The Yankees have announced that they have acquired Frankie Montas and Lou Trivino from the Athletics. In exchange, the Athletics will receive pitchers JP Sears, Ken Waldichuk and Luis Medina, as well as second baseman Cooper Bowman.
Next to Luis Castillo and Tyler Mahle, Montas has been seen as one of the better starting pitchers available at the trade deadline. The Yankees had been connected to Castillo, but he was traded to the Mariners in recent days. The Yanks evidently turned their attentions to Montas in order to satisfy their desire for boosting their rotation.
Montas has been a solid member of Oakland’s rotation for years, first establishing himself in 2018. Despite a down year in 2020, Montas still owns a career 3.73 ERA with a 24.8% strikeout rate, 7.8% walk rate and 43.5% ground ball rate. Just looking at what he’s done since the start of the 2021 season, he’s been on an even better level, logging a 3.30 ERA, 26.3% strikeout rate, 7.1% walk rate and 44% grounder rate. He’s been worth 6.1 wins above replacement in that time, according to FanGraphs.
Despite being a solid performer, Montas has seemed like an inevitable trade candidate for quite some time now. As the 2021 season finished and the offseason began, the A’s were widely reported to be planning a massive sell-off of any player making a significant salary and/or approaching free agency. Montas was frequently cited among the trade candidates, next to Chris Bassitt, Sean Manaea, Matt Olson and Matt Chapman. Those four latter names were all moved between this winter’s lockout and the beginning of the season, but Montas stayed. He’s making just over $5MM this season, making him the cheapest of that group, but he only has one further season of club control remaining. Given that the A’s aren’t likely to return to competition in that time, it made sense to make him available to other clubs.
The Yankees have been incredibly healthy in terms of their rotation this year, with their front five of Gerrit Cole, Jameson Taillon, Nestor Cortes, Jordan Montgomery and Luis Severino all staying healthy for the first three-plus months of the season. As such, the rotation as a whole has logged 567 innings, the third-most in the majors, while also posting a 3.37 ERA that’s third in the league. However, Severino landed on the IL a couple of weeks ago with shoulder tightness. While he’s been out, Domingo German has made two starts but has an 8.22 ERA in those. When Montas reports to the team, he will likely bump German back to the minors or a long-relief role. If Severino can get back on the mound while everyone else is still healthy, the Yanks might have to make a tough decision about to fit everyone into the mix, but that would be a good problem to have in the future.
The Yankees weren’t content to merely upgrade their rotation, however, also adding Trivino into the bullpen, their second such addition of the day, following their earlier acquisition of Scott Effross. Yankee fans might see Trivino’s 6.47 ERA and scoff, but there’s actually more to like under the hood. Trivino’s been the victim of a .451 batting average on balls in play, despite that number being around .250 in the two previous seasons. His 28.7% strikeout rate and 52.3% ground ball rates on the year are both career highs while his 8.9% walk rate is a career low. As such, all of the advanced metrics feel that batted ball luck is masking his true talents, with Trivino currently sporting a 4.29 xERA, 3.84 FIP, 2.92 xFIP and 2.89 SIERA. He’s making a modest $3MM salary this year and can be retained via arbitration for another two seasons.
The Yankees’ bullpen seemed unstoppable for much of the season but has since hit some snags. Chad Green required Tommy John surgery and won’t be back this year. Michael King is also done for the year after suffering an elbow fracture. The once-untouchable Aroldis Chapman has struggled since coming off the IL. Clay Holmes, who seemed to replace Chapman as the unhittable monster in the bullpen, has also come back down to earth in recent weeks. With the additions of Effross and Trivino, the Yankees have given themselves some extra options for late-game duty.
The A’s have already completely remade their system this year with the aforementioned trades of Bassitt, Manaea, Olson and Chapman, and this deal will allow them to bring in four more fresh faces. The highlight of the bunch is probably Waldichuk, 24, who is enjoying a tremendous breakout season. Selected by the Yankees in the fifth round in 2019, he has split his time this year between Double-A and Triple-A. In 17 starts between the two levels, he’s thrown 76 1/3 innings with a 2.71 ERA and incredible 36.5% strikeout rate. The 10.4% walk rate is a little above-average, but there’s still plenty to be excited about in that performance. The southpaw was recently ranked the #5 prospect in the Yankees’ system by Baseball America.
Sears, 26, came in 20th on that same list at BA. He made his MLB debut this year and has looked good so far, notching a 2.05 ERA in his first 22 big league innings. He’s only gotten strikeouts at an 18.1% clip in that time, but is much better at getting punchouts in the minors. In 43 Triple-A innings this year, he has a 1.67 ERA with a 33.7% strikeout rate, along with a 4.3% walk rate.
Medina, 23, has also been considered one of the top Yankee prospects by BA, oscillating between the #7 and #11 spot from 2018 to the present. He’s made 17 starts in Double-A this year, throwing 72 innings with a 3.38 ERA, 50.9% ground ball rate, 26.4% strikeout rate, but a high 13% walk rate.
As for Bowman, he’s the most long-term play among the new Athletics, as he’s just 22 years old and was just drafted last year, being selected in the fourth round. He’s played 80 games in High-A this year, putting up a line of .217/.343/.355 while playing second base and shortstop.
While the A’s are ramping up for the future, the Yankees are loading up for right now. Their 69-34 record is the best in the American League and only percentage points behind the Dodgers for best in the majors. In recent days, they’ve bolstered their lineup by adding Andrew Benintendi, added Montas to their rotation and Effross and Trivino to their bullpen. Though there’s still about 24 hours until the trade deadline for them to make further moves, they’ve clearly cemented themselves as one of the strongest teams this year.
With Castillo and Montas now both off the market, teams looking for rotation upgrades will likely turn their attentions to Tyler Mahle. Teams like the Cardinals, Twins, Padres and Blue Jays have been connected to Montas in recent days, with those clubs now likely to pivot to Mahle or other arms.
Jack Curry of the YES Network reported the particulars of the deal before the official announcement (Twitter links).
Images courtesy of USA Today Sports.
Per Nightengale so nope
Bad trade, both sides.
No, it’s a great trade for Oakland.
Does your friend know what she’s doing on the computer?
I’m sure this trade will get the juices flowing in a’s fans everywhere (both of them!)
For Sears, Waldichuk, Bowman and Medina per Jack Curry Twitter.
No Peraza? That would be an enormous win for the Yankees if he was held out of the deal.
No. Waldichuk is a bigger loss to the Yanks than Peraza.
perraza is not that great. Volpe is the better prospect
Shows what you know….Peraza could start at SS for many teams right now….the only question, as with many players crossing over from the minors is how his bat will play at such a young age……..more back room GM”S in the know with these types of comments.
No team is interested in Pereza
Volpe is still a year and a half away. He righted the ship at AA — but be real, he’s still hitting all of .253. And he’ll be facing tougher pitching next year at Scranton (AAA).
The bigger question is how many Waldichuks can a Waldichuk chuk?
based on what?
good, I would rather see him start over Torres or IKF right now
based on what? your ignorance of bsseball?
Rocky, you’re too funny. Just about every MLB has a “SS prospect that could start right now” in MLB if only they could hit their weight.
And you have to punctuate your silly statement with “shows what you know”.
Just about every MLB *team
I have an idea how about you let the baseball people worry about that and you concentrate on eating the PB&J sandwich with the crusts cut off that your mom just put down in front of you. How about that?
@jolink65- yes, now the Yankees can take Dominguez, Peraza, Sweeney, Pereira, Schmidt or German and trade for that beast of a player, Juan Soto
I can’t believe people are evaluating minor league players (in 2022) by batting average…
Top rated, and still underrated comment.
You have definite dad potential in you.
Yeah, getting base hits means you suck now. Next level genius.
Top, do you really need a list of Mlb stars that didn’t hit for a high average in the minors? Or are you too busy tracking RBI’s?
Actually, Volpe is hitting .300 after an awful start to the year. The .253 average is deceiving because he was hitting in the mid-100s for the first month or so, but he’s been hitting well, since then. 15 HRs & .300 average, with a ton of stolen bases.
A lot of minor leaguers, like a lot of MLB hitters, got off to horrible starts this year because of the disruption in the start of spring training. Peraza (at AAA) got off to an awful start, much like Volpe, but he’s been hot since & raised his average from the mid-100s to .250+ with 14 HRs.
So, don’t right off Volpe or Peraza, ctyank7.
One guy you can write off is Devi Garcia. I saw him pitch Tuesday (8-2-22) against the Mets AA team, and he was AWFUL. He looks totally lost on the mounds, and his command was atrocious. And he got hit very hard.
Good deal for Yanks. Although Waldichuk is moving up the prospect ranks.
I think he’s the one I’m going to miss most. We all loved watching Waldi
Yeah, I was looking forward to them maybe calling him up at some point, but I was more concerned about losing Peraza. I also liked Sears too, but for what they got I think it’s a great deal for both teams.
He is a backend guy at best,
I thought you’d miss the scarecrow most of all…
Another terrible trade by A’s GM Frost. The guy has traded away almost the entire team and only received 1 good prospect out of his 5 trades. Again trading for A ball players years away. Also for more pitching when they need hitters. Trivino was a throw in to save the A’s money. Knowing how cheap the A’s are they probably took a lesser player to save the money on Trivino contract.
Frost got max value. I give him a A. After seeing what arms are fetching I don’t blame him for trading for them!
And they have the nerve to ask the City of Oakland to build a stadium for them. The Mayor should give a big “middle finger salute”.
That is absolutely NOT a good deal for the Yankees.
Yeah I hate it when team owners pay for their own stadiums.
I’m happy they didn’t trade Peraza, but Montas scares me. Never trust A’s pitchers.
+1 for the Wizard of Oz reference
I wouldn’t say terrible but still not particularly happy with it. I dunno why they’re so into those bulk mid quality prospect deals, it didn’t work with Donaldson or Hudson and I’m not particularly confident of the Chapman return. Bassitt also went for a pretty low cost, really only happy with the Olson trade.
I mean, don’t take them when they’re clearly getting worse? Zito and Gray were both performing badly when we traded them. Montas is doing great but he does have injury concerns.
Agreed, although montas is a stud Trevino is a below mediocre wildcard. He hasn’t been good in years. Lots of non competitive pitches.
A far better return than the previous A’s/yanks gray deal for A’s. 3 arms the A’s received have promise. Don’t know about the young position player. Happy w this return for the A’s overall. Gotta get a murphy deal done next.
It’s funny out of these prospects traded I will definitely miss Luis Medina the most. Medina was hitting 103 miles per hour with his fastball this season, his arm is like a cannon.
What does Beane do with Frost?
@vinc3nt3- the A’s got to get out of Oakland and move to Las Vegas, to save their franchise somehow.
@wackymacky- why is that? Please explain.
@Bright Side- I’m more worried about his shoulder. Montas has a much stronger arm then Sonny Gray. Frankie throws a lot of power sinkers also to help keep the ball in the park at Yankee Stadium.
I’ll root for a Yankee prospect, but odds are he’ll never amount to anything close to Montas. When you have a team like the Yankees do this year, this is when you buy. They have played it right for years now, not going all in when their teams weren’t playing great. This is the year to do it. I want to see them make one more big move. I’d give our top 5-7 remaining prospects for Soto. No one in the Yankee system has a chance to be that good. Get Soto now and sign him.
although his offense was inconsistent, Jorge Mateo is ranked 1 or 2 in defensive runs saved this season.
Completely agree
And the rich get richer…should have kept funky cold Medina…
Wow
Hey Cardinals Fans!!!!! The President of the Cardinals Baseball team is doing his normal Summer Fling.
Throwing out a load of All-Star names they are involve in trying to trading for.
Cardinals will not get any creditable players at the deadline.
John Mozeliak likes the money the Cardinals pay him———- He just doesn’t want to work to earn it! Bb
You know what happened. DeJong and Corey “Juan Soto” Dickerson went deep yesterday and Pallante pitched 8 scoreless against a juggernaut like the Nats so obviously we don’t need to make a move. I bet Mo was dancing around his office in nothing but a bow tie screaming “I WAS RIGHT! I WAS RIGHT!”
They’re gonna get Pablo Lopez so I wouldnt worry too much about it.
NY picked up a really good SP
top 20
A top 120, maybe:
Montas’ Home ERA is 2.63 in 2022 & 3.28 for his career.
Montas’ Away ERA is 4.85 (!) in 2022 & 4.29 for his career.
How do you think that 4.85 ERA is going to play in the Bronx.
If the Yankees played all of their playoff games in the Oakland Grand Canyon, Montas would be a top 20; otherwise, outside of Oakland, he’s basically a League Average pitcher in his career.
why would career stats be relevant
Castillo is much better
Yes, but we got a bat, a reliever, and a starter!
2 relievers. Effross from the Cubs and now Trivino from the A’s, and we definitely needed them.
Depends of your definition of much. Definitely better by a measurable amount.
Castillo doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things since he with the Mariners. Does anyone here think the Mariners are going to go far? It’s still not a guarantee they make the playoffs. If the Astros, or another another major contender got him then it would mean something.
Darth, MLB playoffs are the most random postseason in all of sports. 2019 Nats and 2021 Braves were toward the bottom of betting favorites those postseasons. All Seattle has to do is get there and they have a chance.
That, of course, can happen but we’re not even sure they are going to make it. My point is I don’t see losing Castillo as a major loss since other competitors didn’t get him.
Yankees and Astros are far and away the 2 best teams in the AL. The two most dominant teams we’ve seen in a while. 1 will lose obviously, but if they both miss the WS, that’s a huge upset. The should be ALCS “locks”, or they choked.
Assuming key players stay healthy that is.
@ Darth### The M’s remaining schedule has them playing mostly sub .500 teams here on out. They most likely get to the post season, however not going to catch the astros.
I thinks M’s make it and with their pitching I wouldn’t look forward to playing them. They have a entire day to add players as well.
Darth Seattle has one of the best Ds and BPs if Ray could figure what he wants to be our SPs are not bad.
Our Off which has been up and down but we are getting Haniger back the next few days hopefully France is not serious and Julio is just sore. By the end of the year I like our team. We will be in the WC and depending who we play could make it a couple series in. Do I think we win the WS this year doubt it but if enough guys get hot we could make a run. You might not care about Seattle getting Castillo I know a lot of people that do. I can also guarantee no managers we play are thinking like that. We needed to go into this next 10 days healthy. MLB schedule play Yankees 7 times in 10 days.
Vazquez is taking BP for Sox in Houston. He has been traded to Houston. I wonder has a player taken BP with one team then go play with the other team. I know getting traded at opponents home has happened but BP for one and play for another.
Castillo would also have cost Volpe, Dominguez and the guy they trade to the Cubs to. This was a much better deal for the Yankees since none of the players they traded really factored into their team the next few years.
I’m curious, do you think any of the Mariner prospects that were traded factored into their team the next few years?
True, but Castillo only will pitch every 5 days and from what we’ve read, the Mariners still have offensive issues…..they made a good trade and the Reds apparently valued the M’s package more than what the Yankees offered…….and the bigger fact is the M’s haven’t made the playoffs since 2001….how many times have the Yankees made it?
Yes, no doubt. LC has top 10 SP potential. Montas top 25 or so.
But give Cashman credit for effort.
Matt Blake has performed miracles with some pitchers already. Only one he hasn’t made better is Cole. Looking forward to see what he can do with Montas.
As long as he didn’t get traded to the Astros, it doesn’t matter.
Did Castillo get to keep the mop on his head too?
Some may say that is a rude comment, but I wonder if the hair factored in? Maybe his agent got word to the Yankees that he would make an issue of it, or flat out refuse.
Yea, but Montas was the only other playoff quality power pitcher available, and the Yanks got him without giving up a number 1 prospect. If he doesn’t get injured this is a pretty great deal for the Yankees.
Errr, unless Lopez goes, but I have a feeling the Marlins are asking a lot more for him.
Price was far higher for Castillo. No way, Yankees have Pereza and Castillo.
thanks Chaim.
Wow. Yankees are making moves.
So are the Astros — getting Trey Mancini.
Who gives a crap what the trashtros do
Dude, all of America does, they’re a top 3 contender. Get out of your salt bath already.
Yankee fans ought to. They’re the team the Yanks have to get past to get anywhere.
Yankee fan here, and I agree. Houston has the Yankees number, for now. Yankees have to over come that. I think Yankees will dominate every other team in the AL, but they are underdogs to Houston as of now.
Indeed, but I don’t know if that’s enough to keep up with Benintendi, Effross, and Montas.
Yankees already got Benintendi
Yes. I knew the Yankees were going to acquire Montas. It will be interesting to see the prospects that the A’s are getting. Hopefully either the Cardinals or Phillies could acquire Noah Syndergaard.
In a arms race they are getting the arms.
Well I’m glad @ffrancy knew because as an A’s fan Montas was headed elsewhere about 3 hours ago….
The one that surprises he though is Trivino. He’s been all over the place this year (Yanks think of Heaney last season but a microcosm in relief) Must admit to not knowing much about the NYY farm, So I’m bit bemused my the second addition.
Still – can only hope all succeed a little better than an the Sonny Gray trade.
(Peter – the nice UK A’s fan).
Finally some movement
Are you just getting up?
Just glad we got these players, hopefully we didn’t give up too much.
Volpe and Waldichuk
LOL
Waldichuk already traded to Cubs earlier
Nah that was Wesneski.
i stand corrected
I don’t think Volpe is in deal. Peraza much more likely
I think you’re right, Crumpy.
Wait a minute,I think you’re wrong, Crumpy.
@MC Tim C- Medina, Waldichuk, Bowman, and Sears.
more likely Peraza, Waldichuck or Sweeney ?
No Volpe
Just Judge
Shocked that Yankees didn’t have to include Miguel Andujar.
Yankees are making moves.
Oops. I said that twice.
Said what?
Wow
@goastros123- congratulations man, you just got Trey Mancini, a really nice player.
Thank you, Captain Judge99. I don’t know if that’s enough to keep up with Benintendi, Effross, and Montas.
@goastros- if the Yankees have one fear, it’s probably losing to the Astros again. I see Christian Vasquez just traded to Houston, that guy is definitely a gamer.
that changes things !!
The A’s long nightmare is over.
Well, they’re still in Oakland… So is it really?
Thanks Schmozeliak
Thanks, Sch-mozeliak.
Oh wow what is the return for the A’s? Both Montas and Trivino bring lots of upside. Montas is a Stud and Trivino was supposed to be the acting closer for Oakland after Dany Jimenez got hurt. The chance of scenery will do well with Trivino…
Curry said the Athletics are getting JP Sears and another player
Bad since they didn’t get Pereza or Dominguez. None of the guys they got are considered sure-fire major league starters.
Sears has started at least twice for the Yankees this year and both were very good. He’s going to be a solid pitcher for Oakland. Losing him hurts. Waldichuk was our best pitching prospect, and he strikes out an insane amount of guys. Losing him hurts too.
Wesneski > Waldichuk
well they both were traded away.
A lot of teams are really going for it. The slower than normally slow week before deadline was brutal for us trade lovers but because of this today has been deadline action and we still have the actual deadline day tomorrow. Buckle up buckaroos.
Spankees open the checkbook and go to the player store whenever they need it….must be oh so nice to be the evil empire…..
Spankees? Really?
What team do you root for — the Alfalfas?
The Buckwheat fans are angry that they had to change their team name.
The Dodgers?
Hilarious since the Yankees haven’t operated like that in YEARS. Check the payrolls.
It’s 2022 and small market team fans still think trades are “opening the checkbook” and “buying players”
The jerk store called…
Checkbook? The Yankees farm system paid for this one. Maybe your team should get one too.
Good get by the Yanks. Montas and Trivino are great pitchers. Only thing is that Montas had shoulder problems in July and was pretty pedestrian ( not normal Montas) in his last two starts. Trivino looked like himself.
His velocity was fine.
Cashman wouldn’t have traded for him if the physical evals looked off. If his velo is normal, then that’s an excellent sign
That’s the big key, Montas shoulder.
If it holds up, looks like a great trade for NY.
Damn ok…I wonder if the jays are getting a starter
Mahle is still on the board and his career splits away from GABP are phenomenal by comparison to those in Cincinnati.
Go big or go home. Hopefully Atkins working the phones hard for a couple of impact players. The current roster will not take the AL.
For Montas and Trivino, Yankees parted with Sears, Waldichuk, Bowman and Medina. via Jack Curry
Morgue, That’s a ton!!! They’re really going for it! At least, they didn’t give up Volpe, Peraza, or Dominquez.
mdrguy, That’s a ton!!! They’re really going for it! At least, they didn’t give up Volpe, Peraza, or Dominquez.
Damn ok..i hope the jays are getting a starter
HOLY SMOKES! What a Deadline!! Benintendi, Effross, Trivino, and Montas! Let’s GO!
Yes, and all the pitchers are contollable for next year !
Well crap. I guess the cards could still acquire Soto and a rotational depth piece. We really needed a top end of the rotation starter and not Soto, but this makes me think Soto is a real possibility. Maybe they didn’t want to give up prospects in this trade that would inhibit them from being able to trade for Soto?
Maybe Lopez from the Marlins…?
If we get Lopez too I’ll be making dents in the floor with all my jumping
And here it is boysssss!!!
God damnnn holly wjdkqlznsksks
Okay, that was not you’re bestest, Jimmy. Do we have take away your MFA in Creative Writing from the University of Iowa?
Jimmy Forum was ashamed of his comment and removed it. Do betterer next time.
2 good arms for NY, good luck to them though playing in front of the trashiest fans in baseball.
Philadelphia has entered the chat.
Five people were killed in the Dodger Stadium parking lot since you posted that comment but ok
I’m not sure if a bunch of homeless dudes going too far while trying to partake in erotic asphyxiation in an abandoned short bus in the summer heat counts against the fan base or not, but we’ll count it.
Interesting. Peraza remains a Yankees.
What are the Cardinals gonna do now? I don’t think Mahle is the answer. They’re gonna have to pony up for Lopez. Even he has question marks. Hope it stings them in the long run.
Kinda worried about the pitching as well. We really needed a top of the rotation starter not Soto, but this makes me think they might go all in on Soto. Perhaps they didn’t want to give up top prospects to acquire Montas when it would inhibit them from getting Soto? Soto will probably go to the Padres and we will be left empty handed. Still need some pitching even if they are able to land Soto, just not too sure who that would be.
Montas and Trivino for Sears, Waldichuk, Bowman, and Medina. I approve! Let’s go Ninja!
Boy, Cashman got his starter and picked up a great golfer besides.
I’m so tired that I sadly had to process that one for a few seconds before smiling…
Eh Blue Jays… wake up. The bullpen needs help… to start.
One more beard laid to rest.
Yanks and Dodgers is gonna be a helluva WS! (Announce Soto to the Dodgers)
I can already hear the collective groan of every fan base across the country if the Dodgers gets Soto. Breaking news, Durant goes to Golden State!
Compared to what the mariners gave up this seems like a steal for the Yankees.
Maybe teams had injury concerns. I was thinking it was going to take more.
Castillo is the better pitcher. And I think A’s got three quality arms; two ready to go next year.
He isn’t that much better.
I actually like the A’s return on this trade more than what the Reds got for Castillo. Granted it’s not a fair comparison because because Trivino was included with Montas but I wouldn’t be surprised at all if 3-5 years down the line the A’s just got 3/5ths of a starting rotation or 2/5ths and a solid bullpen arm while the Reds end up with two average or slightly above average bats that both end up not really having the defensive chops to stay at shortstop. Time will tell.
Twins pivoting to Mahle?
@benhen77- the Twinkies are definitely the favorite Mahle, but don’t count the BlueJays yet.
You would’ve thought the yanks learned their lesson last time they traded for an A’s pitcher lol
But the prospects NYY gave up for Gray have essentially amounted to nothing so it really wasn’t a loss for either team
So because the Yankees and A’s completed a trade before, that’s perfectly comparable.
Top notch analysis right there.
Trivino will have to shave. Womp.
Technically he doesn’t have to shave. They all just cave in. I wouldn’t myself.
Agreed. Trivino looks homeless, a common tipster! Glad the Yankees are keeping the facial hair policy implemented by Georgie. What a great owner and always willing to pay what he thought to be anyway great players…
very much the wrong Luis Medina on basrball-reference.
Great deal for the yankees. Only had to part with 5th and 10th best prospects and 2 lottery tickets
Sears is a heck of a lotto ticket
Oh wow… I thought Peraza would for sure be going to the A’s. Medina has ridiculous stuff. If he can put it all together, his ceiling is sky high. Waldichuk was probably our best overall pitching prospect. Getting Montas and Trivino for this package? Yeah, can definitely live with that.
Agreed on Medina, @rivera42,
“According to YES Network analyst Jack Curry, the A’s acquired pitching prospect JP Sears, left-handed pitching prospect Ken Waldichuk, infield prospect Cooper Bowman and right-handed pitching prospect Luis Medina.”
https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2022/08/01/report-oakland-as-trade-ace-frankie-montas-to-yankees-take-another-big-step-in-rebuild/
Damn! I’m sorry, but that’s a huge overpay. Geez, Cashman! And for a guy with shoulder issues and only one more year of control.
It’s win now time in NYC.
Then they should’ve gone for Rodon.
If the Giants took back Schmidt or German with Andujar I could definitely see that happening with Rodon.
Solid deadline for the Yanks. It’s all in the players hands now. Time to win the big one. Not that it will be easy.
@VonPurpleHayes- I hope your right. We’ll see. Hopefully Montas shoulder is alright.
Call up Oswald now
Wow, no Peraza! I do think Waldichuk is going to be a special lefty reliever though.
4 of the Yankees top 21 prospects. Not bad for the A’s
No top 100 prospects when Luis Castillo bought back a top 10 one is a F for the A’s. Could have held onto him and tried again to get a top 100 prospect+ back.
Waldichuk is top 100, and Medina has huge stuff. It does feel a little light for the A’s though.
Bowman is a terrible prospect why did the A’s even want him?
Castillo brought back three top 5’s!
A’sfaninUK I thought the A’s weren’t blowing it up?
But only one of the top 5 prospects. Not bad for the Yankees
To get Montas without giving up Peraza feels like a steal to me. Waldichuk was our best pitching prospect and Medina should be at least a high-end reliever, but Sears and Bowman are pretty replaceable pieces. I’m very happy with this trade.
Maybe the A’s know something about Montas everyone else doesn’t
If Montas pitches to his capabilities, this is a great trade for the Yankees. Maybe Matt Blake can turn Trivino around as well. Waldichuk is going to be a good SP and Medina will likely be a dominant late inning RP. Sears and Bowman are no big losses. Overall good for both teams but I genuinely can’t believe Cashman was able to hold onto Peraza. There’s no reason to keep him in AAA anymore
Can’t agree. Sears has already shown he can pitch in the majors to a 2.05 ERA and pitch multiple innings. On top of that, Cashman gave up the Yankees’ 5th, 10th and 21st prospects. This is an overpay, maybe worse than the one for Gallo.
ERA can be very misleading and that is definitely the case with Sears. He’s nothing more than a backend SP and the Yankees starting German over him recently reflects that. Waldichuk is the only guy I’m truly sad about losing but you have to give something to get something. Montas can help the Yankees win the WS this year, none of the players they gave up would. Plus the Yankees have done a great job producing pitching prospects in recent years. They can replenish these losses within the next two years
Starting German over him reflected stupidity. I’ve watched every one of Sears’ innings. He’s got great stuff and did well against good lineups like Houston’s, Toronto’s and Cleveland’s.
Montas is not a TOR starter. He’s benefited from a huge pitcher’s park with massive foul ground in Oakland, besides that fact that he has shoulder problems and he’s a juicer.
This is a lousy trade for the Yankees. Cashman just decimated their pitching depth and mortgaged their future for 8 months of a guy who’s not an ace.
Sears has a terrible K/9 and didn’t see the big leagues until 26 for a reason. He’s a No.5 SP at best. Montas is very much a No.2 SP, which qualifies as front of the rotation. In no way did Cashman decimate the pitching depth. Cole, Montas, Nestor, Taillon, Monty, and hopefully a healthy Sevy back soon. Schmidt and German also available for spot starts if needed. Will Warren, who could be big league ready next year is still in the system. Drew Thorpe who was just drafted has a ton of potential. Luis Gil will be back from TJS next year. You’re wildly overreacting to a trade that could help the Yankees win it all this year
It’s not a matter of Sears being better than or even as good as Montas. It’s the pitching depth in total that Cashman has dealt away, of which Sears is one part: Waldichuk, Medina, Sears, and Wesneski who’s now the Cubs’ #8 prospect.
If this trade had been for Rodon, who owns a 136 ERA+ and dominated the Astros when he faced them twice in 2021, I’d feel better about this. As it is, I see this as a bad trade for the Yankees.
Of course I hope I’m wrong. We’ll see. It’s a done deal now.
The Yankees have more than enough depth to get through this year and are also well positioned for next year in that regard. You also don’t worry about the 7th and 8th best rotation options when you’re trying to win a championship. Rodon is also very good but he’s likely opting out of his contract after this season and there’s no guarantee the Giants move him. Montas is under contract guaranteed next year. Step back for a minute, take a breath, and realize this is a good move for the Yankees
You worry about subsequent seasons; that’s the point. You can’t decimate your farm and continue to win unless you intend to try to “buy championships” as the annual accusation goes.
Take a deep look at the Yankees last two drafts and see all the high upside pitchers they took and you’ll see how off base you are. Also remember that Waldichuk and Wesneski were both relative unknowns before last year. The Yankees have developed a lot of pitching in recent years and don’t seem to be slowing down. Depth won’t begin to be an issue until at least 2024 and by then it will likely sort itself out. Again you’re worrying about nothing
You do realize that 2024 is two years away, right?
Yes, and by then the Yankees will probably have three or four new exciting pitchers coming up the farm and also a lot of money freed up to spend in free agency if need be. They’ve done a good job of putting the team in position to win now while also keeping an eye on the future. Meanwhile you’re worrying about things that aren’t an issue
I appreciate your opinion Fink, but how many times have you actually seen these prospects?
If we’re gonna play that game, I’ve only seen Montas pitch once this year, and never since his injury when his velocity dropped 3 to 4 MPH. And he’s already been suspended 80 games for juicing. I sure hope his injury doesn’t move him to go back to the medicine man.
I’ll save myself some typing and paste from my comment below:
I wouldn’t be so concerned about what the Yankees gave up if the total in three trades so far hadn’t included seven pitchers — RHP Chandler Champlain, LHP T.J. Sikkema, RHP Beck Way, RHP Hayden Wesneski, LHP Ken Waldichuk, LHP JP Sears, and RHP Luis Medina. That’s an awful lot of the minor-league pitching depth to trade away. I’d have thought Cashman would’ve dipped into the surplus of shortstops they have without having to deal Volpe. Oh, well. Water over the dam now.
playing a game? Lol
I’m simply wondering how someone can be so adamant about a trade being so poor…, when you haven’t seen these prospects pitch.
I think that’s a reasonable question.
You seem to emphasize every negative about Montas and forget about the obvious positives.
Is it reasonable though? How many of us have access to minor league games? Who airs them? I have no access to them, so, like many fans this time of year, I have recourse to their metrics, their scouting reports, and their ratings.
How many times would you need to see these prospects play to be able to appraise them, as opposed to consulting their stats? A video clip on Twitter is interesting to see, but can I reasonably believe I can base an appraisal on something like that?
As I’ve said repeatedly, I hope I’m wrong and Montas proves worth the cost. But it’s not just this trade: it’s the sum of pitching dealt away in three trades. I hope it’s not an overpay, but I wish Cashman had dealt from, say, the surplus of shortstop prospects instead of leaning so heavily on the pitching stock.
Am I being more of a glass-half-empty guy? Sure. Guilty as charged. But coming off the bad burn in the Gallo trade, maybe it’s a bit of a case of once bitten, twice shy, ya know?
Yank aren’t done yet… need another arm. And a bat if Stanton can’t stay healthy
Would love to add another high-average guy to the lineup a la Benintendi.
This X 1,000. The one (or two) things I’ve felt the Yankees are lacking is high average contact bats. Even if another bat is similar to Bene-whatever who only hits singles it is a vast improvement over three strikes and out guys.
Yankees top prospects are comparable to other teams worst prospects
Shhh… don’t tell the A’s.
You can say it as much as you like, but it still doesn’t make it true, lol.
Yeah, that Judge was so overhyped!
So, what you’re saying is: Billy Beane and David Forst are lousy talent evaluators.
I have to say, shocked the Yankees traded for Montas, without giving up Oswald Peraza. This was a total heist for the Yankees!
Trading Wesneski, Waldichuk, Sears and Medina strips the upper levels of starters. Best hope there are no injuries to the MLB starters!
Still. A good deal for the Yankees.
We still have Schmidt as long reliever, and German too after Montas bumps him from his spot. I will definitely miss Sears for sure, though. He was good.
Yanks will have Montas to replace Taillion who is the only free agent starter next year. Rotation- Cole, Montas, Severino, Cortes, and Monty,/German!
Cashman has a certain pattern. He’ll go for the big free agent like a Cole, CC and Tanaka, but he builds out the rest of the rotation with either low-cost pitchers from the farm, such as Severino, Montgomery and Cortes, or he’ll trade for starters with a couple postseason runs, such as a Taillon or Montas. He’s not big on paying for two month rentals.
It’s not just those four; it’s also Chandler Champlain, T.J. Sikkema, and Beck Way.
This is what concerns me — the sheer volume of pitching gone in these trades.
Steal for New York. A’s should’ve gotten more.
Gonna miss Frankie. complete competitor. Best of luck in the Bronx.
What’s your overall take on him, oaklandfan22? His numbers are a lot better at home. While that’s not unusual for any pitcher, in this case it makes me wonder if playing in the Coliseum has artificially boosted his overall stats. Do you think this is true? Do you trust him in a big game? Thanks!
I dont think its true. He’s had a couple bad breaks away from the coliseum, I don’t see any huge difference at all from him pitching in the coliseum vs away from it. Dudes a stud and i completely trust him in a big game. He’s got great stuff which i am sure you will see. Hate to see him go but that’s the nature of being an A’s fan.
Well, then . . . I’m sorry for your loss, but I’m happy to hear how dominant you think he is. But you did get a couple of good prospects. If Medina harnesses his stuff, he’s a number two or even number one. Seriously.. 3 plus offerings. I wanted so much to see him a Yankee.
No top 100 MLB prospects is wack when Castillo got a top 10 MLB one back. Why even bother? Just keep him. Oh right, money. I hate the A’s so much sometimes.
Waldichuk is in the Top 100. Go look again. And that rating is probably too low.
Most prospects don’t make it in the MLB, i’ll take the established pitcher any day of the week.
Waldichuk and Medina are top 100 at fangraphs.
Which may or may not mean they will ever be major league pitchers
I love this guy continues to complain about no top 100 guys and people continue to tell he’s wrong and he ignores it lol.
Dear Twins and Blue Jays,
Thor and we’ll cover $5 million in salary. What do you have for me?
This gives them another arm for next year so they won’t need to resign Taillon. Meaning the focus of the off-season will be on Judge.
Chapman and Britton are up as well. That’s $30 million between the two of them right there.
I think they’ll re-sign Taillon. He’s a solid pitcher and he seems to like New York.
I don’t. Taillon is injury-prone and he’s having a career year. I don’t expect the same dominant stats from him next season if he signs with Yankees again
Terrible trade. Waldichuk was Cashman’s #1 starting pitching prosect. Oh, one thing more… he’s lefthanded, something that always plays better in the Bronx.
Then he gives away another rising lefty in Sears. Helloooo…. Cashman…. anyone home???? Who’s going to be in your 2023 rotation when Taillon is too expensive to retain, Severino breaks down again and Montgomery isn’t good enough???
And then he brings in garbage… Trevino had one good season — FOUR YEARS AGO.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/trivilo01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=&utm_medium=referral
If I’m Hal Wilpon or Randy Levine and Cashman ran this proposal by me, I’d telling him NO WAY.
Then, I’d tell Cash to clear out his desk.
Who waz more likely to get Yanks over the line to WS: Waldichuk or Montas?
Exactly. Thank me very much.
This. You don’t prospect hug when a World Series and the league’s best record are on the line.
Agreed. That’s why the Astros won the pennant today with their deal for Mancini. A talented hitter and a leader.
Cashman gave up the moon and stars — and two capable lefties –for 1-1/3 seasons of Frankie (injured already once this year) Montas.
Lol Mancini is the difference maker huh?
Clueless
Maybe cash is trying to crash in now and have a wining team so he keeps his job longer . Some times gms have to win now and not heard from now
Cheater? Check.
Fat Load? Check.
Coming off highest ever innings total? Check.
Averaging under 6 innings per start? Check.
Only ever pitched in a small market? Check.
Yup, all the boxes.
Montas cheated?
On June 21, 2019, after starting the season 9–2 with a 2.70 ERA in 15 games (all starts), Montas was suspended 80 games without pay for testing positive for a banned substance, ostarine, in violation of MLB’s Joint Drug Prevention and Treatment Program.
Nice, Nice. Hope Waldichuk can figure it out in Oakland along with the rest of the other guys.
Waldichuk gets to go home to Cali
So I’m guessing the Trivino part of the deal was more of a salary dump than anything? For most teams, $3 mil isn’t a ton especially for a pitcher who’s been pretty solid and is having a rough year (at least from looking at his stats). But to the A’s I suppose the $3 mil this year and l upward cost of him, a reliever, must not be worth it. For New York, they use his down year as a “devalue” and lower the overall tier of prospects they trade to get their ultimate prize. Overall Oakland gets a nice all of solid prospects, and the yanks get a legit ace like pitcher in return without depleting their system.. I’ll give the yanks the win on this overall though.
Remember that most were unimpressed when Cash traded for Holmes of the Pirates also…..Trivino may be another diamond in the rough, or as you say a salary dump….let’s see how this trade piece progresses on the Yankees.
Still no starting pitchers for the Cardinals. Just like every year – a lot of talk and no action.
Be happy that Mozeliak didn’t get reamed for Montas like Cashman just did.
They’ve made their move bringing in JoJo for Sosa. Stop being greedy
The A’s held out on trades Montas for months… for this? That’s all. Seems like other teams would have made a better offer, but anyone paying attention knows the league is rigged. It’s no coincidence NY and LA get their pick of players… guarantees a postseason appearance every years for ratings. If you’re not an LA or NY fan, you gets nada.
Hey the Sox were in on Ohtani before Arte pulled the plug, haha.
Oh here we go…again
If the league is rigged how dumb must one be to continue to watch and financially support said league?
I wouldn’t know, I don’t watch or “financially support” any of my teams anymore. They’re all run like the Keystone Cops and suck out loud. Generally not worth the time of day for at least a decade or more.
Any rebuilding team that drafts, developes and promotes their prospects while transitioning into a .500 or better club IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A SPARSE FARM SYSTEM. That’s how it’s supposed to work, unless you’re the Dahyerz, Yankees or Cardinals (who all get spoonfed talent, or steal outside scouting reports in the case of the Cardinals who got caught). The White Sox did a good job of trading and drafting their way back into contending for division championships. The bean counting majority owner undermined their rebuild, as he is apt to do whenever they become a ‘threat’. When you’re at the position the where you find big league players from within the organization, you should rely on the free agency market to fortify and strengthen the roster anyway. Not a ‘stocked’ farm system. They should have been in a position to ADD to a solid core of Anderson, Jimenez, Robert, Vaughn, Giolito, Kopech, Moncada, Cease, Bummer (sucks now), Crochet (Tommy John), and Madrigal. Any team in the league would have loved to draft or acquire all of these prospects within a three year span. Jerry allowed Hahn to overspend on a middling 4th-5th starting pitcher, an aging Catcher, and a closer, then abruptly closed shop on any meaningful spending. It effectively closed their window before it ever opened. An element of luck might have made it happen, but the massive injuries to EVERYBODY derailed any notion of hope for this roster. They simply don’t have the depth of talent to win win starters missing 60+ days every year.
Oh no, another nut with a conspiracy theory.
A fair deal, A’s get three very good pitching prospects.
But if I were the Yankees, I would have traded for Rodon, not Montas. Montas does get you 2023 as well, but Rodon gives you a better chance to go all the way in 2022 while you still have Judge.
Agreed. Would’ve much preferred Rodon. Montas sucked against the Astros this year. Rodon didn’t face them this year, but he dominated them last year.
Cashman screwed up again. And I disagree that it’s a fair deal. It’s an overpay for 8 months of a guy who’s not a TOR starter.
How did Montas suck against the Astros this year? I
Maybe “sucks” is too strong. These were his splits against Houston in two games this year: .298/.340/.468/.808
The results weren’t terrible — one win and one loss — but those offensive numbers against seem pretty high. They’re the third-worst against any opponent this year.
Maybe he’s Salary is too high it’s like $20 million
Injury prone
And a juicer.
Not only is Montas a front end pitcher, but he has been good agains’t the Astros which is huge. He now gives them a top end rotation for the playoffs.
He didn’t pitch good in the playoffs last season
DO a deep dive on Montas. He is NOT “a front-end pitcher.,” as I noted previously,
Montas’ stats are VASTLY overrated because he benefits from the cavernous Oakland ballpark.
> Montas’ Home ERA is 2.63 in 2022 & 3.28 for his career.
> Montas’ Away ERA is 4.85 (!) in 2022 & 4.29 for his career.
Does an almost 5.00 ERA sound like a front-end pitcher to you?
Deep dive: since opening day, he’s had one lousy road start. Just by circumstances, he’s happened to pitch more games at home so larger sample size.
Last year: nearly identical home and road splits.
Mahle should be the next arm to go
I actually don’t mind this at all for Oakland. Peraza is pretty overrated in my opinion so they might have dodged a bullet there, and Volpe would have never been on the table for Montas. Not a bad package at all especially considering his medicals.
Exactly how do you say Peraza is “overrated”…..by whom…..the back room GM’s of this site?
From what we’ve ready, by many MLB scouts, the only question is Peraza’s bat not his defensive skills……he may or may not be a star, but only time will tell on that…….obviously, Beane valued pitching more than defense which is why he made the deal.
You quite literally answered your own question. His bat is a big question mark moving forward. And like I said, it’s my opinion. No need to get so defensive about it.
No, didn’t mean to sound defensive and I recognize your comments are your opinion….recognize your commenting as sound on this site as compared to some of the “once in a lifetime” experts who say the dumbest things…..everything is cool!
You shouldn’t mind it for Oakland. They won another trade with Cashman.
If you’re an A’s fan, jdgoat, I think you’re going to love Ken Waldichuk. I think he’ll be as good, if not better than, Montas. And JP Sears is a nice sold pitcher.
Yankees gave up a lot .. too much for a number 3 starter… he’s not an ace
He finished sixth in the Cy Young voting last year. That’s not a #3
No, he’s more like a 4. As I noted earlier, his stats are VASTLY overrated because he benefits from the cavernous Oakland ballpark.
> Montas’ Home ERA is 2.63 in 2022 & 3.28 for his career.
> Montas’ Away ERA is 4.85 (!) in 2022 & 4.29 for his career.
Does an almost 5.00 ERA sound like a Cy-Young caliber pitcher to you? Is a 4.29 ERA exceptional? Of course not. He’s basically a league average pitcher, outside of the Grand Canyon that serves as Oakland’s ballpark.
This was a dumb reactionary trade on Cashman’s part, just like the Gallo trade was a bonehead move last year. How does a fly-ball hitter like Gallo have only 2 Sacrifice Flies in more than 630 games? That’s easy: Gallo is a terrible clutch hitter. But, apparently Cashman wasn’t aware of that when he made that stupid trade.
It’s amazing, he pitched very well against the Yankees in Yankee Stadium!
No Peraza way to go Cashman. Keep it going get another pitcher as backup when Montas blows out his shoulder again.
A war between the Yankees and the Mets. How will the Mets respond?
Interesting that the Yanks got Montas and Trevino for a package that did not include Volpe, Peraza or Dominguez. Well done Yanks. And this is a Jays fan speaking.
Yeah, I didn’t figure they’d give up Volpe, but I was really surprised Peraza isn’t going to the A’s.
Again, as I said before, all of us who comment on this site really have no idea as to what teams/GM’s really value and want when discussing potential trades…
Some of us do, most don’t. Most don’t review their own ridiculous opinions later on. They just comment that’s it! Team trading established player got fleeced! See trade articles from last 3 years you’ll see the same stupid commenters constantly shocked by the returns on guys.
Brad’s Pitt loving this!!!
Yankees going all in to win
All to miss the WS again. Nicely done Cashman
Have to be honest…..I don’t love this deal. People are just looking at the prospect rankings and thinking this is a huge win for the Yankees…..but Sears has already proven he can pitch at the MLB level and had little league numbers in AAA. Waldy was our best pitching prospect and Medina has turned it around this year while throwing more than 100+! We get a former PED issue with shoulder issues and reliever with an ERA over 6?? HUGE gamble that Montas can stay healthy AND Trevino can be turned around by Blake. good deal for Effross earlier, this one….not feeling it. Would have rather had Pablo Lopez and Bass from Miami.
Agree 100%. Love the Effross deal, not this one.
I think Lopez and Bass together would have cost more than what the Reds gave up.
Trevino is trash..I would take JP Sears over him anyday.
A for A’s. Wow what a trio of sky’s the limit arms! They should not be jealous of the Castillo package.
C for NY. This is the market price. I question teams paying this price. I wouldn’t have paid it but NY knows it’s prospects better than anyone so looking back in a few years it might not be painful. I love these 3 arms in 2022 though.
This is an AWFUL trade. Here’s why. People often point out that Oakland hitters are hurt by the size of their ballpark, but, conversely, Pitchers are HELPED. Here’s the proof:
> Montas’ Home ERA is 2.63 in 2022 & 3.28 for his career.
> Montas’ Away ERA is 4.85 (!) in 2022 & 4.29 for his career.
Montas is NOT a great pitcher and, I think, Ken Waldichuk, who the Yankees gave up for him, along with 3 others, may end up being a VASTLY better pitcher than Montas.
This trade may rival the Gallo trade for stupidity on Cashman’s part. He obviously didn’t do a deep dive on Montas’s stats, which, as shown above, as Vastly deflated because of the size of the Oakland ballpark. Cashman screws up yet again, imo!
Yes, the Yankees GM didn’t know the road/home splits for a player he acquired. That’s totally plausible…
Maybe Cashmsn and his staff didn’t just look at this years numbers.
This year… much better at home.
Last year, literally the same.
Stop over analyzing
Imagine thinking the gm didn’t look at the home road splits lmao my god.
So, Cashman knew he was trading 4 prospects for a pitcher with a road ERA of 4.85 in 2022 & a lifetime road ERA of 4.29, according to you, apparently. Well, then, Cashman is an idiot.
Just as he was an idiot when he traded for Gallo. Remember this stupidity? When a reporter asked Cashman at the start of the 2021 season whether the Yankees needed some Lefty power bats, Cashman said, No, our right hitters hit lefties well. Then, half way through the season, he ran around with his hair on fire screaming: Oh, my god, we need Lefty power hitters, and that led to the disaster Gallo trade.
Just as he was an idiot in signing Hicks, who had an injury history with the Twins, to a 7-year extension.
Just as he was an idiot for letting Garrett Whitlock go for nothing.
Just as he was an idiot for thinking Torres could play SS. I saw him play SS 4 times in AA for the Trenton Thunder & he STUNK as a SS, only an idiot would think he could play SS at the MLB level.
Just as he was an idiot for extending Chapman the last time when it was apparent that he was on a downward slide.
Just as he was an idiot when he (apparently) didn’t propose an incentive-ladder contract to Judge that included lucrative dollar incentives for games played. Something like a $30.5 MM base (which they offered), with increasing incentives based on games played that would have gotten him up to $35-36MM a year. (For example, $1MM for 100 games. $1.5MM for 120, $1.5MM for 130, $1.5MM for 140.)
I don’t overrate home/road splits, but Montas has pitched considerably better in Oakland this year and for his career. Oakland is a forgiving park, Yankee Stadium is not. Be curious to see how he pitches. On the flip side, the Yankees will give him a tighter defense and stronger pen.
Knew Waldichuk was going to go somewhere. Smart for Yanks to get Trivino with Montas.
Smart? Trivino blows.
The stat line doesn’t look good but he is good. The peripherals are fine. He’ll do well operating within the Yankees system for relievers. Last year, Yankee fans were freaking when they acquired Holmes, and before that Peralta. They both immediately got better from day one. I expect the same here. The Yankees build and rebuild bullpens on the fly as well as anyone. They targeted Trivino for a reason.
Okay, I’ll feel better about him then. You know your stuff, Rob.
I’d hate to be an A’s fan with all the talent they keep developing and then reading away.
Same.
World Series move here for the yanks
Still toronto for me though
I’d hate to be an A’s fan with all the talent they keep developing and then trading away.
Time to move to Vegas!
People really need to stop with the relocation nonsense.
I remember back a couple months ago when As fans thought they should get back Andrew Vaughn from the White Sox for Montas lol this is what they were waiting for? They could of gotten more. They should of kept him. Montas really isn’t much better then what Jose Quintana was when the Sox traded him to the Cubs for Dylan Cease and Eloy Jimenez who at the time was a top 3 prospect in baseball. Now the cubs really over payed but Montas was worth more then what they just got from the Yankees. Especially being this deep into the season usually a team will overpay
If your WhiteSox didn’t have the worst farm system in MLB maybe they could have offered something better without having to trade Vaughn. The A’s got 2 top level arms in Walidchuk and Medina and two additional solid prospects. If other teams could have offered more and didn’t then that was their choice because everyone knew the A’s were going to trade Montas.
Quintana had more years of control.
RIP Trevino’s sweet beard.
Enjoy the 13th consecutive season without a World Series- despite staggering payrolls (very often the biggest payroll in MLB) year after year after year. 1 World Series in 22 years. Cashman should have been fired years ago- pathetic.
“One of the few individuals on earth more unlikable than Derek Jeter”
-V. Scully
Don’t smear the name of Vin Scully by attributing your made-up quote to him.
That’s the good thing about Vin Scully, he is so classy and so respectful of both players and the game that anyone who knows Vin Scully would know that is a false quote.
What a jobber you are. @ Theopener
What a jobber
Brad Pitt
“And then there’s us”
Pretty fair deal both ways. Nice pick ups for the Yanks. Trevino is a great addition in this move
This closes the gap with Houston, in my opinion, as long as Montas can stay healthy through the final stretch and playoffs.
OK Cash, Nice day, but now comes the hard part. Where are you going to dump Gallo?
You MLBTR listed the wrong Luis Medina . They got the relief pitcher that throws 100 mph , not the bony teen on the Brewers AZL team . Ok I feel better. A’s got two starting LHP , and a hard throwing bullpen piece . A’s just have to tread water till a VEGAS announcement can be made .
Trevino: This has potential to be a real fun watch. Gas can fun.
Yeah, I was going to say Waldichuk is arguably the actual Yankees #1 prospect, not Volpe
Here we are once again seeing who the real prospects are when teams make trades
Kaprelian?
Losing Sears is a big deal. This is a really nice trade for the A’s. Yankees lost a quantity of good pitchers that don’t have enormous upside but should all be solid
Incredible depth add for the A’s
All these great acquisitions and the Yankees have not had to great the great Volpe…. Wow!! They might already be the trade deadline winners.
Short version of the story: Cashman got beat, yet again.
the A’s recent trades have been very disappointing
Now I think Waldichuk (local to A’s area) is a good prospect and has done well in minors, and JP Sears is ok but the rest of the choices seem lousy….and as a whole giving up montas and Trevino seems like a low return.
If the rest seem lousy, you should dig deeper.
mixing of middle relief – A’s will put in as starters hoping something sticks.
Dig deeper.
Great haul for A’s
Wow!!!!
Yankees dipping into their KC/Oakland farm system again
5.01 road ERA never trust A’s pitchers
You know it’s not over yet. Gallo is still a Yankee.
Sonny Gray 2.0
Seems like a pretty weak return.
I am not shocked by this. Trevino was at best on the downhill side of his career. Montas is a legit number 2 with #1 stuff. Consider what his record would be right now with the Yankees offense backing him. As for what the A’s got back? Waldichuck? Who the @%!$@@@% is waldichuck? Put it this way. He was not good enough for the Yanks to put in their rotation and he is Lready 25? This is what you call trading a past the expiring date of a prospect for a proven starter. The other guys sound like garbage as well. So in short the A’s traded a B starter for a few D’s and a C-
Now the Yankees need to release Suzyn Waldichuk
Montas in for a rude awakening pitching in that stadium compared to Oakland if he’s not hurt as it is.
He has a career 2.57 ERA at Yankee Stadium. His career ERA at the Coliseum is 3.28.
You can find that information at Baseball Reference.
Great deal for NYY
Just keep him out of hitters parks and he should be ok. A’s have worked hard to align him to pitch at home this season.
WTB Noah Syndergaard. Could be a great bullpen arm, if his premium stuff doesn’t return as a starter by early september.
Right now, Mo is inside a bathroom, staring at a mirror, reciting the lines he’s going to tell the St. Louis media…
“Look, we gave it our 100%, but in the end of the day it just didn’t quite match up. We were there in the end, but the asking price was just too high. We believe we have enough depth in-house to make a solid push into the playoffs this year,,,, blah blah blah.”
Typical A’s. Yanks were willing to give
Up their #2 prospect instead we settled for horse s.
I was hoping they would take Oswald Peraza
As a Yanks fan I’m happy we gave up so little to get these guys. For the A’s fans…what is your team doing? Awful returns on 4 straight trades!
They got a very good return in this deal.
I wouldn’t be so concerned about what the Yankees gave up if the total in three trades so far hadn’t included seven pitchers — RHP Chandler Champlain, LHP T.J. Sikkema, RHP Beck Way, RHP Hayden Wesneski, LHP Ken Waldichuk, LHP JP Sears, and RHP Luis Medina. That’s an awful lot of the minor-league pitching depth to trade away. I’d have thought Cashman wouldn’t dipped into the surplus of shortstops they have without having to deal Volpe. Oh, well. Water over the dam now.
typo should’ve read: I’d have thought Cashman would’ve dipped into the surplus of shortstops
Why didn’t the A’s get Oswald Peraza? The Yankees were willing to offer him and A’s didn’t bite.
Why didn’t the A’s take Oswald Peraza? The Yankees were willing to offer him and A’s didn’t bite
Waiting for that Trivino/Trevino battery coming soon to the Yankees
It’s as if Cashman read my comments last night lol. I said this team was a rotation piece and high leverage reliever away from the title. They get Montas and Effross. Now the cherry on the Sundae would be to get a player swap for Gallo and maybe one more reliever bullpen depth is still needed….
I have to look at the downside — it’s my job, and somebody’s gotta do it.
So I’m wondering — or rather hoping — that the Yankee scouts are pretty sure Montas is going to be 100% after his shoulder injury. Because I just checked out the velocities in his last start. By the fourth inning, his 4-seamer was down to 94 MPH, and he only lasted five innings. This concerns me because he’s described thus by CBS Sports:
“Montas is an unusual starter in the sense that he’s all about brute force. His fastball clocks in at 96 mph and the slowest pitch in his arsenal is his 86-mph splitter. That faster, and then even faster approach defies convention, but it works for him. He’s able to generate plenty of swinging strikes and swings outside of the strike zone.”
I referred back to a pre-injury start on June 23 when he no-hit the Mariners through 7.2 innings. In the top of the 8th inning his 4-seamer hit 98 MPH.
A 3-4 MPH drop in velocity is not inconsiderable, especially if the description above has any validity. I have to hope the Yankee scouts and analysts have a good idea where he’s at right now and have good reason to believe he’s going to be effective.
But I worry. It’s my job.