge market team… Can you imagine giving the Rays a 200 mil payroll???? OMG. Or billy beane or even the Cards… “Hey, spend as much as you want just bring home a championship” well the Cubbies did once and now they are imploding… Any team that trades Darvish and resigns Arrieta at this moment is sad.they should do Rizzo, Wilson, Baez, and Bryant a favor and trade them all to a winning team so they can actually at least sniff another ring in their careers and then they can rival the pirates
Franco27
Go away cardinals troll. The cubs will be just fine. Can’t wait to play the overrated cardinals.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Everyone’s a troll to this clown. Hope you enjoy being mired in mediocrity for the next little while. You’ll have plenty of time for tantrums.
iml12
The cardinals had a 180 + million dollar payroll last year and get a competitive balance pick. What on earth are you talking about imagine the cardinals with a 200 million dollar payroll?
PutPeteinthehall
Spent a ton on revitalizing an ancient park and it’s surroundings. Gave up a monster TV deal to start their own network. Then had zero gate revenue and zero revenue out of the attractions they invested in outside the park. I’d highly doubt the new network is generating more money that what they were getting from Their previous tv deal. Is it a crime to want to be under the luxury tax? Where they screwed up was not giving Bryant his walking papers. 19.5 million would have gotten them a few decent players.
northsidecrossrifles
Its the over 1.1 billion the Ricketts had to spend on the wrigley renos and surrounding area, as well as the payments they’re still making when they purchased the team from the Tribune Co. Unlike other owners, they received no help from the city (Chicago has subsidized renos for the white sox, as well as largely paying for Soldier Field). The Cubs even paid the city large sums in fees and rezoning, which contributed to the project costing 100s of millions more than originally anticipated. At the end of the day, like or not this is a business and it needs to be operated as such.
The fact is that the team currently has over 153 mil in payroll; which isn’t exactly penny pinching. With the division still weak, why not spread Darvish’s 20 mil AAV around into 1 yr deals while giving yourself more payroll flexibility for the stacked upcoming 2022 FA class? We’re talking about a team with 3 core players on expiring contracts, and a massive sum of money coming off the books. If you can trade a talented, yet injury prone pitcher who turns 35 this season for 4 young prospects who rate as 1st-2nd round draft picks while shedding 60 mil of payroll for an aging volatile asset, I think it makes sense seeing as there are at least 4 teams in the NL who are clearly better than the cubs in 2021. Even with Darvish, their chances at getting far in the playoffs weren’t great, and that’s if they made the playoffs.
Overall, it makes more since to push more chips in next yr when they have a better idea about their future roster, as well as their farm system, and their network is up and running with revenue streaming in.
edit: I think it makes sense for the cards to push more chips in this year with the cubs appearing to tread water and stay in “roll the dice” mode, while the brew crew and reds have done little to improve
Dumpster Divin Theo
This.
terry g
I find it amusing that the Cubs sign a player and most of the comments are Cards vs the Mets haha
Dumpster Divin Theo
Fear this is gonna end really really badly. Feel sorry for Grandpa Rossy. He’s prolly going, I didn’t sign up for this. I could be doing the Foxtrot. Boy the Cub pitching could really suck this season.
Franco27
You really suck at trolling.
Mjshof
Your mom says hi
drasco036
Interesting off season by Chicago, that is for sure.
I’m really intrigued by Pederson hitting against lefties, he crushed them in the minors and never got an opportunity to face them in majors. It was a smart move by Hoyer swapping Schwarber for Pederson.
I like each individual move by the Cubs rotation-wise but I’m not overly confident about how it will perform all together… a rotation of fliers.
I’d be curious to see things from the Cubs front office perspective and to be privy to the insider conversations about how the season schedule will look. I see the Cubs adding a lot of depth at starter… do they expect the season to start later with less off days again and going with a six man rotation?
Dumpster Divin Theo
Was it really a coherent front office plan? Or as many Cubs faithful see it, the puzzling by product of a noncommittal ownership group that first mandated cross the board cost cutting (letting Yu, Shwarb, and Lester walk) and now belatedly throwing some money to undo the unrelrnting negative PR flack they’ve received locally? Don’t think scribes like Paul Sullivan, Gordon Wittenmeyer, and the analysts at their flagship station or the true Cubs faithful are that naive or stupid to be distracted by the Jake signing. And I’m a big Jake fan (bought the jersey for a big Cub fan friend) in 16.
Katahdan
As a Cubs fan, it sucks seeing directionless moves coming out of the front office. With Bryant and Baez expiring, coupled with a weakening pitching staff and bullpen, they’re going to be winning 75-85 wins at-best, and I’d lean on the former. They might as well usher in the rebuild sooner rather than later.
These are the sorts of moves the Orioles make. Hoping he generates some trade interest, but I doubt it.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Seriously, if they’re going to reboot, as they signaled by trading Yu for a few scratch off intl signings, why expend $6 mill on an aging relic? They’re going to try and flip Jake how? Pick a lane. Don’t be stuck in the middle like the Rangers, Angels or daresay Orioles.
Cubsforever22
Lol we we’re cutting his contract for Davies plus the 5 lotto. I hated it but we have only added since then. Not done yet ownership just upped payroll some last cpl weeks. We’re not poor we’re rich, owner wants to go to like 150 from 220 last cpl years. It suks but we’re gonna do it abd hopefully be Back around at least 200 again. We shall see
Cubsforever22
Javy and Rizzo will be signed kb walks or is traded. We’re good mny wise already but deff next year almost nothing on the books coming up. Our sp will be better than what a lot think. Added we add to it next year abd into the future. Our same staff minus Yu pitched us in great shape last year. Besides Yu gone I’d argue our top 5-6 is way better against the departures. Q no starts Charwood 2-3 early back problems Lester and alozay 5 but all were nice esp last 3. Mills Davies Jake Trevor Williams maybe Miller steele Marquez stil a year away imho from rotation. I like that group across the board much better than last year.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Cubsforever hope for your sake your optimism is well placed but they’re playing with fire rolling out 3 other guys who profile like Kyle, soft tossers- and a dearth of lefties. And not sure where they’re going with all the reclamation projects and low ceiling/high floor utility players.
Cubsforever22
No I don’t disagree there are huge question marks I just don’t see how taken as a whole the staff isn’t at least as good as last years performed. I also am buying big bounce Back years from Javy Rizzo willy maybe kb. Ppl forget we won the division handily last year with two guys really hitting. So yea u can say I’m optimistic there but numbers also back it up
Dumpster Divin Theo
Hope you’re right. Would be cool to see two Chicago teams in the playoffs and actually both advance a round. 2020 just like 2008, Sox win one- Cubs one and done.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Careful Kata, by engaging in insightful introspection youre liable to hurt the feelings of Davro the troll slayer. Beware his wrath
Franco27
Time to change your name brainiac.
mumsy01
As Mets fan very happy Arietta is a Cub. Always in great shape just lost velocity and movement.
Agree Mets could come in first or last for that matter. Bench is bad. Nicole, Villarreal, Almoravid
mhsaltz1963
As a Phillies fan, I can honestly say he sucks both on and off the field. The Cubs are throwing away a ridiculous amount of money for a pitcher who is cooked.
htbnm57
Another Phillies fan here. This seems like a huge overpay. Evidently Cubs management is remembering his time early with the Cubs because he has regressed for 5 years in a row and was horrible the last two years.
1984wasntamanual
I don’t think it’s that hard to imagine him being about 0.5 Drew Smylys
PutPeteinthehall
Overpay? 6 million over 1 or 14 million over 2 years. Gausman got QO from Giants. Kluber got 11 million for one year and hasn’t pitched in two years. Only has success in Cubs uniform. Maybe will stink it up in Chicago this year. However contract at 6 million is half of Kluber and 1/3 of Gausman. Has potential to be better than both in 2021.
philsphan1979
As a Phillies fan I cannot explain how happy I am that he is no longer on the team. He stunk! Was overpaid, and was a cancer to the entire team. What a waste of money and air. Worst contract in the history of Philadelphia sports history. Nobody in the history of this city has ever got 30 mil for one season…except Arrieta. What a joke
1984wasntamanual
Aren’t the sixers paying multiple people 30m?
BruntlettSupastar
As a Phillies fan, thank you for all that you have given us. Thank you Cubs’ front office.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Ryne Sandberg says hi. How’s Ivan Dejesus?
ipuritani
You had to go back, how many years for that example? If you’re into irrelevent ancient history why not throw in Ferguson Jenkins..
BruntlettSupastar
By all means, hire Ryne as your next Manager.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Zing. Ok that one hurt. Ipuritani is a great screen name. Loved Anna Netrebko doing her mad scene
phillyballers
The return of tight pants
Dumpster Divin Theo
As a Santa, is it safe for me to be out here on this turf? Lot of fans from Philly appear to be out and I hear that..”hey Kid, put that down. That’s snow and when packed together it can…yeeow!”
solaris602
Thank God they signed Arrieta instead of Samarzdija. Watching Shark pitch was always brutal to some degree, but Jake has a legit shot at being a solid member of the rotation.
Curveball1984
Shark, like Cashner, should’ve been in the bullpen years ago.
cubfanforever
I would rather have Jenkins.
As in Ferguson.
DarrenDreifortsContract
He still owes Zack Greinke that 2015 CY Young award.
Curveball1984
No… he doesn’t. If anything Max S. owes his Cy Young in 2016 to Jon Lester.
oldtimer
This not a move I expected from an organization that is in money saving mode! Could have gotten three pitchers for what they are paying Jake. Those three would very possibly have been of equal or better quality.
Ry.the.Stunner
I don’t know any three decent arms on the market that they could’ve gotten for $2M a piece.
Mikel Grady
Love the Mets fans on here . Arrieta is a one year deal . Hey isn’t Bobby Bonilla day just around the corner 🙂
kenly0
I don’t hate it. But, I would’ve preferred if they brought back Lester and/or Quintana. Their top 6 starters are all right handers. I was hoping maybe Paxton.
Cubsforever22
If u watched any cubs baseball last cpl seasons but esp last year, Q didn’t make a start nor any impact last year well really last 2 years no impact. I love Lester to death but he will get they 6 inn relatively well abd then follow that up with getting blown up esp against teams that crush lefty’s. Jake has far more potential upside abd stuff lefty. Needs to stay healthy but if we can get his control in check he can be quite effective.
Pax vobiscum
He certainly liked to throw his teammates under the bus.
Deadguy
Metsfan22 cause Cardinals fans pay attention, and know. Don’t worry the Mets might win a championship with Lindor. He didn’t bring one to Cleveland though so keep that in mind. Baseball is about winning championships, not who spends the most Money, just ask the Yankees?
natescubs
Bone Spurs are gone, hamstring is good jake Is a beast let’s go
GarryHarris
Who started Kris Bryant to the Mets rumors: Mets fans or Cubs fans?