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Marlins Looking To Add Starting Pitcher

By Anthony Franco | July 28, 2023 at 9:37am CDT

The Marlins pulled off one of the bigger moves of deadline season last night, acquiring back-end reliever David Robertson for a pair of promising low minors prospects. It’s the first of what is likely to be multiple additions for a Miami club that currently sits just outside the NL Wild Card picture.

Before the Robertson deal, Ken Rosenthal of the Athletic reported that adding both a starter and a reliever were Miami’s top priorities. They moved quickly on the latter front but figure to explore the rotation market over the coming days.

It’s surprising to see the Fish looking for rotation help at first glance. For a few seasons, Miami has skewed rotation-heavy and been light on offense. As a result, the Marlins dealt Pablo López to Minnesota for Luis Arraez in an effort to balance the roster.

That said, the Marlins’ rotation has been more good than exceptional in 2023. They rank 11th in starting pitching ERA, allowing 4.11 earned runs per nine innings. They’re third in strikeout rate (25.4%), 11th in walks (7.5%) and third in grounder percentage (45.9%). Starting pitching certainly hasn’t been a weakness, but it hasn’t been quite as effective as last year’s group — which ranked eighth in ERA behind a Cy Young performance from Sandy Alcantara.

Some amount of regression was probably inevitable. The López trade subtracted arguably Miami’s second-best starter. The Marlins rearranged their infield, installing Arraez at second base to push Jazz Chisholm to the outfield. They signed Jean Segura to move to third and dealt away Miguel Rojas while moving Joey Wendle to shortstop. All those transactions were designed to add offense — and the Arraez trade in particular has achieved that — but come with the expected effect of reducing the defensive efficiency behind a ground-ball heavy pitching staff.

That’s among the reasons for Alcantara’s step back, although there are myriad factors whenever a pitcher’s ERA jumps more than two runs (from 2.28 to 4.46). They’re obviously not going to displace Alcantara from the rotation, but his relative down season magnifies some of the other challenges Miami has faced.

Trevor Rogers has been on the injured list since the middle of April; a partial tear in his non-throwing shoulder leaves him with an uncertain return timetable. Free agent pickup Johnny Cueto lost a couple months to injury and was knocked around on his minor league rehab stint. Miami broke him in as a reliever before moving him back into the rotation last weekend.

Top prospect Eury Pérez has had a brilliant start to his MLB career, but he’s back in the minors temporarily as the club keeps an eye on his workload. The 20-year-old has already set a personal high with 86 2/3 innings between Double-A and the majors this season. Bryan Hoeing has gotten six starts but allowed a 6.66 ERA in 24 1/3 frames over that stretch. He’s been much better in a multi-inning relief role.

There have also been signs of promise, of course. Jesús Luzardo has taken another step forward and looks like a #2 caliber starter. Braxton Garrett, who opened the season in the minors, has stepped up with a 4.32 ERA and above-average peripherals through 100 innings. Edward Cabrera is missing plenty of bats and racking up grounders, though he’s walking over 14% of opponents and has an ERA approaching 5.00.

Miami has plenty of high-upside arms who are capable of starting a playoff game if they play into October. They don’t need to shop at the top of the rotation market. There’s some sense in adding a stable back-end starter to ease the workload on some of Miami’s younger arms — in effect playing the role the Marlins envisioned from Cueto when they signed him in January.

While rotation help now seems to be the front office’s priority, Ng and her group will also certainly remain on the lookout for ways to add to the lineup. They’ve been loosely linked to Jeimer Candelario and Tim Anderson within the past week. Rosenthal writes that Miami made a run at first baseman Carlos Santana before the Pirates dealt him to Milwaukee. The Marlins should have a few irons in the fire over the next few days as a somewhat surprising entrant into the rotation market.

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50 Comments

  1. RunDMC

    2 years ago

    So deep in starting pitching…

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    • gbs42

      2 years ago

      You can never have too much pitching…

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    • Rsox

      2 years ago

      But all of it young and inexperienced in these types of situations. Cueto pitched better his last time out and would be a huge addition if he can come back and be at least as good as he was down the stretch with the White Sox last year.

      A trade with the Cardinals makes sense here as it could be one-stop shopping for Ng. Flaherty/Montgomery and DeJong would solve the Marlins two biggest needs

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      • Dogbone

        2 years ago

        Cubs should offer Smyly, as an inexpensive option for the Marlins. Then bring up Wesneski or Brown or give the ball to Assad.

        Reply
  2. Rickover50

    2 years ago

    Well they play the tigers so don’t let erod leave

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  3. Captain-Judge99

    2 years ago

    I heard Domingo German could be available

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    • Cora the Destroya

      2 years ago

      Not the best option. I’m aware he threw a perfect game but his ERA still hovers around 4.50. There are better guys out there

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  4. Motor City Beach Bum

    2 years ago

    Perfect solution. Flip the Tigers a package that starts with Xavier Edwards.

    Reply
  5. Jrnomo100

    2 years ago

    Cards have Montgomery and flattery acal trade both of them for Cabrera

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    Reply
  6. angt222

    2 years ago

    Mets have JV, Max & Quintana.. just saying.

    1
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    • Rsox

      2 years ago

      JV and Max make almost half of the Marlins payroll on their own.

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    • rct

      2 years ago

      JV is too expensive, Max hasn’t pitched well (and is too expensive), and Quintana is a huge question mark. Miami could do better elsewhere, depending on what they’re willing to give up.

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      • padam

        2 years ago

        Add in the no trade clause…

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  7. Mac Attack

    2 years ago

    Quintana for Perez. We’ll throw in Pham as well for a AA pitching prospect.

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    • nottinghamforest13

      2 years ago

      I’m sure they’ll do that right away.

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    • Rsox

      2 years ago

      And then you woke up…

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    • Mjm117

      2 years ago

      As long as the fish also send their competitive balance picks for the next 10 years then yes.

      Only fair.

      Reply
    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      2 years ago

      Maybe Neifi Perez but not Eury

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  8. rememberthecoop

    2 years ago

    He’s a 3 fWAR player due to his offense, but Arraez has been the second-worst defender at the keystone among regulars, at least in terms of UZR.

    Reply
    • mlb1225

      2 years ago

      +2.5 in UZR is perfectly fine though. He does have -8 outs above average, however.

      Reply
  9. BrettPhillips for Prezident

    2 years ago

    Cardinals trade Jack Flaherty for Skip Shumaker

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  10. MacGromit

    2 years ago

    I so wanted the O’s to trade for Jesus Luzardo this past off-season. But the cats out of the bag now as he’s had the great season I thought he was going to have. The O’s are the perfect trade partner for the Marlins given their surplus of bats and ML talent that could use a change of scenery too

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    • Mjm117

      2 years ago

      Which is why Fish traded Marte for Luzardo.

      They saw potential, nurtured it, and now it’s all coming Together.

      Reply
  11. KingOmar

    2 years ago

    So stupid. They’re going to overpay for an SP to make a longshot run while Chisholm is hurt and Alcantara is having a down year? Short sighted at best.

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    • marlinsin7

      2 years ago

      This is a bad take. The Marlins are always “looking to next year” so being aggressive on the market is important to change that narrative.

      Jazz will be back and Sandy has been better lately. It’s not like he’s having a down year and is stuck in a bad year. Their contending with him being worse and all the injuries makes the deadline even more interesting for the few of us marlins fans still left.

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      • MLB Top 100 Commenter

        2 years ago

        When their stars add more next year they can continue their dynasty

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    • Rsox

      2 years ago

      “Longshot run”

      They’re shot isn’t any longer than the Giants, Phillies, Reds, or Diamondbacks. A game and a half seperate all 5 teams and by Tuesday morning there could be 3 new teams in the NL Wild Card spots

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    • Cora the Destroya

      2 years ago

      Chisholm is always hurt. Their window is now.

      Reply
  12. FlahertyFour

    2 years ago

    I mean, they could just say to hell with the workload management for Eury?

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    • bb15021

      2 years ago

      Let the kid pitch, managing workloads is a nice theory but there isn’t any proof that it does anything

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      • Rsox

        2 years ago

        Stephen Strasburg is actually a prine example that it makes zero difference

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        • bb15021

          2 years ago

          everybody is different, extra rest might be good for some, others it might actually do more harm. applying a one size fits all approach is really pretty dumb if you ask me

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  13. msqboxer

    2 years ago

    Miami would be looking for some financial relief probably and maybe the option to pick up contracts for the following year. I could see a Lynn and Anderson type deal with some $$’s for a #9 Josh Groshans, #22 Sean Reynolds and #27 Patrick Monteverde. Would give the CWS a middle reliever and potential back of the rotation guy with Groshan’s being the wild card if he pans out.

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    • denny816

      2 years ago

      I dont know if CWS move Anderson without getting a no brainer in the deal. If Eury is untouchable, Meyer would have to be in any offer for Hahn to pull the trigger.

      Reply
    • Rsox

      2 years ago

      Marlins need to stay away from “Modern day Jackie”

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    • CityofChampions

      2 years ago

      His name is Jordan and he’s looking like a busted prospect these days…..

      Reply
  14. stretch123

    2 years ago

    Mitch Keller makes a lot of sense. Or if the cost is too high would love for them to get Greinke.

    Reply
    • solaris602

      2 years ago

      Greinke is 1-11 with a 5.49 ERA. Might as well just keep Cueto in the rotation.

      Reply
  15. south side hit men

    2 years ago

    Lance Lynn and Tim Anderson for Victor Mesa Jr

    Reply
  16. frankpr21

    2 years ago

    I really don’t understand the need for more pitching.. To me this Admin seems to be obsess with pitching.. They need hitters and defense. Actually I would give up Eury and Elder for Casas, Wong and Duran.. That would be an excellent trade for both teams. Miami becomes a top team to beat on the NLE and Boston a very competitive team on the ALE.
    Lets go Marlins, wise up, stop pretending and make a real trade for the ages..

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    • Rsox

      2 years ago

      Ummm, as a Red Sox fan if i were the Marlins i wouldn’t do that deal…

      Reply
    • Mjm117

      2 years ago

      Eury for Marcelo and Casas….Now we talking.

      Of course Fish still need to send the Sox all of their international pool money plus competitive balance picks until 2067.

      Reply
    • good vibes only

      2 years ago

      Uninterested bystander here but thats not even close for Eury. Perez is borderline untouchable.

      Reply
  17. nottinghamforest13

    2 years ago

    The clock ticks as we await seeing how Kim Ng will screw this up in some fashion.

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  18. gotigers68

    2 years ago

    Pssssst ! Detroit is in town, and we have a couple. But, we need someone who can help us NOW !

    Reply
  19. This one belongs to the Reds

    2 years ago

    They can have Weaver for a scuffed up baseball and a broken bat to be named later.

    Reply
  20. Mercenary.Freddie.Freeman

    2 years ago

    If the Marlins want starting pitching then Erod should top their wish list. They still probably finish in 3rd place though.

    Reply
  21. Jrnomo100

    2 years ago

    I’d give up degong Montgomery and flattery for Cabrera

    Reply
  22. Nobby

    2 years ago

    Chris’s Sale would look great in a Fish uni.

    Reply
  23. IndianaBob

    2 years ago

    Nick Martinez from the Padres and then move him back to starting?

    Reply

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